Subject: SKML: New Katmin, New Server, Again Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 20:35:39 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kat ML Hi all. Yet another changeover has occurred. I've accepted responsibility for the mailing list from Christian, and do to coollist proving to be as unreliable as maxie was near the end, the list has moved to my local server. At least there if something goes wrong I can walk in and face a person with it. Currently, as the config file won't accept an update, the reply-to address is who sent the message and not the list, so be careful on replies. I'm working on fixing this, but it may take a few days to hash it out with the site manager. I do not see it as a big enough problem to keep the list down. If you are receiving this message, then you are the new list. Only members of the coollist ML and those who have contacted me personally have been included, but unsubscribe info is in the welcome aboard message you should have gotten just before this one. Please do read that message, there have been changes beyond just the address. Assume any message sent to coollist after April 24 or 25 is gone and resend it to the new list. If you get this message, please reply either to me so I know the address is good. These addresses were refused. If anyone can get in touch with the owner of these adresses, they might want to know what has happened. callistasc@aol.com (user unknown) dedo20@aol.com (user unknown) felinaswkt@aol.com (user unknown) wip@ix.netcom.com (user unknown) syric@aol.com (user unknown) ryioko@aol.com (user unknown) -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Graphic Test Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 20:36:02 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kat ML Just a test of the graphic capabilities. Let me know it you do not receive the file correctly. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- [Image] ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Shadowalk: The Future My Tail (4/26/98) Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 20:36:27 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kat ML . "Ohh ..." Felina cracked her eyes open to bright blue skies and open grassland. "Felina?" T-Bone's voice came from her right. "Alive." "What hit us?" Razor pulled himself shakily to his feet. "Pastmaster's spell." Felina supplied, sitting up. "I tackled him we he started rattling about future and sending away, I guess I wasn't fast enough." "More to the point, where are we?" T-Bone stood and offered Felina a hand up. "Probably not Aristal." Felina accepted his hand and took a good look around them. To her left the open grass land sloped out to sea near the horizon. The right the land remained flat a great distance till they collided with a ragged mountain rage. "What makes you say that?" T-Bone glanced around. "That." Felina pointed up, at three moons dimly visible in the sky. "Oh." "Open land." Razor added. "Where to now?" "Four Kittens?" Felina suggested with a shrug. "We're goina get soaked any path we take." She pointed at the eastern sky, rolling with dark gray clouds flashing red lightning. "Red lightning?" T-Bone glared curiously at the incoming storm. Razor's eyes widened. "It's not lightning. It's fire." He paused a moment, then all but ordered them. "Mount the Dragons that land." "Dragons?" Felina glanced between Razor and the red flashes. "Yieep!" T-Bone jumped as three great winged dragons, two metallic green and one metallic blue, whooshed into existence above them with a blast of ice cold air. ========================================================================= Excerpt from the story The Future My Tail in the series Dragon Fire, Dragon Flight available at http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html in The SWAT Kats Aerie Comments and thoughts are welcome. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "Watch yourself Dodge, you are addressing a superior officer." "No, merely a higher ranking one. Catch us if you can." Down Periscope ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: SWAT Kats Data Files Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 20:36:33 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kat ML Cartoon Network's site has a (admittedly small) data file on T-Bone and Razor, including wav's, movies, a pic apiece and some info. Do a search for T-Bone or Chance Furlong, Razor or Jake Clawson. http://www.cartoon-network.co.uk/toonnet.app/toonfiles/indexlo.html -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: SKML: New Katmin, New Server, Again Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 23:40:53 EDT From: EJRSemiGod To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net In a message dated 98-05-03 23:35:00 EDT, you write: << If you get this message, please reply either to me so I know the address is good. >> It's all good! ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: SKML: New Katmin, New Server, Again Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 20:47:14 PDT From: "Kristen Sharpe" To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net As I was told to reply to this - yes, I got the mail... obviously (Oh! I'm brain-dead!). Anyway, I know of current addresses for three of the ones that did not work: callistasc@aol.com (user unknown) - callistask@aol.com dedo20@aol.com (user unknown) - wildfiresk@aol.com felinaswkt@aol.com (user unknown) - felinask@aol.com These are taken off the most up-to-date copy of the AOL RPG player list I have (I get copies of it so I know when old friends are likely to be in a chat and can't talk). Whether they're the addresses that these people would like this list to come to, I don't know, but they will get you in touch with the kats. Kristen Sharpe ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Graphic Test Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 05:59:17 +0200 From: Viktora David To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net Hiya Rauhnee, the file you've sent me is OK. Dave ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Mail list Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 06:04:07 +0200 From: Viktora David To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net > -----Původní zpráva----- > Od: Rauhnee Ranshanka [SMTP:GateKat@SWATKats.Net] > Odesláno: 3. května 1998 3:48 > Komu: Viktora David > Předmět: Re: Mail list > > David > > Just letting you know -- coollist is down and you are *NOT* on > the list (and you are not missing anything until it comes back > up). I will inform you when coollist is up again (so you can > subscribe again) or when the lists moves (so you can subscribe at > the new location). > Yeah, I know that now. It bounced me back the subcsribe message. Here is the welcome message which you were interested in: Confirmation of Subscription We have recently been requested by you to subscribe to this List: Please confirm that you want to subscribe by replying to this message. If this subscription is unsolicited, simply delete this message. Thank you. Dave ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: SKML: New Katmin, New Server, Again Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 21:26:23 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: Kristen Sharpe Kristen Sharpe wrote: > Anyway, I know of current addresses for three of the ones that did not work: Well two worked, but felinask@aol.com is still an unknown user. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: SK font Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 07:07:02 +0200 From: Viktora David To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net Rauhnee, do you have the SK font named "Minstrel"? If so, could you send me it? Thanks Dave ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: SK font Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 22:23:57 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: Viktora David Viktora David wrote: > Rauhnee, > do you have the SK font named "Minstrel"? If so, could you send me it? Yes I do, but I can't seem to attach it as is so I'm sending it as a self extracting zip file. Just save the file in the directory you want it in and run it. Let me know if there are problems. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Name: Font.EXE Font.EXE Type: unspecified type (application/octet-stream) Encoding: base64 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: I know! Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 02:06:17 EDT From: RikkiFeral To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net In a message dated 98-05-03 23:35:00 EDT, you write: << These addresses were refused. If anyone can get in touch with the owner of these adresses, they might want to know what has happened. callistasc@aol.com (user unknown) dedo20@aol.com (user unknown) felinaswkt@aol.com (user unknown) wip@ix.netcom.com (user unknown) syric@aol.com (user unknown) ryioko@aol.com (user unknown) >> ::laughs:: I can tell you what happened to all but two. CallistaSC@aol.com is now -----> CallistaSK@aol.com Dedo20@aol.com is now ------> BastKatkin@aol.com FelinaSWKT@aol.com is now --------> Felina761@aol.com Syric@aol.com is now ----------> BladeSyric@aol.com Hope that helps. ~Rikki Feral >^,,^< ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: SKML: New Katmin, New Server, Again Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 02:17:14 EDT From: Strike SK To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net dedo20 is now: bastkatkin@aol.com felinaswkt is now: felina761@aol.com ryioko@aol.com is now: ldymavesk@aol.com callistask@aol.com is now: callistask@aol.com syric@aol.com is now: bladesyric@aol.com no idea about that last one, sorry! ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: SKML: New Katmin, New Server, Again Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 00:58:47 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: Strike SK Strike SK wrote: > dedo20 is now: bastkatkin@aol.com > felinaswkt is now: felina761@aol.com > ryioko@aol.com is now: ldymavesk@aol.com > callistask@aol.com is now: callistask@aol.com > syric@aol.com is now: bladesyric@aol.com > no idea about that last one, sorry! Well you got five addresses I didn't, so it a big help. Thanks. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: I know! Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 00:58:56 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: RikkiFeral RikkiFeral wrote: > CallistaSC@aol.com is now -----> CallistaSK@aol.com > Dedo20@aol.com is now ------> BastKatkin@aol.com > FelinaSWKT@aol.com is now --------> Felina761@aol.com > Syric@aol.com is now ----------> BladeSyric@aol.com Thanks. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Graphic Test Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 14:55:14 +0300 From: Aivars Liepa To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > Just a test of the graphic capabilities. Let me know it you do > not receive the file correctly. Greetings. Thank YOu for setting up this maillist and keeping all of the SWATKat fans together. The Picture arrived ok, and on NetscapeMail 4.05 it was decoded ok and name was kept with file. Aivars -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- I have faked my reply adress. Remove ".no" from the adress below. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Aivars Liepa Dept. of New Inform. Technologies Latvian Academic Library mailto:aliepa@lib.acadlib.lv.no 10, Rupniecibas str. http://www.acadlib.lv/~aivars/e/ Riga, LV-1235, LATVIA AOL IM: aivars9 Phone: (371)-7323887 ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: SKML: New Katmin, New Server, Again Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 08:52:28 PDT From: "Kristen Sharpe" To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net >Well two worked, but felinask@aol.com is still an unknown user.< Hmmm.... here's another one of hers that *is* still in existence... at least as of when I checked members.aol.com for it two minutes ago: Mira Fox@aol.com. Kristen Sharpe ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: SKML: New Katmin, New Server, Again Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 19:27:02 +0100 From: Christian Berger To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > > Hi all. > > Yet another changeover has occurred. I've accepted > responsibility for the mailing list from Christian, and do to > coollist proving to be as unreliable as maxie was near the end, > the list has moved to my local server. At least there if > something goes wrong I can walk in and face a person with it. That's true. I've given the mailinglist to him, because coollist seemed to be far to unstabile. You can still call me for questions about the CD-Rom. You might have the following questions: (Nobody asked them, until yet) Why didn't you complain at coollist? - I did! But the mail didn't come thought, because their POP3 server seems to be down. What happens to the old list? - The old list will stay for unknow time.(etherity?) Until it get's deleted by somebody else. (Or the service will cost money) Servus Casandro PS I've searched for those addresses: > callistasc@aol.com (user unknown) no name, posted to list > dedo20@aol.com (user unknown) no name,posted to list > felinaswkt@aol.com (user unknown) no name, posted to list > wip@ix.netcom.com (user unknown) Jesus Fernandes should be twip, I suppose > syric@aol.com (user unknown) > ryioko@aol.com (user unknown) > > -- > > ----------------- > Rauhnee Ranshanka > GateKat@SWATKats.Net > > ************************************************************************* > "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military > leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary > accomplishments is foreknowledge." > Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. > ************************************************************************* > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. 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ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: SKML: New Katmin, New Server, Again Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 15:07:28 EDT From: Razor1701 To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net In a message dated 98-05-03 23:35:00 EDT, you write: << If you get this message, please reply either to me so I know the address is good. >> I got it, thanks! ^_^ Meg ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: SKML: New Katmin, New Server, Again Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 14:28:09 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: Kristen Sharpe Kristen Sharpe wrote: I checked members.aol.com for it two minutes ago: Mira Fox@aol.com. Thanks. The version without the space worked (if that is incorrect let me know so I can apologize to whoever is at the receiving end). -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Help Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 14:37:10 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kat ML Does anyone know Christian Berger's second e-mail? EinStein@donau.de is down, apparently permanently, and his webpage is not avalible either. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: E-Mail Problems Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 14:52:57 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: Casandro_ft@hotmail.com, Rauhnee Ranshanka I hope this get to Christian Berger (it's off an old e-mail). The EinStein@donau.de came back with permanent fatal errors (your site seems to be down too). If this is the correct person, do you want me to switch (or just add) this address to the ML? If you're not, could you tell me? These are the two messages that got bounced back from EinStein@donau.de. ----------------------- Re: List Down? Christian Berger wrote: > Can you send me more information about your list? Especially jioning and stuff. I can try to let a joining server script run somewhere on a server. Well, you should be on the list (a welcome aboard message should have arrived by now and you've successfully sent mail to the list). But as to joining. send 'subscribe swatkats' (minus quotes) to Majordomo@maillist.peak.org. If you could make up an automated subscription bit for this list like you did for the other one I'd be extremely grateful. Any more questions? ----------------------- Re: SKML: New Katmin, New Server, Again Christian Berger wrote: > I've given the mailinglist to him. Just for future reference, I'm a she. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: SKML: New Katmin, New Server, Again Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 18:09:09 EDT From: BastKatkin To: EinStein@donau.de, swatkats@PEAK.ORG In a message dated 98-05-04 15:49:46 EDT, EinStein@donau.de writes: << callistasc@aol.com (user unknown) no name, posted to list > dedo20@aol.com (user unknown) no name,posted to list > felinaswkt@aol.com (user unknown) no name, posted to list >> Callista SC is now CallistaSK@aol.com, I use to be Dedo20, but now im BastKatkin@aol.com and FelinaSwkt is now Felina 761 @aol.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: New Config (Send) Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 16:11:36 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: Majordomo newconfig swatkats furlson admin_passwd = furlson advertise << END END announcements = yes approve_passwd = furlson archive_dir = comments << END END date_info = yes date_intro = yes debug = no description = A discussion of all things related to SWAT Kats digest_archive = digest_issue = 1 digest_maxdays = 7 digest_maxlines = digest_name = swatkats digest_rm_footer = digest_rm_fronter = digest_volume = 1 digest_work_dir = /private/majordomo/digest-area/$list get_access = list index_access = open info_access = open intro_access = open maxlength = 400000 message_footer << END ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 END message_fronter << END END message_headers << END END moderate = no moderator = mungedomain = no noadvertise << END END precedence = bulk purge_received = no reply_to = swatkats@peak.org resend_host = restrict_post = sender = owner-swatkats subject_prefix = subscribe_policy = open taboo_body << END END taboo_headers << END END unsubscribe_policy = open welcome = yes which_access = list who_access = list ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Katmin's Notes Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 16:14:11 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kat ML I got the new config file accepted (finally), so the reply-to address is now defaulted to the list. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Swatkats links and stuff wanted. Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 17:14:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lobocursor Lyceus (G.Rubio)" To: SWAT Kat ML Hi Kats! Agaian the woof from Mexico. I still have up my page about Swatkats on my site, but I need the colaboration for all yours fans. If you have a page and you would like a link, please let me know. Also if you have a resume of chapters, characters and stuff about the series it will be welcome. Right now I'm looking for files for made my own swatkats pictures (yes, I got graduated the univeristy so I have free time now!). About the SW files at Cartoon Network, could anybody send me the sample videos. The site is designed for MAC/Windows and my Irix 6.2 Nutscape just crash when I try to get them :(. Thank you. Last minute: Cartoon Network LatinAmerica against Anime and Violence. This will be the reason of SW out-of-air? In an Interview with the Marketing Chief of Cartoon Network LatinAmerica becuase 5th anniversary of the channel on this side of the world. The Chief said that "Anime is a style of cartoons who will dissapear quickly, childerns do not like violence and it will fail. Childerns like our characters like Yogi Bear, Scooby Doo and The Jetsons. Of course there a "bit" of violence on those cartoons but there are NOT a lifestyle." The Anime Series Sailor Moon (Normal, Returns, Romance, Stars, Sstars), Dragon Ball (Normal and Z) and Ranma 1/2, gets the 75% of the maketing in Mexico Actually. Cartoon Network only airs in TV Cable systems. So what is the point against Swatkats? The "violence" of SK, Cartoon Networks sells the image of non-violenece here for compete against Nickeoldeon, Fox kids, WB kids and the local ZAZ. But the point is that they airs Jonny Bravo and other violence shows. What's the point here? A new idea was roaming around the few SwatKats fans in Mexico: DO you know Reboot? They can't sell their programs in American market for beign canadian. But this is not a RACIAL trouble, this is just a marketing trouble. Maybe and maybe SK would have troubles due their were made by Canadians and they sold bad their products in USA (they never came to Mexico :( ). This is just a theory: Ted Truner freeze SK in favor of classic american cartoons (like Scooby) who sell good in USA and for avoid a trouble with the laws against TV violence in USA. Well, just remember do not post flames, this is a theory and I have only the info from my side. More info will expand this theory... or send it to the trashcan. *grin* Well, I'll watch again my Beta-cassettes of SwatKats, hehe I need to convert them to VHS soon. | /\____ --= Lobocursor Lyceus =-- | | // ~\ _\_____ lobo@apolo.acatlan.unam.mx lobo@indiana.acatlan.unam.mx| | / \ .. \/ www.acatlan.unam.mx/Person/Lobo/index.html | | _/ /______/ www.furnation.com/lobo | |/// \\/ // Werewolf-wolf-Taz-SwatKat Fan & SGI Adm | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: The Info Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 06:16:01 +0200 From: Viktora David Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Hey Katz there, I'm going to build a SK page in Czech and English language. I need to know these following things: names of the SK creators, the year, which the SK were shown first, bios of the creators, the broadcasting stations which were aired the show etc. I was poking around lots of pages and I was unsuccesful :-(. I'm sure that I read it somewhere but I don't know where... Thanks for the help. Dave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: CTN and Anti-Anime Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 07:21:41 -0400 From: Paul Kemner Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: SWAT Kat ML >... the Marketing Chief of Cartoon Network LatinAmerica... said that "Anime is a style of >cartoons who will dissapear quickly, childerns do not like violence and it will fail. >Childerns like our characters like Yogi Bear, Scooby Doo and The Jetsons. Of course there >a "bit" of violence on those cartoons but there are NOT a lifestyle." It's all marketshare and economics. Hanna & Barbera got their start because they were willing to work faster and cheaper than their bosses. The old HB cartoons are all paid for, and their costs were covered a *long* time ago. The anime studios still need to make $ off their creations, and I think it's probably a lot more work (and cost) to write & draw a typical anime ep. than a typical "scooby". Notice that they're using the marketing head for their spokesbeing. >The Anime Series ..., gets the 75% of the maketing in Mexico Actually. A-ha! 75% you say? It's a common business tactic to use an issue like violence to "stomp" the competition. If you can get the government involved, then you can use taxpayer money to "stomp" your competition, and don't need to spend as much yourself. It's much cheaper than producing a quality product. >So what is the point against Swatkats? The "violence" of SK, >Cartoon Networks sells the image of non-violenece here for compete >against Nickeoldeon, Fox kids, WB kids and the local ZAZ. But the point is >that they airs Jonny Bravo and other violence shows. What's the point >here? I would bet that all the shows owned by CTN are just fine, but anything owned by anyone else has problems. In the US they're still showing both new and old Jonny Quest. Are they showing Robotech on CTN in Mexico? Of course, that doesn't count as violent anime since *they* own the rights to broadcast it. =^^= ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: E-Mail Problems Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 11:21:26 PDT From: "Casandro a bat-winged lion-pilot" To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net >From GateKat@SWATKats.Net Mon May 4 14:52:04 1998 >Received: from peak.org (midgard-1.PEAK.ORG [198.68.22.65]) by peak.org (8.8.5/8.6.7) with ESMTP id OAA03937; Mon, 4 May 1998 14:52:01 -0700 (PDT) >Message-ID: <354E38B9.AA72EAD6@peak.org> >Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 14:52:57 -0700 >From: Rauhnee Ranshanka >Reply-To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net >Organization: Shadowynd Consortium >X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: Casandro_ft@hotmail.com, Rauhnee Ranshanka >Subject: E-Mail Problems >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >I hope this get to Christian Berger (it's off an old e-mail). > >The EinStein@donau.de came back with permanent fatal errors (your >site seems to be down too). If this is the correct person, do >you want me to switch (or just add) this address to the ML? If >you're not, could you tell me? > >These are the two messages that got bounced back from >EinStein@donau.de. You can add this address to the list, but please keep the einStein@donau.de address. Thanks Servus Casandro > >----------------------- >Re: List Down? > >Christian Berger wrote: >> Can you send me more information about your list? Especially jioning and stuff. I can try to let a joining server script run somewhere on a server. > >Well, you should be on the list (a welcome aboard message should >have arrived by now and you've successfully sent mail to the >list). But as to joining. > >send 'subscribe swatkats' (minus quotes) to >Majordomo@maillist.peak.org. > >If you could make up an automated subscription bit for this list >like you did for the other one I'd be extremely grateful. Any >more questions? > >----------------------- >Re: SKML: New Katmin, New Server, Again > >Christian Berger wrote: >> I've given the mailinglist to him. > >Just for future reference, I'm a she. > >-- > >----------------- >Rauhnee Ranshanka >GateKat@SWATKats.Net > >************************************************************************* >"What enables an intelligent government and a wise military >leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary >accomplishments is foreknowledge." > Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. >************************************************************************* > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: CTN and Anti-Anime Date: Tue, 05 May 1998 19:24:10 +0100 From: Christian Berger Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Paul Kemner wrote: > Notice that they're using the marketing head > for their spokesbeing. > > >The Anime Series ..., gets the 75% of the maketing in Mexico Actually. > A-ha! 75% you say? It's a common business tactic to use an issue like > violence to "stomp" the competition. If you can get the government > involved, then you can use taxpayer money to "stomp" your competition, and > don't need to spend as much yourself. It's much cheaper than producing a > quality product. > > >So what is the point against Swatkats? The "violence" of SK, > >Cartoon Networks sells the image of non-violenece here for compete > >against Nickeoldeon, Fox kids, WB kids and the local ZAZ. But the point is > >that they airs Jonny Bravo and other violence shows. What's the point > >here? > I would bet that all the shows owned by CTN are just fine, but anything > owned by anyone else has problems. In the US they're still showing both new > and old Jonny Quest. Are they showing Robotech on CTN in Mexico? Of course, > that doesn't count as violent anime since *they* own the rights to > broadcast it. Those things are the saim all over the world. Think of Microsoft. Another example is T-Mobil a daughter of the virtually phone monopolist Deutsche Telekom. They've claimed today that their digital cellhone net is SOOOOOOOO save, it's almost imossible to hack into it. (It was prooved to hack into the concurent's system recently, read more details on http://www.ccc.de ) Cartoon Network doesn't have any competition in europe. Nikelodeon (english) is part of a pay-tv packet. And the other channels which show cartoons are all german. (Including Nickelodeon german) Maybe there are other non financial reasons. Why else did they stop a well going TV-series. Why else did they stop the toon-chat on http://www.cartoon-network.co.uk . Acctually I have to admit, Cartoon-Network has cut down the violence. It seems like every Tom and Jerry eppisode has to be pre-view before showing. A long time ago it was on the german ZDF (uncommercial). Those epps were MUCH more brutal than the SWAT-Kats. (I remimber one sceene. Tom has been barried, and then he grews out at a plant) Servus Casandro -- ____________________________________________ http://www.donau.de/privhome/berger mailto:EinStein@donau.de telnet:192.82.208.37:9999 (Fur Toonia; Casandro's Room) Furry Code 1.2 FFLw3a A- C- D- H+ M+ P- R T+++ W-- Z- Sm RLCT a- c+++l d e++ f++++ h* i+ p-- sm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: you know what? Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 02:35:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Hyena boy Reply-To: swatkats@coollist.com To: swatkats@coollist.com As I sped away in my megakar 3000, i took one last look at the kat shrinking away in the rear-view. It was at that moment that I swore i'd never leave Megakat Prime again. -------------------<< Advertisement >>------------------- 200,000 exposures for $450? Where? --> Coollist - http://www.coollist.com/advertise.htm --------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: [Fwd: Excerpt - "A Better Life"] Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 04:08:22 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kat ML More stuff from the newgroup archive. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Subject: Excerpt - "A Better Life" Date: 30 Nov 1997 04:16:19 GMT From: hyenaboy@aol.com (Hyena boy) Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Newsgroups: alt.tv.swatkats "GO You Damn vigilantees", Feral draws their intended fire. "go and get your damn jet!"..."NOW" ^ ^ = ' . ' = -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: [Fwd: Kats eye special edition] Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 04:08:29 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kat ML More stuff from the newgroup archive. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Subject: Kats eye special edition Date: 28 Nov 1997 05:25:24 GMT From: hyenaboy@aol.com (Hyena boy) Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Newsgroups: alt.tv.swatkats "I guess I't wasn't entirely a love-fest", quotes Mawrice Chowalter, son of captured villian: Chop-Shop, the Hyena. Orphaned by his father's emprisonment as a result of the work of the SWAT Kats, they feel obliged and offer to look after Mawrice... "at least until we can find him a permanent home." T-Bone stipulates. camera pulls back, revealing news desk. "This is Ann Gora, and you're watching Katseye Special Edition. Tonight on SE, we'll meet son of convicted terrorist Chop Shop as he tells all about his SWAT Kat experience... "Are they really the heroes we think?". TBC ^ ^ = ' . ' = -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: [Fwd: SWAT Kats, where are you?] Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 04:08:34 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kat ML More stuff from the newgroup archive. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Subject: SWAT Kats, where are you? Date: 22 Nov 1997 05:50:26 GMT From: hyenaboy@aol.com (Hyena boy) Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Newsgroups: alt.tv.swatkats Yet another night looking out the window, just waiting for a glimpse of the Turbokat. One day they will return. The world NEEDS the SWAT Kats. ^ ^ = ' . ' = -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: [Fwd: KATS EYE : IN DEPTH REPORT] Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 04:08:41 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kat ML More stuff from the newgroup archive. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Subject: KATS EYE : IN DEPTH REPORT Date: 2 Nov 1997 22:31:14 GMT From: hyenaboy@aol.com (Hyena boy) Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Newsgroups: alt.tv.swatkats KatsEye News. "The Swat Kats" "My first memory of the SWAT Kats was when I was about 3...Well, I had known about them from my parents and the newspapers forever, it seems. Everybody thought the Swat Kats were really cool." -Kenny Kinkaid Anyway it was late and I remember hearing thunder and lightning. After I had gone to bed one night, I heard Mom & Dad yelling and Dad came marching up the stairs. My Dad said that all of the electricity on the block had been cut off, and not to worry. Then we heard the jet... -Claudia Cleopat Though we were taught in schools to trust authority and place our faith in the State Defense Authority, and even worse, the Enforcers. We saw them failing, again and again... -Anon. We'll be right back... ^ ^ = ' . ' = -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: [Fwd: Other voices _^..^_] Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 11:15:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "Vikki.C Ong" Reply-To: swatkats@coollist.com To: swatkats@coollist.com Hello. Anyone out there know who Steele's and Konway's and Manx's first names are? Really? And what about Smitty's full name? Sorry if every one knows - I'm new to this. Vikki C ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -------------------<< Advertisement >>------------------- High bandwidth usage? No problems. http://www.astrax.com - Astra X Specialised Web Hosting --------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Hotmail 03 Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 17:42:38 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: Rauhnee Ranshanka Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1998 20:17:21 +0100 From: Christian Berger Save Address Block Sender Reply-To: EinStein@donau.de To: swatfiles@hotmail.com Subject: Chance like bat Attachment Enclosed! Reply Reply All Forward Delete Previous Next Close -- ____________________________________________ http://www.donau.de/privhome/berger mailto:EinStein@donau.de telnet:192.82.208.37:9999 (Fur Toonia; Casandro's Room) Furry Code 1.2 FFLw3a A- C- D- H+ M+ P- R T+++ W-- Z- Sm RLCT a- c+++l d e++ f++++ h* i+ p-- sm http://207.82.250.251/cgi-bin/getmsg/BAT%2eJPG?disk=207.82.250.178_d266&login=swatfiles&f=33793&curmbox=ACTIVE&msg=MSG892318600.0&start=1289022&len=278953&src=&attachment=1&file=BAT.JPG ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Hotmail 02 Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 17:42:42 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: Rauhnee Ranshanka Date: Mon, 02 Feb 1998 17:38:27 +0000 From: Christian Berger Save Address Block Sender Reply-To: EinStein@donau.de To: swatfiles@hotmail.com Subject: Images about 550 Kb Attachment Enclosed! Reply Reply All Forward Delete Previous Next Close -- ____________________________________________ http://www.donau.de/privhome/berger mailto:EinStein@donau.de telnet:192.82.208.37:9999 (Fur Toonia; Casandro's Room) Furry Code 1.2 FFLw3a A- C- D- H+ M+ P- R T+++ W-- Z- Sm RLCT a- c+++l d e++ f++++ h* i+ p-- sm Download Attachment: DARKKAT1.ZIP http://207.82.250.251/cgi-bin/getmsg/DARKKAT1%2eZIP?disk=207.82.250.178_d266&login=swatfiles&f=33793&curmbox=ACTIVE&msg=MSG886438081.9&start=582842&len=706180&src=&attachment=1&file=DARKKAT1%2eZIP Download Attachment: CHOPSHO1.ZIP http://207.82.250.251/cgi-bin/getmsg/CHOPSHO1%2eZIP?disk=207.82.250.178_d266&login=swatfiles&f=33793&curmbox=ACTIVE&msg=MSG886438081.9&start=582842&len=706180&src=&attachment=2&file=CHOPSHO1%2eZIP ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Hotmail 01 Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 17:42:48 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: Rauhnee Ranshanka Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 21:13:02 +0000 From: Christian Berger Save Address Block Sender Reply-To: einStein@donau.de To: swatfiles@hotmail.com Subject: Framegrabbs Attachment Enclosed! Reply Reply All Forward Delete Previous Next Close Hi, I've done some Framegrabbs again, here they are. -- ____________________________________________ http://www.donau.de/privhome/berger (again!!!) mailto:EinStein@donau.de telnet:192.82.208.37:9999 (Fur Toonia; Casandro's Room) Hiroshima '45 - Tschernobyl '86 - Windows '95 http://207.82.250.251/cgi-bin/getmsg/INSIDE%2eZIP?disk=207.82.250.178_d266&login=swatfiles&f=33793&curmbox=ACTIVE&msg=MSG882699002.1&start=142&len=581507&src=&attachment=1&file=INSIDE%2eZIP ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Auf wiedersein Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 22:17:40 -0400 From: Marc Rieley Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: The SWAT Kats Fan Club Online/ Vice President To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Hello again. I'm back from Germany. Nice place indeed. What I could use is a great, kind, willing staff to work SKFCO. I already have a new VP, and what we need are: P Assistant, VP Assistant, Newsletter Editor, Assistant Editor, Public Relations Rep, Advertising Manager, and Monthly Pilot's Seat® Article writer. Any questions, please ask. Thanks. Marc Rieley ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Shadowalk: A Hero's Dreams Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 14:21:43 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kat ML As Jake drifted off in his mates' warm embrace, he wondered once again what he had done to deserve such an understanding companion. ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Shadowalk: The Animus Mistral (4/07/98) Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 16:19:27 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kat ML . "Chance, you hear something?" Jake swiveled his ears, then his head around to catch the odd noise vibrating the air. Thuph, thuph, thuph, thuph, thuph, thuph, thuph, thuph. "Sounds like a chopper." Chance shrugged and went back to work on Callie's car engine, in for repairs once again after the chaos Zed caused two days before. "Not like any chopper I know of." Jake walked carefully out of the garage into the late morning sun and scanned the sky as three dark dots rapidly expanded into two distinct types of double rotor gray and dark purple camouflaged helicopters he had never seen before. All three bore the linked Enforcer/Pumadyne insignia usually reserved for test craft. The leader of the flight and the sleeker of the two types, came in for a landing a few yards away. "Chance! Get out here; we have company." He called over his shoulder as the two larger choppers resembling huge cylindrical diamonds with fully loaded wide stub wings set at the back of the stocky bodies, a thin upsweep, rotorless tail and a heavy gatling gun under their nose took up an orbital flight path over the garage and their ground-bound friend. Chance popped his head out of the garage and froze, slack jawed at the craft that sat in front of him. "What the crud?" "It has friends." Jake pointed at the two larger ships still in the sky as the smaller chopper, a pinched cylindrical frame with notable stub wings brandishing several empty hard points, a swivel mounted gatling gun under its nose, and no tail rotor, brought its contra rotating main rotors to stop and the fuzzy background noise silenced. Both tomkats could see the chopper was designed for two, but only had a single pilot; a bright white female dressed in a purple gray flight suit with a Pumadyne insignia prominently displayed on her should as the entire canopy slid forward and down along the chopper's long nose and the pilot jumped out, deftly missing the rotor blades above her. She shook her short platinum blond hair back into place as she removed her helmet. "Hi guys." The young pilot bubbled over with smiles and excess energy. "I'm Pakitra Dyne, I'm hoping you can help me fix Animus." She waved backwards at her craft, then extended her hand to Jake. "My techs are at a loss, and Callie swears that you two can fix anything." "What is it?" Chance managed to stammer as he took in the revolutionary concepts before him. "The HPVT-8 Animus. This and the two HAVT-10's up there are part of the next generation of Enforcer vehicles." Pakitra almost vibrated with excitement. ========================================================================= Excerpt from the story The Animus Mistral in the series For A Future Foretold available at http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html under The SWAT Kats Aerie Comments and thoughts are welcome. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* If the radiance of a thousand suns Were to burst at once into the sky, That would be like the splendor of the Mighty One... I am become Death, The shatterer of Worlds. The Bhagavad-Gita ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Shadowalk: The Animus Mistral (4/07/98) Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 20:16:23 EDT From: Hyena boy To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net Kewl stuff! Where's the rest of it? BTW thx for hosting the mailing list. -hb ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Shadowalk: The Animus Mistral (4/07/98) Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 17:57:17 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: Hyena boy Hyena boy wrote: > Kewl stuff! Where's the rest of it? I listed at at the bottom of the excerpt. Main Page: http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html Under The SWAT Kats Aerie Under the series: For A Future Foretold > BTW thx for hosting the mailing list. > -hb I'm probably happier about it than you. I also want to thank you for the idea of posting two and three sentence idea/stories. It fun, and a nice break from the three dimensional world web I usually work on. On another note: Any update on when a pic of APV-21 Horizon Runner might be done? -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Shadowalk: The Animus Mistral (4/07/98) Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 18:02:29 PDT From: "P.I. Hackle" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG not to piss off the listadmin, but we do have a place for the posting of fanfic and the excerpts thereof--it's dj's archive, http://www.geocities.com/soho/8850/fanfic.htm another possible option is the newsgroup, alt.tv.swatkats. this is to save the folks who d/l all their email the time, etc. spent on d/ling fanfic they didn't know/thought/??? they wanted. yes, this is a valid area of the swatkats community, however it can be better handeled in other places and ways. hackle ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Swatkats links and stuff wanted. Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 18:02:44 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: "Lobocursor Lyceus (G.Rubio)" Lobocursor Lyceus (G.Rubio) wrote: > If you have a page and you would like a link, please let me know. I've got one. http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html It contains my fanfic, a SK erotic art section (up very soon), a ML Archive (up very soon), and info and sign-up instruction for the Mailing List. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Shadowalk: The Animus Mistral (4/07/98) Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 18:29:23 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG P.I. Hackle wrote: > [fanfic] yes, this is a valid area of the swatkats community, however it can be better handeled in other places and ways. 1) I wish to know who disagrees with my view, why (in longhand please), and what they think this list is for. 2) At least this katmin perceives the list for the sharing and discussing of *all* things SWAT Kats related, especially the creative components (writing and art) and advertising of SK sites. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Shadowalk: The Animus Mistral (4/07/98) Date: Thu, 7 May 1998 21:56:45 EDT From: Hyena boy To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net In a message dated 98-05-07 20:56:21 EDT, you write: << Any update on when a pic of APV-21 Horizon Runner might be done? >> Yeeeowwwwww! That hurts. You know, I haven't been able to come up with anything I'd consider worthy. thanks for the nudge, kat-boy. you're not forgotten ;o) P.S. Cool fanfic excerpts are a hell-of-a-lot better than static. I used to post a few in the NG, whattsamatter w/ a mini-scenario, esp. if it's GOOD? -chuck ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Shadowalk: The Animus Mistral (4/07/98) Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 19:18:30 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: Hyena boy Hyena boy wrote: > In a message dated 98-05-07 20:56:21 EDT, you write: > > << Any update on when a pic of APV-21 Horizon Runner might be done? >> > > Yeeeowwwwww! That hurts. You know, I haven't been able to come up with anything I'd consider worthy. thanks for the nudge, kat-boy. you're not forgotten ;o) Good to know that, but I'm a she-kat. > P.S. Cool fanfic excerpts are a hell-of-a-lot better than static. I used to post a few in the NG, whattsamatter w/ a mini-scenario, esp. if it's GOOD? Say *that* to the ML! I need the support right now as the only opinion out there is mine, and one set very much against sharing creative works. Post some more short clips to the NG and do you have your fanfic anywhere? What I've run across and your page tell me your a very good writer I want to see more of. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Shadowalk: The Animus Mistral (4/07/98) Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 19:30:30 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: Hyena Boy Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > Post some more short clips to the NG and do you have your fanfic anywhere? I mean Mailing List, I'm a little hyped from Hackle's message. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Shadowalk: The Animus Mistral (4/07/98) Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 03:09:04 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG P.I. Hackle wrote: > > not to piss off the listadmin, but we do have a place for the posting of fanfic and the excerpts thereof--it's dj's archive, http://www.geocities.com/soho/8850/fanfic.htm If you'd bothered to even glance at the entire message you would have see that this is my version of an ad, and I have my work on my own site and links from DJ's. Also, if you'd bothered to read to welcome aboard message I asked you to, you would know that FanFic is definitely on the acceptable list of things to post. If you want to disagree with that decision, make a better argument, and make it to the list. > another possible option is the newsgroup, alt.tv.swatkats. this is to save the folks who d/l all their email the time, etc. spent on d/ling fanfic they didn't know/thought/??? they wanted. yes, this is a valid area of the swatkats community, however it can be better handeled in other places and ways. Do explain this opinion better and kill the shorthand, you're not impressing anyone. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Katmin Notes and Clarifications Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 03:11:08 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kat ML It's four hours and counting. I'm calmer now and it seems to me that somewhere along the line at least one person out there is confused as to what I see this list as. All this (at least about the main list) is in the first two messages everyone got, but I'll repeat and clarify it for those who did not read or understand it the first time. (this list is better organized and spelled out anyway.) So here it is, in detail. I am interested in hearing what everyone else out there thinks of this outline; for and against, and please respond to the list if you have an opinion. I'm not going to change, but a third ML might come out of it if there is a real division out there. Otherwise, deal with it Hackle. -------------- swatkats@peak.org is for: 01) The sharing and discussing of thoughts and ideas on (but not limited to) the characters, physics, society, races, geography, biology, evolution, technology, episodes and philosophy of the SWAT Kats and all the worlds that have grown from it (This includes distinct FanFic worlds as long as a notice of such origins is posted) that is suitable for a general audience. Anyone have any more subjects to add to this list? 02) The sharing and discussing of SWAT Kats art, FanFic, poetry, mini-scenarios and all other creative works suitable for a general audience. 03) Advertising of SWAT Kats sites and sites that contain SK material, yours or anyone else's. This includes update notices to any site already mentioned to the list. 04) The posting of any relevant material from news:alt.tv.swatkats (I'll be doing most of this -- I check it daily so if a message there does not appear on the list within 24 hours, forward it yourself for I did not get it) and any site containing very little SK material (such as Cartoon Over-Analyzations, mentioned a little while ago and Cartoon Network's site) as long as it is not too large (keep it under 1 MB, preferably a good bit less). Otherwise a link to such a site is recommended to keep difficulties to a minimum. 05) The announcement of any event (such as a SK superchunk, SK schedule change or new member) that should be of interest to at least part of the community. 06) JPG, GIF and TXT attachments under 1 MB only please. -------------- sk_adult@peak.org is for: (going up as soon as PEAK gets back to me) 01) The sharing and discussing of thoughts and ideas on (but not limited to) the characters, physics, society, races, geography, biology, evolution, technology, episodes and philosophy of the SWAT Kats and all the worlds that have grown from it (This includes distinct FanFic worlds as long as a notice of such origins is posted) that is NOT suitable for a general audience. 02) The sharing and discussing of SWAT Kats art, FanFic, poetry, mini-scenarios and all other creative works that are NOT suitable for a general audience. 03) The posting of any relevant material from news:alt.tv.swatkats (I'll be doing most of this -- I check it daily so if a message there does not appear on the list in 24 hours, forward it yourself for I did not get it) and any site containing very little SK material (such as Cartoon Over-Analyzations, mentioned a little while ago and Cartoon Network's site) as long as it is not too large (keep it under 1 MB, preferably a good bit less). Otherwise a link to such a site is recommended to keep difficulties to a minimum. 04) Advertising of SWAT Kats sites and sites that contain Adult-oriented SK material, yours or anyone else's. This includes update notices to any site already mentioned to the list. 05) JPG, GIF and TXT attachments under 1 MB only please. -------------- Some other notes on the list: Please DON'T use shorthand when writing to the list. Please DO spell check your messages if you can. This is not in real-time, so there is no need to hurry. Shorthand and poor spelling makes it difficult to read postings. I can't spell myself and I can't think of anyone off the top of my head so I'm not picking on any particular kats here, it's just a note. As far as I've seen and heard, I'm a bit different from the past three katmins -- I have the time, energy and fanaticism to be a very active manager and member. More importantly, I also seem to have a broader view of what is acceptable posting. If there are a substantial number of list members out there that have a problem with this, I don't mind creating a SK-creative ML. It just seems silly with how little traffic this list sees and how close the topics are to each other as we can't discus what they might be doing with the next episode or what just happened in the newest one to air. -------------- Some notes on me: Rauhnee (that's me) is a she, and it's one of my buttons to get called a guy. I'm a chatterbox, I know it, and I really don't care if anyone finds it annoying. I only post Katmin stuff when provoked or make changes. BTW: This is provoked. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* Life is eternal; and death is only a horizon, and a horizon is nothing save the limit of our sight - Rossiter Worthington Raymond Remember this one, kats. It's what keeps the SWAT Kats alive, and what will kill them when we loose our sight -- or limit it because of prejudice. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Request Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 06:10:56 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: BastKatkin@aol.com > Has anyone ever noticed that the Ace of Base picture in their first album, The Sign, looks like ?Callie, Chance, Jake and Felina except as people? (if you want me to send the picture, just speak up!) Please post this to the SKML at peak. The pic should come through this time. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: My small opinion on all that stuff. Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 22:06:01 +0800 From: "Strike" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: Sorry, but when seventeen or whatever emails out of 21 in my mailbox are from the same mailing list, I tend to think that maybe something could be done to make it more efficient..... Okay, first off, I think that the chain mail and the arguments about what is netspeak and what is not, should probably never have gotten on this list in the first place. (Apologies to those involved in that discussion, but it was kind of dumb.) Okay, enough on that. About the fanfic discussion: I agree that the mailing list is a good place for fanfic discussion and sharing.... but.... if I may? 1: I, personally, gained no insight into these tiny little clips from fanfics. They just sounded like sentences out of the blue, to me. I think that if you're going to post something, you ought to post a bit more than maybe just one paragraph. Like, a page's worth, maybe? That way the people reading can actually understand what's going on a bit better? How's that? 2: (Rauhnee, this is directed a bit at you, but not in a bad way) I noticed that most of the fanfic clips come from you, but they come in seperate e-mails. Would it be possible for anyone posting more than one clip of fanfic to the list, to post them in the same e-mail? (And why are some people sending the same e-mail twice? Must be their mail servers?) Well, that's it from me- sending this before I start rambling.... ~Strike (strike@sprintmail.com) http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9294/Main.htm "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history... this century's history.... We all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century." -Dan Quayle ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Shadowalk: The Animus Mistral (4/07/98) Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 11:49:36 PDT From: "P.I. Hackle" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG >If you'd bothered to even glance at the entire message you would >have see that this is my version of an ad, and I have my work on >my own site and links from DJ's. > i can accept that this is an ad. i don't see a problem with that. however, the frequency of posts suggests that you prefer to use the list as an editing board at times--i used to ask for people to read my stuff and provide comments, but that made it voluntary (spelling error--more on this later?) >Also, if you'd bothered to read to welcome aboard message I asked >you to, you would know that FanFic is definitely on the >acceptable list of things to post. If you want to disagree with >that decision, make a better argument, and make it to the list. > i don't think that it's bad to discuss fanfic on the list. analysis and commentary and posting saying "i wrote a story, email me if you want it" is fine. however youu don't need to post part of a story to say that. >> another possible option is the newsgroup, alt.tv.swatkats. this is to save the folks who d/l all their email the time, etc. spent on d/ling fanfic they didn't know/thought/??? they wanted. yes, this is a valid area of the swatkats community, however it can be better handeled in other places and ways. > >Do explain this opinion better and kill the shorthand, you're not >impressing anyone. > i will gladly explain it. first the "shorthand" comment. this is not shorthand, this is netspeak. netspeak is a system of acronyms, etc. (oops, that's "shorthand," i mean et cetera) that people use b/c it lets them type quicker. most of them are standad. what i'm trying to say is that some people have to download all their email. when i used to get the list on my popmail account i had to download everything. that got really annoying when people would send pictures, et cetera. i'm saying that if you want to post a pic (i assume that's an ok term) or a fanfic (another ok term if i recall correctly,) do it on the newsgroup. that way people can scan the topics and postings and if something interests them they've downloaded a header and a link instead of the whole file. i think i've attempted to prove my point and explain my stance so i'll shut up now. hackle >-- > >----------------- >Rauhnee Ranshanka >GateKat@SWATKats.Net > >************************************************************************* >"What enables an intelligent government and a wise military >leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary >accomplishments is foreknowledge." > Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. >************************************************************************* >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. 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(fwd) >> >> >> >>---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1998 00:37:02 -0400 (EDT) >>From: jennifer denise harlow >>To: Erin Marie Fellin , >> Sarah Elizabeth Bottomley , >> aubrie lynn santuccio , >> Jennifer Carrissa Hultgren , >> Kathryn L Miller , >> rob reg , Merilee Hammill >>, >> Courtney Guiheen Havens , >> Megan Ann Richards , >> Mindy Dawn Salganik , >> victoria elizabeth anne walsh , >> Megan Patricia Dunham , >> alixandra lee gailunas , >> Kristin Noelle Zocco , Jason >> >>Subject: Read this!!! (fwd) >> >> >> >>---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 20:57:57 -0400 (EDT) >>From: Alyson Adrienne Nimeth >>To: Carolyn Smith , ehudso01@ucis.vill.edu, >> Jill Mackay , jen porac >>, >> Kristin McDonough , lclenna@clemson.edu, >> mcdanie@umich.edu, mekell01@mailbox.syr.edu, meolaea@jmu.edu, >> Nicole Kalian , suranokm@jmu.edu, >> jennifer denise harlow , >> Thera Lee Larson , Stacy Ebbe >>, >> Megan Knapp >>Subject: Read this!!! 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Kanotz >jkanotz@pulsenet.com > > > > >--part1_893710519_boundary-- > >--part0_893710519_boundary-- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: sorry, but i'm about to go to NY city, just delete this Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 12:33:28 -0700 From: ypawtows@pop.halcyon.com (Yvonne Pawtowski) Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG CC: swatkats@PEAK.ORG At 12:15 PM 5/8/98 PDT, Missy Gora wrote: spam + chain letter snipped ... why in the world did you send this? -Yvonne Pawtowski __/^-^\__ *Miya!* ypawtows@pop.halcyon.com Resident Catbunny "Die-cast construction. It's a lost art." -- Optimus Primal ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Request Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 16:02:51 EDT From: BastKatkin To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net In a message dated 5/8/98 9:09:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time, GateKat@SWATKats.Net writes: << > Has anyone ever noticed that the Ace of Base picture in their first album, The Sign, looks like ?Callie, Chance, Jake and Felina except as people? (if you want me to send the picture, just speak up!) Please post this to the SKML at peak. The pic should come through this time. >> Here is the pic ----------------------------------------------------------------- [Image] ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Shadowalk: The Animus Mistral (4/07/98) Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 13:12:22 -0700 From: ypawtows@pop.halcyon.com (Yvonne Pawtowski) Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG CC: swatkats@PEAK.ORG At 11:49 AM 5/8/98 PDT, P.I. Hackle wrote: > >i will gladly explain it. first the "shorthand" comment. this is not >shorthand, this is netspeak. netspeak is a system of acronyms, etc. >(oops, that's "shorthand," i mean et cetera) that people use b/c it lets >them type quicker. most of them are standad. netspeak is not known by everyone. What can I say, I don't like having to pause in the middle of reading a post just so I can figure out what people are saying through their acronyms and such. And etc. is not shorthand, it is a common abbreviation. That is, common in non-internet areas. Not everyone is as up on netspeak as you. -Yvonne Pawtowski __/^-^\__ *Miya!* ypawtows@pop.halcyon.com Resident Catbunny "Die-cast construction. It's a lost art." -- Optimus Primal ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: My small opinion on all that stuff. Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 04:24:20 +0800 From: "Strike" To: -----Original Message----- From: Rauhnee Ranshanka To: Strike Date: Saturday, May 09, 1998 3:55 PM Subject: Re: My small opinion on all that stuff. >Do note this is not to the list. Please respond to me and not >the group. Actually I had intended for it to be for the list- best keep everyone informed, if you know what I mean. In case anyone thought to do more of any of the belowmentioned things. But, I think you're right in that this shouldn't go on the list. >> Sorry, but when seventeen or whatever emails out of 21 in my mailbox are from the same mailing list, I tend to think that maybe something could be done to make it more efficient..... > >Suggestions? >I don't bite unless flamed publicly, really. I wasn't intending to flame, so I hope you didn't take it that way. ;) I had just thought that a new mailing list could use a few directional pointers. >> Okay, first off, I think that the chain mail and the arguments about what is netspeak and what is not, should probably never have gotten on this list in the first place. (Apologies to those involved in that discussion, but it was kind of dumb.) Okay, enough on that. > >Agreed. I know how to deal with that kind of mess in the >future. I'll be posting the new rules soon. Please allow a >little leeway for a new katmin. I'm trying and I'm learning. No problem. I'm just suggesting- that's how you figure out what the list users want, yes? >> About the fanfic discussion: I agree that the mailing list is a good place for fanfic discussion and sharing.... but.... if I may? > >Go for it. > >> 1: I, personally, gained no insight into these tiny little clips from fanfics. They just sounded like sentences out of the blue, to me. I think that if you're going to post something, you ought to post a bit more than maybe just one paragraph. Like, a page's worth, maybe? That way the people reading can actually understand what's going on a bit better? How's that? > >Well said. >The little ones were not clips from any existing fanfic (except >maybe one from Hyena Boy). They are intended as little SK >thoughts to see if they spark anything. Otherwise, I guess just >ignore them. (comments back?) Ohhh... I see. I had thought they were just random lines taken from a fanfic- as in, "hey, I wanted to start this fanfic, here is a little bit of what I was thinking. Let me keep you updated." sort of thing. Heh. And I was thinking... "I don't get it." >> 2: (Rauhnee, this is directed a bit at you, but not in a bad way) I noticed that most of the fanfic clips come from you, but they come in seperate e-mails. Would it be possible for anyone posting more than one clip of fanfic to the list, to post them in the same e-mail? (And why are some people sending the same e-mail twice? Must be their mail servers?) > >It possible to post multiple FanFic in one message, I think it's >a bad idea. But that's my opinion. Is it really *that* annoying >to get two FanFic blips once a week? That's the highest rate I >post at with any regularity. Well, I had thought that all those little one-liners (mentioned above) were also parts of fanfics-in-progress- so I thought I was getting more fanfics than I was. I do remember once receiving a few of those in a day (it may just have been that I didn't check my mail for long enough so they carried over,) and had wondered why I was getting so many of the same thing in one day. >I've only posted a grand total of 4 FanFics (two I personally do >not honor with the term) -- two excerpts that should be long >enough for you (3 and 4 KB) and two ... mmm ... sound bites. I >can change the name on the sound bites so they are easier to >distinguish. Mmm ... I think I'll do that. It'll help on the >archive as well. Heh, okay. I actually think I've gotten myself straightened out- What I thought you were doing was writing a little bit of fanfic about every day, and posting the new bits to the list. I was thinking, "why the heck're they doing that? I'd rather read it when it's all finished, instead of these tiny little installments." >As for the double messages, at least one sender has a CC to the >list so it and all replies get double posted. Oooh. Well, I know Marc Rieley has screwy e-mail (matches his personality, actually, and that's not a compliment,) so that was kind of a moot question when I first mentioned it. >Since you seem to be calm and of an organized mind, I would >appreciate your further impute before I make my final decisions >on the new rules and reproductions. Being a jerk never helped anything. ;) I usually try to be nice. (There have been times that my buttons have been pushed, though....) Anywho- it's 4:30 am here, and I have a full day tomorrow- gotta go, talk to you soon! ~Strike (strike@sprintmail.com) http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9294/Main.htm "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history... this century's history.... We all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century." -Dan Quayle ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Shadowalk: The Animus Mistral (4/07/98) Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 14:34:07 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Yvonne Pawtowski wrote: > > At 11:49 AM 5/8/98 PDT, P.I. Hackle wrote: > > > >i will gladly explain it. first the "shorthand" comment. this is not shorthand, this is netspeak. netspeak is a system of acronyms, etc. (oops, that's "shorthand," i mean et cetera) that people use b/c it lets them type quicker. most of them are standad. > > netspeak is not known by everyone. What can I say, I don't like having to pause in the middle of reading a post just so I can figure out what people are saying through their acronyms and such. > > And etc. is not shorthand, it is a common abbreviation. That is, common in non-internet areas. > > Not everyone is as up on netspeak as you. Thank you Yvonne, for making four of my points. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Shadowalk: The Animus Mistral (4/07/98) Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 14:34:16 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Now for the rest. P.I. Hackle wrote: > however, the frequency of posts suggests that you prefer to use the list as an editing board at times How does frequency have anything to do with this intent? If I (or anyone else) wants to use this list to get their stories edited by the group in the group (which I think is fine), they really should post an entire story, which I haven't yet and probably won't. > (spelling error--more on this later?) Not unless you bring it up, so don't. > i don't think that it's bad to discuss fanfic on the list. analysis and commentary and posting saying "i wrote a story, email me if you want it" is fine. however youu don't need to post part of a story to say that. You're contradicting yourself here. Just a question: How can the group discus anything not see by everyone? That's not only unfair, it rude. > when i used to get the list on my popmail account i had to download everything. that got really annoying when people would send pictures, et cetera. You're starting a second debate here about posting pics. This one is about posting FanFic, and is four or five KB really that big (it's the size of your last response)? > that got really annoying when people would send pictures, et cetera. i'm saying that if you want to post a pic (i assume that's an ok term) or a fanfic (another ok term if i recall correctly,) do it on the newsgroup. Some people can't get the newsgroup, or do not get everything posted there. It seems to me that you are making a good argument to discontinue the ML in favor of the newsgroup. The NG seems to have all the advantages and none of the disadvantages from your messages. Correct me if I'm wrong. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Shadowalk: Old Days (pt 01) Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 14:34:26 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kat ML Lightning: "When I was young, every night I dreamed of that jet, the TurboKat, but not as she flew in those days. I saw the one you know now, and I saw myself flying her." She paused, chuckling softly. "Even when they first appeared, I couldn't have been more than two, I knew I be with them someday." Excerpt from the July 7, 2009 interview with Miki Furlson; Lightning of the SWAT Kats. -- (Series SWAT Kitten, eventually) _,'| .-''``-...___..--'; ----------------- /, \'. _..-' , ,--...--''' < \ .`--''' ` /| Rauhnee Ranshanka `-,;' ; ; ; GateKat@SWATKats.Net __...--'' __...--_..' .;.' (,__....----''' (,..--'' http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Shadowalk: The Animus Mistral (4/07/98) Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 16:07:43 -0700 From: High Lord Kyrie Menyth Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Mr. Hackle, I have some comments to make about this ... P.I. Hackle wrote: > > >If you'd bothered to even glance at the entire message you would > >have see that this is my version of an ad, and I have my work on > >my own site and links from DJ's. > > > > i can accept that this is an ad. i don't see a problem with that. > however, the frequency of posts suggests that you prefer to use the list > as an editing board at times--i used to ask for people to read my stuff > and provide comments, but that made it voluntary (spelling error--more > on this later?) It's not an editing board. The longer ones are finished work teasers, the shorter ones are just thoughts to stimulate other people. I have to edit her work, I know this. Maybe you don't understand. There are new rules, a new katmin. The guidelines are more broader than they have ever been. This is just how Rauhnee is running things. You have a voice in the matter, but it seems to be a very minor since no one else is supporting you. No disrespect to any of the old katmins. I think they have done a great job putting this ML together in the past. It's not looking down on the old katmins and thumbing my nose at them saying "She's got a better way of doing things than you ever did" (I want no misquotes nor misunderstandings about what I just said. If someone does, then you are no better than the tabloids with _their_ stories.) They did an excellent job in trying times. Kudos, salutes, a parade or two wouldn't hurt either to praise them. > > >Also, if you'd bothered to read to welcome aboard message I asked > >you to, you would know that FanFic is definitely on the > >acceptable list of things to post. If you want to disagree with > >that decision, make a better argument, and make it to the list. > > > > i don't think that it's bad to discuss fanfic on the list. analysis and > commentary and posting saying "i wrote a story, email me if you want it" > is fine. however youu don't need to post part of a story to say that. It's fine to say "I wrote a story, do you want it?". It's also fine to send a sample of the story too. There is no one way of doing this. Excuse me, but has anyone ever bought anything without at least seeing the product? I prefer to get a little sample of a story to judge for myself if I want more to read. There is so much fanfic out there, how do I know what is suitable for my preferences without getting a taste test. Jumping in blind to a fanfic may be fine for most people, but I have time concerns and can't wade through every one just to find the holy grail of stories (which I don't believe is out there, that's why its the holy grail theory and that's why people read fanfic, to find the holy grail). > > >> another possible option is the newsgroup, alt.tv.swatkats. this is > to save the folks who d/l all their email the time, etc. spent on d/ling > fanfic they didn't know/thought/??? they wanted. yes, this is a valid > area of the swatkats community, however it can be better handeled in > other places and ways. > > > >Do explain this opinion better and kill the shorthand, you're not > >impressing anyone. > > > > i will gladly explain it. first the "shorthand" comment. this is not > shorthand, this is netspeak. netspeak is a system of acronyms, etc. > (oops, that's "shorthand," i mean et cetera) that people use b/c it lets > them type quicker. most of them are standad. what i'm trying to say is > that some people have to download all their email. when i used to get > the list on my popmail account i had to download everything. that got > really annoying when people would send pictures, et cetera. i'm saying > that if you want to post a pic (i assume that's an ok term) or a fanfic > (another ok term if i recall correctly,) do it on the newsgroup. that > way people can scan the topics and postings and if something interests > them they've downloaded a header and a link instead of the whole file. > i think i've attempted to prove my point and explain my stance so i'll > shut up now. > I don't recall etc. being netspeak. Or it being a shorthand. And is there a reason why you can't capitalize the start of any sentences? The whole paragraph just doesn't look right without capitals. Speaking of netspeak ... I like BTW, but most of them are just clutter. When I was in the U.S. Marines, talking on the radio was just like talking normal, unless it was an unsecured line, then messages had to be said in code that was agreed upon by both parties. Otherwise, you just spoke normally. And netspeak being able to let you type quicker? Yes, it's great for composing a message, when your brain goes 100mph with you fingers at 25mph, shorthand/netspeak is great. But then going back and typing out the full word is more acceptable to me. It allows the people who don't know netspeak or who don't care for it to actually read the message and understand it. Netspeak is also great for chat rooms. You're in real time to other people, and it's important to type fast there. E-mail is non-chat room, so speaking normally for a broader audience is quite frankly more important. How are you going to get a message across if you talk in another language? It ends up being ignored or commented on that it's not understandable. Maybe I'm not fully into this growing culture of quick words and I don't care for it. The computer is an access to the world, a tool. I spend most of my time on it and almost no other outside contact other than trough it. Can't we just speak normally without buzz words getting in the way? Is there anyone on the list that has a problem with the katmin? The default is that you agree with her 100% if there isn't any voices raised. This is not a dictatorship where any one person can just rule us all. Your opinion matters. I've worked with Rauhnee for quite awhile now, and know that if you have a different opinion, have good data to prove your opinion. If there still is a difference, it can be negotiated as to how to come to a common ground. Knee jerk responses only gets you ignored or at best will let you rant until you calm down to talk nicely. Oh, and the whole issue with replies to Hackle is not to flame you. I know the rules and follow them by choice, not by force. This is just a difference of opinion and the talking still needs to be done because there is always time to talk until you come to an agreement or one party decides that their blood boils too much and flames. There seems to be a lot of static on the ML. I think it's great that she's decided to send out samples. A creative and interactive environment that is different from any other ML. Most ML's seem to be either: 01) An argument session about whatever. 02) New info about whatever. 03) One person sending out info, and some to tons to no feedback back to the ML. Let's be different than anything else out there. If some problems stem from the fact that people skim their mail and don't like to wait for the info, then maybe a reevaluation of what is important is in order. Waiting for a message for a few more seconds is not painful, nor will the world stop because the mail is not instant. This waiting is one of your gripes Hackle. That's life to wait for something, even if it's a few seconds. A further note: If a message is 6K and too balking, that means someone bothered to write out a whole idea. I never agreed with this "write a few pages in a letter" when I used snail mail in the Marines. I wanted to write whole volumes when writing. And with e-mail, there is a unlimited supply of virtual paper! Don't delete a message offhand just because it doesn't fit in with the limited view of "only 3K max messages please, all other is garbage". Grow beyond limitations, that's what the human race does (But oh so very hard. Look at history, and my point is made). Enough said, High Lord Kyrie Menyth ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "I prefer slicing. Flame cauterizes the wound, slicing makes you bleed. But blunt trauma has its advantages ... " - Lord Kyrie Menyth ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Pilot's Seat® Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 22:48:09 -0400 From: M Justin Rieley Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: The SWAT Kats Fan Club Online To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Here's this month's Pilot's Seat®. You can make comments, long as it isn't flame. M Justin Rieley ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Pilot's Seat® Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 22:48:38 -0400 From: M Justin Rieley Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: The SWAT Kats Fan Club Online To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Here's this month's Pilot's Seat®. You can make comments, long as it isn't flame. M Justin Rieley ----------------------------------------------------------------- Pilot's Seat by M Justin Rieley Okay. My first time for a column, so bear with me. I got this idea partially from the old editor of Vette magizine, D Randy Riggs. This article will be done monthly, weekly, bi-monthly, or quarterly. Whichever seems necessary. Some concers are with how the 'ol Kat fandom is holding up. In my opinion, not very well. It seems as though fights have broken loose over senseless things. Like between Katmin Rankshana and Hackle on the Peak.Org ML about her posting of fan fiction bits. I think that's perfectly okay to do that. And another is between Strike and Jade Callan of the IRC RPG. Why are all these fights breaking out? I dunno personally. But if it continues it's goodbye to the SWAT Kat fandom as we know it. Best advise: keep out of other kat's business, don't provoke them, don't annoy, and the obvious, don't yell. Yelling can lead to problems, and problems are not on the top of our list of things we want. The same with bloody revolution. More on that in a later time. Now, on to some jets. My all time favorite jet is the F-117A Nighthawk Stealth Fighter. It has very Stealthy capabilities, a stunning look, and, best of all, it has a low radar signature. I also love the SR-71 Blackbird, the pioneer of Stealth technology. The TurboKat measures up to these fine aeronautical machines. The TK also uses Harrier Jumpjet technology, hence the forward thrusters that enable it to hover. In upcoming weeks, I am scheduled to use the Navy's F/A-18 Hornet simulator. I bribed a Navy friend. Anyhow, this is a great way for me to inform you on how a real fighter jet's cockpit actually looks like and feels like. I'll give a report on that when I get through with the sims. In my super huge fan fiction I'm currently writing, I'm going to have some of the US' most expensive fighters and bombers in it. If you would like a copy of the rougher that Mt. Everest story, email me. Well, I must cut out now. Hafta meet friends over at Carrabba's for lunch. Ciao! ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: [Fwd: Mayor Ed?] Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 19:51:16 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kat ML More voice actor data from a NG archive. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Mayor Ed? Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:19:23 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://ww2.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/news?msg@17832@alt%2efan%2elion%2dking%26SWAT+Kats -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mayor Ed? ----------------------------------------------------------------- From Simba III Organization mail2news@nym.alias.net Date Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:23:39 -0800 (PST) Newsgroups alt.fan.lion-king Message-ID <199803131424.GAA13318@lionking.org> ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hya, If found this in the SWAT cats newsgroup about voice actors :) Jim Cummings -Mayor Manx, Warden Cyrus Meece, Morbulus, Scaredy Kat, Charlie ("The Ghost Pilot"), Feral's Sergeant (most of the time) possibly elderly man kat (Razor's Edge) (SWAT Kats) -Steele (Balto) -Robotnik (Sonic the Hedgehog...The one with the Freedom Fighters (I think)) -General Parvo (Road Rovers) -Winnie the Pooh, Tigger (Adventures of Winnie the Pooh) -NegaDuck (Darkwing Duck) -Ed (The Lion King) I didnt know Mayor Manx' voice was by Ed? I am starting to get a whole other perspective of our little golfplaying bureaucat :) Or imagine Ed to sound like Steele, or Steele like Ed! Adios, -----Simba "Pegla" III Van Trotslanden------- TLK Code 1.1: TLK++++ A+++ !C Mt+ DLK++++ L+ Pa++++ W++ S+ Tcts++++ RLA/RLCT RLMC$ A18 Cdnw+++ e+++ h# Iwt++++ p# Sm# ----------------------------------------------------- http://www.cytag.nl/homes/simba ICQ: 3193629 FurrySearch: for Furries only http://furry.ml.org "Being paranoid doesnt mean nobody is following you" ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: [Fwd: Mayor Ed?] Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 19:51:26 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kat ML More voice actor data from a NG archive. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Mayor Ed? Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 07:18:50 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://ww2.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/news?msg@17803@alt%2efan%2elion%2dking%26SWAT+Kats -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Re: Mayor Ed? ----------------------------------------------------------------- From Jessie Meerkat Organization mail2news@nym.alias.net Date Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:40:46 -0800 (PST) Newsgroups alt.fan.lion-king Message-ID <199803132240.OAA05016@lionking.org> ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Jim Cummings > -Mayor Manx, Warden Cyrus Meece, Morbulus, Scaredy Kat, Charlie ("The Ghost > Pilot"), Feral's Sergeant (most of the time) possibly elderly man kat (Razor's > Edge) (SWAT Kats) > -Steele (Balto) > -Robotnik (Sonic the Hedgehog...The one with the Freedom Fighters (I think)) > -General Parvo (Road Rovers) > -Winnie the Pooh, Tigger (Adventures of Winnie the Pooh) > -NegaDuck (Darkwing Duck) > -Ed (The Lion King) You forgot McLeach from the Rescuers Down Under! and Nimknull from the Chip & Dale Rescue rangers!.. > Or imagine Ed to sound like Steele. LOL! == Jessie/Zuri Wahuni Fumbo ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hakuna Matata Squad member || ICQ number 7731839 ============================================================ TLK-Lister/very bad speller|| jessemeerkat@rocketmail.com ************************************************************ KiB Agent/ Timonaholic || Agent J:oD ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Mageuzi is the most wonderful kat in the universe no matter what he wants to think! ;o)And I love him with all my heart! <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3 _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Pilot's Seat® Date: Fri, 8 May 1998 23:11:37 EDT From: RikkiFeral Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG In a message dated 98-05-08 22:49:58 EDT, you write: << Some concers are with how the 'ol Kat fandom is holding up. In my opinion, not very well. It seems as though fights have broken loose over senseless things. Like between Katmin Rankshana and Hackle on the Peak.Org ML about her posting of fan fiction bits. I think that's perfectly okay to do that. And another is between Strike and Jade Callan of the IRC RPG. Why are all these fights breaking out? I dunno personally. But if it continues it's goodbye to the SWAT Kat fandom as we know it. >> I was just thinkin' the same thing when I read all those letters over the posting of fanfiction to the mail list. Everywhere you look it seems fights are breaking out. I'm not saying we should all be some do-gooders or kiss everyone else's tail ;p, but we need to hold our tongues or the fandom is indeed going down. And that would be very sad after all the hard work so many kats put into the rpgs, clubs, web sites, yadda. ~Rikki Feral >^,,^< ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: sorry, but i'm about to go to NY city, just delete this Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 20:25:06 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG I think this quals as the best example of what does not belong on the SKLM I've ever seen. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Pilot's Seat® Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 20:25:33 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG M Justin Rieley wrote: > Pilot's Seat > >Okay. My first time for a column, so bear with me. I got this idea partially from the old editor of Vette magizine, D Randy Riggs. This article will be done monthly, weekly, bi-monthly, or quarterly. I hope you manage it weekly. > Some concers are with how the 'ol Kat fandom is holding up. In my opinion, not very well. It seems as though fights have broken loose over senseless things. Like between Katmin Rankshana and Hackle on the Peak.Org ML about her posting of fan fiction bits. I think that's perfectly okay to do that. Thank you and I couldn't agree more that spat was senseless. But then, any fight is senseless. I'm not perfect for my half in that mess. It's over from my end. > And another is between Strike and Jade Callan of the IRC RPG. Why are all these fights breaking out? Just a guess, but there have always been squabbles, there probably always will be. We can just try to keep it to a minimum and not keep hurt feelings when they are over (this is more critical -- everyone fights sooner or later. It how we deal with the fallout that is important). > I dunno personally. But if it continues it's goodbye to the SWAT Kat fandom as we know it. Best advise: keep out of other kat's business, don't provoke them, don't annoy, and the obvious, don't yell. Yelling can lead to problems, and problems are not on the top of our list of things we want. Oh Rah! Thank you for putting this a lot better than I can at the moment. > Now, on to some jets. My all time favorite jet is the F-117A Nighthawk Stealth Fighter. It has very Stealthy capabilities, a stunning look, and, best of all, it has a low radar signature. I also love the SR-71 Blackbird, the pioneer of Stealth technology. The TurboKat measures up to these fine aeronautical machines. The TK also uses Harrier Jumpjet technology, hence the forward thrusters that enable it to hover. Nice tie-in. Keep it up, at least I'm interested. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: [Fwd: Mayor Ed?] Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 20:55:11 -0700 From: ypawtows@pop.halcyon.com (Yvonne Pawtowski) Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG CC: SWAT Kat ML Minor nitpick/request... Please don't post in HTML. Not everyone reads mail off of their web-browser. Makes it very difficult to read. -Yvonne Pawtowski __/^-^\__ *Miya!* ypawtows@pop.halcyon.com Resident Catbunny "Die-cast construction. It's a lost art." -- Optimus Primal ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: [Fwd: Mayor Ed?] Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 21:02:48 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Yvonne Pawtowski wrote: > > Minor nitpick/request... > Please don't post in HTML. Not everyone reads mail off of their web-browser. Makes it very difficult to read. Not that minor, and sorry. I didn't realize the original was htlm. If anyone couldn't read it, I'll copy send a text version. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: sorry, but i'm about to go to NY city, just delete this Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 21:17:01 PDT From: "P.I. Hackle" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG i find myself in aggreance! wow! a similarity! this could begin something or another... hackle > >I think this quals as the best example of what does not belong on >the SKLM I've ever seen. > >-- > >----------------- >Rauhnee Ranshanka >GateKat@SWATKats.Net > >************************************************************************* >"What enables an intelligent government and a wise military >leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary >accomplishments is foreknowledge." > Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. >************************************************************************* >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center >Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org >850 SW 15th Street >Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: [Fwd: Mayor Ed?] Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 21:28:24 -0700 From: ypawtows@pop.halcyon.com (Yvonne Pawtowski) Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG CC: swatkats@PEAK.ORG At 09:02 PM 5/8/98 -0700, Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > >Not that minor, and sorry. I didn't realize the original was >htlm. If anyone couldn't read it, I'll copy send a text version. I got two copies. The second had plain text at the bottom. -Yvonne Pawtowski __/^-^\__ *Miya!* ypawtows@pop.halcyon.com Resident Catbunny "Die-cast construction. It's a lost art." -- Optimus Primal ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Shadowalk: The Animus Mistral (4/07/98) Date: Fri, 08 May 1998 21:44:13 -0700 From: Sigma 9 Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG > 1) I wish to know who disagrees with my view, why (in longhand > please), and what they think this list is for. I disagree with you, Rauhnee Ranshanka. I thought that the list was dead before, but this is crazy! I feel that the fanfic is totally out of line, and is absolutely unneccisary. I've also given up on helping you on your stories as it is. I thought that you might have had some clue to as to what you were writing about, but now I call the fanfic that I read to not only be a Beautiful Dreamer lookalike (And FYI, It was first created in 1995, and first uploaded to the internet early 1997, possibly late 1996, so I can say that your story is a clone of mine). Also, I've been on every kats list ever created, and I could think up a dozen topics to write about as well.. Aka... SWAT Kats compaired to anime, Anti-tED tURNER related info (as he's the one responsible for canning the show), physics about the show (aka how time travel can't exist, but does in the kats universe), Possible completions to the phrase You know that you watch too much SWAT Kats when..., Lyfestyles of the SWAT Kats fans, etc... I think that this list is really a fourum for kats fans to meet each other, disgus the Kats topic, and other things semi-related. > 2) At least this katmin perceives the list for the sharing and > discussing of *all* things SWAT Kats related, especially the > creative components (writing and art) and advertising of SK > sites. I admit that this new listadmin does do this, but the first list admin was even dooler than that. This place used to be really alive (aka 50 messenges a day), because we were unrestricted to talk about all items, and also use it as a forum for anything Kats related, and we were even allowed to get silly on our topics of disgusions. Perhaps, you should Try to think about this. This list now is even worse than dead, and I know from experiance that this is a sad state to see in anything TV show related. I hope that I didn't offend you, but I really feel that I needed to say something. -- Rahshu\RahGor\Sigma-9 Az-Mahnsur Furry code 1.2 FAAmhpsw1ads/CWhmps3adfs/XGmp4adcs a+ c- d h+++ m- p r+/++ t+++ w z sp RLU a- cdwn++ d-- e! f h* i+ p++ sm- Visit my homepage at: http://members.xoom.com/Rhahshu/ Visit my furry page at: http://members.xoom.com/Rhahshu/furry.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: My small opinion on all that stuff. Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 00:30:57 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: Strike Do note this is not to the list. Please respond to me and not the group. Strike wrote: > Sorry, but when seventeen or whatever emails out of 21 in my mailbox are from the same mailing list, I tend to think that maybe something could be done to make it more efficient..... Suggestions? I don't bite unless flamed publicly, really. > Okay, first off, I think that the chain mail and the arguments about what is netspeak and what is not, should probably never have gotten on this list in the first place. (Apologies to those involved in that discussion, but it was kind of dumb.) Okay, enough on that. Agreed. I know how to deal with that kind of mess in the future. I'll be posting the new rules soon. Please allow a little leeway for a new katmin. I'm trying and I'm learning. > About the fanfic discussion: I agree that the mailing list is a good place for fanfic discussion and sharing.... but.... if I may? Go for it. > 1: I, personally, gained no insight into these tiny little clips from fanfics. They just sounded like sentences out of the blue, to me. I think that if you're going to post something, you ought to post a bit more than maybe just one paragraph. Like, a page's worth, maybe? That way the people reading can actually understand what's going on a bit better? How's that? Well said. The little ones were not clips from any existing fanfic (except maybe one from Hyena Boy). They are intended as little SK thoughts to see if they spark anything. Otherwise, I guess just ignore them. (comments back?) > 2: (Rauhnee, this is directed a bit at you, but not in a bad way) I noticed that most of the fanfic clips come from you, but they come in seperate e-mails. Would it be possible for anyone posting more than one clip of fanfic to the list, to post them in the same e-mail? (And why are some people sending the same e-mail twice? Must be their mail servers?) It possible to post multiple FanFic in one message, I think it's a bad idea. But that's my opinion. Is it really *that* annoying to get two FanFic blips once a week? That's the highest rate I post at with any regularity. I've only posted a grand total of 4 FanFics (two I personally do not honor with the term) -- two excerpts that should be long enough for you (3 and 4 KB) and two ... mmm ... sound bites. I can change the name on the sound bites so they are easier to distinguish. Mmm ... I think I'll do that. It'll help on the archive as well. As for the double messages, at least one sender has a CC to the list so it and all replies get double posted. Since you seem to be calm and of an organized mind, I would appreciate your further impute before I make my final decisions on the new rules and reproductions. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Shadowalk: The Animus Mistral (4/07/98) Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 00:31:05 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: "Signma 9 (Rahshu)" Do note this is not to the list. Please respond to me and not the group. first please calm down Now on to what you said. Sigma 9 wrote: > I disagree with you, Rauhnee Ranshanka. I thought that the list was dead before, but this is crazy! I feel that the fanfic is totally out of line, and is absolutely unneccisary. Pity. I label mine, so just ignore them. Can you explain why SK FanFic is out of line on a SK list? > I've also given up on helping you on your stories as it is. I thought that you might have had some clue to as to what you were writing about, but now I call the fanfic that I read to not only be a Beautiful Dreamer lookalike (And FYI, It was first created in 1995, and first uploaded to the internet early 1997, possibly late 1996, so I can say that your story is a clone of mine). This should have gone to me, not the list. I'm sorry to loose you as an editor, but ok. I knew quite a while ago Beautiful Dreamer was written before mine -- that was obvious with the number of stories you'd posted. Why should either of us care which came first? What does my posting an excerpt to the list change how good my work is in your opinion? > Also, I've been on every kats list ever created, and I could think up a dozen topics to write about as well.. Aka... > SWAT Kats compaired to anime, > physics about the show (aka how time travel can't exist, but does in the kats universe), > Possible completions to the phrase You know that you watch too much SWAT Kats when..., > Lyfestyles of the SWAT Kats fans, etc... So why haven't you? It sounds interesting. If you and a few others bothered to talk on the list, my FanFic posting wouldn't seem so important, and would probably be fewer if there are *real* discussions going on. That's your job, not mine. I write stories and ideas, not as questions for the most part. > Anti-tED tURNER related info (as he's the one responsible for canning the show), Please don't. Even I've heard more than I want of this one. > I think that this list is really a fourum for kats fans to meet each other, disgus the Kats topic, and other things semi-related. Ok, make some conversations you like. I don't disagree, I just see a broader horizon. > I admit that this new listadmin does do this, but the first list admin was even dooler than that. This place used to be really alive (aka 50 messenges a day), because we were unrestricted to talk about all items, and also use it as a forum for anything Kats related, and we were even allowed to get silly on our topics of disgusions. Perhaps, you should Try to think about this. This list now is even worse than dead, and I know from experiance that this is a sad state to see in anything TV show related. I hope that I didn't offend you, but I really feel that I needed to say something. What's 'dooler' mean? Is high traffic deemed good or bad by you? Is getting a little silly a problem with you, or do you like the option? If you don't like the discussions going on or dislike how low traffic is, post some you like. I don't offend that easily. I would like answers to all of the above questions, soon. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Katmin Notes and Clarifications Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 00:31:41 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: EinStein@donau.de Cristian Berger wrote: > Maybe you should combine your postings. When you post 2 pieces of fanfic send them in one E-Mail seperated by something like ##########. Then everyone who doesn't want it can delete it easily. You can write something in the Subject, too. Maybe "FF: title of it" I have a code. If it has 'Shadowalk' in front of it and the name of the story it came from afterwards. As for everyone else, I'm the only one posting FF at this time. I also only post one actual FanFic a week, tops. > Maybe such a system would be usefull. But you shoudn't force people to do so. I never will, but I will suggest it next round. > About the expression "the newest one to air". What air? Cartoon Network is almost international. In europe we have about 3 versions of it. It's in reference to what NG and ML do that have their shows still in production. The newest one to air is the episode that just finished production and is on the air for the first time. Anything else? -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Katmin Notes and Clarifications Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 09:09:14 +0100 From: Christian Berger To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > > It's four hours and counting. > > I'm calmer now and it seems to me that somewhere along the line > at least one person out there is confused as to what I see this > list as. All this (at least about the main list) is in the first > two messages everyone got, but I'll repeat and clarify it for > those who did not read or understand it the first time. (this > list is better organized and spelled out anyway.) > > So here it is, in detail. > > I am interested in hearing what everyone else out there thinks of > this outline; for and against, and please respond to the list if > you have an opinion. I'm not going to change, but a third ML > might come out of it if there is a real division out there. > Otherwise, deal with it Hackle. > > -------------- > swatkats@peak.org is for: > > 01) The sharing and discussing of thoughts and ideas on (but not > limited to) the characters, physics, society, races, geography, > biology, evolution, technology, episodes and philosophy of the > SWAT Kats and all the worlds that have grown from it (This > includes distinct FanFic worlds as long as a notice of such > origins is posted) that is suitable for a general audience. > Anyone have any more subjects to add to this list? > > 02) The sharing and discussing of SWAT Kats art, FanFic, poetry, > mini-scenarios and all other creative works suitable for a > general audience. > > 03) Advertising of SWAT Kats sites and sites that contain SK > material, yours or anyone else's. This includes update notices > to any site already mentioned to the list. > > 04) The posting of any relevant material from > news:alt.tv.swatkats (I'll be doing most of this -- I check it > daily so if a message there does not appear on the list within 24 > hours, forward it yourself for I did not get it) and any site > containing very little SK material (such as Cartoon > Over-Analyzations, mentioned a little while ago and Cartoon > Network's site) as long as it is not too large (keep it under 1 > MB, preferably a good bit less). Otherwise a link to such a site > is recommended to keep difficulties to a minimum. > > 05) The announcement of any event (such as a SK superchunk, SK > schedule change or new member) that should be of interest to at > least part of the community. > > 06) JPG, GIF and TXT attachments under 1 MB only please. > > -------------- > sk_adult@peak.org is for: > (going up as soon as PEAK gets back to me) > > 01) The sharing and discussing of thoughts and ideas on (but not > limited to) the characters, physics, society, races, geography, > biology, evolution, technology, episodes and philosophy of the > SWAT Kats and all the worlds that have grown from it (This > includes distinct FanFic worlds as long as a notice of such > origins is posted) that is NOT suitable for a general audience. > > 02) The sharing and discussing of SWAT Kats art, FanFic, poetry, > mini-scenarios and all other creative works that are NOT suitable > for a general audience. > > 03) The posting of any relevant material from > news:alt.tv.swatkats (I'll be doing most of this -- I check it > daily so if a message there does not appear on the list in 24 > hours, forward it yourself for I did not get it) and any site > containing very little SK material (such as Cartoon > Over-Analyzations, mentioned a little while ago and Cartoon > Network's site) as long as it is not too large (keep it under 1 > MB, preferably a good bit less). Otherwise a link to such a site > is recommended to keep difficulties to a minimum. > > 04) Advertising of SWAT Kats sites and sites that contain > Adult-oriented SK material, yours or anyone else's. This > includes update notices to any site already mentioned to the > list. > > 05) JPG, GIF and TXT attachments under 1 MB only please. Please under 100Kb, please!!! I've got my mailbox on an Windows NT server. So everytime the connection brakes, I can't access the mailbox until the server get's rebooted. > > -------------- > Some other notes on the list: > > Please DON'T use shorthand when writing to the list. > Please DO spell check your messages if you can. > > This is not in real-time, so there is no need to hurry. > Shorthand and poor spelling makes it difficult to read postings. > I can't spell myself and I can't think of anyone off the top of > my head so I'm not picking on any particular kats here, it's just > a note. > > As far as I've seen and heard, I'm a bit different from the past > three katmins -- I have the time, energy and fanaticism to be a > very active manager and member. More importantly, I also seem to > have a broader view of what is acceptable posting. If there are > a substantial number of list members out there that have a > problem with this, I don't mind creating a SK-creative ML. It > just seems silly with how little traffic this list sees and how > close the topics are to each other as we can't discus what they > might be doing with the next episode or what just happened in the > newest one to air. Maybe you should combine your postings. When you post 2 pieces of fanfic send them in one E-Mail seperated by something like ##########. Then everyone who doesn't want it can delete it easily. You can write something in the Subject, too. Maybe "FF: title of it" Maybe such a system would be usefull. But you shoudn't force people to do so. About the expression "the newest one to air". What air? Cartoon Network is almost international. In europe we have about 3 versions of it. Servus Casandro -- ____________________________________________ http://www.donau.de/privhome/berger mailto:EinStein@donau.de telnet:192.82.208.37:9999 (Fur Toonia; Casandro's Room) Furry Code 1.2 FFLw3a A- C- D- H+ M+ P- R T+++ W-- Z- Sm RLCT a- c+++l d e++ f++++ h* i+ p-- sm ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Katmin Notes and Clarifications Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 01:10:21 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: EinStein@donau.de Christian Berger wrote: > Maybe you should say that to the people. A system is only usefull if anyone knows how it works. I intend to, as soon as this round settles out a bit (I never though one silly little excerpt could snowball like this). > 1. How is the official process of joining the ML? I need it for my homepage. Right now, I don't have that neat automated script you sent me for this list (could you make one for each list?), but the long and short of it is. For the standard list: Send a message to Majordomo@maillist.peak.org with only 'subscribe swatkats' minus quotes in the body of the message. For the adult list: Send a message to Majordomo@maillist.peak.org with only 'subscribe sk_adult' minus quotes in the body of the message. Or you can send e-mail to me. > 2. If you screw out the fuse for your washing machine and put an 60W lamp into it, what happenes? (and why) Why did the 75W lamp burn thought when a girl tried that a few years ago? (This question actually bothers about 24 people in my area. I'm the only one who knows the answer, but I just want to see if other people know it, too) I'm not even sure I understand the question. I don't get along with riddles very well. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Katmin Notes and Clarifications Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 09:42:13 +0100 From: Christian Berger To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > > Cristian Berger wrote: > > Maybe you should combine your postings. When you post 2 pieces of fanfic send them in one E-Mail seperated by something like ##########. Then everyone who doesn't want it can delete it easily. You can write something in the Subject, too. Maybe "FF: title of it" > > I have a code. If it has 'Shadowalk' in front of it and the name > of the story it came from afterwards. As for everyone else, I'm > the only one posting FF at this time. I also only post one > actual FanFic a week, tops. Maybe you should say that to the people. A system is only usefull if anyone knows how it works. > > Maybe such a system would be usefull. But you shoudn't force people to do so. > > I never will, but I will suggest it next round. > > > About the expression "the newest one to air". What air? Cartoon Network is almost international. In europe we have about 3 versions of it. > > It's in reference to what NG and ML do that have their shows > still in production. The newest one to air is the episode that > just finished production and is on the air for the first time. > > Anything else? Yes, 2 things: 1. How is the oficial process of joining the ML? I need it for my homepage. 2. If you screw out the fuse for your washing machine and put an 60W lamp into it, what happenes? (and why) Why did the 75W lamp burn thought when a girl tried that a few years ago? (This question actually bothers about 24 people in my area. I'm the only one who knows the answer, but I just want to see if other people know it, too) Servus Casandro -- ____________________________________________ http://www.donau.de/privhome/berger mailto:EinStein@donau.de telnet:192.82.208.37:9999 (Fur Toonia; Casandro's Room) Furry Code 1.2 FFLw3a A- C- D- H+ M+ P- R T+++ W-- Z- Sm RLCT a- c+++l d e++ f++++ h* i+ p-- sm ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: My small opinion on all that stuff. Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 04:12:05 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: Strike Strike wrote: > >Do note this is not to the list. Please respond to me and not the group. > Actually I had intended for it to be for the list- best keep everyone informed, if you know what I mean. In case anyone thought to do more of any if the belowmentioned things. But, I think you're right in that this shouldn't go on the list. I intend to post all this stuff in the Archive for anyone on the list who is interested, but it doesn't need to be displayed until settled. > >Suggestions? > >I don't bite unless flamed publicly, really. > > I wasn't intending to flame, so I hope you didn't take it that way. ;) I had just thought that a new mailing list could use a few directional pointers. You weren't (believe me), but there have been a couple over this debate. And I'm the one who asked for opinions and pointers. > No problem. I'm just suggesting- that's how you figure out what the list users want, yes? Exactly. > Ohhh... I see. I had thought they were just random lines taken from a fanfic- as in, "hey, I wanted to start this fanfic, here is a little bit of what I was thinking. Let me keep you updated." sort of thing. Heh. And I was thinking... "I don't get it." Apparently you were not the only one. It's going to be one of the clarifications I make to the list soon. > > I do remember once receiving a few of those in a day (it may just have been that I didn't check my mail for long enough so they carried over,) and had wondered why I was getting so many of the same thing in one day. You might also be remembering what I forwarded from the newsgroup archive (couple three weeks ago I think). There were five or six that day, but none of them actually mine. > Being a jerk never helped anything. ;) I usually try to be nice. (There have been times that my buttons have been pushed, though....) I know about the buttons and that it's better to be nice. I try. This one just managed to hit my two biggest "Do Not Press This" topics at once and I had a bit of a fit. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Katmin Notes and Clarifications Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 16:35:27 +0100 From: Christian Berger To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > > Christian Berger wrote: > > Maybe you should say that to the people. A system is only usefull if anyone knows how it works. > > I intend to, as soon as this round settles out a bit (I never > though one silly little excerpt could snowball like this). I know, you'd better not send much fanfic over the list. You could upload it somewhere and then post a summarry of the story. Everyone who wants to read it can do so. The others don't have to. That's why I've made the hotmail account. (still there) > > 1. How is the official process of joining the ML? I need it for my homepage. > > Right now, I don't have that neat automated script you sent me > for this list (could you make one for each list?), but the long > and short of it is. I didn't have one for the old list, it was all done by coollist. I'll try if I can programm something. (Never did it!!!) > For the standard list: Send a message to > Majordomo@maillist.peak.org with only 'subscribe swatkats' minus > quotes in the body of the message. > > For the adult list: Send a message to Majordomo@maillist.peak.org > with only 'subscribe sk_adult' minus quotes in the body of the > message. > > Or you can send e-mail to me. > > > 2. If you screw out the fuse for your washing machine and put an 60W lamp into it, what happenes? (and why) Why did the 75W lamp burn thought when a girl tried that a few years ago? (This question actually bothers about 24 people in my area. I'm the only one who knows the answer, but I just want to see if other people know it, too) > > I'm not even sure I understand the question. > I don't get along with riddles very well. It's not a real riddle, it's just quite simple physics. Servus Casandro -- ____________________________________________ http://www.donau.de/privhome/berger mailto:EinStein@donau.de telnet:192.82.208.37:9999 (Fur Toonia; Casandro's Room) Furry Code 1.2 FFLw3a A- C- D- H+ M+ P- R T+++ W-- Z- Sm RLCT a- c+++l d e++ f++++ h* i+ p-- sm ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 09:46:36 -0700 From: Sigma 9 To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net > Do note this is not to the list. Please respond to me and not > the group. FYI #1, I have just seen the only guy I ever loved get dumped int the worst possible way I could ever imagine, #2 I never check my E-mail over the week, making your spam a nuisance. #3 I read my mail in chronological order, so I had no idea what the Hell was going on, and I will NOT calm down right now becuse of the personal Hell that I am dealing with. Sorry about being so crazy, but I can't have all this crap in my life! > > > first > please calm down > > Now on to what you said. > > Sigma 9 wrote: > > I disagree with you, Rauhnee Ranshanka. I thought that the list was dead before, but this is crazy! I feel that the fanfic is totally out of line, and is absolutely unneccisary. > > Pity. I label mine, so just ignore them. > Can you explain why SK FanFic is out of line on a SK list? > > > I've also given up on helping you on your stories as it is. I thought that you might have had some clue to as to what you were writing about, but now I call the fanfic that I read to not only be a Beautiful Dreamer lookalike (And FYI, It was first created in 1995, and first uploaded to the internet early 1997, possibly late 1996, so I can say that your story is a clone of mine). > > This should have gone to me, not the list. > I'm sorry to loose you as an editor, but ok. > I knew quite a while ago Beautiful Dreamer was written before > mine -- that was obvious with the number of stories you'd > posted. Why should either of us care which came first? > What does my posting an excerpt to the list change how good my > work is in your opinion? > > > Also, I've been on every kats list ever created, and I could think up a dozen topics to write about as well.. Aka... > > SWAT Kats compaired to anime, > > physics about the show (aka how time travel can't exist, but does in the kats universe), > > Possible completions to the phrase You know that you watch too much SWAT Kats when..., > > Lyfestyles of the SWAT Kats fans, etc... > > So why haven't you? > It sounds interesting. > If you and a few others bothered to talk on the list, my FanFic > posting wouldn't seem so important, and would probably be fewer > if there are *real* discussions going on. That's your job, not > mine. I write stories and ideas, not as questions for the most > part. > > > Anti-tED tURNER related info (as he's the one responsible for canning the show), > > Please don't. Even I've heard more than I want of this one. > > > I think that this list is really a fourum for kats fans to meet each other, disgus the Kats topic, and other things semi-related. > > Ok, make some conversations you like. I don't disagree, I just > see a broader horizon. > > > I admit that this new listadmin does do this, but the first list admin was even dooler than that. This place used to be really alive (aka 50 messenges a day), because we were unrestricted to talk about all items, and also use it as a forum for anything Kats related, and we were even allowed to get silly on our topics of disgusions. Perhaps, you should Try to think about this. This list now is even worse than dead, and I know from experiance that this is a sad state to see in anything TV show related. I hope that I didn't offend you, but I really feel that I needed to say something. > > What's 'dooler' mean? > > Is high traffic deemed good or bad by you? > > Is getting a little silly a problem with you, or do you like the > option? > > If you don't like the discussions going on or dislike how low > traffic is, post some you like. > > I don't offend that easily. > > I would like answers to all of the above questions, soon. > > -- > > ----------------- > Rauhnee Ranshanka > GateKat@SWATKats.Net > > ************************************************************************* > "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military > leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary > accomplishments is foreknowledge." > Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. > ************************************************************************* -- Rahshu\RahGor\Sigma-9 Az-Mahnsur Furry code 1.2 FAAmhpsw1ads/CWhmps3adfs/XGmp4adcs a+ c- d h+++ m- p r+/++ t+++ w z sp RLU a- cdwn++ d-- e! f h* i+ p++ sm- Visit my homepage at: http://members.xoom.com/Rhahshu/ Visit my furry page at: http://members.xoom.com/Rhahshu/furry.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Regarding Everything Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 15:38:23 -0400 From: SilverKat Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG As most veteran list members know, I post messages seldomly, choosing a time when I actually have something important to say or where objective input is needed. I feel that this is one of those times! This morning I opened my e-mail and found about 24 messages. Great: no dead air. Terrible: almost nothing positive! Most of the e-mail was (in my opinion) petty and useless arguing and pointless back stabbing. Kats, grow up!!! Now, I apologize to anyone offended by this, but you'll have to deal with it. Obviously this arguing is getting nowhere (proof=dozens of posts without a solution). Compromise! Make an effort to at least try to make everyone happy (it will never happen, I know) but the effort should still be made. If you have hostility towards someone, or are just in a really poopy mood, go punch a couple pillows or something, don't lash out at others. O.K. Now that that's over with I have an interesting hypothesis to share with all of you. Please post comments. Recently I was talking to someone about how the SK were canceled for no particular reason. This person, knowing more about tED tURNER than I, suggested that the theme of vigilantism portrayed in the SK conflicted with tED's own beliefs, leading to his canning of the show. Anyone agree, disagree, have other reasons? -SilverKat "Without order there is chaos. Without chaos there is boredom" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Pilot's Seat®, and other assorted info. Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 18:09:33 -0400 From: M Justin Rieley Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: The SWAT Kats Fan Club Online To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG I guess a weekly edition of PS would be a better idea to keep up on current info than by monthly. Thanks Rauhnee. Moving on to other info, I recall hearing somewhere that Turner dropped the SWAT Kats due to lack of merchandise?? I dunno if this is correct, but Turner Broadcasting is gonna have some explaining to do this month. I'm typing letters stating why the SWAT Kats were calcelled, and demanding a full explination of the cause. I think if we all give a hand in this idea, they might get a hint there are SK fans out there, which they thought never existed. I'm giving the petition full swing, hoping more visitors to pass by that way. Email me for comments/ and such. Justin ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Vigilantism and tED Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 15:36:15 PDT From: "Katareena Perkins" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG <<< Recently I was talking to someone about how the SK were canceled for no particular reason. This person, knowing more about tED tURNER than I, suggested that the theme of vigilantism portrayed in the SK conflicted with tED's own beliefs, leading to his canning of the show. Anyone agree, disagree, have other reasons?>>> Thank-you, SilverKat... Hmm...Are you saying that tED has more of a Commander Feral view? The unintentional destruction of property has his undies in a twist, type-thing? ::smiles:: I'm not quite as sharp today as I'd like to be. Coming to my mailbox with 30 junk messages - most of them from this mailing list seems to have fried my brain. As for where I stand on the fanfiction deal (if you reply to this bit, please label the e-mail as something other than Vigilantism and tED) I'd like to place my vote with no fanfiction. A good solution would be to make a description of the fanfiction bits (like DJ does on the fanfiction archive) and then give your e-mail address for people to get in contact with you to read it. ~Klawz ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: KATMIN: Cease Fire! Cease Fire! All Weapons Show Clear. Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 15:54:34 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kats ML The battle is now over, all grievances about suitability are now restricted to privet duels with the katmin to be posted in The ML Archive, one way or another. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ On subject codes: KATMIN: these are posts directly related to my function as the katmin and will mostly be announcements about new members, list status, any modifications to list rules, and requests that pertain to the administration of this list. I use and wish to encourage anyone else who posts FanFic or the like to decide on and announce a similar system to identify their work (in general as FanFic or specifically as theirs). 'FanFic:', 'FF:' and 'Edit?:' are suggestions I have been given and are now set as default codes to mean 'This is FanFic'. 'Edit?:' being a specific request for the list, or someone on it, to help edit the work, preferably on the list. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The outline given in my last katmin speech (Katmin Notes and Clarifications) still stands. I will not repeat it here. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ As much as I find it refreshing and stimulating to have a little passion and fire on the list, not to mention traffic (even if it was a lot of garbage), the current round of debates are now over. All further discussions and opinions regarding the subject matter and content of posts to this list should go directly to me. mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net. It will be posted to the Archive and announced for all to read if they wish when settled in some manner. I would honestly prefer to leave it open for what amounts to a democratic vote, but it has become pathetically apparent that several members of this list (meself included some of the time) can not handle this very well. For the list members who dislike FanFic here, or dislike the direction the list is heading, Post Your Own Conversations! I know I've seen other katmin's say this (in one form or another) and it looks like one of those reminders that simply must be restated every so often. If list traffic is slow or going badly, post ideas. Sigma 9 gave a good starter list of possible topics (though please stay away from the tED tURNER bashing -- it's *really* old news and there is nothing new that can be said on it), and I'm sure there are more. If you are bright enough to be dissatisfied, use that gray matter between your ears to post something better. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ For everyone's reference, we have 51 subscribers at this time and April 1st to May 8, 92 messages have been posted by 24 of those members. Of those 24, only 16 have posted more than once. We have a substantial silent membership. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ All this over a little FanFic excerpt add -- we fight better than we talk. Pity. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I now return you to your regularly unscheduled listmail. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Ranshanka's Creative Postings Explanation Date: Sat, 09 May 1998 15:54:49 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kats ML Since it seems to be a sore subject for a couple kats out there, and as it's a good idea by itself, I'm including a notice in the subject of all my messages that contain creative writing (FanFic and sound bites). They are as follows. Shadowalk: Excerpts of my posted FanFic. These will usually be between 4 and 6 KB and include a link to the series they are from. Dreamwalk: Story sound bites and ideas (anyone else who wishes to post these is welcome to use this code). These will rarely exceed three or four sentences. These are only random SK thoughts and story threads that will usually have little to nothing to do with my (or any one else's) work. Those that do are outside the actual continum of the story because they are so far in the future of the world presented (Lightning's interview is set 13 years past were the series is to date), that they do not count. It is my hope that a few of them might spark something like a "Story by the Group", memories of part of "Atlanta's War On Us?" and all (I found that facinating to watch it evolve and grow, even if I wasn't confident enough to add to it at the time). If you don't like to read fanfic here, or mine, now you will know what is it before looking at it. The delete key is not that hard to find, and they are not they big. And here's a thought. Post something worth descusing (we have the begining of two now, thank's to SilverKat and Justin). If I have something worth reading or thinking about, I won't be posting as many of my creative works. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: Cease Fire! Cease Fire! All Weapons Show Clear. Date: Sat, 9 May 1998 21:20:32 EDT From: Hyena boy Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG In a message dated 98-05-09 18:53:44 EDT, you write: << Of those 24, only 16 have posted more than once. We have a substantial silent membership. some of us would prefer to stay out of the firestorm. change is inevitably good, however difficult. you can't make a mutigen without breaking a few beakers. (forgive me) << we fight better than we talk. Pity. nice observation. all i'm saying is: isn't this sposed to be FUN? life is too short (even if you have 9 of 'em) to worry about it. If we must fight, then we must fight. so be it! After all, that's what we Kats do best! my .0002 cents worth. -HB ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Large posts on the SKML Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 08:24:43 -0400 From: Paul Kemner To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net One of the problems I see with posting large files (or a similarly large selection of smaller files) is that you're stuck downloading them no matter what. If I have limited time in the morning (or whenever) to check my email, I can't choose which emails to download. My entire 'mail reading' time is taken up downloading large files that I don't have an interest in ( or that I might be interested in later, but not *now* ) That's why I'd prefer to have fanfic authors and artists post a "teaser" message or ad to the list, instead of a big selection: viz: *********************************************************************** A natural disaster unleashes an ancient mind-destroying horror in part 1 of my new series "Megakat Muckrakers" on www.somefanfixsite.org or I've drawn a spiffy pic of Razor using sine bars on a milling machine, see it at: www.someartsite.kat *********************************************************************** More often than not, I'll check on that link later, when I've got more time. But if I've been waiting a long time for a big email file to download, I may just delete it immediately out of frustration! =^^= Paul Kemner pkemner@bright.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Large posts on the SKML Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 16:33:45 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: Paul Kemner Paul Kemner wrote: > > One of the problems I see with posting large files (or a similarly large selection of smaller files) is that you're stuck downloading them no matter what. Ok. That's kind of a given with e-mail. > If I have limited time in the morning (or whenever) to check my email, I can't choose which emails to download. My entire 'mail reading' time is taken up downloading large files that I don't have an interest in ( or that I might be interested in later, but not *now* ) Has this happened or are you referring to a theoretical occurrence? And please don't bring up the spat that just happened -- it was a freak occurrence that happens maybe once a year. Nothing short of a moderated dictatorship will stop that; and it's just not my style. Not to mention it kind of takes out the point of this list as a place to have conversations. > That's why I'd prefer to have fanfic authors and artists post a "teaser" message or ad to the list, instead of a big selection: viz: Is 5 KB really that big? and 'teasers' are what I post. > *********************************************************************** > A natural disaster unleashes an ancient mind-destroying horror in part 1 of my new series "Megakat Muckrakers" on www.somefanfixsite.org Well, the problem with this small a message is it tells you nothing of how good the author is or what kind of story it is. Five minutes in DJ's archive can give a good indication of just how many authors are out there and she does not have all of them -- many post on their own sites and don't have links on hers like I do. Using your example I can take it several directions just off the top of my head -- humorous, tragic, romance (interrupted or not), supernatural beyond the obvious, horror (I'm no good at writing this, but some are) and simple adventure come to mind right away and I know there are more. Under this list, assuming I even think the author is good reading, only two of them are the kind of stories I like to read and would find it worth my time to go look at. > I've drawn a spiffy pic of Razor using sine bars on a milling machine, see it at: www.someartsite.kat Ok, fine example. What about people who have nowhere to post their images? (are unwilling to post on Strike's page until they get a little confirmation it's decent) > *********************************************************************** > More often than not, I'll check on that link later, when I've got more time. But if I've been waiting a long time for a big email file to download, I may just delete it immediately out of frustration! =^^= Paul Kemner pkemner@bright.net You're a fool to be so short sighted. I'm not trying to brush you off and I do understand your point, I'm just not sure it's worth making an announcement or changing the rules until there is a problem. If it becomes one, then this is defiantly worth reconsideration (I do keep all messages for future reference). This list is just way too quiet as is to be restricting subjects at this time. Any more comments? -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Large posts on the SKML Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 07:44:11 -0400 From: Paul Kemner To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net >>My entire 'mail reading' time is taken up downloading large files that I don't have an >>interest in ( or that I might be interested in later, but not *now* ) >Has this happened or are you referring to a theoretical occurrence? Yes, it's happened- I don't remember it with the SK list, but on a couple others newbies will occasionally post photos. Usually they get stomped afterwards, but if it happens on 2 different lists on the same day it's a real killer. Watching that 'thermometer' creep along on Eudora is a real torture! >And please don't bring up the spat that just happened I don't really count that, but if someone ignores repeated warnings not to post virus crap or chain letters, I'd seriously think about dropping them from the list. And if two people get into a "yes it is" "no it isn't" "yes it is" "NO IT ISN'T" argument, I'd strongly suggest that they take it to a direct email conversation off of the list. >Well, the problem with this small a message is it tells you >nothing of how good the author is or what kind of story it is. Sometimes a few paragraphs aren't enough to tell this either- though at least you may be able to tell if the authors can string a few sentences together. The other thing that worked well on the list before was to give a short description of the story, and say "email me directly for a copy". This happened a lot when it took a long time to get stories on rat.org, and before DJ started her site. >Ok, fine example. What about people who have nowhere to post >their images? Email a description to the list, and have folks email you directly to ask for a copy of the pic. >You're a fool to be so short sighted. Yup- that's the point. If it takes 10-15 min download my mail, that ties up the computer pretty well. And it slows netscape down if I try to do any surfing while the mail is loading. I'm on at least two lists that several members read at work, and they're really sensitive to large binaries. Besides wasting time, it can bring them to the attention of the porn patrol (even if they're pictures of tropical fish or locomotives, the bosses will look for any big binary downloads in case it's porn, and they'll get a "why are you doing this at work" inquiry. I'm sure you run a risk if you've got a military address too. Some businesses are really paranoid about porn (probably don't want harassment lawsuits) and it's risky to get any binaries emailed to you. A neighbor of mine got hauled away from his desk by security and handed a resignation letter for calling a 900 number. He finally got them to call the number and they discovered that it was a software support number for a package that he had to use in his job. They had already emptied his desk (boxes by the door) and had changed all the passwords. You don't want to have that kind of mistake happen more than once! >This list is just way too quiet as is to be restricting subjects at this time. Yeah- and I'm one of the original offenders, with the Waah on Atlanta, and several off-topic but fun discussions. I didn't like the "iron fist" approach that Dana took when he was running the list. But I think the list will start losing members if 4800 dpi scanned images start getting posted routinely. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Large posts on the SKML Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 06:22:21 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: Paul Kemner Tell me if I got this wrong. The section in the rules you would like to see changed is about posting images. You've made an excellent argument, provided answers and options to all my reservations about changing the rules and stayed calm. At least about images, I agree with you now. The new rules about images will be posted shortly. In sort, they will read: Don't do it. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: More voices? Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 00:06:25 +0800 From: "Strike" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: I found a few more, too. There's a Playstation Game called Blazing Dragons- some of the voices in it are Kath Soucie (or whoever it was that played Sneezer in Tiny Toons- she also does a voice on SK), Charlie Adler (doing his "I'm-Inbred" voice among others,) and Jim Cummings... there are a few others like Terry Gilliam and Cheech Marin, but they weren't on SK! BTW, don't bother renting the game- it got boring fast, and it's not very funny. hahaha. Shame on those that bought it. ~Strike (strike@sprintmail.com) http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9294/Main.htm "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history... this century's history.... We all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century." -Dan Quayle ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: KATMIN: New Stuff Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 17:24:15 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kats ML Ooo, quiet. I think I liked having the fighting an option better than this. ----------------------- Do to a discussion with Paul Kemner over the past couple days the following modification has been made to the posting rules: Do not post images. Two acceptable methods for dealing with images on this list are posting a description and a link to the image on a site or a description with "e-mail me for it". ------------------------ We have two new members, bringing the total to 53. ------------------------ The ML Archive is now up at http://www.peak.org/~dragon/SKML_Archive.htm. It currently only covers Coollist, PEAK, Hotmail, and my relevant off-list discussions (that's Nov 97 to the present). I'm working on the Maxie files as I have time. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Stuff Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 21:02:09 EDT From: Hyena boy Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG In a message dated 98-05-11 20:24:13 EDT, you write: << Ooo, quiet. >> Geez, was it THAT BAD? maybe i better just stick to accounting! -hb ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Stuff Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:18:01 -0300 From: "Raphael" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: > << Ooo, quiet. >> > > Geez, was it THAT BAD? maybe i better just stick to accounting! > -hb Accounting? Did I hear someone say accounting? I know of accounting, it's fun! Erin aka Raphael (some of you may remember me....I'm back!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: movie theme. Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 22:22:47 EDT From: Hyena boy Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG What would make a good theme for "SWAT Kats The Motion Picture"? I'm kind of partial to "Aces High" by Iron Maiden. -hb ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: movie theme. Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 23:01:56 -0400 From: M Justin Rieley Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: The SWAT Kats Fan Club Online To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Hyena boy wrote: > What would make a good theme for "SWAT Kats The Motion Picture"? > I'm kind of partial to "Aces High" by Iron Maiden. > -hb Maybe 'Top Gun". Or how about "Hot Shots"? Or maybe have MWIII??? M Justin > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center > Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org > 850 SW 15th Street > Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: More voices? Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 00:27:15 EDT From: RikkiFeral Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG I checked over the list of voices that was posted and I don't think these were listed. If they were..sorry. :P -In Extreme Ghostbusters (Ep: "Back in the Saddle", I think), Frank Welker was the voice of Ray Stantz. (Yes, the fat one. ::snickers:: i/j) I don't know if that goes for Real Ghosbusters as well. -Charlie Adler did the voice of someone on the Extreme Ghostbusters' episode "The Unseen". -In the real adventures of JQ series, there was an episode about the Jersey Devil, and Frank Welker was the voice of the Jersey Devil. ~Rikki Feral >^,,^< http://www.geocities.com/~rikki_feral/skhomepg.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Stuff Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 21:30:00 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Hyena boy wrote: > << Ooo, quiet. >> > Geez, was it THAT BAD? maybe i better just stick to accounting! Nah, I just felt overly sarcastic at that particular moment. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: movie theme. Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 21:30:27 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Hyena boy wrote: > > What would make a good theme for "SWAT Kats The Motion Picture"? > I'm kind of partial to "Aces High" by Iron Maiden. I can't say I remember that one, but here's a few I'd love to see take the part. They all have way too much potential for sheer chaos. "Freewill" by Rush "Distant Early Warning" by Rush "Gods of War" by Def Leopard "All Fired up" by Pat Benatar "The Weapon" by Rush "Who Want's to Live Forever" by Queen "Too Long A Soldier" by Pat Benatar -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: movie theme. Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 11:12:43 -0400 From: "Rudnicki, Edward J." Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: "'swatkats@PEAK.ORG'" > >> What would make a good theme for "SWAT Kats The Motion Picture"? >> I'm kind of partial to "Aces High" by Iron Maiden. Good choice, except perhaps that it's specifically about the Battle of Britain. But "style"-wise it would fit quite nicely with the themes of the music from the show. >I can't say I remember that one, but here's a few I'd love to see >take the part. They all have way too much potential for sheer >chaos. > >"Freewill" by Rush >"Distant Early Warning" by Rush >"Gods of War" by Def Leopard >"All Fired up" by Pat Benatar >"The Weapon" by Rush >"Who Want's to Live Forever" by Queen Are you sure about this one? It was the love theme from Highlander, and (to me at least) hauntingly sad. "Gimme the Prize" or "Don't Lose Your Head" would work better for me To each their own. And to add a few of my own: "In for the Kill", Black Sabbath "Danger Zone", Black Sabbath "Wrecking Crew", Over Kill "On Your Feet", Shok Paris (remember the opening car chase in The Hidden?) "Red Sharks", Crimson Glory "The Hell Patrol", Judas Priest "One Shot at Glory", Judas Priest And there's probably a Manowar song or two that would work, given their usual martial themes. Perhaps Fear Factory as well. Of course the other "Danger Zone" (from Top Gun) would fit, but that's too obvious. Then there was a piece called "Condition Red", done specifically for a USAF documentary, which was deliberately intended to "feel" like "Danger Zone", while being clearly different. Any more? This is fun..... Ed Rudnicki ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Bullets vs. Lazers Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 01:03:34 +0800 From: "Strike" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: -----Original Message----- From: Rauhnee Ranshanka To: SWAT Kats ML Date: Thursday, May 14, 1998 2:34 PM Subject: Bullets vs. Lazers >I was just going over The Metalikats and noticed the Enforcers >were using bullets when Mac and Molly went after the Mayor, but >most of the time they use lasers (or some other energy type >weapons). Anybody have thoughts as to why? Probably production requirements- since it's supposedly a kids cartoon, they wouldn't be allowed to use bullets against living bad guys- thus the lasers most of the time. However, since the metallikats are metal, they were probably free to use as much firepower as they want. Seeing a robot get blasted with bullets is more interesting than watching them get shot with lasers, at any rate. (Especially since the lasers might just bouce off- they are pretty reflective.) I can think of another bad guy where they didn't use lasers- In The Pastmaster always Rings Twice, the Enforcers at the beginning shot the skeletons with bullets- also, when the PM called up that big megasaurus rex (or whatever it was called) they used rocket launchers on it.... ~Strike (strike@sprintmail.com) http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9294/Main.htm "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history... this century's history.... We all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century." -Dan Quayle > >-- > >----------------- >Rauhnee Ranshanka >mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net >http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html >************************************************************************* >"You've made many enemies. > Call it a lifestyle." > G'Kar to Garibaldi (Babylon 5) >************************************************************************* >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center >Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org >850 SW 15th Street >Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Feet of the Kats Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 13:09:56 -0400 From: "Rudnicki, Edward J." Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: "'swatkats@PEAK.ORG'" >Anyone ever look at the feet of the Kats. It seems Kats normally wear >shoes, but the SWAT-Kats don't. Isn't that preety wiered? When you look >at Madkat you'll notice his feet are much slimmer than the ones of the >others. We had a discussion on this some time ago, in a previous incarnation of this list, on the relative merits of unshod Kat feet (with claws exposed) versus some kind of footwear, in combat situations. I forgot the conclusions though. Ed Rudnicki ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Feet of the Kats Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 18:58:28 +0100 From: Christian Berger Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: "SWAT Kats Mailing List (peak.org)" Servus Anyone ever look at the feet of the Kats. It seems Kats normally wear shoes, but the SWAT-Kats don't. Isn't that preety wiered? When you look at Madkat you'll notice his feet are much slimmer than the ones of the others. Servus Casandro -- ____________________________________________ http://www.donau.de/privhome/berger mailto:EinStein@donau.de telnet:192.82.208.37:9999 (Fur Toonia; Casandro's Room) Furry Code 1.2 FFLw3a A- C- D- H+ M+ P- R T+++ W-- Z- Sm RLCT a- c+++l d e++ f++++ h* i+ p-- sm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Feet of the Kats Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 14:39:35 -0400 From: "Rudnicki, Edward J." Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: "'swatkats@PEAK.ORG'" >> We had a discussion on this some time ago, in a previous incarnation of >> this list, on the relative merits of unshod Kat feet (with claws >> exposed) versus some kind of footwear, in combat situations. I forgot >> the conclusions though. >> >> Ed Rudnicki > >That must have been a VERRY long time ago. I've searched all the >postings I've ever got and didn't find such a discussion. Oops!!! Now my addled brain remembers - it was part of a more generic thread on alt.fan.furry, IIRC about two years ago. Sorry for any confusion! Ed ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Feet of the Kats Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 20:31:42 +0100 From: Christian Berger Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Rudnicki, Edward J. wrote: > > >Anyone ever look at the feet of the Kats. It seems Kats > normally wear > >shoes, but the SWAT-Kats don't. Isn't that preety wiered? When > you look > >at Madkat you'll notice his feet are much slimmer than the ones > of the > >others. > > We had a discussion on this some time ago, in a previous incarnation of > this list, on the relative merits of unshod Kat feet (with claws > exposed) versus some kind of footwear, in combat situations. I forgot > the conclusions though. > > Ed Rudnicki That must have been a VERRY long time ago. I've searched all the postings I've ever got and didn't find such a discussion. Just an offer, I can search for old postings, even back to the old Maxie times. Servus Casandro -- ____________________________________________ http://www.donau.de/privhome/berger mailto:EinStein@donau.de telnet:192.82.208.37:9999 (Fur Toonia; Casandro's Room) Furry Code 1.2 FFLw3a A- C- D- H+ M+ P- R T+++ W-- Z- Sm RLCT a- c+++l d e++ f++++ h* i+ p-- sm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: movie theme. Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 18:57:06 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Rudnicki, Edward J. wrote: >>"Who Want's to Live Forever" by Queen > Are you sure about this one? It was the love theme from Highlander, and (to me at least) hauntingly sad. "Gimme the Prize" or "Don't Lose Your Head" would work better for me. To each their own. I was listening to the lyrics more than the music. It is kind of a sad tune (though I didn't know it came from Highlander). It might work better somewhere else in the movie, which is another topic. > Any more? This is fun..... I found a few more at the bottom of my CD pile. All by Europe Scream of Anger Wings of Tomorrow The Final Countdown (only if you think SK is on an Earth) Rock The Night Ninja In The Future To Come (particularly as an "origins" movie) -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "The universe is run by the complex inter-weaving of three elements; energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar to Garibaldie ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Feet of the Kats Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 19:31:24 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Rudnicki, Edward J. wrote: > on the relative merits of unshod Kat feet (with claws exposed) versus some kind of footwear, in combat situations. I forgot the conclusions though. I would think that the value would depend mostly on how well developed the claws on for the individual kat. At least from the intro sequence (among others), both Jake and Chance have a formidable set of claws on both sets of paws. Overall, most kats don't seem to have them though, which would make footwear a better choice as it gives them a bit more of a kick. With good claws, they do more damage than a boot. But then, I can't remember seeing anyone (excluding monsters) in the show use their natural weaponry except for display (and rarely even that). -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka GateKat@SWATKats.Net ************************************************************************* "You should never hand someone a gun unless you are sure where they'll point it, your mistake." Commander Sinclair to union negotiator (Babylon 5) ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Feet of the Kats Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 20:56:29 PDT From: "Kristen Sharpe" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: >But then, I can't remember seeing anyone (excluding monsters) in the show use their natural weaponry except for display (and rarely even that).< Just to throw in a thought: I always assumed they didn't because... well, fighting with one's bare teeth and claws could be considered uncivilized. Sort of a last resort for serious situations. ::pauses to think:: In "The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice" it sure looked like T-Bone meant to tackle the sabertooth bare-clawed - he certainly didn't have any other options. I guess that could go under your display comment, but he didn't know that Razor was going to stop the critter. Kristen Sharpe ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Feet of the Kats Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 23:31:03 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Kristen Sharpe wrote: > Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > >But then, I can't remember seeing anyone (excluding monsters) in the show use their natural weaponry except for display (and rarely even that). > Just to throw in a thought: I always assumed they didn't because... well, fighting with one's bare teeth and claws could be considered uncivilized. Sort of a last resort for serious situations. Most likely. The subject was combat usage, and that's uncivilized in and of itself. MegaKat City sees enough carange to probably actively discuage any more by "regulare" inhabitants. > ::pauses to think:: In "The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice" it sure looked like T-Bone meant to tackle the sabertooth bare-clawed - he certainly didn't have any other options. I guess that could go under your display comment, but he didn't know that Razor was doing to stop the critter. Well, the way he looked is was definitely display (at least to me). How serious he was about the attack I find debatable. After all, T-Bone and Razor had been fighting together for a descent chunk of time (Enforcer Time + however long it took them to rack up the eleven victories they started the show with). What are the odds Razor wouldn't have something in the TurboKat the would work? Besides, it's showing off one of T-Bone trademarks? -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "Chance favors the warrior." N'Toth (Babylon 5) ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Bullets vs. Lazers Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 23:32:05 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kats ML I was just going over The Metalikats and noticed the Enforcers were using bullets when Mac and Molly went after the Mayor, but most of the time they use lasers (or some other energy type weapons). Anybody have thoughts as to why? -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "You've made many enemies. Call it a lifestyle." G'Kar to Garibaldi (Babylon 5) ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Bullets vs. Lazers Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 08:41:55 +0200 From: Viktora David Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG > -----Původní zpráva----- > Od: Rauhnee Ranshanka [SMTP:GateKat@SWATKats.Net] > Odesláno: 14. května 1998 8:32 > Komu: SWAT Kats ML > Předmět: Bullets vs. Lazers > > I was just going over The Metalikats and noticed the Enforcers > were using bullets when Mac and Molly went after the Mayor, but > most of the time they use lasers (or some other energy type > weapons). Anybody have thoughts as to why? > > Rauhnee Ranshanka > Maybe there is a fault in the story action. Or the Enforcers used DUM DUM bullets? Dave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Feet of the Kats Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 10:50:06 -0400 From: "Rudnicki, Edward J." Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: "'swatkats@PEAK.ORG'" >> on the relative merits of unshod Kat feet (with claws exposed) versus some kind of footwear, in combat >situations. I forgot the conclusions though. > >I would think that the value would depend mostly on how well >developed the claws on for the individual kat. At least from the >intro sequence (among others), both Jake and Chance have a >formidable set of claws on both sets of paws. Overall, most kats >don't seem to have them though, which would make footwear a >better choice as it gives them a bit more of a kick. With good >claws, they do more damage than a boot. But then, I can't >remember seeing anyone (excluding monsters) in the show use their >natural weaponry except for display (and rarely even that). This is true for actual physical combat, but I was also thinking about other aspects, such as protection from terrain, and especially protection from environmental extremes in or out of a cockpit. Bare clawed feet would be good in an actual hand-to-hand (paw-to-paw?) fight, but methinks good boots would be more useful for operating rudder pedals. Ed Rudnicki ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Bullets vs. Lazers Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 13:35:02 -0400 From: "Rudnicki, Edward J." Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: "'swatkats@PEAK.ORG'" >I was just going over The Metalikats and noticed the Enforcers >were using bullets when Mac and Molly went after the Mayor, but >most of the time they use lasers (or some other energy type >weapons). Anybody have thoughts as to why? Probably a matter of the desired effects on target that the animators wanted. Bullets bouncing off armor are more visually interesting than beam weapons. Of course the "lasers" usually do different things based on what and when they hit - reflect, heat up, bore through, explode. Versatile items... :-D Ed Rudnicki ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Feet of the Kats Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 13:26:54 -0700 From: ypawtows@pop.halcyon.com (Yvonne Pawtowski) Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG CC: "'swatkats@PEAK.ORG'" At 10:50 AM 5/14/98 -0400, Rudnicki, Edward J. wrote: > >This is true for actual physical combat, but I was also thinking about >other aspects, such as protection from terrain, and especially >protection from environmental extremes in or out of a cockpit. Bare >clawed feet would be good in an actual hand-to-hand (paw-to-paw?) fight, >but methinks good boots would be more useful for operating rudder >pedals. Of course, there's the possibility that their feet are much to large for footwear that they could buy on a junkyard salary... :) I haven't watched SK in a while, so I don't remember off the top of my head... do most of the Enforcers wear shoes, or not? I know all female kats wear shoes... (who was the person that at some point decided that all female cartoon characters must look more human than males?...) -Yvonne Pawtowski __/^-^\__ *Miya!* ypawtows@pop.halcyon.com Resident Catbunny "Die-cast construction. It's a lost art." -- Optimus Primal ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Feet of the Kats Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 14:20:49 PDT From: "Kristen Sharpe" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG >I haven't watched SK in a while, so I don't remember off the top of my head... do most of the Enforcers wear shoes, or not?< I think *all* the Enforcers *always* had on their boots, didn't they? Kristen Sharpe ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Feet of the Kats Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 16:33:51 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Yvonne Pawtowski wrote: > Of course, there's the possibility that their feet are much to large for footwear that they could buy on a junkyard salary... :) Actually when their in overalls and civvies, the guys do wear shoes. Just not as the SWAT Kats. Don't ask me why, though I suspect it has a lot to do with 'display' effects, it might also have something to do with better balance (direct contact with a surface). >(who was the person that at some point decided that all female cartoon characters must look more human than males?...) Not *all* of them do, at least in SK. I remember at least one (I know this is a nitpicking minority and she had all of five seconds screen time, but they are there if you look hard enough). There is a she-kat running from the megasaurus rex in the into sequence from The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice that is extremely feline (except for her high heals). -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "You're a vicious man. I'm head of security, it's in the job description." - Ivanova & Garibaldi (Babylon 5) ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Feet of the Kats Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 16:34:25 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Rudnicki, Edward J. wrote: > Bare clawed feet would be good in an actual hand-to-hand (paw-to-paw?) fight, but methinks good boots would be more useful for operating rudder pedals. Probably. I don't think anyone can say SK or any other show was created using a very logical base. Though SK probably rates up there as one of the better done ones, for how short it was (or maybe that is why, long productions lead to contradictions and bad ideas). -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "Outside of numerous bruises and abrasions, and a blood level that's close to 100% proof, looks like you're gonna be all right." Doctor to Garibaldi (Babylon 5) ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Feet of the Kats Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 16:34:44 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Kristen Sharpe wrote: > > >I haven't watched SK in a while, so I don't remember off the top of my head... do most of the Enforcers wear shoes, or not?< > > I think *all* the Enforcers *always* had on their boots, didn't they? I certainly can't remember any occasion they all didn't, including when Jake and Chance were in uniform. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "The universe hates me." G'Kar (Babylon 5) ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Megakat or Megacat? Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 16:34:56 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kats ML Just a side note. At least in The Giant Bacteria, the sign reads Megacat City Salvage Yard. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "One person's lunatic is a another person's seeker." ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Megakat or Megacat? Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 19:40:35 EDT From: BastKatkin Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG In a message dated 98-05-14 19:33:58 EDT, you write: << Just a side note. At least in The Giant Bacteria, the sign reads Megacat City Salvage Yard. >> I heard this once in a fanfic, i forgot where.. but maybe it's to put them at the top of the phone book list before all other yards? Heh. Bastet >^_^< ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Megakat or Megacat? Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 20:50:46 -0400 From: M Justin Rieley Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: The SWAT Kats Fan Club Online To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > Just a side note. At least in The Giant Bacteria, the sign reads > Megacat City Salvage Yard. > > -- Also, while the Bacteria walks toward the city, there is a sign, which says "MegaKat City, 10 miles" or something like that, I think.Maybe...Could be.... M Justin Rieley ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Megakat or Megacat? Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 21:00:48 -0400 From: M Justin Rieley Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: The SWAT Kats Fan Club Online To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > Just a side note. At least in The Giant Bacteria, the sign reads > Megacat City Salvage Yard. By golly! The yard sign does say that! A sign that you see right after Viper and the Bacteria walk into the sewer culvert says "MegaKat City". I guess it was a mishap when Murray ordered the sign, the artist who did that sequence was an idiot, or they had the sign changed to get the upper listings. There is this place about a 1/2 hour from me, the buisness is called 'Mega Cats' as in Caterpillar machinery. M Justin Rieley ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: it's megaKAT and FEET Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 22:03:47 EDT From: Hyena boy Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG first, if you see these two guys wearing shoes, you can bet it's a damn uncomfortable disguise. These kats are 100% combat! These tremendous clawed feet are considered weaponry. Putting shoes on these puppies is like putting a muzzle on...well "muzzle" with apologies to Dr. Shepard.... oh, by the way it's MEGAKAT CITY. And the planet: "MegaKat Prime". As far as i know...... -hb ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: it's megaKAT and FEET Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 20:34:48 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Hyena boy wrote: > And the planet: "MegaKat Prime". As far as i know...... Any idea where that tidbit came from? -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: it's megaKAT and FEET Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 20:40:53 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Hyena boy wrote: > oh, by the way it's MEGAKAT CITY. The Salvage Yard or the City itself? -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Feet of the Kats Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 00:59:52 -0700 From: ypawtows@pop.halcyon.com (Yvonne Pawtowski) Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG CC: swatkats@PEAK.ORG At 02:20 PM 5/14/98 PDT, Kristen Sharpe wrote: >>I haven't watched SK in a while, so I don't remember off the top of my >head... do most of the Enforcers wear shoes, or not?< > >I think *all* the Enforcers *always* had on their boots, didn't they? Hmm... here's another question... the episode showing the flashback to when Jake and Chance were enforcers... were they wearing boots? -Yvonne Pawtowski __/^-^\__ *Miya!* ypawtows@pop.halcyon.com Resident Catbunny "Die-cast construction. It's a lost art." -- Optimus Primal ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Feet of the Kats Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 14:32:44 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Yvonne Pawtowski wrote: > Hmm... here's another question... the episode showing the flashback to when Jake and Chance were enforcers... were they wearing boots? Yes. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Dreamwalk: Old Days (pt 02) Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 14:39:28 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kat ML Ann Gora: "So what do you dream of these days?" Lightning: "You'll be meeting her soon, both of them. Sandran, the TurboKat 14, is almost mission ready." Ann Gora: "Both?" Lightning: "I'm expecting, in five months." Ann Gora: "Who is the father?" Lightning: (smiles) "That's my secret. I'm not telling him either." Excerpt from the July 7, 2009 interview with Miki Furlson; Lightning of the SWAT Kats. Anyone want to play Ann? -- (Series SWAT Kitten, eventually, maybe) _,'| .-''``-...___..--'; ----------------- /, \'. _..-' , ,--...--''' < \ .`--''' ` /| Rauhnee Ranshanka `-,;' ; ; ; GateKat@SWATKats.Net __...--'' __...--_..' .;.' (,__....----''' (,..--'' http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: it's megaKAT and FEET Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 19:31:37 PDT From: "Vikki Ong" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG >Hyena boy wrote: >> oh, by the way it's MEGAKAT CITY. > >The Salvage Yard or the City itself? > >-- > >----------------- >Rauhnee Ranshanka ------------------ The City itself is called Megakat City. The Salvage yard is Megakat Salvage yard. (Surprisingly enough) If anyone has any objections....? ~Vikki .C ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: it's megaKAT and FEET Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 19:44:37 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Vikki Ong wrote: > The City itself is called Megakat City. The Salvage yard is Megakat Salvage yard. (Surprisingly enough) If anyone has any objections....? So the Salvage Yard sign is wrong? -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." 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ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Lament to a Katfight Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 05:23:07 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kats ML By day I dream of Kats and Black Jets By night I write their stories I have found the strength to stand alone if I must But what point would that be To love something with mind and heart And have no one with which to share it For fear of what did happen I never raised my true voice Till I knew I could survive it But with the fur settled And the tempers cooled In understanding I find something to morn in victory If this had happened a year ago or even a scarce six months I would a curled up in shame and fear And never raised that voice again I look at the names of those who listen I look at the names of those who speak And what I see grieves me Not so much in that so many are silent For I was for such for a long time But for those that are silent out of fear I wonder how many saw the rejection of my offering And refuse to speak now because of it Their fears reinforced beyond any assurances This world is not a friendly place That I understand But in such a small gathering from that world Drawn together by a single thread I had a hope, that lasted barely a moment That there was room to show every way to love them here I know now that I was wrong And I morn my lost innocence Now I grieve for my mistake But not for myself I grieve for those that are as I was Scarcely six months ago That fear a similar rejection So they harbor their love inside And speak never a word of it For such silence is a thing of shame In such a small community To have anyone ostracized for showing the love That all present say they feel -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* Life is eternal; and death is only a horizon, and a horizon is nothing save the limit of our sight Rossiter Worthington Raymond ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Feet of the Kats Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 10:42:25 -0400 From: "Rudnicki, Edward J." Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: "'swatkats@PEAK.ORG'" >Rudnicki, Edward J. wrote: >> Bare clawed feet would be good in an actual hand-to-hand (paw-to-paw?) fight, but methinks good >boots would be more useful for operating rudder pedals. > >Probably. I don't think anyone can say SK or any other show was >created using a very logical base. Though SK probably rates up >there as one of the better done ones, for how short it was (or >maybe that is why, long productions lead to contradictions and >bad ideas). But it's precisely because the show is this good, and this consistent, that we can have these discussions. Most of the "action" stuff that's on is so inconsistent as to be not even worth watching, let alone discussing. And that's not even mentioning the cheesy animation that is the rule. Ed R. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: it's megaKAT and FEET Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:12:51 -0400 From: "Rudnicki, Edward J." Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: "'swatkats@PEAK.ORG'" >Vikki Ong wrote: >> The City itself is called Megakat City. The Salvage yard is Megakat Salvage yard. (Surprisingly >enough) If anyone has any objections....? > >So the Salvage Yard sign is wrong? Animation error? Happens often enough, particularly where the work is done overseas, by individuals for whom English is not their first language. Ed ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Feet of the Kats Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:55:23 -0400 From: "Rudnicki, Edward J." Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: "'swatkats@PEAK.ORG'" >>This is true for actual physical combat, but I was also thinking about >>other aspects, such as protection from terrain, and especially >>protection from environmental extremes in or out of a cockpit. Bare >>clawed feet would be good in an actual hand-to-hand (paw-to-paw?) fight, >>but methinks good boots would be more useful for operating rudder >>pedals. > >Of course, there's the possibility that their feet are much to large for >footwear that they could buy on a junkyard salary... :) Oh, I know that feeling..... [says Ed, looking down at his 14EEEs :] >I haven't watched SK in a while, so I don't remember off the top of my >head... do most of the Enforcers wear shoes, or not? I know all female >kats wear shoes... Yep, the Enforcers do wear boots. > (who was the person that at some point decided that all female cartoon > characters must look more human than males?...) The same one who noticed that drooling fanboys outnumbered drooling fangirls by an order of magnitude or two. And it works for human/humanoid 'toons as well, where males are often more distorted/caricatured than females. Ed R. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Feet of the Kats Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:16:34 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Rudnicki, Edward J. wrote: > > The same one who noticed that drooling fanboys outnumbered drooling fangirls by an order of magnitude or two. And it works for human/humanoid 'toons as well, where males are often more distorted/caricatured than females. Off topic and I don't care 'cause the list is sooo quite. You obviously haven't dropped by The Sentinel Fandom lately. The Male/Female ratio over there is conservatively estimated at about 55 to one (a census of sorts was done over the last couple weeks, it was quite interesting, if in the background). -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Feet of the Kats Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:18:48 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > The Male/Female ratio over there is conservatively estimated at about 55 to one I got that backwards, it 1 male to 55 females. And they're a pilot chatty group too! -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Feet of the Kats Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:32:00 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > And they're a pilot chatty group too! Polite and I have got to stop trying to make sense at 3 PM, it's just too bloody soon after I wake up. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Favorite Character? Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 18:40:54 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kats ML Who's your favorite SK character? (and maybe a little of why.) -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Favorite Character? Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 21:55:31 EDT From: Felina 761 Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG << Who's your favorite SK character? (and maybe a little of why.) >> I have two. #1: Razor/Jake Clawson. Why: First of all, he's cute. He's smart and dedicated. And personally, I think he looks like David Duchovny.. but that's my opinion. #2: Who else, but Felina. Why: Gee.. this is so hard.. maybe because she's just like my IRL self (though I don't look like her, and I am a bit shy) She likes weapons, so do I. And she is the best fighter on the Swat Kats because she can actually save herself. Ever notice this about Callie and the others? ~Felina Cerviche~ "You can't fight back. Cause your Amish. I mock you with my ice cream come Amish guy!" -Xander ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Favorite Character? Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 22:21:56 EDT From: Hyena boy Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Easy. Chance (T-Bone) Furlong. LOVE the guy. he makes up for the entire trainload of HB's pussy kats. From Hong Kong Phooey's "Spot" to "that cat who'll stay out for the night" right on down to WB's curiously downtrodden "Sylvester" and the Simpsons' "itchy", or is it "scratchy'? They all look alike to me...... This T-Bone fella is awesome. Sensitive, unpredictable, and a pretty darn buff kitty (IMHO) to boot. T-Bone IS the Kat! well... ya ASKED. hb ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Favorite Character? Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 02:30:11 +0000 (US/Eastern) From: Oh No! Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: SWAT Kats ML On Wed, 20 May 1998, Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > Who's your favorite SK character? > (and maybe a little of why.) Callie Briggs Shes hot, but she usually doesn't act like she knows it. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: FAVKAT Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 22:32:05 EDT From: Hyena boy To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net Good one, Rauhnee! nothing like stirring up a buncha sleeping kittens! I predict this to be a VERY productive string! I think the list is doing great. thanks again for not only keeping the list alive, but for provoking some life back into it! yours in katkind, -hb (chuck) ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Favorite Character? Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 23:57:20 -0400 From: Paul Kemner Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG >Who's your favorite SK character? >(and maybe a little of why.) Love those SK scientists- just about all of them! They're a pretty varied lot in age, personality type, and outlook. Here's a couple, I'll add more later- Hackle- Wow- he's been paid to design weapons for so long that *anything* he makes gets the same treatment. (You'd get in a design rut if you'd done it for that long, too.) Would you really need your maid or chauffeur to be able to take small (or large !) arms fire, and have detachable heads that can scurry to safety? I get the feeling that if he needs to open a tin of tuna, he reaches for a nuke-pumped particle beam! Greenbox ? He's more of an applied technologist like Jake, but he's really publicity-hungry. I guess you need to get your funding from somewhere, and Liter doesn't have a Pumadyne contract. So it's whiz-bang all the way! Gem-grabbing guns, universal repair bots, anything flashy that he can sell the rights to. =^^= ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Stealth Core Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 00:59:51 -0700 From: High Lord Kyrie Menyth Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kats ML Has anyone ever thought about how the TurboKat's Stealth Core works? He's my take on what it is. The Stealth Core is nothing more than a highly compact ECM (Electronic Counter-Measures) suite, the kind you mount on a B-52. That bird can motor along fly at 300 knots at 300 ft, and not cause a radar spike. With that in mind, this one of the many reasons why Commander Feral gets so angry at the SWAT Kats (like he needs another one): Theory One: The ECM blanks out the entire Enforcer radar network. That'll make Ulysses look like he hasn't hit the litter box in a month. With his radar off-line, you can't even track the bad guys, which might be why they get away so easily. Theory Two: If the SK is a little better, then their ECM only blanks out an area around the jet, making is almost impossible to follow. You can't follow them, you can't find them, and you don't know where they are coming from next. Just the kind of thing to drive an anal retentive Commander out of his mind. I personally think it's one, but my knowledge of ECM is somewhat vague. I only know that it works from my many flight sims and a few paragraphs from a book called "Red Flag" (2nd edition). Any comment or corrections are very welcome. High Lord Kyrie Menyth The application of accurate force in a precise manner is more powerful than any brute action. - Lord Kyrie Menyth ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Favorite Character? Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 01:06:12 -0700 From: ypawtows@pop.halcyon.com (Yvonne Pawtowski) Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG CC: SWAT Kats ML At 06:40 PM 5/20/98 -0700, Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: >Who's your favorite SK character? >(and maybe a little of why.) Aaargh.. I've forgotten her name. The kat who took over the air in her flying ship... the one T-Bone nearly fell in love with. I would have *loved* to see more of her story. It just seemed so... interesting somehow. -Yvonne Pawtowski __/^-^\__ *Miya!* ypawtows@pop.halcyon.com Resident Catbunny "Die-cast construction. It's a lost art." -- Optimus Primal ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Favorite Character? Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 01:49:58 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Yvonne Pawtowski wrote: > Aaargh.. I've forgotten her name. > The kat who took over the air in her flying ship... the one T-Bone nearly fell in love with. That would be Turmoil. I'm pretty sure a writer ot two out there has your wish filled out, somewhere. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Favorite Character? Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 11:55:43 EDT From: LdyMave sk Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Ooooo, tough question, because when it comes to cartoon characters I hate playing favorites. I guess it wouldn't hurt to say who I'm most impressed with though. In the she-kat catagory it's Felina hands (or paws) down. She tough and resilient but she also has a passion for justice. She defies stereotypes and never takes "no" for an answer. She's strong and confident and in my opinion a good role modle for younger she-kats out there. The most impressive male kat ( for me anyway) is Jake Clawson. That's partially because if he were real I'd be after him . Besides that, he can be shy or fearsome depending on whether he's at the garage or out with T-Bone and the jet. He's also very intelligent and can fix things without making them go boom......which is a talent I never mastered. :::looks around to make sure no one is watching:::: And he's cute too! shhh! I didn't say that ;) . Lady Maverick ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Favorite Character? Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 17:00:41 -0400 From: M Justin Rieley Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: The SWAT Kats Fan Club Online To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > Who's your favorite SK character? > (and maybe a little of why.) > > -- > > ----------------- > Rauhnee Ranshanka > mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net > http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html > ************************************************************************* > "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military > leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary > accomplishments is foreknowledge." > Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. > ************************************************************************* > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center > Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org > 850 SW 15th Street > Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 Paws down, it's gotta be T-Bone. Big, strong, the pilotly type. I love jets. As you all know that. On the 29th, I hit the Navy's F/A-18 Hornet simulators for one-on-one dog fighting with my friend, who happens to be a Lieutenant. Maybe I can outpilot him, which I think I could. Maybe I should pull off a few of T-Bone's maneuvers. Maybe... M Justin Rieley ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Pictures Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 10:55:53 +0200 From: Viktora David Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: SK mail list Hello kats there, I need pictures of the MetalliKats and prof. Hackle. Send me please an address where I can grab the pics from or the pics themselves. But remember then - I have only 1 MB in my mailbox! Thanks :-) Dave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Stealth Core Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 07:20:31 -0400 From: Paul Kemner Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG >Theory One: >The ECM blanks out the entire Enforcer radar network. That seems a bit unlikely- I'd think if that was happening, MAJOR recources would be allocated to stopping it right away. If the ECM only hides the Turbokat, it would be much harder to justify the expense and diversion of resources. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Pictures Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 18:05:41 +0100 From: Christian Berger Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Viktora David wrote: > > Hello kats there, > > I need pictures of the MetalliKats and prof. Hackle. Send me please an > address where I can grab the pics from or the pics themselves. But > remember then - I have only 1 MB in my mailbox! Thanks :-) > > Dave I've put some images on the swatfiles mailbox at hotmail mailto:swatfiles@hotmail.com Username: swatfiles Password: swatkats You may use that mailbox freely.. (except for deleting messages) Servus Casandro ____________________________________________ http://www.donau.de/privhome/berger mailto:EinStein@donau.de telnet:192.82.208.37:9999 (Fur Toonia; Casandro's Room) Furry Code 1.2 FFLw3a A- C- D- H+ M+ P- R T+++ W-- Z- Sm RLCT a- c+++l d e++ f++++ h* i+ p-- sm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 22:16:58 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kats ML We have two new members, brining our total up to 52. The Archive has been updated for new members. http://www.peak.org/~dragon/SKML_Archive.htm +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ok, this is a little personal and a lot katmin related. Deep breath. I'm having a really, really bad week, and someone (I think Sigma 9), mentioned the list should be for meeting other katfans. Cool with me. So take two minutes and tell everybody who you are (especially those of you in lurkdom -- at least give me a name to go with that address I never hear from, please). Make your katmin feel cared for by giving her a name and geology lesson about the list membership. Just fill in the blanks. If I get 52 responses to this from 52 addresses, I'm going to faint with joy. What is your name (real or log name)? How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Are you an artist or writer? Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? Anything else you want to mention? -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "Don't. Fuck. With. The. Guide." Merry Lynne ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Favorite Character? Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 22:17:18 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG LdyMave sk wrote: > :::looks around to make sure no one is watching:::: And he's cute too! shhh! I didn't say that ;) . I will! And if he were here I'd be giving you a hell of a fight over courting rites :) -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Favorite Character? Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 22:19:55 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > > Who's your favorite SK character? > (and maybe a little of why.) I should get in my own act shouldn't I? Jake. Not doubts, no arguing. I LOVE that kat. Calms down enough to type again. He's beautiful, smart, a little too talented for his own good, skilled, thoughtful, caring, loyal, did I mention gorgeous?, and I better stop before I break my own for general audiences rule. Goes back to growling hateful things about who took a couple other guys out of her life way too soon. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 08:27:19 +0200 From: Simba III To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net >What is your name (real or log name)? Danny "Simba III" Palic > >How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 19 > >Where do you live (country and territory is good)? The Netherlands, Europe > >Are you an artist or writer? Artist > >Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? Had some screengrabs online, didnt have the time yet to setup a real page. > >Anything else you want to mention? I look like a lurker now, but right at this moment I dont got anything usefull to mention, and I dont want to send off topics. Adios, -----Simba "Pegla" III Van Trotslanden------- TLK Code 1.1: TLK++++ A+++ !C Mt+ DLK++++ L+ Pa++++ W++ S+ Tcts++++ RLA/RLCT RLMC$ A18 Cdnw+++ e+++ h# Iwt++++ p# Sm# ----------------------------------------------------- http://www.cytag.nl/homes/simba ICQ: 3193629 FurrySearch: for Furries only http://furry.ml.org "Back in scouting we used to have some cubs and we made them blow" - Sir Teddy in "You rang M'lord" ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: SWAT cat related art page Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 08:32:03 +0200 From: Simba III Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Hyas, I maintain a search engine, kinda like AltaVista but 100% furry related and some days ago somebody added his URL and some artwork he made seems to be SWAT Cats related, take a looksie at: http://www.furnation.com/rastlin/homepage.html And if you are browsing along....ahem....you can visit the FurrySearch at http://furry.ml.org (will be mayorly gfx updated soon) Adios, Simba III, the quiet lion (for now) -----Simba "Pegla" III Van Trotslanden------- TLK Code 1.1: TLK++++ A+++ !C Mt+ DLK++++ L+ Pa++++ W++ S+ Tcts++++ RLA/RLCT RLMC$ A18 Cdnw+++ e+++ h# Iwt++++ p# Sm# ----------------------------------------------------- http://www.cytag.nl/homes/simba ICQ: 3193629 FurrySearch: for Furries only http://furry.ml.org "Back in scouting we used to have some cubs and we made them blow" - Sir Teddy in "You rang M'lord" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 00:24:15 -0700 From: ypawtows@pop.halcyon.com (Yvonne Pawtowski) Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG CC: SWAT Kats ML At 10:16 PM 5/22/98 -0700, Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > >What is your name (real or log name)? full name: Yvonne Bennett Pawtowski (for about 1-1/2 years, now) :) nickname: Catbunny (a bit of a story behind the nick, but it has nothing to do with SWAT Kats... it's an anime thing) >How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 24 >Where do you live (country and territory is good)? USA, Washington state, somewhere near Seattle >Are you an artist or writer? I used to write on the Superguy mailing list. Has nothing to do with Kats, mind you, but interesting fiction none the less. if you're interested, check out http://www.eyrie.org/superguy/ >Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? Nope. I don't have any webpage for that matter. >Anything else you want to mention? Not at this time.. *shrug* -Yvonne Pawtowski __/^-^\__ *Miya!* ypawtows@pop.halcyon.com Resident Catbunny "Die-cast construction. It's a lost art." -- Optimus Primal ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 08:29:52 +0100 From: Christian Berger Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: "SWAT Kats Mailing List (peak.org)" Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > Just fill in the blanks. If I get 52 responses to this from 52 > addresses, I'm going to faint with joy. > > What is your name (real or log name)? Casandro > How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 17 years > Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Cham (spoken like calm), Bavaria, Germany > Are you an artist or writer? Well, I can read and write, but I've never written any stories or something for public. MY drawings became recogniceable a few weeks ago. > Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? http://www.donau.de/privhome/berger/casandro/swati.htm (not much by now) > Anything else you want to mention? I'm (probably) the only winged lion on this list. Servus Casandro -- ____________________________________________ http://www.donau.de/privhome/berger mailto:EinStein@donau.de telnet:192.82.208.37:9999 (Fur Toonia; Casandro's Room) Furry Code 1.2 FFLw3a A- C- D- H+ M+ P- R T+++ W-- Z- Sm RLCT a- c+++l d e++ f++++ h* i+ p-- sm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: KATMIN: New Member Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 00:37:36 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kats ML Katfan 53 just signed up. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 00:38:01 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Getting into my own act again. Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > What is your name? Rauhnee Ranshanka > How old are you? 24 with an April B-Day. > Where do you live)? Oregon, USA > Are you an artist or writer? Writer, struggling to be an artist > Do you have an SK Webpage? Yes. http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html My FanFic, 2 SK Art Galleries, The SKML's Archives, ML Info. Updates most Fridays or Saturdays. Link to your pages if you want. > Anything else you want to mention? Like anybody shouldn't know by now, but I'm Katmin on this list. I'm female, married, very bummed right now for The Sentinel and His Guide, and I'd really like to give Razor the targeting info for UPN HQ. I know he'd do it if just the execs are in there (they are *not* innocents). Oh, and I have a particular attraction to the vision of Razor Carlos Padilla drew (when he faced off against a Predator). He's Hot. {Snipped a bunch of very not g-rated comments.} Sorry, been reading Sentinel slash most of the night. Makes me feel better, but it does kind of put a twist on my thought process. Anybody but me write SK slash? I'd love to read some 'bout now that isn't mine, wouldn't mind giving it a home page either. Random thoughts from the beginning of a lonely weekend, but they are meant sincerely. Again goes back to growling hateful things about who took a couple other guys out of her life way too soon. Plotting now. Looks up Grins Begins chuckling evilly Unsheathes claws Examines them Grins again, broader "I'm going hunting, love. Don't wait up." -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "You'll fit right in, we have the heir to the throne of Romania and an inter-planetary walker." Simon, The Sentinel "Don't. Fuck. With. The. Guide." Merry Lynne 'It's about friendship and love. Be afraid, very afraid.' Clan Denial Motto (one of them at least) ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 06:13:00 EDT From: RikkiFeral Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG In a message dated 98-05-23 01:15:39 EDT, you write: << What is your name (real or log name)?>> My real name is classified info. So just be satisified to call me Rikki Feral. ;p << How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)?>> 22 <> Pennsylvania << Are you an artist or writer?>> I like to draw and write, and I'm an ex-animation student. But that says nothing about being good at it.. <> Yep! http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/5909/skhomepg.html << Anything else you want to mention? >> SHUSHA! ::laughs:: J/k And don't ask, it's an i/j. ;) Umm.. too tired to think.. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 10:48:45 +0000 (US/Eastern) From: Oh No! Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: SWAT Kats ML > Make your > katmin feel cared for by giving her a name and geology lesson > about the list membership. Rick pats Rauhnee on the head and says, "We care about you". OUCH! Rick pulls arm back only to find a bloody stub instead. > What is your name (real or log name)? Richard > How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 42 YUCK! > Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Ohio ZZZzzzzzz....... > Are you an artist or writer? Not according to my friends. > Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? Nope > Anything else you want to mention? Engineer ( What do you meen it doesn't work!? ) Former anime subtitler. ( Ah fandom.... Thupt! ) Big furry fan. ( Furvert? Me? Oh.... OK ) Sane ( Both of my psyciatrists say so ) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 12:03:34 +0100 From: "Keith Nickeas" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: What is your name (real or log name)? Real name - Keith Nickeas Nickname - Nikata How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 17 Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Nottingham, United Kingdom Are you an artist or writer? Both. I ahev written various fanfics, most on the SK archive. As to pictures, I can't draw, but have edited a few, which can be found on Strike's page. Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? No. Anything else you want to mention? Apart from being mad, nothing really. Oh, I'm a big fan of Biker Mice From Mars and Star Trek. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 07:27:03 -0400 From: Paul Kemner Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG >What is your name (real or log name)? Paul Kemner >How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 44 >Where do you live (country and territory is good)? USA- Ohio >Are you an artist or writer? Starting to work at drawing. Wrote Tortie Papers, and am idly thinking of continuing that storyline. >Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? nope >Anything else you want to mention? Yes. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 05:21:06 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Keith Nickeas wrote: > Apart from being mad, nothing really. What are you mad about? -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 05:24:03 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Oh No! wrote: > > > Make your katmin feel cared for by giving her a name and geology lesson about the list membership. > > Rick pats Rauhnee on the head and says, "We care about you". > OUCH! > Rick pulls arm back only to find a bloody stub instead. Purrrrrrrrrr. I wouldn't do that ... unless, of course you want me to (please! please!). I do bite if requested. I do so love violence, there's no adrenaline kick quite like it. 'Cept maybe getting Jake to bed. I've got to stop thinking like this. *Why?* Uh... *Isn't it fun?* Mmmmm, yes. But I have a husband. *He's not here right now.* ..... This is a G list. Shut up till I get off. *I won't say it.* Gurrr. > Sane ( Both of my psyciatrists say so ) And you like this? I'm deep in fantasy land at this time and loving most of it. It much nicer than out there. He's all mine in here. I have got to get that part of my brain calmed down. Back to the slash. Licks chops expectantly. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 13:44:22 +0100 From: "Keith Nickeas" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: Mad, as in completely off my rocker, insanity rules, one sandwich short of a picnic, etc etc ---------- > From: Rauhnee Ranshanka > To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG > Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request > Date: Saturday, May 23, 1998 1:21 PM > > Keith Nickeas wrote: > > Apart from being mad, nothing really. > > What are you mad about? > > -- > > ----------------- > Rauhnee Ranshanka > mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net > http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html > ************************************************************************* > "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military > leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary > accomplishments is foreknowledge." > Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. > ************************************************************************* > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center > Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org > 850 SW 15th Street > Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 09:13:49 EDT From: Felina 761 Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG What is your name (real or log name)? My real name is Hillary, but if you call me that, I'll have to kill you. I'd prefer Felina or 'Lina. How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 16 and darn proud of it. Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Easton PA, also called.. Hellmouth, weirdsville and hickstown. Are you an artist or writer? Both. Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? Yepskie doodles. http://www.angelfire.com/pa/FelinaCerviche/index.html The forever under construction cause I'm lazy webpage. ::grin:: Anything else you want to mention? Don't watch Puppet Master before going to bed. It'll keep you up all night, and you'll be hyper in the morning. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 06:13:56 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Keith Nickeas wrote: > > Mad, as in completely off my rocker, insanity rules, one sandwich short of a picnic, etc etc Welcome to The MegaKat Nexus Psych Ward. SKML Wing. Good to have the company as long as you don't want to take Jake from me. I will try to kill you for that and I don't really want to go back to solitary anytime soon. I'm going to stop trying to not say things like that now. He's stuck, I like him there. It's not worth the effort to get him out. *Stuck where?* You're sick. *I asked a perfectly normal question. You're the disturbed one if you think of a sick answer immediately.* Gurrrr. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 10:29:26 -0300 From: "Raphael" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: "SWAT Kats ML" > What is your name (real or log name)? Erin, but I can often be found under then names Raphael or Emerald Isle (yes, I'm a Ninja Turtles fan ) > How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? Heh...oooh, ancient. 34 and counting. Still trying to work out which age I 'act'. ("You're only as old as you think you are, if you think at all. If you act as old as you think you are, you'll feel 10 feet tall" - Papa Smurf) > Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada > > Are you an artist or writer? Done SOME drawings, not many, and have completed a grand total of ONE (taa dah!) fanfic "Visit to a Weird Dimension", which is, suprisingly enough, a TMNT/SK crossover. > Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? Nyitsky. I am currently ANY Webpageless. > Anything else you want to mention? Nah... Erin ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 14:35:57 +0100 From: "Keith Nickeas" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: ---------- > From: Rauhnee Ranshanka > To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG > Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request > Date: Saturday, May 23, 1998 2:13 PM > > Keith Nickeas wrote: > > > > Mad, as in completely off my rocker, insanity rules, one sandwich short of a picnic, etc etc > > Welcome to The MegaKat Nexus Psych Ward. SKML Wing. Good to > have the company as long as you don't want to take Jake from me. > I will try to kill you for that and I don't really want to go > back to solitary anytime soon. > > I'm going to stop trying to not say things like that now. > He's stuck, I like him there. > It's not worth the effort to get him out. > > *Stuck where?* > > You're sick. > > *I asked a perfectly normal question. You're the disturbed one > if you think of a sick answer immediately.* > > Gurrrr. Don't worry, I won't. As long as you vote for me in the next Megakat City election.... wait, wrong persona. As long as you don't get on the wrong side of my ship.... wait, he's dead. Oh heck, nevermind. You keep Jake, I have my chocolate covered horse-radish! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 06:38:03 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Yvonne Pawtowski wrote: > nickname: Catbunny (a bit of a story behind the nick, but it has nothing to do with SWAT Kats... it's an anime thing) Rauhnee perks up her ears at anime. What's the story? It may not be SK, but it is about you. Same diff around here. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 15:02:41 +0100 From: "Keith Nickeas" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: Hey there, I'm a TMNT fan as well! ---------- > From: Raphael > To: SWAT Kats ML > Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request > Date: Saturday, May 23, 1998 2:29 PM > > > What is your name (real or log name)? > > Erin, but I can often be found under then names Raphael or Emerald Isle > (yes, I'm a Ninja Turtles fan ) > > > How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? > > Heh...oooh, ancient. 34 and counting. Still trying to work out which age > I 'act'. ("You're only as old as you think you are, if you think at all. > If you act as old as you think you are, you'll feel 10 feet tall" - Papa > Smurf) > > > Where do you live (country and territory is good)? > > Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, Canada > > > > Are you an artist or writer? > > Done SOME drawings, not many, and have completed a grand total of ONE (taa > dah!) fanfic "Visit to a Weird Dimension", which is, suprisingly enough, a > TMNT/SK crossover. > > > Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? > > Nyitsky. I am currently ANY Webpageless. > > > Anything else you want to mention? > > Nah... > > Erin > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center > Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org > 850 SW 15th Street > Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 11:03:55 EDT From: AkaneKitty Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG All right. I'll take a shot at this: What is your name (real or log name)? My real name is Kim R. My log name is AkaneKitty or Kittyboo (The first being a combo of Akane Tendo from Ranma 1/2 and my part of my nickname. Kittyboo is my nickname). How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? A 16 year-old junior in high school. Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Dallas Texas USA Are you an artist or writer? I consider myself a writer and have been published before. When it comes to Fanfics, well, let's just say I have a few ideas. (Now to write them...) Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? No but considering. Anything else you want to mention? I'm the List Admin and Moderator of the Akane Tendo Mailing List. It's a small but lively group, an I'm in process of making a page for it. Ja ne, AkaneKitty ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 08:05:35 -0700 From: High Lord Kyrie Menyth Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG > Yvonne Pawtowski wrote: > nickname: Catbunny (a bit of a story behind the nick, but it has nothing to do with SWAT Kats... it's an anime thing) I think the word for the nickname would be 'cabbit',cat/rabbit (anything goes, as far as I'm concerned). I've got two of them staring at me over behind the monitor. A cute Ryo-Ohki and a smaller Ken-Ohki stuff doll. Drop me a personal line if you want to talk about anime Yvonne-chan. I'm interested in your story behind the nickname. ------------------------------------- Anime? Good stuff. - Lord Kyrie Menyth ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 08:08:03 -0700 From: High Lord Kyrie Menyth Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG > What is your name (real or log name)? High Lord Kyrie Menyth (Not to confuse me with my main character, Lord Kyrie). Real name is ... I'll keep that close to my heart for now. > > How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 26, 27 in September (feels like 23 to me) > > Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Oregon, USA > Are you an artist or writer? Rusty as a musical artist, but that's changed since Wed (see below). As a writer, got the ideals, have the right mood, but really short on the experience and motivation. As for the drawing art type, struggling for that also. > Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? Not yet (heh). > Anything else you want to mention? In mourning from watching Tenchi Muyo Manatsu no Eve, in particular Mayuka. I'll not say anymore about the story, I might spoil it for you. If you haven't seen it yet, it's the best since OVA 1-6, including TV episodes and Tenchi Muyo in Love. But the pain is still there, it still hurts... Well, that's a little teary eyed emotion folks. Now after I wipe away the tears... Better. I've listened to the Soundtrack CD about 15 time so far, and have no intention to stop. I've been thinking that by translating the BGM (Back Ground Music) to MIDI. Maybe help the pain lessen. After that, I'll think of doing the SK intro song as a MIDI file. This is the main reason why I'm going back into music, after a leave of seven years. And I need a new addiction. Just went cold turkey from my previous one, COMPUTER GAMES (yea yea play play). Oh, yeah, I'm a certified anime/manga otaku. Got the tag on my collar to prove it too (did I say I was married? oops.) Enough of this, my shields are already weak as it is, don't want to break down and cry again. --------------------------------------------------- Dead you say? As Vincent would say “Death shall hold no dominion”. Death is temporary, once you know the right spells. -Lord Kyrie Menyth ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 17:08:38 +0200 From: Danny Van Leeuwen Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Hyas, Well, I thought I had to send this mail to the moderator, but due to the mass-antroduction on the list, I will antroduce myself as well: - What is your name (real or log name)? Danny Palic AKA Simba III (why 3? IRC story :)) - How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 19 winters - Where do you live (country and territory is good)? The Netherlands, Europe - Are you an artist or writer? Artist, but most of my art isnt SK related....yet :) - Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? Nope, sometimes put screengrabs online, but thats all - Anything else you want to mention? Starcraft rulez :) Simba III @ work Met een vriendelijke groet Danny Van Leeuwen --------------------------- ServiceDesk World Online BV Ir DS Tuynmanweg 10 4131PN Vianen Tel 0347-358700 .:***:... O :. :. /|``` :. ::. Taka will never die! \/___/ .: * / _____: __.::* \/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 11:34:51 EDT From: LdyMave sk Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG In a message dated 98-05-23 01:15:39 EDT, you write: << What is your name (real or log name)? Lady Jessica Maverick How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? Old enough to know better ::winks:::: 18yrs. Where do you live (country and territory is good)? NYC - Bronx Are you an artist or writer? Yes to both. Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? sorta. it's mor like a fan web site. not much SK suff on it right now though. http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Studio/6812/index.html Anything else you want to mention? A six-year-old can start a fire with a flint rock even though a 36-year-old man says they can only do it in the movies. My father found that out the hard way. >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 12:22:29 EDT From: EJRSemiGod Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG In a message dated 98-05-23 06:55:12 EDT, you write: << > What is your name (real or log name)? Eric! > How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 16 or 17. I forget. :( > Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Champlin/Minneapolis, Minnesota > Are you an artist or writer? Yeah, a little of both. Mostly an artist (drawing), but I LOVE drumming (that's sort of an artistry isn't it?) > Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? Nope..sorry! > Anything else you want to mention? Yes and no. Mostly no. But hey. I was a fan of the SK when they were on broadkast TV, and then when they were on USA or something like that. When they went to Cartoon Network, I was cut off, much like I am now, because our area STILL doesn't get CTN. Later! EJRDuck! (the only duck on a Kats list! Yikes!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 12:50:30 -0400 From: M Justin Rieley Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: The SWAT Kats Fan Club Online To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG > Just fill in the blanks. If I get 52 responses to this from 52 > addresses, I'm going to faint with joy. > > What is your name (real or log name)? Marc Justin Rieley > How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 24 years > Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Key Largo, Florida, USA > Are you an artist or writer? Artist in the computer field, art being Odyssey CompTek computers. Writer being Pilot's Seat (regestered trademark). > > > Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? The SWAT Kats Fan Club Online (I'm the NL Editor)(http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Lakes/1672/index.html) > > > Anything else you want to mention? > I guess not. > -- > > ----------------- > Rauhnee Ranshanka > mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net > http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html > ************************************************************************ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Excerpt- Valentine Love Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 13:04:23 -0400 From: M Justin Rieley Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: The SWAT Kats Fan Club Online To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Sorry about it if it bugs ya! Driving down Austwize Avenue was a nightmare. Cars everyware. But to Jake that didn't matter. All he could think about was getting away from the MetalliKats. It started when he can Callie were visiting his sister inthe hospital, with his parents and the boyfriend of Katrina. Chance's parents were also. Mac and Molly tried to kill them all, and it failed with Mo Jalla and the Peterbilt driver. So they went to finish them off theirselves. But it backfired again. And the chase had Chance, Katrina and his parents in his SS Impala and Jake, Callie and his parents in his Hummer Wagon. The Hummer did a great job of clearing cars out of the way. "Dad, get the rocket launcher out from under the rear cargo panel and load it up!" Jake commanded, but not with too much tone. "Sure." Jake floored the Hummer, and spun it around, got the rocket launcher, and fired mercilessly at the MetalliKat Express. "Die you damn robots! DIE!!!!!!!!" The rockets did some damage, but Jake got back into the Hummer, and floored it. He gained speed, around 134 MPH, and rammed the MetalliKat Express head on. It made the Hummer jump over it, land on the nose, and do a 360 around back towards the Macrobots. "Oh fudge." --------------------------------------------------------------- So that's what I have for some of hte exciting part, which is still under very HEAVY construction of the sort. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: EuroconFURence Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 19:57:54 +0200 From: Simba III Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Hyas, Anyfur around here coming to the EuroconFurence at 1-7 August 1998 in the Netherlands? Looking furward to see some SK fans :) More info at http://www.eurofurence.org Adios, -----Simba "Pegla" III Van Trotslanden------- TLK Code 1.1: TLK++++ A+++ !C Mt+ DLK++++ L+ Pa++++ W++ S+ Tcts++++ RLA/RLCT RLMC$ A18 Cdnw+++ e+++ h# Iwt++++ p# Sm# ----------------------------------------------------- http://www.cytag.nl/homes/simba ICQ: 3193629 FurrySearch: for Furries only http://furry.ml.org "Back in scouting we used to have some cubs and we made them blow" - Sir Teddy in "You rang M'lord" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 12:36:49 -0700 From: Sigma 9 Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG > Just fill in the blanks. If I get 52 responses to this from 52 > addresses, I'm going to faint with joy. 'kay! Let's all watch this classic event shal we? > What is your name (real or log name)? Ryan "Nicknames" Kelley (Most current log names: Rahshu and Sigma 9) > > > How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 17 > > > Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Hell (okay... for those of you that don't know, Hell is a place on Earth [and you thought that oooh, Heaven is a place on Earth!]. It's in the northern part of California, USA. > > > Are you an artist or writer? I've written assorted crap (literally), most fameous is Midnight Magic (I think that it's true intention is to shock people out of their minds). My new story is Beautiful Dreamer, which is the exact opposite of my first work (aka I've actually gotten compliments from it) and I do my fair share of drawing to... well... I was able to draw over 100 pics of stuff that people thought were cool.. so that's kinda great for me! > > > Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? Letsee... two, mabye three... but one is crap, and the other... it's not created yet :/ > > > Anything else you want to mention? I'm the world's longest standing and only SWAT Kat ExtremistThe Smurfs are communist (Search under Yahoo for this! There actually IS prof of my statement!!) I talk a lot like Seymour "Big" Cheese off of Samari Pizza Cats (especially when I yell at someone) I'M NOT EXITED! DO I LOOK EXITED? I'M PERFECTLY CALM! Letsee... ... ... Oh! My catch phrase "... ... ..." ... ... ... I'm also married to a T-Bone lookalike (sorry people! He's mine and not yours!)... If any of you remember me from the origional kats list (the one from rat.org [now it's called yerf.com]), you probably would have a hard time recognizing me now! :) -- Rahshu Az-Mahnsura Furry code 1.2 FCWhmps3adfs a+ c- d h+++ m- p r+/++ t+++ w z sp RLU a- cdwn++ d-- e! f h* i+ p++ sm- Visit my homepage at: http://members.xoom.com/Rhahshu/ Visit my furry page at: http://members.xoom.com/Rhahshu/furry.html Windows 95: a 32-bit upgrade for a 16-bit addon for an 8-bit operating system for a 4-bit computer by a 2-bit company that doesn't even allow 1-bit competition. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 14:32:38 PDT From: "Katareena Perkins" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG What is your name (real or log name)? Klawz How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? Late teens Where do you live (country and territory is good)? USA Are you an artist or writer? Yes and yes. Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? http://members.tripod.com/~Klawz Anything else you want to mention? Sure - War Eagle! Go tigers! Plainsmen rule! AUBURN!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 15:42:41 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@peak.org Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: ADopeHat@aol.com The following message is the only thing not in the archive now going on. I think you missed it by about ten minutes. But do respond. I set the reply-to address to the list. And Welcome Aboard. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ We have two new members, brining our total up to 52. The Archive has been updated for new members. http://www.peak.org/~dragon/SKML_Archive.htm +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ok, this is a little personal and a lot katmin related. Deep breath. I'm having a really, really bad week, and someone (I think Sigma 9), mentioned the list should be for meeting other katfans. Cool with me. So take two minutes and tell everybody who you are (especially those of you in lurkdom -- at least give me a name to go with that address I never hear from, please). Make your katmin feel cared for by giving her a name and geology lesson about the list membership. Just fill in the blanks. If I get 52 responses to this from 52 addresses, I'm going to faint with joy. What is your name (real or log name)? How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Are you an artist or writer? Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? Anything else you want to mention? -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "Don't. Fuck. With. The. Guide." Merry Lynne ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 16:21:20 -0700 (PDT) From: The Patag Family Reply-To: swatkats@coollist.com To: swatkats@coollist.com >What is your name (real or log name)? Javie Patag. >How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 17 years old. >Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Philippines. >Are you an artist or writer? Both. >Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? None. >Anything else you want to mention? Burnt out amateur fantasy/sci-fi writer who lacks sleep. -------------------<< Advertisement >>------------------- 200,000 exposures for $450? Where? --> Coollist - http://www.coollist.com/advertise.htm --------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 16:51:03 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@peak.org Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: cpatag@pworld.net.ph Message from the Katmin The SWAT Kats Mailing List is now at swatkats@peak.org Please update your address book. Coollist got your message through at least to me, but that list should be down and not everyone saw it. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 16:54:42 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: "cpatag@pworld.net.ph" The Reply-to on that last message was messed up. Don't reply to the list, please. Though you can resend your who I am message if you want. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Uhm... forgot original subject Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 17:55:59 PDT From: "Kristen Sharpe" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG What is your name (real or log name)? Kristen Sharpe How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? college age Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Eastern USA Are you an artist or writer? Both. Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? ::nods:: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/5092/index.html - It's mostly just my fan art. Anything else you want to mention? Uhm... I'm spacey and alternately shy ooorrr... a motormouth on a sugar high! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Excerpt- Valentine Love Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 20:56:57 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG M Justin Rieley wrote: > So that's what I have for some of hte exciting part, which is still under very HEAVY construction of the sort. Aaaaaaauuuuurrrr! Not finished No link No hope of seeing the rest of the scene. YOU ARE MEAN! meanmeanmeanmeanmeanmeanmeanmeanmeanmeanmeanmeanmean *Breath, girl. Breath.* -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "Don't. Fuck. With. The. Guide." Merry Lynne ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 21:02:56 PDT From: "P.I. Hackle" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG >What is your name (real or log name)? > P. I. Hackle. Da Prof. >How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? > 16. Not afraid to admit it >Where do you live (country and territory is good)? > USA >Are you an artist or writer? > Author. Barry Gordon Gets Laryngitis. >Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? > no >Anything else you want to mention? > > it'll come to me hackle >-- > >----------------- >Rauhnee Ranshanka >mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net >http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html >************************************************************************* >"Don't. Fuck. With. The. Guide." > Merry Lynne >************************************************************************* >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center >Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org >850 SW 15th Street >Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 22:07:44 -0600 From: "Strike" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: -----Original Message----- From: Rauhnee Ranshanka To: SWAT Kats ML Date: Friday, May 22, 1998 11:17 PM Subject: KATMIN: New Members and Request >What is your name (real or log name)? Strike's fine. I have a few other things my friends call me, but I have a goodly number of foul-mouthed friends. ;) >How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? Young enough not to miss my teens. >Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Northwestern USA. The part where it doesn't rain 360 days a year. >Are you an artist or writer? AAAAAAAAA HAAA HAAAAAAAA!!!!! BWWWAAAAA HA HA HAAAAA! Sort of. >Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? Yep. URL below, in my Sig. >Anything else you want to mention? Yes, in fact, there is. I made mussels for dinner tonight, and now my house stinks like fish. And lemons. And I have a really dirty pot. ~Strike (strike@sprintmail.com) http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/9294/Main.htm "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history... this century's history.... We all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century." -Dan Quayle ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 22:05:26 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Richard Foster wrote: > To live is to die, > to love is to hate; > to feel is too simple, > that's why I create. Too true and too lovely. My thanks for the thought. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sat, 23 May 1998 21:56:34 -0800 From: Richard Foster Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG >What is your name (real or log name)? Richard Foster (aka Kaitan) >How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 20 >Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Just north of Seattle, Washington Are you an artist or writer? I'm an artist, yet I do not draw. I am an author, yet do not write. Well... I write a little... ;) Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? No(t yet) Anything else you want to mention? Umm... To live is to die, to love is to hate; to feel is too simple, that's why I create. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The pain and the rain... | Quotes of rememberance: ...are coming once again. | "But the odds in that encounter were Falling softly, tapping, tapping, | even." on my window. Through the glass | I hear a whisper, faintly calling | "Sad, sad sweet dreamer. It's just one for prosperity. A glance shows | of those things you put down to myself, a reflection of desire, | experience." being smothered by the ideals of | individuals. I turn away, unable | "The universe is mad; everything else is to withstand the burden of | irrelevant." benevolence that was placed upon | my fate. | "all these moments will be lost in time, | like tears in the rain." Yet I know, that if I let go, My |------------------------------------------ life would become just that; a | Kaitan Dominica (kaitan@usa.net) whirlwind of confusion and desire. | http://whitetiger.home.ml.org To be feared, as appearance is | deceiving, can break even a tiger's| PGP key available upon request. heart. | | I do endorse what I say, and if you Someday I'll be free. | have a problem with it, tuff. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 03:15:27 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Keith Nickeas wrote: > Don't worry, I won't. As long as you vote for me in the next Megakat City election.... wait, wrong persona. As long as you don't get on the wrong side of my ship.... wait, he's dead. Oh heck, nevermind. You keep Jake, I have my chocolate covered horse-radish! Deal. Happy deal. Good deal. Here Jakeee. Come back here ... Now where did that kat disappear to? *Groan. Not again.* -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 03:15:49 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Sigma 9 wrote: > > Just fill in the blanks. If I get 52 responses to this from 52 addresses, I'm going to faint with joy. > > 'kay! Let's all watch this classic event shal we? Hasn't happened yet. 24 in and 29 to go. > If any of you remember me from the origional kats list (the one from rat.org [now it's called yerf.com]), you probably would have a hard time recognizing me now! :) Anyone have the messages from rat.org and any other lists (I have everything from Maxie, Coollist and PEAK)? I want them for the Archive. Pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease (Since looking pathetic and begging seems to work around here) -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: The Corporate History of the SwatKats Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 09:04:23 -0400 From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) (by way of Paul Kemner ) To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net Here's what I've got off the old list: Edo wrote: (and I got four chances to make sure) >I think that they doesn't interested on kats, and letting people think that "violence" is the reason SWAT Kats got cancelled, so that it will be a cover up for their own true reason on cancelling the Kats. Seems that it's "reasons" as opposed to "reason", but the laughable public statements made by Turnerco immediately post-cancellation cannot be counted among them. If some highly-placed folks did try for a coverup of sorts, they did an incredibly incompetent job of it. Even Joe Average Fanboy can work out for himself that something ain't Kosher (er...sorry Lt. Feral) when all his friends draw "Turbokats" during recess, yet he hears Great Uncle Ted decry "low ratings" as the reason for scrapping it. Hmm...somethin' don't compute. Also, kids in schools across the U.S. couldn't buy so much as a T-shirt of the guys (compare that to all the "Goof Troop" stuff out there), so many of 'em did "SwatKats" T's in art class. Can you imagine Ted telling a roomful of such kids that the reason for cancelling the show is because it "isn't selling enough merchandise"? Each and every one of them would walk up to Ted and say "tell my mom where we can buy stuff! I don't draw as good as you!". >Remember when the Tremblay brothers propose the guys to Disney and then Disney says no because they want to do a human show instead. I think that the same thing happen to H-B, maybe that H-B got its own agenda on how they gonna do their cartoons, and the Kats aren't in it. I asked someone in the industry if they could get an answer from someone - anyone - in the Turner power-loop concerning "low ratings" and the "real reason" for the cancellation. I got something similar to the following - not attributed - but interesting nonetheless: "Well, we had no problem with the ratings, but the merchandising was so far behind (the program), and we had no support (from Atlanta?) while it caught up." Certain execs roll their eyes at renewal suggestions because they'll be exposed as incompetent by people above them who'll naturally ask why they suddenly want to re-start a program they advised cancelling in the first place, and the following chain of events might become ammunition for a few pink-slips. (Remember, these folks are professional business executives. Don't start laughing until you reach the end.) 1) TPS, in public, stated that they didn't need to go after a broadcast network to carry the show or start in on merchandising right away because Turner Marketing Sr. Vice President John Walden felt that "because of our outlets - TBS, TNT and TCN - we already have enough support to effect production". FOX would've slotted the program at 8:00 am Western, where Turner could only manage 5:30 - 6:30 am in the West through TBS and various syndication efforts (what's the good of having the fastest car in the race if you show up hours *before* the race, and leave when it's just starting?) Everyone else in the kid-tv biz told Turner that marketing had to be in place *before* the first airing, but the TPS people were new at it, and kept saying "well..we'll see"; a fatal mistake they refused to admit publicly, yet acknowledge *by name* when asked about marketing efforts for "The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest". 2) "Relative to the time periods, those two shows ("SwatKats" and "Two Stupid Dogs") did a better job of improving kids audience then anything else introduced this past ('93) fall." -- TPS exec Steve Lablang. That year everyone else led with tired formula action-adventure, and Turner's "SwatKats" took no prisoners. From August 30th 1993 to the end of the Neilsen sampling period on March 17, 1994, "SwatKats" was the #1 animated show. "Exosquad" was something like 17th - if memory serves - yet was selling enough toys to keep Universal grinning through another season. "SwatKats" hungry fans didn't buy a single toy during the same period - Turner marketing people hadn't made any - and were suddenly painfully aware that their earlier arrogance in not listening to industry people telling them to get their marketing house in order prior to air was costing them untold amounts of money in terms of lost sales potential. Parents, after all, have to put *something* under the tree, and that "something" had to come from a competitor during the height of the all-important first season. 3) The urgency of the marketing situation is not lost on some of the execs and Kats crew, and they realize that for the first time in their careers, they're at the helm of a great show that is in the bizarre position of having virtually nothing on the shelves. A "style guide" is created to show around to potential licensees, and someone figures a comic would be a good idea. Turner has an alliance with Harvey comix, but after a series of delays, the Harvey situation becomes an untenable mess and plans are shelved. Toys - surely the priority in any marketing scheme - are hurriedly designed and shopped around to manufactureres. The good and experienced ones like "Playmates" are already fully committed at such a late date or come in too expensive for Turner's tastebuds. Further complicating the situation is endless revisions of the action-figure designs in order to achieve a compromise between the artistic vision of the Tremblays, the budgetary concerns of Tedco, and the realities of the assembly-line. The final toy design ignores the first schoolyard rule of cartoon-related toys: "if they don't look like they do in the show, I won't buy them", and a Turner exec who knew better rubber-stamped the final design for production, despite obvious shortcomings pointed out by everyone equipped with a finger and a voice. Out of the choices available for a manufacturer, Tedcom settles on Remco - a third-string toy company that hadn't produced an ac/adv action-figure for over six years. Turner is non-committal about promotional promises, and Remco is hesitant to produce action figures for Christmas '94 at the risk of being trampled under by the "Mighty Morphin Power Rangers" marketing juggernaut under the control of Bandai and FOX. "Well...we'll wait and see" reared it's ugly head yet again, and nothing was ready until June the next year. "SwatKats" had entirely missed out on its SECOND Christmas without selling a single action figure. The SNES game is similarly delayed. "Exosquad" meanwhile is being kept around by Universal because it sells toys. The ratings are well-below those of the 'Kats, but have become immaterial for the moment. 4) The only licensee to make it to market on schedule has been Gordy Toy - a Taiwanese outfit offering a line of generic toys in custom packaging. Gordy ships some plastic $2 items to U.S. stores with "SwatKats" stickers and fancy packaging being the only link to "SwatKats". Not surprisingly, this type of thing doesn't exactly enthrall katfans, and sales "aren't up to expectations". On the other hand, American Arts and Graphics secures a license for "SwatKats" posters, and they sell out nationwide as soon as fans are aware of their existence. Turner had done precisely one promotional venture with the "White Castle" chain East of the Mississippi, and most people weren't aware there was *any* merchandise to be had aside from the "target-punch" thing they got free with their meal!. The second season is now underway, and the quality of the series has gone nowhere but up. Where the program is airing in reasonable timeslots, the numbers are more than satisfactory, and Turner is petitioned on a regular basis to improve the Western slots for the program which are still 6:05/6:35 am. "SwatKats" hasn't been able to sell a single toy so eager katfans can play Razor and T-Bone between airings, but *still* maintains a viewership above other offerings that have. Turner takes out a full page ad in the summer trades promising "SwatKats" fans that the marketing *will* arrive, along with new episodes of the series. Katfans are patient, and the amount of fan-interest at conventions, furry-cons and elsewhere convinces most of us that Turner realizes the program is popular, and will back it to the hilt. Turner execs begin to look at the balance sheet as the second-season footage begins arriving from overseas. TPS gets a look at the budget required to produce a first-class animated series, then looks at the returns under the "licensed goods" column and finds a serious inequity. The second season is ordered shaved down to 10 episodes from the standard 13 in another instance of "well...we'll see". Problem is, Remco can't hit market until June '95, and the HudsonSoft SNES game won't get to shelves until some time after that. Christian Tremblay tries to get a comic off the ground with "Dark Horse", but it falls through during a subsequent meeting. Turner now has an alliance with Archie Comix who express an interest in doing a Kats title, but TPS refuses based on "well...we'll wait and see". (For those of you that don't know, animated series like "SwatKats" don't make money by simply being on the air, the companies involved only make money through the sales of licensed goods, and revenue from toy sales accounts for about 90 percent of it. "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" was successful because the Green Guys were on everything from underwear to ironing board covers - not because of the ad revenue generated from broadcast.) 5) Rumours begin circulating around the industry that "SwatKats" is going to be cancelled, but these are readily dismissed by old hands who point out the lapse in rational thought-processes that would need to precede such an event. Certain people in the Turner chain-of-command begin leaking information to other certain people, and the rumour gains strength. The program's second season is now in air, still holding good numbers, and has been the subject of glowing reviews in "Toon" and elsewhere. The staffers are high on the program, and "Emmy Task Force!" posters featuring the guys begin to surface on bulletin boards in the halls of Hanna-Barbera: testimony to the fact that many believe they have not only a good program for the masses, but an Emmy contender to boot. Meanwhile, in Atlanta, Turner high-ups have been presented with a balance sheet showing huge expenditures and no revenue from merchandising. The Atlantans take the figures at face-value, and the program is faulted for the non-performance of the executives responsible for the marketing credo "well...we'll wait and see". Hanna-Barbera is told to halt production in the middle of episode 10, and to be prepared for heavy layoffs. A column appears in "Comics Scene" announcing the cancellation - ironically roughly the same time the Turner ad promising "action figures, video games, the works!" hits print in "Animation Magazine". The Tremblays learn of the cancellation from the press. Fred Seibert and either Bill or Joe tell them the cancellation stuff is "bullsh*t", and that they "hadn't heard anything". In here somewhere likely fit the information I got anonymously so long ago through e-mail: "Turner always hated the program" and "Someone suddenly realized how violent it really was." I'd suggest that these would be from somebody privy to conversations that took place at TPS HQ while they were discussing injecting more cash into the show until the merchandise caught up, and others countering that since Ted's idea of the perfect cartoon was "Captain Planet", that no funds would be authorized to prop up Kats regardless of the circumstances. This is kind of backed up by the expensive acquisition of the rights to the rather violent property "Nexus" (and its subsequent abandonment), and public statements by Chairman Ted with regard to all the violence in "other cartoons". 6) (Disclaimer time: there are some names inferred below. None of the information comes directly from any of these people for the purposes of attribution/retribution. Bark up another tree if you've come a-lynchin'.) The problem with faulting the program for the failings of the Turner Marketing folks isn't lost on Hanna-Barbera staffers from Executive producer on down through the ranks of the background artists - many of which have had a lot of experience in Kid-TV - who realize that a huge injustice is taking place. A number of the Hanna-Barbera high-ups petition Turner Programming Services to look at the facts and reconsider, but TPS turns a blind eye to the facts and insists on pursuing a course of action they perceive as causing the least amount of embarrassment to the Turner executive structure. They miscalculate badly. Hanna-Barbera boat-rockers are told to live with it or find work elsewhere. Some do both. Turner executives arrive at Hanna-Barbera to announce dismissals - including about half the background department and much of the SwatKats design team. Many of the departing staffers ask why they're being canned for creating a program with good ratings, but Turner execs are quick to transfer blame to the program itself. One of the departing staffers actually stood up in the boardroom as the litany of dismissees was being read out, and pointing to the TPS blue-suits across from him said: "Why the Hell don't you fire THEM! We DID our jobs!" Some of the Kats team who aren't fired immediately later quit in disgust. One of the execs orders the last episodes completed just shy of animation in order to be "humane" to crews fired through no fault of their own, and fully realizing that in the event someone eventually realizes the show should go back in production, that there's something held in reserve which could be quickly brought to air. 7) Leaks start appearing in the Good Ship Turner, and product info is sent to a few of us for distribution to other fans by those knowing full well that Turner intends no marketing - and don't want to see them get away with a self-fulfilling prophecy by having late marketing efforts hurriedly swept under the rug. Turner sees the upcoming product information and some difficult cancellation questions based on insider information, and Atlanta begins a witch-hunt. They look in all the wrong places, but the immediate fallout results in no Kats fan-mail being answered, all attempts at improved fan-relations by H-B people being stymied at the next level, and no Kats-related phone calls being returned. Kats videos, games and Toys *do* eventually hit the shelves, but they aren't up to scratch, and the show is taken off TBS and syndication just as the stuff makes it to market. Turner Home Video calls the video sales "disappointing", but fails to take into consideration that there's been next to no advertising, and even the large chains such as "Blockbuster" are barely aware of their existence. The penetration of the toys and SNES game into most markets is in the order of nil. Some Turner people readily point to the disappointing sales figures as backup for the decision to cancel, but ignore an awful lot of culpability in the process. A vast "SwatKats" article and episode guide containing Hanna-Barberian quotes is slated to appear in "Animato!", but certain staffers quoted in it decline permission for the attributions based on fears of corporate fallout. 8) "SwatKats" performance internationally on "The Cartoon Network" turns a few heads, as does the amount of fan-mail arriving at the "toonnet" address. Turner reps promoting other shows at various conventions across the U.S. are forced to fend off more "SwatKats" questions than they're prepared for. People at various levels of "The Cartoon Network", Hanna-Barbera, and even Turner Programming Services begin asking why such a show was cancelled in the first place, and everyone comes up with a different answer. Ludicrously, "Cartoon Network" is told that the program is dead because of "low ratings" - an answer that Turner people earlier realized wouldn't be swallowed by even the lowliest 10 year-old! It turns out that each time Turner gets a "new guy" in a programming position, that the first thing they do is ask Turner Programming Services about reviving "SwatKats"! Tedco seems willing to listen to any "revival" suggestions from these people they spent so much effort hiring, *providing* the suggestion isn't "SwatKats". I gather TPS will have to include a new question on their application forms from now on: "Will you mention SwatKats?" ...just to weed out potential boat-rockers. Whew. That was fun. What's the cure for carpal-tunnel syndrome? Scotch? It's been suggested that Turner Programming Services execs responsible for some of the mess are recalcitrant concerning renewal 'cuz little details like the above would get out. Well, they're out. Now what? If I left out anything, make an appointment to spank me. The line forms outside. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: SWAT Kats Episode Guide (from _Animato_) Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 09:05:02 -0400 From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) (by way of Paul Kemner ) To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net SWAT KATS: THE RADICAL SQUADRON EPISODE GUIDE Source: _Animato!_, Spring 1995, Issue #32 Edited from the original article by Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) DISCLAIMER: Unless otherwise noted, all comments are those of the author (Mark Lungo) and not mine. Each episode is listed along with a summary (as it appears in _Animato!_), Lungo's grade (yes, he graded all the episodes) and comments/musings on it. Episode #24, the "SKIQ" episode, is not listed because it does not appear in the original article. 1. THE PASTMASTER ALWAYS RINGS TWICE Airdates: September 11/12, 1993 Written by Glenn Leopold When two grave robbers accidentally free the Pastmaster from his 800-year imprisonment, he steals his "Tome of Time" spellbook from the Megakat City Museum of History and attempts to change the metropolis back to the Dark Ages form he prefers. The wicked wizard summons dinosaurs through a magical "time vortex" to act as his bodyguards, one of whom knocks the SWAT Kats through the portal into the prehistoric era. Can our heroes fight their way past the dinosaurs, return to the present and stop the Pastmaster before time runs out? This may have been chosen as SWAT Kats' premiere episode because its use of dinosaurs was very timely in the wake of _Jurassic Park_. It's okay, but not the best possible introduction to the series. B Trivia: Most _SWAT Kats_ episodes are preceded with a clip of an action scene from the story, with Razor's voice saying "Today on _SWAT Kats_..." Since "Pastmaster..." was the first episode aired, it has a different beginning, intended to introduce the series, in which Razor narrates a brief overview of the _SWAT Kats_ format over an assortment of clips (all from "The Giant Bacteria," except for one closeup of the Pastmaster from this episode). Appearances: Dr. Abby Sinian has a strong supporting role in this episode. 2. THE GIANT BACTERIA Airdates: September 18/19, 1993 Written by Glenn Leopold Dr. Viper turns his fellow evildoer Morbulus (Jim Cummings) into the title creature, which then goes on a predictable rampage through Megakat City (and inconveniently divides into two anytime it's hit). Viper's reason for creating the monster is so it can break into the "impenetrable" Megakat Biochemical Labs and steal a chemical he wants. (Oh well, he's a mad scientist -- his evil plots don't have to be logical.) This was the first _SWAT Kats_ to be completed, and it's worth watching because it sets up many of the show's key elements. Unfortunately, it's also the series' most violent and horrific episode. After Morbulus' agonizing transformation, the bacteria monster(s) eat a farmer and his cow, Viper's old colleague Dr. Zyme (Paul Eiding), and -- in a shocking scene I can't believe the censors allowed -- ate a subway car full of passengers. Yes, _SWAT Kats_ is a violent show where characters sometimes die (often for no compelling dramatic reasons), but "Bacteria" goes way too far. Therefore, I must make an example of it. D+ Musings: 1. There is one good thing about this episode -- an amusing scene where Chance moons over Callie when she brings her car to Jake & Chance's garage. 2. "Bacteria" also wastes a potentially good villain by killing of Morbulus as soon as he's introduced. Morbulus is even given a distinctive shtick -- he literally has eyes in the back of his head, which gives him 360 degree vision. This is presumably so all the bacteria monsters (there are three) can have eyes after they divide. Trivia: Morbulus was originally called Oculus, but it was discovered that there had already been a _Fantastic Four_ villain with that name. As a result, all the original dialogue featuring the name "Oculus" had to be re-dubbed. 3. THE WRATH OF DARK KAT Airdates: September 25/26, 1993 Written by Jim Stenstrum When Dark Kat steals the material for a homemade nuclear bomb to destroy Megakat City, neither the SWAT Kats nor the Enforcers can break through his defenses. Commander Feral tries to sneak aboard Dark Kat's ship (a plan even he admits is "desperate and stupid") and quickly gets captured. The ambitious Lt. Steel (Hal Rayle), Feral's yuppie scum aide- decamp, would rather advance his career than rescue his boss, so it's up to the SWAT Kats to save both Feral and Megakat City. A suspenseful, exciting episode, but what makes it special is a flashback sequence that shows as much of the SWAT Kats' origin as we're ever likely to see -- which is why this should have been the first episode broadcast. A Appearances: Burke & Murray appear in the flashback. 4. DESTRUCTIVE NATURE Airdates: October 2/3, 1993 Written by Lance Falk The 300-story Megakat Tower office building is about to open for business, but its first tenant is a most unwelcome one: Dr. Viper, who seizes the structure with his army of monstrous, acid-spitting "plantimals." He places a huge "spore pod" on top of the penthouse; when it explodes, it'll cover Megakat City with spores, turning the metropolis into the "Megaswamp City" of Viper's fantasies. Obviously, the SWAT Kats can't allow this. While T-Bone runs interference in the Turbokat, Razor sneaks into the building and tries to stop Viper -- with the help of Callie Briggs, who happened to be in the tower when it was taken. Like the _Outer Limits_ classic "Demon With A Glass Hand" (which also concerns a man and a woman trapped inside an office building fighting evil attackers), this is a vibrant, briskly paced thriller that increases the tension by restricting much of the action to a confined space. This is also Dr. Viper's best solo appearance; he's almost funny as he continually tells his grotesquely mutated creations how "beautiful" they are. A+ Appearances: Mr. Young's debut is in this episode. Mayor Manx tries to persuade him to house his corporate headquarters in Megakat Tower; of course, the less-than-civic-minded Viper ruins Manx's plans. Lance Falk: Falk was a unit head for H-B's art department who wanted to get into writing (he'd previously done four spec scripts for _Star Trek: The Next Generation_). He was also one of the artists who attended the _SWAT Kats_ development meetings. Davis Doi (who had worked with Falk on _Capitol Critters_) allowed him to pitch ideas for _SWAT Kats_, all of which Doi liked, and "Destructive Nature" became Falk's first produced script (and the first of six _SWAT Kats_ episodes Falk would write). "I wanted to do a Die Hard-like thing. Originally I didn't have Dr. Viper, I had a different villain -- I called him Leiter Greenbox [a name Falk reused in "Chaos in Crystal" and "Unlikely Alloys"]. In Falk's early outline, Greenbox creates the plantimals, who go berserk and cause an accident that turns him into a half-plant/half-kat creature, but the plot is otherwise similar to the finished episode. "Davis said, 'We've already got a mad scientist -- just make it Dr. Viper.' It made more sense to me -- 'Yeah, bring the guy back.'" After the episode aired, Falk learned that his script was open to some unusual interpretations. "Somebody told me after the show was on, 'Man, that show was so dirty! You have this big, tall building, like this phallic symbol, and then this big thing that's going to explode on top of it and spread seed all over the city.' When I was writing it, it never occurred to me, but now I can't *not* see it like that." 5. THE METALLIKATS Airdates: October 9/10, 1993 Written by Jim Stenstrum For the first time since their posthumous "complete makeover," The Metallikats are back in Megakat City and planning to "tear up this town like a scratching post!" However, Mac and Molly's first priority is "rubbing out that crud Mayor Manx," because they think [he] denied their parole. It's mayhem in the mayor's office as the SWAT Kats fight to save both Manx and Callie from the mean machines. This is a SWAT Kats classic, thanks largely to the villains, who play their unique shtick (Bonnie & Clyde meet Al and Peg Bundy -- as robots) to the hilt. Valiant Callie also gets a powerful moment when she tells the Manges that she, not the Mayor, denied their parole ("Manx hasn't done an ounce of paperwork around here for years!") -- and almost pays for it with her life. A+ Musings: The theme of villains returning from the dead and seeking revenge was used often on _SWAT Kats_. Other variations on the theme include "The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice," "The Ghost Pilot," "Enter the Madkat" and "The Origin of Dr. Viper." 6. BRIDE OF THE PASTMASTER Airdates: October 16/17, 1993 Written by Glenn Leopold Caught in one of the Pastmaster's time vortexes, the SWAT Kats are drawn back to the Dark Ages. They find the wretched warlock invading "Megalith City" with an army of magical monsters, threatening to destroy the town unless its leader -- Queen Callista, Callie Briggs' lookalike ancestor -- agrees to marry him. And that's not the only romantic complication; when Callista sees Razor pull a certain sword from a certain stone, she falls for him, causing T-Bone to become jealous. This fun episode puts the SWAT Kats in unfamiliar territory, both physically and emotionally -- this is the first time either of them has a requited love interest. Queen Callista is as courageous, intelligent and likable as her present-day descendant. (Tress MacNeille's excellent vocal performance, subtly different from her Callie Briggs voice, adds a lot to the Queen's appeal.) "Bride" also uses a clever framing device: the episode begins and ends with the SWAT Kats in mid-battle against two worm-like sea monsters who are attacking oil tankers. A- 7. NIGHT OF THE DARK KAT Airdates: October 23/24, 1993 Written by David Ehrman Dark Kat enlists Hard Drive to help him destroy both the SWAT Kats and their reputation; after the villains lure the pilots into a conveyor belt death trap, Hard Drive uses the stolen Turbokat to pose as the SWAT Kats and frame them as criminals. Good points: 1. Mook's animation is well done. 2. Callie has a strong role that tests both her courage and her trust in the SWAT Kats; she even gets to save their lives for a change. Bad points: 1. The cliched "make the heroes look like villains" plot. 2. The whole death trap business. Dark Kat is foolish not to kill the SWAT Kats outright; even Hard Drive sensibly complains to his partner, "I still say you should have let me fry those two!" 3. Hard Drive's introduction is marred by a clumsy, contrived monologue meant to explain the "high- voltage lowlife's" powers to the audience. The verdict: I've seen worse, but this one needed one or two rewrites. B 8. CHAOS IN CRYSTAL Airdates: October 30/31, 1993 Written by Lance Falk An accident with an experimental diamond mining machine somehow transforms brutal convict Rex Shard (John Vernon) into a crystalline giant whose touch turns people and objects into crystal... and that's only the beginning of his new powers. Yes, it's another "giant monster" episode, but at least this time the creature has a unique gimmick (not to mention a personality). "Crystal" is also the first _SWAT Kats_ set totally outside Megakat City -- most of the desperate battle between Shard and the two fighter pilots takes place in the desert. Not a classic, but a decent way to kill a half hour. B Appearances: The mining device's inventor is one Dr. Greenbox (Terminator 2's Robert Patrick), who returns in the second season's "Unlikely Alloys." Musings: Warden Cyrus Meece (Jim Cummings), whose greedy exploitation of his prisoners causes Shard's accident in the first place, is knocked onto his office floor and shattered after he's "crystallized" (which Falk intended as "poetic justice"). As the episode ends, every location Shard turned to crystal is shown changing back to normal -- except the warden's office. No prizes for guessing why. Lance Falk: Falk planned to make Rex Shard another recurring _SWAT Kats_ villain -- backed up with two concepts that had never been used before. "What makes [Shard] a villain is his mean and criminal mind, and after the crystal incident, he's so bent on getting the heroes back that he'll go to any length to get some kind of edge, some kind of weapon or power. What I wanted to do was to bring him back three, four or five times, and each time he came back [he'd have] a different power. He'd escape from prison and dive into an experimental energy source and [become] and big fire demon... or a snow guy that freezes the city over. I would have done something more original than those things I mentioned; I thought the crystal guy was an original idea, and I want to come up with stuff just that cool. The other thing was, not only did [Shard] keep coming back with different powers, but every time out there'd be a price to pay the next time he came back. He'd lose an eye, so from then on when you saw the guy he had an eyepatch. And each time he comes back, he's a little more beat up. He's become a fanatic, and he's lost all sight of everything but revenge, and it's really destroying him." 9. THE GHOST PILOT Airdates: November 6/7, 1993 Written by Von Williams The vengeful spirit of The Red Lynx (Mark Hamill), an enemy air ace from "Megawar II," returns from his watery grave to kill the descendant of the flier who put him there, The Blue Manx. Said descendant happens to be -- you guessed it -- Mayor Manx, the flier's great-grandson. Can even the SWAT Kats shoot down "the most evil pilot in history"? And can Mayor Manx overcome his cowardice -- even to save his own life? Manx gets the biggest role of the entire series here, but it's The Red Lynx who makes this episode a classic. The ghost pilot, with his grotesque character design and aura of creepiness, is one of _SWAT Kats'_ best one-shot villains, and he inspires the animators to create several wonderfully eerie images throughout the episode. A Appearances: The ever-helpful Dr. Sinian discovers that only a relative of the Blue Manx (such as the Mayor) can destroy the Red Lynx. 10. METAL URGENCY Airdates: November 13/14, 1993 Written by Lance Falk and Eric Clark The Metallikats escape from their creator Professor Hackle, who intends to "program out all [their] criminal tendencies." In search of their armored hovercraft, the Metallikat Express, Mac and Molly wind up at the salvage yard near Jake and Chance's Garage -- where they discover SWAT Kats headquarters! In a unique action scene, Clawson and Furlong, still in their civvies, must defend their own base from the robot gangsters. The SWAT Kats destroy the Metallikats' bodies, but the tin- plated thugs survive as two disembodied heads crawling around on spider-like legs, and they soon continue their rampage by taking over two huge space exploration robots. There's mayhem aplenty in this episode, but there's also some of _SWAT Kats'_ best dialogue, as well as two character-driven scenes involving Commander Feral. First, Feral and Callie Briggs finally have The Big Argument over the commander's hatred of the SWAT Kats. Then Feral redeems himself at the end of the episode; in a powerful scene, he chooses his principles over a chance to capture his hated rivals. All this and a cameo by Hard Drive -- who could ask for anything more? A In-Jokes: 1. Early in the episode, Professor Hackle and the Metallikats watch the SWAT Kats capture Hard Drive on TV, making a fool of Feral (as usual). HACKLE: "Such senseless violence. It's all so disheartening." MAC: "Wow, Molly! That Feral hates the SWAT Kats even more than we do!" MOLLY: "Why shouldn't he, Mac? Those fighter jocks make him look stupid at least once a week!" 2. Hackle plans to turn the de-criminalized Metallikats into servants -- Mac, a chauffeur, Molly, a housekeeper. He even buys uniforms which the Manges destroy when they escape his lab. However, Hackle must have had two spare uniforms, because they're shown in the second season's "Deadly Pyramid." Appearances: Burke & Murray harass Jake & Chance yet again while the Metallikats watch. (Mac refers to the four as "dueling lowlifes." He should talk!) _Star Wars_ fan Lance Falk says, "Comedy characters aren't my forte. I put [Burke & Murray] in there just so I could meet Mark Hamill." Lance Falk: "I wanted to do a big, blowout episode, and I wanted to do something with Feral. I thought Feral was kind of one-dimensional." Falk expanded on Feral's personality in "Metal Urgency"'s finale, where the Commander refuses the defeated Metallikats' offer to exchange the _SWAT Kats' secret identities for their freedom. "I wanted to show that jerk though he may be, he's got a code -- he has a line that he won't cross, and that line is he doesn't deal with scum. He doesn't need to know anything bad enough to owe the bad guy. That moment is my favorite moment in the whole series, and I think it's my best character writing for the show. I know it's a kids' cartoon, but that scene was really important to me, and all the other stuff was just a device to lead to that last scene." 11. THE CI-KAT-A Airdates: November 20/21, 1993 Written by Glenn Leopold Cicada-like aliens (with pointed, kat-like ears!) take over MASA Space Center, turning scientist Harley Street (Robert Ridgely) and others into literally bug-eyed slaves as part of their plan for world conquest. It's up to the SWAT Kats to thwart the invasion -- and T-Bone must fight his phobic fear of insects every step of the way. This self-conscious tribute to 1950's sci-fi thrillers is moderately enjoyable, but it's undone by the aliens' lack of personality -- compared with the flamboyant Mutilor (from the second season's "When Strikes Mutilor"), the giant bugs aren't very memorable. The best things about this episode are Callie Briggs' brief fight scene with Dr. Street (one of her best heroic moments) and the unusually large role given to Ann Gora (who discovers the alien plot in the first place). B In-Jokes: 1. "The Ci-Kat-A" reuses locations from two earlier SWAT Kats adventures when the alien leader feeds on energy at Megakat Nuclear Plant ("The Wrath of Dark Kat"), then creates a nest for its new brood in the penthouse of Megakat Tower ("Destructive Nature"). When Callie sees the nest she exclaims, "Not again! This building must be cursed!" MASA Space Center had also appeared briefly in "Destructive Nature." 2. Speaking of "Destructive Nature," Mr. Young has a silent cameo here. He and Mayor Manx fare even worse than in the earlier episode, getting covered with alien bug slime at the climax of the action. 12. ENTER THE MADKAT Airdates: November 27/28, 1993 Written by Glenn Leopold Insane comedian Lenny Ringtail, whose mind snapped when he was turned down by _The David Litterbin Show_, lets himself be possessed by the vengeful ghost (yes, another one) of a medieval court jester who suffered a similar rejection hundreds of years ago. The result is Madkat (Roddy McDowall), a wisecracking, shapeshifting harlequin who uses his magical powers to kidnap "the king, queen, knight and jester" (AKA Mayor Manx, Deputy Mayor Briggs, Commander Feral and David Litterbin) one by one, then vanish into thin air before the SWAT Kats can stop him. Madkat's Beetlejuice-like stunts make for some wonderfully surreal action sequences, but he just isn't a memorable character -- and for a comedian, he's not very funny, either. McDowall does a good job as Madkat, but an actor with more of an off-the-wall sense of humor (Dan Castellaneta? Micky Dolenz? Matt Frewer?) could have given the character the Joker-like personality he needed. And unlike his inspiration, David Litterbin (John Byner) comes across as surly instead of amusingly sarcastic. B Appearances: Lt. Steel, who somehow avoided getting fired after his irresponsible actions in "The Wrath of Dark Kat," assumes control of the Enforcers when Madkat captures Commander Feral. Trivia: When "Enter The Madkat" aired during the first season, it ran with the wrong closing credits (from "Metal Urgency"), so guest voice actors McDowall, Byner and James Hong initially received no recognition for their work. The credits were corrected during the second season. 13. KATASTROPHE Airdates: December 4/5, 1993 Written by Glenn Leopold SWAT Kats concludes its first season with the supervillain teamup many fans had been waiting for, as Dark Kat, Dr. Viper and The Metallikats form "an invincible alliance of evil" with only one goal: "Destroy the SWAT Kats!" Can the SWAT Kats (and Manx, Briggs and Feral) take on four villains at once? And how long can these greedy, selfish evildoers cooperate before they start stabbing each other in the back? This episode has a lot to recommend it besides the Teamup -- the pacing is just right, Mook's animation is great, Feral gives one of his best performances, and the end of the second act is a powerful emotional moment. Only some inconsistent writing in the third act (Dark Kat gives three contradictory orders within two minutes, and gives away his desire to betray his partners with two "slips of the tongue" to boot) keeps this from getting an A+. A 14. MUTATION CITY Airdates: September 10/11, 1994 Written by Glenn Leopold Dr. Viper floods Megakat City with a "hideous mutating ooze" that transmogrifies ordinary animals into (what else?) giant monsters. With the city submerged in slime and infested by huge, repulsive creatures, the SWAT Kats undertake the perilous mission of reaching Megakat Biochemical Labs, where they must retrieve an anti-mutagen that can change everything back to normal. Complications: 1. T-Bone, who can't swim, nearly drowns in the muck. 2. Later, T-Bone becomes a mutant when one of the monsters bites him. (T-Bone's really having a bad day, isn't he?) 3. Viper eventually uses the mutagen to turn himself into a Godzilla-sized monstrosity. This is no classic, but it keeps your attention. It's also Felina Feral's debut episode -- ironically, she's first seen rescuing Callie Briggs, whom she replaced as SWAT Kats' major heroine. B Trivia: Callie's communications link with the SWAT Kats is supposed to be a secret, but her she not only uses her communicator in front of Mayor Manx, but she also lets him use it. 15. A BRIGHT AND SHINY FUTURE Airdates: September 17/18, 1994 Written by Glenn Leopold The Pastmaster sends T-Bone and Razor to Megakat City's near future -- a nightmare world where The Metallikats rule as fascist dictators, killer robots confine "non-metallic creatures" to slave labor camps, the SWAT Kats' friends are fugitive freedom fighters, and the SWAT Kats' future selves are dead. This is one of _SWAT Kats'_ highlights; the story is intriguing, the team up of high tech and magical villains is unique within the series, Mook's animation is excellent, and the art staff really earn their pay in creating the dystopian setting. A 16. WHEN STRIKES MUTILOR Airdates: September 24/25, 1994 Story concept by Christian and Yvon Tremblay Written by Lance Falk Mutilor (Michael Dorn), the four-armed, vaguely lobster- like leader of a pack of space pirates, plans to drain all the water from the SWAT Kats' world and sell it to a desert planet. The SWAT Kats and the Enforcers (especially Felina Feral) defend their homeworld by engaging the aliens in an epic battle that begins over Megakat City and ends on Mutilor's spaceship (which he stole from a kat-like race of pacifist called the Aquians). This exciting episode moves like a shot; once Mutilor starts his attack, the action barely lets up till the end. The theatrical Mutilor is one of SWAT Kats' most entertaining villains, and Traag (Christopher Smith), his sycophantic aide-decamp, is also a fun character. One of the best episodes of _SWAT Kats'_ second season. A Trivia: "When Strikes Mutilor" is _SWAT Kats'_ second alien invasion episode, and both here and in "The Ci-Kat-A" the writers go out of their way to avoid mentioning the name of the SWAT Kats' planet because they didn't want to raise the questions that might have resulted, such as what the world outside Megakat City was like, were there any intelligent species besides kats, etc. In-Jokes: Lance Falk derived the name "Mutilor" from an unusual source: some goldfish once owned by his friend Chris Otsuki, now a director at Warner Bros. TV Animation. "Because they were such little, harmless, stupid-looking things, I gave them ridiculous, tough names." These included Galactus (after the _Fantastic Four_ villain), Bruno the Orangutroid -- and Mutilor. "Years later, I'm doing this show and I needed a name for this big, lobster-like villain, so I named him after Chris' goldfish because the name worked, so there's no point in not using it." Lance Falk: After the SWAT Kats free the Aquians, their leader Captain Grimalkin (Michael Bell) tells the pilots that his peaceful crew won't help fight Mutilor. In the finished episode T-Bone replies, "Hey, I can respect that, but we have to get your ship out of Mutilor's hands. He's destroying our world!" Falk had intended T-Bone to criticize the Aquians: "You've got a responsibility to clean up after your own messes," he says to them in an early draft. "You made this dangerous toy, and this toy is going to kill us, so you'd better help us!" An H-B executive caused the scene to be changed. Also, Falk wanted to give "Mutilor" a provocative conclusion. "I thought the twist ending made the story like the Feral scene made 'Metal Urgency.' The pacifist aliens were originally all wearing helmets and you couldn't see what they looked like, because Mutilor took over their ship, and he changed the atmosphere to suit himself so it was poisonous to the actual owners of the ship, so they had to wear space suits. [The SWAT Kats] rally these aliens, they free the ship, they get the bad guy, and at the very end, the saucer's taking off and the little computer voice says, 'Okay, the environment's back to normal,' and [the aliens] look at each other and one says 'Wow! A planet of intelligent cats! How interesting!' and the other guy says, 'Well, it's a big universe. Anything is possible.' And they pop their helmets off, and they're human! And then you back away and see the American flag on the wall, and what you're seeing in one fell swoop is that SWAT Kats is absolutely [set] on another planet in the future. I thought that would have blown people out of their seats if they saw that, but one of the executives said, "Naah, I don't get it. Just make them cat aliens.' And that cheesed me off quite a bit." 17. RAZOR'S EDGE Airdates: October 29/30, 1994 Written by: Mark Saraceni Razor's self-confidence is shattered when he believes that he injured two elderly civilians during a battle. Will he become discouraged enough to quit the SWAT Kats, leaving T-Bone to face Dark Kat's latest evil plot alone? Saraceni's script emphasizes characterization (a sadly rare occurrence on _SWAT Kats_), and acknowledges that the violence surrounding our heroes has to affect them sooner or later. Speaking of violence, Saraceni also offsets the usual trash-the-city mayhem with a funny, cleverly staged hospital fight scene. His only misstep is the tiresome plot device of Dark Kat having a stupid henchman who accidentally gives his scheme away. A 18a. CRY TURMOIL Airdates: November 5/6, 1994 Written by Lance Falk Turmoil (Kath Soucie), a harshly beautiful villainess in a Nazi-like uniform, attempts to conquer the skies of Megakat City with a powerful airship, a squadron of female fighter pilots and disorienting "vertigo beam." When T-Bone withstands these obstacles, Turmoil is so impressed (and smitten) that she offers him a job as her flight commander -- but first he must prove his loyalty by killing Razor. The first _SWAT Kats_ short (and the only one originally planned as a half-hour episode) has a familiar plot, but compensates with the unusual relationship between T-Bone and Turmoil: he's genuinely attracted to her ("She's kind of cool, in a nasty sort of way"), but his duty to stop her is clear. (So much for T-Bone's crush on Callie Briggs, a running gag during the first season.) B+ In-Jokes: When Lance Falk pitched "Cry Turmoil" to the Tremblays, they had already conceived "The UFO Story," which eventually became "When Strikes Mutilor." Falk saw that the ideas were similar: "They're [both] about a big, giant aircraft that has a lot of little fighter aircraft in it, and there's a main bad guy on the big aircraft, so they're structurally the same. [The SWAT Kats] fight their way through the defenses, go inside, beat the villain, and that's the end." Falk was chosen to write both episodes in order to make them as different as possible. As a reference to the situation, he named his villain "Turmoil" -- which is an anagram of "Mutilor." Lance Falk: "I created [Turmoil] because outside of Molly [Mange]. we didn't have any female villains, and even Molly, as good a villain as she is, is half of a team." Falk originally conceived "Cry Turmoil" as a "bookend" to "Metal Urgency," in which he depicted Commander Feral as a character with integrity: "I wanted to show that he could be a really bad guy under the right circumstances. At the very beginning of the episode, Feral is made a bigger fool than ever by the SWAT Kats. He loses his cool and gets fired. Turmoil is impressed with him in spite of all that. She sees that 1. He knows all the city's weak points, 2. He's as made at the SWAT Kats as she is, 3. She finds him virile and manly, and 4. He's got nothing to lose by joining her, because he just got drummed out." Feral joins with Turmoil, just as T-Bone does in the finished episode. But unlike T-Bone, Feral really does become a villain: "He's not just pretending, not just waiting for the right moment to turn the tables on her." When Feral realizes that the SWAT Kats are going to beat Turmoil, "He turns on her out of self-interest and says 'I was planning to do this all along'", and at the end only Feral and the audience know the truth. Falk's idea was changed by an H-B executive who said, "The show's about Razor and T- Bone, so make her fall in love with T-Bone instead." Falk says this changed the tone of the episode: "It's possible that Feral would be bad, but it's never possible that T-Bone would ever betray his partner, so there's nothing suspenseful about it." As for Commander Feral, he doesn't even appear in the final version of "Cry Turmoil." 18b. SWAT KATS UNPLUGGED Airdates: November 5/6, 1994 Written by Glenn Leopold Hard Drive uses a stolen "anti-weapons scrambler" to deactivate the Turbokat's weapon systems. "We can't fight him, so we're going to have to outwit him," Razor declares, eloquently summarizing the simple plot of this SWAT Kats super short. It's only 7:15 long, which isn't nearly enough time to develop a compelling adventure story. Everyone tries their best, though. B- Appearances: This is supposed to be Hard Drive's solo showcase, but even here he has to share screen time with a second villain: Chopshop (Nick Chinlund), a loudly dressed thief with pink hair and an annoying laugh who is quickly caught by the SWAT Kats and never seen again. In-Jokes: When Ann Gora asks the SWAT Kats why they do what they do, T-Bone paraphrases a famous line from Raymond Chandler's essay "The Simple Art of Murder" when he answers, "We have a mission, Ann. Down these mean skies a kat must fly." 19. THE DEADLY PYRAMID Airdates: November 12/13, 1994 Story concept by Christian and Yvon Tremblay Written by Glenn Leopold Every action/adventure cartoon does a mummy episode, but leave it to _SWAT Kats_ to top the other series with an army of mummy commandoes as big as a small building. They're controlled by the Pastmaster, who unearths them from "the lost pyramid of Katchu-Picchu" as part of his latest attempt to take over Megakat City. When one of the monsters knocks off Callie Briggs' glasses, the sorcerer finally sees her resemblance to his beloved Queen Callista ("Bride of the Pastmaster"), so he kidnaps her and starts the whole "You will marry me!" business all over again. As in "The Giant Bacteria," the plot is pretty basic and the violence is excessive, but "Pyramid" has some good points. It's _SWAT Kats'_ best-looking episode; Mook's animation here is among the finest ever done for an American television program. Callie has never looked better (which almost makes up for her being relegated to damsel-in-distress status in this story). And the underused Dr. Sinian gets her most active role of the whole series. B+ Appearances: Another member of "Pyramid"'s crowded cast is Professor Hackle, making his only appearance in an episode without the Metallikats. [We also see] Cybertron, a plucky, R2D2-like robot who protects the pilots and their friends. Considering the dismal track record of plucky, R2D2-like robots in TV animation, Cybertron is surprisingly tolerable, even almost likable. 20. CAVERNS OF HORROR Airdates: November 19/20, 1994 Story concept by Christian and Yvon Tremblay Written by Glenn Leopold When the SWAT Kats, Felina Feral and Ann Gora search for some missing miners in the caverns beneath Megakat City, they soon find the cause of the disappearances: rock scorpions who have been mutated into gigantic, kat-eating monsters by illegally dumped toxic waste. As with "Bride of the Pastmaster" and "Chaos in Crystal," this tale's setting is a welcome change of pace from all the "Megakat City under attack" episodes. The heroes' underground journey is interesting in its own right, and it also means that the Turbokat must be used sparingly for once. But after all the buildup, in the end this is just another "SWAT Kats vs. monsters" episode. And _SWAT Kats_ had done too many of those already. B 21a. VOLCANUS ERUPTS! Airdates: November 26/27, 1994 Story concept by Christian and Yvon Tremblay Written by Glenn Leopold Mayor Manx and Mr. Young plan to build an industrial park on Anakata Island, the _SWAT Kats_ equivalent to Hawaii. During construction, the ancient "fire demon" Volcanus (Frank Welker -- no dialogue, just monster noises) is accidentally freed from his volcano prison. "Lava Lips" soon heads for the mainland and becomes the latest giant monster to stomp through the streets of Megakat City, ho hum. There are only two things of interest here: Razor wears a nifty heat suit while battling the beast, and veteran character actor Clyde Kusatsu (_All-American Girl_) plays an islander who tries to warn Manx and Young about Volcanus. C 21b. THE ORIGIN OF DR. VIPER Airdates: November 26/27, 1994 Written by Glenn Leopold With _SWAT Kats_ nearing its end, the mystery surrounding one of its major villains is finally solved in this flashback story. Dr. Zyme (who was killed in "The Giant Bacteria") and his partner Dr. Elrod Purvis co-develop Viper Mutagen 368, a regenerative growth formula that the "idealistic fool" Zyme wants to donate to Megakat City but the greedy Purvis wants to sell to the highest bidder. While attempting to steal the chemical, Purvis spills it on himself and seems to die, but the flawed formula causes him to revive as the murderous mutant we all know and hate. And when Viper endangers Zyme, Mayor Manx, Deputy Mayor Briggs and Commander Feral with his giant mutant mosquitoes, only the _SWAT Kats_ can rescue them all. Easily the best of the _SWAT Kats_ shorts, this is so densely packed with characters and subplots that it easily could have been expanded to a full-length episode. But then, how could we live without "Volcanus Erupts!"? A- 22. THE DARK SIDE OF THE SWAT KATS Airdates: December 10/11, 1994 Written by Jim Katz T-Bone and Razor enter a parallel dimension where evil counterparts of the SWAT Kats and Callie Briggs are conspiring with Dark Kat to blow up Enforcer headquarters. It's fun to watch the three evil twins verbally abuse each other, but this episode has little else to offer because Katz fails to take full advantage of the alternate universe concept. What if more of the good characters had been evil in the parallel world? What if some of the villains had been heroes? "Dark Side..." just isn't as good as such similar tales as _Star Trek's_ "Mirror, Mirror" and _Darkwing Duck_'s "Life, The Negaverse and Everything." B- Musings: One of this episode's best moments is a silent sequence in which both sets of SWAT Kats infiltrate Pumadyne (a high tech weapons company that appears in several other episodes) to retrieve the "mega-detonator" for Dark Kats' bomb. The good ones are content to sneak past the guards; the evil ones knock them out for the sheer sadistic pleasure of doing so. 23. UNLIKELY ALLOYS Airdates: December 24/25, 1994 Written by Lance Falk "Chaos In Crystal"'s Dr. Leiter Greenbox (now voiced by Nick Chinlund) creates Zed (Charlie Adler), a "micro-brain repair unit" that can automatically fix and damaged machine. When the injured Metallikats use Zed to rebuild themselves, the device's programming is "contaminated with their criminal personalities." Zed begins absorbing other machines (including Mac Mange), builds an ever-growing armored body around itself that's eventually large enough to dwarf a skyscraper, and starts talking about "total world domination." The SWAT Kats, Dr. Greenbox and Molly Mange reluctantly team up and enter Zed's body in a desperate attempt to deactivate the metal menace from the inside. Molly predictably acts up, but Greenbox's reaction is even worse -- overwhelmed by what his genius has produced, his mind snaps and he unites with Zed so they can take over the world together! _SWAT Kats'_ last episode (at least so far) is one of its best. Mook's animation is fantastic, the story is strong, the Metallikats' devotion to each other makes them semi- sympathetic characters, and Greenbox's transformation is effective even though it's abrupt. All this and Commander Feral's first name is finally revealed, too! (It's Ulysses.) A In-Jokes: The SWAT Kats, when they first encounter Zed: T-Bone: "Crud! What *is* that thing?" Razor: "Giant monster of the week?" Lance Falk: "Unlikely Alloys," which was an unused idea from the first season, is Falk's favorite of the _SWAT Kats_ episodes he wrote. "It was Davis [Doi's] idea to split the Metallikats up," says Falk, who had planned to have both Manges join the fantastic voyage inside Zed's body. "I [originally] had a big robot fight at the end, but Davis turned it into a love story. As bad as [the Metallikats] are, as much as they fight and bicker, they're willing to sacrifice themselves for one another. I thought that was a very strong idea, and the instant I heard it I was mad at myself for not thinking of it." THE UNFINISHED EPISODES (All written by Glenn Leopold, provided by Lance Falk. Comments are assumed to be Falk's, although not specifically noted in the article.) TURMOIL II: THE REVENGE Turmoil busts out of jail. It opens up in a women's prison, and this big mole machine comes out of the ground and [the prisoners] all pile into it. Turmoil busts out the entire women's prison, and they all work for her. "She gets ahold of a massive laser satellite system, or a big death beam -- I've forgotten exactly what it was. It's controlled from her fortress, which is a castle on top of a snowbound mountain. The SWAT Kats must scale the mountain and do all this snow fighting stuff. It's real James Bond-ish." DOCTORS OF DOOM Dr. Viper teams up with Dr. Harley Street, the alien- possessed scientist from "The Ci-Kat-A" (hence the title). "They create a lot of monsters that have to be blown up within 22 minutes. I hardly remember that one." THE CURSE OF KATALUNA "It was a succubus story, about a woman that Commander Feral really had a thing for, and she was really draining the life out of him. He was getting older and older through the show, until he was practically a mummy at the end. [Kataluna] drained his energy and became this big, huge harpy, and she had other harpy things that helped, her, and they were terrorizing the city." The SWAT Kats became involved when a justifiably concerned Felina Feral called on them to help save her uncle. Kataluna was voiced by Nancy Linari, who had played Morticia on H-B's 1992-94 _Addams Family_ series. "'Kataluna' was a real strong episode with another terrific female villain," Falk says. "It used Commander Feral more than any of the other shows that used him -- it was really Feral's episode." Not surprisingly, Dr. Sinian also appears; after helping the SWAT Kats defeat the Pastmaster and the Red Lynx, she's an old hand at handling supernatural villains by now. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: On the Animato! article... Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 09:06:02 -0400 From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) (by way of Paul Kemner ) To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net I've received a few requests already on the _Animato!_ article's episode guide, and have sent the guide back in reply. I don't include any comments, as it's easier for me to just include the file and send away. But I skimmed through the article as I was typing up and proofreading the episode guide (at least I ran a spell-check on it, anyway) and came across a few of the author's (Mark Lungo's) comments on a thread that I brought up on here some time ago: "Why is _SWAT Kats_ worth reviving? Why does it have a devoted cult following among adult animation fans?" Here are Lungo's reasons, quoted from his article, along with my own comments (following the quoted material). 1. "HEAVY CREATOR INVOLVEMENT. When the Tremblay brothers sold _SWAT Kats_ to H-B, they ... stayed on as major creative partners. As a result, SWAT Kats has a distinctive look." My comment: I suspect this may have had something to do with a certain Doc Konway getting on the show, too! 2. "UNIQUENESS. Many animated series feature funny animals in humorous adventures ... but SK is different. The Tremblay brothers and H-B realized that animal characters and serious action/adventure stories are two great tastes that taste great together." My comment: Agreed, fully. I like toons that tend to be more story-driven than sitcom-driven, and this is what the Kats have, including one character-development episode ("Razor's Edge") that the producers prolly should have done more of! 3. "AN EXCELLENT VOICE CAST. ... The producers of SK assembled a virtual Who's Who of the best voice actors in American animation." My comment: DYN that Barry Gordon (Razor) also voiced Brainy Smurf, according to the Internet Movie Database (http://www.imdb.com)? 4. "EXQUISITE ANIMATION: Hanho Heung-Up (whose credits include _Tale Spin_) did nine episodes of SK, and they look pretty good. Mook ... did 14 episodes, and they look great. ... [SK's] animation frequently approached feature film quality." My comment: Trash HHU if you want to, but I still think its work isn't that bad. Remember, the Kats could have received much worse animation treatment than they did. (I shudder to think, for example, what Kennedy might have done to the Kats!) 5. "OVERALL QUALITY: The people who made SK weren't just ... marking time while they waited for ... a better show. They cared ... [about] the finished product." My comment: in the article, Lungo goes on to say that this, above anything else, is what has attracted animation fans to the Kats. Unlike such TV series as Goof Troop, which seemed rather haphazardly put together, the Kats have been rather solid and consistent, both with the stories and the animation. Comments on this, anyone? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 16:00:46 EDT From: BastKatkin Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Please remove me from the mailing list until furthur notice. I can barely keep up with the emails and i have a mailbox full of them upon returning from my new york trip/ Bastet ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 14:36:21 -0700 From: ypawtows@pop.halcyon.com (Yvonne Pawtowski) Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG CC: swatkats@PEAK.ORG At 06:38 AM 5/23/98 -0700, Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: >Yvonne Pawtowski wrote: >> nickname: Catbunny (a bit of a story behind the nick, but it has nothing to do with SWAT Kats... it's an anime thing) > >Rauhnee perks up her ears at anime. Though those not into anime may not quite understand... Tenchi Muyo! One of the characters is Ryo-ohki, a horrendously cute brown lop-eared rabbit with a cat-like face. She goes "Miya". When my anime club in Virgina first saw the show, we dubbed her a "catbunny". A bit later we found that the correct name for her, um, species was "cabbit". I hate that word. It sounds too much like "cabbage". Anyway... due to my ability to "miya" pretty much *exactly* like Ryo-ohki, I earned the nickname "Catbunny". I was _not_ going to change it to cabbit. (I get into many joke-arguments with anime fen about this. ;)) -Yvonne Pawtowski __/^-^\__ *Miya!* ypawtows@pop.halcyon.com Resident Catbunny "Die-cast construction. It's a lost art." -- Optimus Primal ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Excerpt- Valentine Love Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 18:13:42 -0400 From: M Justin Rieley Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: The SWAT Kats Fan Club Online To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > M Justin Rieley wrote: > > So that's what I have for some of the exciting part, which is still under very HEAVY construction of the sort. > > Aaaaaaauuuuurrrr! > > Not finished I'm working on it. It's going to be awesome, sized like over 350 KB, maybe even a Megabyte. > No link If you want what I have so far, email me. But I'm not happy with what I've got yet. So I'm making major changes, but the Hummer chase is definitely staying in the final draft. > No hope of seeing the rest of the scene. Yes there is. Rocket launchers finish off Mac & Molly, Jake melts them into paper weights. > > > YOU ARE MEAN! Hey, false accusations! That's wrong! No, that's right. Then again, that's wrong. Anyway, I'm not mean. > > > meanmeanmeanmeanmeanmeanmeanmeanmeanmeanmeanmeanmean accuseraccuseraccuseraccuseraccuseraccuseraccuseraccuseraccuseraccuser > > > *Breath, girl. Breath.* > > You might need some air........Go to a Oxygen Bar. M Justin Rieley ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: On the Animato! article... Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 15:22:27 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: pkemner@bright.net Many thanks for all three, it's fascinating reading (and a lot of it), especially the Corporate History one (I'd never heard anything like it). I vaguely remember the _Animato!_ from my early surfing, but it was good to reread and I didn't know it went out on the list. Now what I need to know (if at all possible): What list were they from? When were they first sent? -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Excerpt- Valentine Love Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 15:52:16 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG M Justin Rieley wrote: > I'm working on it. It's going to be awesome, sized like over 350 KB, maybe even a Megabyte. Then post the excerpt when the story is ready and include a link or instructions to ask for it by e-mail. Anything else _is_ kind of disrespectful as you're teasing us with part of a scene that we can't go look at. What you just accomplished was to probably reinforce the idea that FanFic doesn't belong here for those that believe it and make me think up about a dozen ways to take the remainder, and I really would rather just read it, ok? Do post at least a notice with a link when it ready, though. If you want _help_ with the scene or story, on list or not, then please include 'Edit?:' at the beginning of the subject and I'd be happy about it. I don't mind incomplete work as long as I'm warned about it first. If you want to create a group story (the list helps write it like 'Atlantas War on Us'), then some note about that should be included, or use 'Dreamwalk:' in the subject as it is already an invitation to write more and a warning that there is nothing more too see at this time. That pretty much covers my opinion. Rebuttal? -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 15:52:30 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG BastKatkin wrote: > Please remove me from the mailing list until furthur notice. Done. This is going to the list for an announcement. In the future, stuff like this should really go to me mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net, not the list itself. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: On the Animato! article... Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 23:37:23 -0400 From: Paul Kemner To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net >What list were they from? The corp. history was on the original list, I think. Chance (Andy Hill) also wrote one of the early fanfics that's probably on DJ's site. He moderated the list for a while, and did a damn good job of it. The Animatio article didn't go directly to the list ( Dana ( the moderator then, I think) was a bit of a bug about sending too much stuff ) He posted something to the list saying "email me personally if you want a copy. Ironically, I had a pile of archives downloaded from the rat.org list from the early days, and I had just deleted them when I started copying the new introductions to the list. Someone must have copies of 'em though. >When were they first sent? Corp. history: Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 07:39:09 -0700 Animatio: Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 07:20:55 -0700 (PDT) BTW, another group story would be kind'a fun! It might be preferable to do it off'list as an email distribution, or setting up a little fanfic list on onelist.com. The "Edit?" suggestion was a good one, since some authors want help, and some don't. Another anime fan, hunh? I'm about 40 min away from the huge monthly screenings of the Animania club in Ann Arbor. Once-a-month 5:00 to 11:30, all subtitiled ! ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 05:53:39 +0200 From: Viktora David Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG > What is your name (real or log name)? David Viktora > How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 22 > Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Straz pod Ralskem, Czech Republic > > Are you an artist or writer? Neither writer nor artist > Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? I'm going to have one. When finished, I'll notice you. > Anything else you want to mention? Hmmm... no. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: On the Animato! article... Date: Sun, 24 May 1998 22:14:24 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: Paul Kemner Paul Kemner wrote: Thanks for the info > BTW, another group story would be kind'a fun! It might be preferable to do it off'list as an email distribution, or setting up a little fanfic list on onelist.com. The "Edit?" suggestion was a good one, since some authors want help, and some don't. Personally, I'd love to have a FanFic list for doing both groups stories and sharing and discussing what we've written for comments and critiques (there are two for Sentinel that is one of my great joys in the afternoon when I get up). The only problem I have is people barely talk on the main list, what hope would one so specific have? I can set it up in a matter of minutes on PEAK (it's free and easy), and I happily will if there is any interest in it beyond ours. Thoughts? I really want this to happen, I just don't have the heart left in me to hit another brick wall by myself after the past few weeks. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Stealth Core Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 02:21:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Pawtowski Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG > than a highly compact ECM (Electronic Counter-Measures) suite, > the kind you mount on a B-52. That bird can motor along fly at > 300 knots at 300 ft, and not cause a radar spike. Unfortunately, that's not how real B-52 or other ECM gear works. We have to allow for Cartoon Physics(tm) to handle some of this. > Theory One: > > The ECM blanks out the entire Enforcer radar network. That'll > make Ulysses look like he hasn't hit the litter box in a month. Real ECM basicly works like that, although there are variations on it. The idea is to use your transmissions to jam the other guy. It will always be bloody obvious that *somebody* is jamming your radar, even if you haven't a clue where the guy is. That's "Active ECM", which is what you get out of electronic boxes in your aircraft. True "stealth" is different. That's when you try to hide from your enemies and he dosen't even know you are out there. There is, at present, no way to build a "Stealth Device" that you bolt on to an existing aircraft and make it invisible to radar. Stealth is achieved primarily by altering the shape, surface coatings (paint), and materials that your plane is made of. A B-2 Stealth Bomber does not "turn on" it's Stealth capabilities with a switch. > I personally think it's one, but my knowledge of ECM is somewhat > vague. I only know that it works from my many flight sims and a > few paragraphs from a book called "Red Flag" (2nd edition). Any > comment or corrections are very welcome. Radar works by bouncing a radio wave off the enemy's plane and then looking at the echo to learn stuff about him. ECM works by trying to ruin that echo with your own transmissions. Stealth works by designing your plane to not reflect anything. Now, in the SWAT Kats universe, force field technology seems reasonably common. We could speculate that Razor's "Stealth" gadget is actually a low-level radio-adsorbing forcefield generator. It dosen't provide any actual protection from weapons, but it perfectly adsorbs any radio waves that hit it. That would fit what's described on the show. Daniel Pawtowski ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 02:27:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Pawtowski Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG > We have two new members, brining our total up to 52. Well, one of those was probably me.... I forget if I've already answered these or not. > What is your name (real or log name)? Daniel Pawtowski. Usually login name is dpawtows, I don't believe in anonymity on the Net. > How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 31. > Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Seattle, Washington State, USA. > > Are you an artist or writer? Nope, I'm an engineer. I've done some writing, mostly for the "Superguy" mailing list. > > Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? No, no Web presence at all. Don't even have a web browser at home. Daniel Pawtowski ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 02:34:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Pawtowski Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG > > I think the word for the nickname would be 'cabbit',cat/rabbit Some of us much prefer "Catbunny" when referring to Ryo-oh-ki-class entities..... I always thought 'cabbit' sounded like 'cabbage'. Yuck. Daniel "Gadge" Pawtowski ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 12:41:05 +0300 From: Aivars Liepa To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > Just fill in the blanks. If I get 52 responses to this from 52 > addresses, I'm going to faint with joy. > > What is your name (real or log name)? Aivars Liepa (Aiva) > How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 29 > Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Latvia (Well, look on the map between Sweden and Russia, Poland and Finland. There it is, between Estonia and Lithuania.) > Are you an artist or writer? No. Im computer programmer. > Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? Yes, but its nothing more that archive: http://www.acadlib.lv/~aivars/e/swatkats/ Some movies are there, though, along with a some zipped and some unzipper pictures. > Anything else you want to mention? Well, If someone REALLY REALLY wants to read my bad and long unupdated fic, look at the: http://www.acadlib.lv/~aivars/e/STORIES/XO_SC_BM.HTM If You want to see more at my homepage, the root is: http://www.acadlib.lv/~aivars/e/ Aivars -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- I have faked my reply adress. Remove ".no" from the adress below. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Aivars Liepa Dept. of New Inform. Technologies Latvian Academic Library mailto:aliepa@lib.acadlib.lv.no 10, Rupniecibas str. http://www.acadlib.lv/~aivars/e/ Riga, LV-1235, LATVIA AOL IM: aivars9 Phone: (371)-7106232 ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Stealth Core Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 03:04:27 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Daniel Pawtowski wrote: > Now, in the SWAT Kats universe, force field technology seems reasonably common. We could speculate that Razor's "Stealth" gadget is actually a low-level radio-adsorbing forcefield generator. It dosen't provide any actual protection from weapons, but it perfectly adsorbs any radio waves that hit it. That would fit what's described on the show. Interesting technical description of Kyrie's Theory Two. I like it quite a bit and it does fit in with Razor calling the box a Radar Jammer. It's not the only way T2 could be described, but it's very SWAT Katish. Some thoughts about the Jammer (and other things). Why would Razor have taken it out of the TurboKat if he can't fix it himself? I also find it interesting that while he emphasizes that he salvaged it off a stealth plane (and not a prototype -- how many of these birds are out there?), and he can't fix it himself but doesn't seem too worried. What kind of contacts does he have that T-Bone doesn't seem to know about? And how much have they helped him already? It would go a long way to covering how much gear they have, and that base. There is just no way they could have built the facility themselves, is there? And how could Feral *not* know about that kind of facility under one of his own bases? The Yard is for military gear after all and not civilian use. Which brings up another point, I don't think Jake and Chance were actually kicked off the Enforcers, just demoted and sent to tend a job normally for civilians. Kind of the ultimate form of latrine duty. Which goes to a pet theory of mine. At least by season two, I think Feral *does* know who the SWAT Kats are and realizes he needs them (not like he'd admit that to anything but his most private thoughts, but he does). Not like this would help his temper towards them any, especially in the media, but he did get a lot less abusive and all but thanked them outright at least once (in relative private). (Don't worry, I've already gone hunting today. I'm just on a bit of an endorphin high.) -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Stealth Core Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 08:51:52 -0400 From: Paul Kemner Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG >... it perfectly adsorbs any radio waves that hit it. That would work for "blue sky" flying, but wouldn't a radar "hole" moving around in front of buildings be a bit of a giveaway during all that "urban canyon" flying? Of course, by the time you were that close, you could see the TK, so maybe it's not a disadvantage. >The Yard is for military gear after all and not civilian use. I'm not too sure about that- There are an aweful lot of autos there. And would you have a civilian body shop & auto repair shop ( with signage- not just an 'under the table operation) in a military facility? There are a lot of humans who are attracted to "junk" and its possibilities, but maybe this is a rarer trait in kats. It might not occur to them that someone might play with what you throw away. So they wouldn't strip and re-use or destroy those electronics, engines, etc. On the elaborate launching facility and base- Of course some of it is cartoon or superhero physics. After all, how in the heck does Bruce Wayne get all the secret batcave stuff built? Sure he's got $, but he'd have to do the ancient Egyptian trick of having the soldiers kill the workers who built the tomb, then have the soldiers killed. OTOH, it's amazing what some people can put together as a hobby. People who collect and run steam locomotives, or build private amusement parks, or build giant band organs. Some people are just crazy enough to pull it off. >Which goes to a pet theory of mine. At least by season two, I >think Feral *does* know who the SWAT Kats are... Yup- he knows by then, but he must curse them in public. For one thing, they get a lot done with a much smaller budget. For another, he has a professional's duty to discourage amateurs. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Katty things Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 09:49:18 -0400 From: Paul Kemner To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net >... people barely talk on the main list, There's a system that discourages it. As soon as any mail starts showing up, a flurry of unsubscribes happens in reaction. Makes you wonder why anyone would subscribe to a mailing list if they don't want to hear about the topic. Now do all of us who replied to your intro request feel a bit guilty about generating Kat mail? Maybe the few oldtimers that are still around tend to do it, too. If someone new asks a question, we've already hashed it out and decided the answer years ago. I had the same problem when I was doing the little stopgap Megakat Underground list. (boy was that a nightmare to manage!) Is it your duty to come up with new things to talk about, or if the list is inactive for 2 months is that a bad thing? >Personally, I'd love to have a FanFic list for doing both groups >stories and sharing and discussing what we've written for >comments and critiques For a cartoon show that's dead, dead, dead, SK still generates an amazing amt. of fanfic. And a lot of it is recent! I've got a lot of catching up to do, and it's hard to figure out where to begin. Here are a couple of suggestions: 1. Ask the archive fic authors and the list if they'd like to have a 2nd list dedicated to fanfic. If there is, then go for it ( or if it's not a lot of trouble / cost, start the list and then ask) New stories are probably the *most* interesting thing we can talk about. 2. Either let the main list go inactive for periods when nobody feels like discussing it, or say "Dammit- this list is for talking about kats, and if you don't want to do that you *should* sign off." 3. If you're starting a fanfic list, make sure everyone knows the ground rules. I would suppose that you've got a lot more experience than I do from the other lists you're on, but I wouldn't mind helping you hash some out. Stuff to cover: =Do you, as an author, want help or not? If you don't want constructive criticism- you should say so "here is is- like it or not". I don't want to waste time typing suggestions to someone who doesn't want to hear any. ="You Suck!" critiques should probably get you culled from the list. Golden rule applies. ="It's your story, after all." If you don't like what anyone suggests, you don't have to do it! It makes it more interesting if you can say why- where you want to take the story instead. -English as a 2nd language. If someone's going to the trouble of writing something, I'd definitely be in favor of helping them out with wording. Maybe I can get some help spelling "Institut fur Katzenwissenschaft" in return! =How important is "canon"? Crossovers are one thing, but how about stuff that really contradicts the show? ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Excerpt- Valentine Love Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 15:10:07 -0400 From: M Justin Rieley Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: The SWAT Kats Fan Club Online To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > M Justin Rieley wrote: > > I'm working on it. It's going to be awesome, sized like over 350 KB, maybe even a Megabyte. > > Then post the excerpt when the story is ready and include a link > or instructions to ask for it by e-mail. Anything else _is_ kind > of disrespectful as you're teasing us with part of a scene that > we can't go look at. What you just accomplished was to probably > reinforce the idea that FanFic doesn't belong here for those that > believe it and make me think up about a dozen ways to take the > remainder, and I really would rather just read it, ok? Do post > at least a notice with a link when it ready, though. > > If you want _help_ with the scene or story, on list or not, then > please include 'Edit?:' at the beginning of the subject and I'd > be happy about it. I don't mind incomplete work as long as I'm > warned about it first. If you want to create a group story (the > list helps write it like 'Atlantas War on Us'), then some note > about that should be included, or use 'Dreamwalk:' in the subject > as it is already an invitation to write more and a warning that > there is nothing more too see at this time. > > That pretty much covers my opinion. Rebuttal? > Ah, can't argue there. Well, no more fan fiction excerpt postings until that section is in the story itself. M Justin Rieley ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Stealth Core Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 17:25:38 -0400 From: M Justin Rieley Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: The SWAT Kats Fan Club Online To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > Daniel Pawtowski wrote: > > > Now, in the SWAT Kats universe, force field technology seems reasonably common. We could speculate that Razor's "Stealth" gadget is actually a low-level radio-adsorbing forcefield generator. It dosen't provide any actual protection from weapons, but it perfectly adsorbs any radio waves that hit it. That would fit what's described on the show. > > Some thoughts about the Jammer (and other things). > > Why would Razor have taken it out of the TurboKat if he can't fix > it himself? > > I also find it interesting that while he emphasizes that he > salvaged it off a stealth plane (and not a prototype -- how many > of these birds are out there?) There are 59 F117's, and maybe a few dozen B2's.Well, for one part, why would the government put junk stealth planes in some salvage yard? Stealth planes are still top secret, yet we know what they look like. And to my knowledge, I think a B2 or aF117A fell apart in an airshow near Baltimore a while back? I can't remember which type it was. Anyhow, Razor must have gotten a jammer out of a F14 or such jet. Stealth uses RAM, Radar Absorbent Material, which does what its names says, absorbs radar waves. A radar cross section of a 3-ton parcel truck is greater than a Boeing 747, due to the right angles. Now on a F117A has few right angles, therefore decreasing it's cross section. It also uses jagged edges, on the canopy, gear and bomb bay doors. One F117 has a radar cross section equivalent to a sea gull. If you put all the F117's in one spot, the radar CS is less than one B52. The sim date has been pushed back to June 19th. M Justin Rieley ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Stealth Core Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 14:54:55 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG M Justin Rieley wrote: > Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > > I also find it interesting that while he emphasizes that he salvaged it off a stealth plane (and not a prototype -- how many of these birds are out there?) > > There are 59 F117's, and maybe a few dozen B2's. I take it you subscribe to the club that says this is our earth, just with kats running the place? -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 19:55:13 EDT From: Razor1701 Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG In a message dated 98-05-23 01:15:39 EDT, you write: << What is your name (real or log name)? Meg Eichler How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 16 Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Reston Virginia, USA Are you an artist or writer? I've written multiple SK fics (one of which is at DJ's site), and played around with a few other unfinished Anime fics as well. I'm constantly also drawing, from self portraits to animated characters. Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? nope Anything else you want to mention? not really. ^_~ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Stealth Core Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 20:17:40 -0400 From: M Justin Rieley Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: The SWAT Kats Fan Club Online To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > M Justin Rieley wrote: > > Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > > > I also find it interesting that while he emphasizes that he salvaged it off a stealth plane (and not a prototype -- how many of these birds are out there?) > > > > There are 59 F117's, and maybe a few dozen B2's. > > I take it you subscribe to the club that says this is our earth, > just with kats running the place? > Well, in my opinion, that makes logic sense. It may not, however, make sense to you. But as all known, anything can happen in TelevisionLand. Marc ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Stealth Core Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 17:43:35 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG M Justin Rieley wrote: > Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > > I take it you subscribe to the club that says this is our earth, just with kats running the place? > > Well, in my opinion, that makes logic sense. It may not, however, make sense to you. But as all known, anything can happen in TelevisionLand. So how do you (that's open to everyone) explain the technology curve in MegaKat City if this is just our Earth with kats? -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 11:04:12 -0400 From: "Rudnicki, Edward J." Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: "'swatkats@PEAK.ORG'" >What is your name (real or log name)? Ed Rudnicki >How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 37. Do I get a prize for being the oldest Kat fan? >Where do you live (country and territory is good)? NYC metro area >Are you an artist or writer? Well, I write tech reports, and am a damn fine photographer, but nothing Kat related. >Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? No. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 11:08:55 -0400 From: "Rudnicki, Edward J." Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: "'swatkats@PEAK.ORG'" >Anything else you want to mention? Well, I discovered that I'm not the oldest here (whew!!!). And since I missed out that honor, I'll add that I think I'm the only weapons and ammunition engineer on this list. Also an anime and (don't gag!) Disney fan, serious student of technical military history, and really think I should have lived a hundred years ago :-/ Ed R. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 11:16:04 -0400 From: "Rudnicki, Edward J." Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: "'swatkats@PEAK.ORG'" >Sigma 9 wrote: >> > Just fill in the blanks. If I get 52 responses to this from 52 addresses, I'm going to faint with joy. >> >> 'kay! Let's all watch this classic event shal we? > >Hasn't happened yet. 24 in and 29 to go. Given typical mailing list behavior, this is a very good reply rate. But then, we all know Kat fans are different. Ed ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 12:34:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lobocursor Lyceus (G.Rubio)" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: SWAT Kats ML | /\____ --= Lobocursor Lyceus =-- | | // ~\ _\_____ lobo@apolo.acatlan.unam.mx lobo@indiana.acatlan.unam.mx| | / \ .. \/ www.acatlan.unam.mx/Person/Lobo/index.html | | _/ /______/ www.furnation.com/lobo | |/// \\/ // Werewolf-wolf-Taz-SwatKat Fan & SGI Adm | On Fri, 22 May 1998, Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > Just fill in the blanks. If I get 52 responses to this from 52 > addresses, I'm going to faint with joy. > What is your name (real or log name)? Gerardo Rubio (real) Lobocursor Lyceys (log) > How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 25 > Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Mexico City, Mexico. > Are you an artist or writer? Were/Furry Artist and writer. > Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? www.acatlan.unam.mx/Person/Lobo/swatkats/swatkats.htm > Anything else you want to mention? For now nope. See'ya! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: RE: Stealth Core Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 15:39:18 -0400 From: "Rudnicki, Edward J." Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: "'swatkats@PEAK.ORG'" >> > Now, in the SWAT Kats universe, force field technology seems reasonably common. We could >speculate that Razor's "Stealth" gadget is actually a low-level radio-adsorbing forcefield generator. It >dosen't provide any actual protection from weapons, but it perfectly adsorbs any radio waves that hit it. >That would fit what's described on the show. Either perfectly absorbs, or causes the TK's signature to blend in with the RF. Recall that in WW2 the antisubmarine aircraft had something called a Leigh light. It was a bright light turned on during the day when operating against U-boats. Whereas a plane is normally a dark dot in the sky, the Leigh light was so bright as to cause the men on the subs to not see the plane until too late. It should be possible in the Kat world to do that with radio frequency as well as light Stealth is inherently a passive technology. Despite what the show says, the device here is more properly an evolution of conventional radar jammers. >> I also find it interesting that while he emphasizes that he >> salvaged it off a stealth plane (and not a prototype -- how many >> of these birds are out there?) > >There are 59 F117's, and maybe a few dozen B2's.Well, for one part, why would the government put >junk stealth planes in some salvage yard? Stealth planes are still top secret, yet we know what they >look like. And to my knowledge, I think a B2 or aF117A fell apart in an airshow near Baltimore a while >back? I can't remember which type it was. Anyhow, Razor The authorized buy for the B-2 is 20 aircraft, though Congress may have increased that. Anyway, what's secret about the planes is mainly their materials. Look at the F117. Its odd look is a result of computer modeling limitations, but underneath is a rather conventional craft, with lots of off the shelf components. It's the actual radar-absorbing material that's close-hold. When an F-117 crashes, the area is sealed off so that the material can be recovered. The F-117 and B-2 are the Stealth planes we've seen so far. There are reports of other things flying as well, the most common being of a triangular/delta recon aircraft with the possibly notional designation of TR-3. And the government wouldn't junk all of a Stealth plane, but since many components are off the shelf, one couldn't tell what they came from. Ed who likes reading Aviation Week too :-D ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: I'm back(and one sorry kitty) Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 13:07:16 PDT From: "Missy Gora" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Hi all.... I finally got back from my business trip in New York. Please don't kill me about that chain letter thing, (though it seemed to cool down after the 60th message), i can explain. I'm kinda superstitious(or however you spell it), and some jerk new it, and sent me that letter, which left me with a slight delima. I live on the outskirts of a small town in northern PA, and it seems that modern technology is slow in the comming. None of my friends have a computer, let alone the net, so the best I could do was the SK mailing list. I was afraid i was going to get shot or something, but the trip passed uneventfully. Thankyou for putting up with my silly self, and please except my humbelest apologies.....::*hopeful grins*::..... Missy (note: i didn't write a word of that chain letter either) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 13:13:29 PDT From: "Missy Gora" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG I gonna give it a whirl, hope i'm not late.... What is your name (real or log name)? Real: Missy (last name under security lock) log name: Missy Gora How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? exactly 35 when feb. rolls around Where do you live (country and territory is good)? NW, PA, USA Are you an artist or writer? A bit of both, better at writing though. Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? no, but i'm working on a page, (it's not on the web yet) Anything else you want to mention? ....uh.....not yet..... oh.....which character i like best....hafta be Felina......she's awsome, no contest. (but then again, (lists all main characters) has good points too) : ' )~ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Katmin Notes and Clarifications Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 01:52:45 +0000 (US/Eastern) From: Oh No! To: Rauhnee Ranshanka On Fri, 8 May 1998, Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > sk_adult@peak.org is for: > (going up as soon as PEAK gets back to me) Hi Rauhnee, What's the status of the other list? Rick ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Katmin Notes and Clarifications Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 19:47:32 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: "Oh No!" Oh No! wrote: > > sk_adult@peak.org is for: > > (going up as soon as PEAK gets back to me) > What's the status of the other list? It's up (if quiet), if you want on, I just need an age statement. There is also a discussion going on about creating a SK FanFic ML. Would you want to be on this? -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Stealth Core Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 23:43:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Pawtowski Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG >A radar cross section of a 3-ton parcel truck is greater than a Boeing 747, >due to the right angles. Now on a F117A has few right angles, therefore And, as I recall, the frontal radar signature of a 747 that's in a slight climb is almost identical to the frontal radar signature of an F-14 that's in a moderate dive. Which says a lot about how the F-14 was built for pure performance, without a trace of stealth in the design. And I think more than one of us has noticed the similarities of the F-14/F-15 and the TK. Of course, it was also a factor in why a Navy cruiser once mistook a 747 climbing out for an attacking F-14 and blew it out of the sky. Daniel Pawtowski ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Katmin Notes and Clarifications Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 03:44:35 +0000 (US/Eastern) From: Oh No! To: Rauhnee Ranshanka On Tue, 26 May 1998, Rauhnee Ranshanka wrote: > Oh No! wrote: > > > sk_adult@peak.org is for: > > > (going up as soon as PEAK gets back to me) > > > What's the status of the other list? > > It's up (if quiet), if you want on, I just need an age statement. I'm 42. Bleck! But I didn't see any anouncement on the regular list about it openning. > There is also a discussion going on about creating a SK FanFic > ML. Would you want to be on this? No, I'm on th TTA-FanFic list and Most of the stories are very boring! I assume the SK version would be the same. Some of the TTBS stories are good though. Go fig. Thanks, Rick ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Stealth Core Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 23:56:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Pawtowski Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG > > Why would Razor have taken it out of the TurboKat if he can't fix > it himself? Well, without it, then Swat Kat operations are flatly impossible, as the Enforcers would trace them home. As it, I'm surprized that Feral never thought of laying out a grid of observers with binoculars to just *look* for the TurboKat coming or going. Jet black paint dosen't hide you during the day. > I also find it interesting that while he emphasizes that he > salvaged it off a stealth plane (and not a prototype -- how many > of these birds are out there?), and he can't fix it himself but The whole subject of "Where is the MegaKat Military" can get a bit confusing if one looks too hard. All you ever see are "Police" units responding. And yet _somebody_ must own that aircraft carrier from "Ghost Pilot". > doesn't seem too worried. What kind of contacts does he have > that T-Bone doesn't seem to know about? And how much have they > helped him already? It would seem that they would have a friendly contact with just about every military contractor in the area. Think of the usuall pattern we see: Company/inventor develops new weapon. A supervillian promptly steals it. SWAT Kats defeat villian. If left to their own devices, PumaDyne & Co would've gone out of business years ago, they _need_ SWAT Kats. Perhaps they used to donate money & gear to the Enforcers before the TurboKat started flying around. Might be yet another reason Feral is so ticked at those two. :-) > It would go a long way to covering how much gear they have, and > that base. There is just no way they could have built the > facility themselves, is there? And how could Feral *not* know Another traditional comic-book logic falacy. People have for years wondered exactly how Alfred and Bruce Wayne built the BatCave without anybody else knowing. Villians at least get the easy way out: they just kill the workers afterwards. Daniel Pawtowski ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: Stealth Core Date: Tue, 26 May 1998 21:51:05 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Daniel Pawtowski wrote: > > Why would Razor have taken it out of the TurboKat if he can't fix it himself? > Well, without it, then Swat Kat operations are flatly impossible, as the Enforcers would trace them home. That still doesn't explain why it was out of the jet in the first place. > As it, I'm surprized that Feral never thought of laying out a grid of observers with binoculars to just *look* for the TurboKat coming or going. Jet black paint dosen't hide you during the day. Maybe he has, and knows who they are (they just don't know that he knows). Pet theory, by season two I'm sure he had at least a very good idea who was flying that jet, proof is another matter though. > The whole subject of "Where is the MegaKat Military" can get a bit confusing if one looks too hard. All you ever see are "Police" units responding. And yet _somebody_ must own that aircraft carrier from "Ghost Pilot". I was always under the impression that the Enforcers *were* the military. There is a separate set of uniforms wandering around that do more police-type jobs, and the world "police" is used at least once instead of "enforcer". At least the new jet on that carrier was Enforcer, the ship probably was too. We do know that the Enforcers do have some ships. > Another traditional comic-book logic falacy. People have for years wondered exactly how Alfred and Bruce Wayne built the BatCave without anybody else knowing. Villians at least get the easy way out: they just kill the workers afterwards. Money talks, money can make just about anything happen (not to mention that facility is under his own home -- a lot easier to explain away construction to a mansion you own than a salvage yard you don't). At least Bruce has money. Our guys don't. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: [SKML] New Config Test Main Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 01:39:41 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kats ML Testing Sounding pathetic realy work around here. hee, hee. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: [SKML] KATMIN: List Updates Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 05:46:05 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kats ML Ok, a majority crazy week is revving up for onslaught two, but I got this done (it was in desperate need of a rework). This is the new 'Welcome Aboard' Message and things have changed. Do read, comment if you want. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Greetings katfan, Welcome to the MegaKat City Nexus. This may well be the most dangerous place for a soul to live, but it is exciting around here most of the time. This is the Canon Quarter, and the one intended for a general audience. It is a forum for sharing ideas about the SWAT Kats show itself, and meeting and connecting with other katfans. There are two other Quarters at this time that do have some cross over potential, one for FanFic and one for Adult Discussions. The first covers sharing and discussing Fan Fiction and helping the writers of the Kat Fandom. This list does allow adult material, but only with a warning for sensitive or young minds. The second is for Adult Material (more or less only) and requires an age statement to subscribe. To get on either of these lists, e-mail me about it (and include an age statement for the Adult) at mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net. Now for the info on this list. Please read the following carefully. I know it is fairly dry reading, but by following the guidelines below, you will save a great deal of grief on all sides and make the list run much smoother. If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask me (mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net). I always have time to talk about the SWAT Kats and this list about them. ***************** RULES AND WAYS ***************** The First Law: THERE SHALL BE NO FLAMES ON THIS LIST. The Second Law: THERE SHALL BE NO FLAMES ON THIS LIST. The Third Law: THERE SHALL BE NO FLAMES ON THIS LIST. Anyone caught flaming another on the list will be subject to an warning and possible immediate elimination from this list depending on the severity of the flame and how quick the apology comes. LISTKATS: If anyone flames you privately for a post to the list, please forward it to me (mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net) so I can deal with the infidel. I am deadly serious about this. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The Fourth Law: HAVE FUN Isn't this the point? Please remember that if it's not fun, this list and the SWAT Kats loose out in then end. And as long as the fighting is in fun (and not taken too seriously by those involved), it's ok. Debate is better than nothing and I do love to debate. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ What is On Topic? Questions and discussions about the show itself and the list members. I know this is short, but it does cover it as the creative stuff now has it's own lists. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Now on to more mundane subjects. *** Send list messages to mailto:swatkats@peak.org *** Send administration-type questions and comments to me at mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net *** The Archive for this list (updated at least weekly and whenever a new member joins) is available at http://www.peak.org/~dragon/SKML_Archive.htm. *** All messages that go through this list will have [SKML] added to the beginning of the Subject Line. *** This list is not moderated and I don't want it to be. If everyone plays by the rules, it doesn't need to be. So play fair kats, whether it comes natural for your or not. *** Attached files can crash people's systems -- this includes long stories, short stories, pictures... ANY attached file. So, don't post that way. Ever. :) If you want to share an image (which currently does not have a Quarter of it's own), post a message with either a description of the image and a link to it or a description and instruction for requesting it va e-mail. FanFic now has it's own list and does not belong here. *** About Subject Lines. KATMIN: These are messages from me about how the list is running and any changes, comments or other things I feel needs to be said as an authority and not a member. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ And welcome to the war zone. SWAT should be along shortly to deal with today's grief, but there will always be a tomorrow. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka SWAT Kats Mailing List Katmin GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "What enables an intelligent government and a wise military leadership to overcome others and achieve extraordinary accomplishments is foreknowledge." Sun Tzu circa 500 B.C. ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: [SKML] RE: Stealth Core Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 13:03:57 -0400 From: "Rudnicki, Edward J." Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: "'swatkats@PEAK.ORG'" > And, as I recall, the frontal radar signature of a 747 that's in a >slight climb is almost identical to the frontal radar signature of an >F-14 that's in a moderate dive. Which says a lot about how the F-14 >was built for pure performance, without a trace of stealth in the design. >And I think more than one of us has noticed the similarities of the >F-14/F-15 and the TK. > Of course, it was also a factor in why a Navy cruiser once mistook >a 747 climbing out for an attacking F-14 and blew it out of the sky. Except that that was an Airbus and the incorrect threat assessment was based on the aircraft's radio and other emissions (and the lack of), and not its radar signature. Though as you say above it was likely a factor too. Ed R. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: [SKML] RE: Stealth Core Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 13:12:37 -0400 From: "Rudnicki, Edward J." Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: "'swatkats@PEAK.ORG'" > The whole subject of "Where is the MegaKat Military" can get >a bit confusing if one looks too hard. All you ever see are "Police" >units responding. And yet _somebody_ must own that aircraft carrier >from "Ghost Pilot". The Enforcers seem to be an interesting melange of a large police force (like the French Gendarmerie Nationale) and a true military force. They're certainly not pure police, since police don't use high performance fixed wings, attack helos, and heavy armor. Not in free societies anyway. I'm trying to think of a free society that used such a hybrid force, but can't think of any, since police and military functions, while featuring some overlap, are pretty separate and distinct. Then again, Terran cops don't have to face sundry monsters and supervillains.... >> It would go a long way to covering how much gear they have, and >> that base. There is just no way they could have built the >> facility themselves, is there? And how could Feral *not* know > > Another traditional comic-book logic falacy. People have for years >wondered exactly how Alfred and Bruce Wayne built the BatCave without >anybody else knowing. Villians at least get the easy way out: they >just kill the workers afterwards. There was supposed to have been an ep of Batman:TAS which focused on the trusted mechanic who repairs the Batmobile, and how he'd subcontract out all the high tech items in such a way that none of the subcontractors knew what the end product was. I never saw it, but thought it would have been interesting. IMHO heroes that rely on technical proficiency must at some point have relied on trusted individuals to assist them, people who don't appear in the show but have a hand in what we do see. And the villains don't always kill the workers. Look at the Bond films. They usually find gullible souls whom they can sway to their "vision". Ed R. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: [SKML] Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 19:19:56 EDT From: CallistaSK@aol.com Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG In a message dated 98-05-23 01:15:39 EDT, you write: << What is your name (real or log name)? Meredith aka Callista How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 16 Where do you live (country and territory is good)? South Are you an artist or writer? Artist Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? http://members.aol.com/CallistaSK/jaddah.html Queen Callista's Homepage Anything else you want to mention? incest is not best.. (why does everyone think that down south we believe in incest?!?!?!) >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: [SKML] Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Wed, 27 May 1998 19:23:53 EDT From: CallistaSK@aol.com Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG In a message dated 98-05-23 02:27:45 EDT, EinStein@donau.de writes: << > What is your name (real or log name)? Callista > How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 17 > Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Southern USA > Are you an artist or writer? I do both.. mostly Artist though > Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? http://members.aol.com/CallistaSK/jaddah.com Queen Callista's Homepage > Anything else you want to mention? Even though i live in the south.. I DO NOT BELIEVE IN INCEST! sheesh.. >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: [SKML] KATMIN: SK Mailing Lists Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 03:58:48 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kats ML There are two new Quarters to the MegaKat City Nexus; Adult and FanFic. The Adult Quarter is for discussing and sharing none gen thoughts and stuff on the SWAT Kats and is currently in operation. The FanFic Quarter is for sharing, discussing, and helping writers with their SK FanFic. It goes up around midnight May 31. If you want on one or both of the new lists (or more info on them), ask me (posting that info here is a little out of bounds). For the Adult Quarter, please include an age statement to join. -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka Katmin: MegaKat City Nexus mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "Hope has two daughters -- anger and courage. Anger at the way things are, and courage to work to make things other than they are." -- St. Augustine ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: [SKML] Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:00:07 -0400 From: "mweb" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: Welp, may as well respond... I wouldn't want to be the last one on the list to do so. BTW, is anyone compiling all this data? >What is your name (real or log name)? Log name: Purrcy >How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 28 this October >Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Southeastern Lower Michigan, USA >Are you an artist or writer? A bit of an artist when I feel so inclined >Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/8336/ and is in dire need of updating... >Anything else you want to mention? Umm.. nope! Can't think of anything. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: [SKML] Favorite Gadget? Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 18:35:27 -0700 From: Rauhnee Ranshanka Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Shadowynd Consortium To: SWAT Kats ML What's you favorite gadget and a little of why? (no vehicles please, that's another round) -- ----------------- Rauhnee Ranshanka Katmin: MegaKat City Nexus mailto:GateKat@SWATKats.Net http://www.peak.org/~dragon/index.html ************************************************************************* "Hope has two daughters -- Anger and Courage. Anger at the way things are, and Courage to work to make things other than they are." -- St. Augustine ************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: [SKML] Favorite Gadget? Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 22:11:50 -0500 From: Jason Miller Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG > What's you favorite gadget and a little of why? > (no vehicles please, that's another round) Easy, the Gloveatrix! (or however it's spelled.) Why: If you need a remote controll for the Turbokat, you got one. If you need a grappling hook with rope, you got one. If you need a blowtorch, you got one. If you need a lockpick, you got one. If you need a shield, you got one. And if you need a mini-missile launcher, you have one. The Gloveatrix is, in my option, the best SK gadget made! Jason Miller jase@nconnect.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Re: [SKML] Favorite Gadget? Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 15:16:50 PDT From: "Katareena Perkins" Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG >What's you favorite gadget and a little of why? I'd have to say Evil Callie's briefcase. (You know, from "The Dark Side of the SWAT Kats"). Why? Because it was pretty darn sneaky, you have to admit. ::shrugs:: That and it's the only one I can clearly remember any of the female characters wielding. I got pretty sick of all the cool gadgets being played around by the guy characters. This is true for most other cartoons too (except for Rescue Rangers, and that's totally a different story). ~Klawz www.fortunecity.com/victorian/tiffany/134/index1.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: [SKML] Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 12:02:48 -0400 From: SilverKat Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG >What is your name (real or log name)? SilverKat or sometimes Silver_Kat_ >How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 18 >Where do you live (country and territory is good)? South-Eastern US. >Are you an artist or writer? I make an attempt at both, but recently have had little time to do either art or writings of any kind. >Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? Not yet. >Anything else you want to mention? That's all for now. SilverKat ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325 ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: [SKML] Re: KATMIN: New Members and Request Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 11:58:33 +1000 From: Johnno Reply-To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG Organization: Rod Johnson Promotional Services To: swatkats@PEAK.ORG >What is your name (real or log name)? Mark Johnson >How old are you (rough range is good enough for the shy)? 19 >Where do you live (country and territory is good)? Queensland, Austraila >Are you an artist or writer? A writer (At least I think I am) >Do you have an SK Webpage (address)? Not as yet. >Anything else you want to mention? Nah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This list is sponsored by PEAK,Inc. ISP and Education Center Public Electronic Access to Knowledge,Inc http://www.peak.org 850 SW 15th Street Corvallis Oregon 97333 (541) 754-7325