From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #32 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Tuesday, 1 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 032 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julian Ho" Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 19:05:05 +0800 Subject: Fw: Re: Hi, how's your trip? - ------------------------- Note: this mail-out original contains some messages meant for me only. So I've taken the liberty to edit out the private stuff in the mail so that it can be posted to the list. (Chris, I hope you won't mind me doing so.) - ------------------------- To: kats@maxie.com Subject: Re: Hi, how's your trip? Julian Ho wrote: > > Chris Tom Cimafranca wrote long ago: > > I Will Be At STAR CON (The Sci-Fi / Fantasy Convetion Here In Colorado) > > Over The Weekend Comming Up... > > What did you see there? Ooh, tell me, tell me, tell me! (Bouncing up and > down like an excited kitten.) BAD NEWS =( well, i'm back from the convention & i saw NO kats stuff =( (LONG DRAWN OUT SCREEM OF TERROR !) i'll be okay really =( DO NOT PAY ME ANY CASH FUR FIGURES ! instead, what episodes do you have ? i'm gonna TRADE the figures fur episodes, that way i won't get in any trouble ! (LIKE : I DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM tEDdy tURNover's CORP !) MORE BAD NEWS =( i won't be able to send any figures out untill after my next paycheck at the start of OCTOBER =( [lot's of screems !] this is due to the fact that a lot of kats have asked fur figures (GEE, I WONDER WHY =) COULD IT BE ?) GOOD NEWS =) i got my best friend to aggree to help me with : THE TOP SECRET PROJECT ! [the animated movie] (EVERYONE JUMP UP AND DOWN FUR JOY !) the plans call fur a direct to video only film just fur the kats fans =) [tED can't do anything about it !] Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ Posting Fur The First Time Late Sunday Chris Tom Cimafranca's Signature File --------------------------------------------------- SWAT Kats : The Radical Squadron : Kode Version 1.0 CR/CT8 A++ D+ M++ P++ T W RLAT a t C++dw d++ e* f h i+++wk p* sm Zm http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm - OR - http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers ------------------------------ From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 17:50:33 +0700 (WIB) Subject: Re: Multicolor fur? Jesus Fernandez wrote: >would it be possible that Kats (young teen) would be dying their fur >with shades Purple, Blue, etc.? Purple fur, blue fur? Now that would make the kats look like anime characters, wouldn't it? >I am mirroring my fanfic archive on another server.. along >with my personal and other pages. Where? ------------------------------ From: Sky Lynx Date: Sat, 26 Aug 1995 22:37:16 -0700 Subject: Introduction: Mike Kosior Hi there, I've been lurking for quite some time, a month or better. I figured it was about time I introduce myself :) My name's Mike and I've been a SWAT Kats fan since, well, since June. I've been collecting animated shows that caught my attention, and needless to say, after work one day, my attention was caught at 4:30 on Cartoon Network. Surely enough I started taping SWAT Kats immediately, (although I didn't manage to compile my complete collection before SWAT Kats was taken off and moved to Saturday at 2 only :( I managed to pick up a T-bone and Razor figure at Toys R Us and was gonna tell you guys about em, but I was there last weekend and they were al sold out :( Anyhow, my interests include: SWAT Kats (naturally :), Transformers, Godzilla (NOT the cartoon), NASCAR, and a whole assortment of obscure and miniscuele shows and movies that no one in their right mind would pay any attention to :) SWAT Kats wise: My favorite episode is Mutation City. My favorite Kat is T-bone (although I think Razor's pretty cool too :) Currents Projects: Working on a web page dedicated to T-bone: I only have main page and one of the links done right now. If you wanna check it out it's at: www.clarion-net.com/~t-bone/ Note: The only hypertext that works currently is the tbone link. Untitled Fanfic: Transformers meet the SWAT Kats. That's right folx a crossover :) Just sit there and imagine what Hard Drive would do to a walking war machine :) While I'm currently taking a long needed break from MUSHing, I am Themehead at Transformers 2: MUSH (Trypticon) and play Sky Lynx at Transfomers: 2005 MUSH. When I will be returning to either place is currently unclear, but if anyone is looking for info on either of these places I'll happily send along any info I have. Although, when/if I return to the world of MUSHing, those will be the places to contact me if anyone is desiring to speak to me one on one :) Now, while my fellow Transformers fans might call me a range of insults, "Blasphamer, Betrayer, Crazy, you get the picture" after being involved with Transformers since 1983, I will go on record in saying, it pales in comparison to SWAT Kats. While I still dedicate a good portion of my time (and money) to Transformers (it's difficult to give up a 13 year hobby :) one might lable me as a Kat Konvert :) I look forward to being an active member of the list, and praying every night that Kats return to the tele. While some Kats fans maybe be hesitant to believe that their return to TV is a realistic possibility, I would cite Transformers as a good example of what a bunch of fans can do if they refuse to let something die. Transformers (while now called Beast Wars) is back on the air and gaining popularity as we speak. There's no reason this cannot happen for Kats, and frankly, with the loyal base I see before me, I think it has a real good Chance. (ok it's it's a bad pun) :) ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 08:51:42 -0600 Subject: Re: More kat stuff At 10:33 PM 9/29/96 -0700, Dana Uehara wrote: >JF: Would it be possible that Kats (young teen) would be dying their > fur with shades Purple, Blue, etc.? > >Can you imagine teenage kittens dyeing their fur fluorescent green? >Ick. Loud colors like that would not be likely after 1991...yuck! >HD: It makes sense that every earth religion would also exist on > Katworld, because Katworld is just too similar to earth for them not > to exist. > >Doc Konway's already commented on this, so all I'll add is that there >is no evidence of religion in the Kats series except for Volcanus, >something like the Hawaiian fire goddess Pele. Since so many people consider religion such a controversial issue today, they prefer not to bring it up. Except for the occasionally anomaly, when was the last time anyone ever saw a kid-friendly Christmas special that even mentioned religion? But now I agree with you; religion doesn't seem to have a big presence. It might be like Japan, where the single largest religion today has only about three million members. And with Japan's total population being about 125 million, that's a lot of people who aren't tied to any religion. >What would the likely "normal" body temperature of a Kat be? >Personally, I suspect it'd be something like around 101.5 deg F. Body temperature might differ depending on the color of fur and patches and hair-length. Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" "Arrogance and immodesty are horrible personal qualities. Tt's GOOD that I'm NEITHER of THEM." - anonymous person ------------------------------ From: mmartin3@richmond.edu (Brother Buford) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:01:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Religion (was Re: More kat stuff) I haven't posted in a while, I've been too busy doing skoolwork and keeping up with the other two mailing lists I'm on. Here are my comments on religion... >Since so many people consider religion such a controversial issue today, >they prefer not to bring it up. Except for the occasionally anomaly, when >was the last time anyone ever saw a kid-friendly Christmas special that even >mentioned religion? But now I agree with you; religion doesn't seem to have >a big presence. It might be like Japan, where the single largest religion >today has only about three million members. And with Japan's total >population being about 125 million, that's a lot of people who aren't tied >to any religion. Maybe, but look at some Japanese series like Aa! Megami-sama for example. It's absolutely dripping with religious concepts (however a weird and tangled mixture of Norse mythology, Christianity, and plain artistic license it is). No American series would even dare to forward such a notion for fear of flak from religious and non-religious groups. Other Japanese movies or series also make use of the idea of demons (presumably from Hell), and that most definitely ties in with some form of religion even if it is not stated or even implied. But then again, the Japanese don't have the same BS&P restrictions that American TV has. ____ _ _ ____ __ _ | __ ) _ __ ___ | |_| |__ ___ _ __ | __ ) _ _ / _| ___ _ __ __| | | _ \| '__/ _ \| __| '_ \ / _ \ '__| | _ \| | | | |_ / _ \| '__/ _` | | |_) | | | (_) | |_| | | | __/ | | |_) | |_| | _| (_) | | | (_| | |____/|_| \___/ \__|_| |_|\___|_| |____/ \__,_|_| \___/|_| \__,_| ------------------------------ From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:08:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: More kat stuff > I suspect [a Kat's temperature would] be something like around 101.5 deg F > (around 38 or 39 deg C), since I read somewhere that *cats* have roughly > that warm a body temperature. Perhaps having a fur coat has something to > do with it. Well, the rough rule for mammals is that the smaller you are, the hotter your body temperature. Cats are warmer than humans because they're smaller than humans. Lions are cooler than housecats, etc. As far as we know, Kats are human-sized (maybe the whole series is 1/10 our scale and we don't know it :-), so they'd be colder than a small cat, most likely. Any biologists here care to supply more details? It has roughly to do with overall metabolic rate, which gets faster in small mammals. Daniel Pawtowski dpawtows@vt.edu ------------------------------ From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 03:11:33 +0700 (WIB) Subject: Episode guides and body temperature At 5:33 AM 9/30/96, Dana Uehara wrote: About episode guides: >Edo asks about episode guides. I asked to Terra that are she interested on writing an episode guide. >I know there are a few episode guides floating around the net, Well, the only one I know in the net is just the one from "Toon Magazine", the one that someone typed. >I'll send it out upon request, or if there's enough >requests I'll go ahead and post to the list. Is it just like the one in rat.org? About kats normal body temperature: >On the stray thoughts side, probably indicative of a kat who could use >a katnap (;-) -- what would the likely "normal" body temperature of a >Kat be? It is probably the same as ours. >Personally, I suspect it'd be something like around 101.5 deg F >(around 38 or 39 deg C), since I read somewhere that *cats* have roughly >that warm a body temperature. Well, if their normal body temperature are around 38 or 39 deg C, that is one similarities between us, cats, and kats. >Perhaps having a fur coat has something to do with it. I wonder if there is a "fur coat" in the kats world? ------------------------------ From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 03:11:42 +0700 (WIB) Subject: Kats history At 9:54 PM 9/29/96, H@rd Drive wrote: >My point is that things would be TOTALLY different without the existence of >the religions earth had, and the entire western world would be different >without Christianity. When it comes to language and system of government, >Katworld is just too similar to earth not to also have the same religious >history. If you take a way, no matter which way, if it is the right way, you will reach your destination. The kats history might be different from ours, but their present days (the ones that we saw on SWAT Kats) could be similar to ours. ------------------------------ From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 03:11:25 +0700 (WIB) Subject: Re: Religions, again >H@rd Drive wrote: >>It makes sense that every earth religion would also exist on Katworld, >>because Katworld is just too similar to earth for them not to exist. >>Christmas HAS to exist. Doc Conway wrote: >Whoa. This is one heck of a logical stretch here. To say that Katworld >must be *exactly* like ours because it is similar is a pretty weak argument. Although that the katworld was based on our own world, and Ryan did said that basing stuff is just like copying something. Of course, maybe not all of the stuff in our world are also in the kats world. >That is like saying that because two people look very much alike, they must >also like the same foods and enjoy the same leisure time activities. Pepper stew and slepping on saturday? >No, we have no basis to build any arguments on, and we've been over this. >Religion is a no-no subject in cartooning today (aside from the Animaniac's >Christmas Special), so we have nothing but conjecture. Except for the word "Christmas Tree" in "Night of the Dark Kat", and that is only a *tree*. ------------------------------ From: packrat@magicbus.com Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 17:31:30 -0500 Subject: Musical Kats? Well, it's band season, and while I'm not in the band, my mind is still on it.... Ever wonder what assorted SK main characters would play if they were in a band or an orchestra? Here's my pics. For the best character, the best instrument: T-Bone: - Tuba - the deep bass sound and driving rhythm of a tuba suits him, 'sides a tuba drives the band, kinda like T-Bone drives the Turbokat... Razor: - trumpet or alto sax - I prefer trumpet but out of deference to DJ I'll include alto sax too. Anyway both these instruments play melody and punch out notes and chords as needed... Feral: - bass drum - loud, pompous and hollow on the inside... need I say more? Callie Briggs - piccolo/flute - those high annoying instruments who you'd just like to smack sometimes.... Manx - fairly high, wimpy instruments, that can do a lot, but who are rarely heard.... Felina - trombone - low sliders that can do the difficult counter - - melodies and who can actually contribute when needed Dark Kat - string bass - low, mysterious instrument that can drive the beat (sorry I was stretching for this one) Viper - bassoon - I dunno why it just fits. (never got along well with bassoonists...) Metallikats - tenor sax - kinda low instruments that can take a challenge once in awhile... Aw well I think that's it.... Sorry if I offended anyone or totally lost anyone... Don't worry my mind has cooled down from band a bit now...... Adios. T-Bone "Music is organized noise." - Mr. Erdham "Tubas rule." - The Amazing UD Rhyming Tuba Section and Steve ------------------------------ From: packrat@magicbus.com Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 18:10:20 -0500 Subject: Sk stuff rattlin round in my head... About those apparent cartoon deaths, I don't think a lot of those people died... (well maybe that farmer who got eaten) Cartoon characters have a strange habit of being able to live in any circumstance (anyone remember the old GI Joe where a watchtower collapsed and everyone managed to jump to safety from 30 feet up? Ah, the good ol' days...) Kat tattoos? Well, if it seems so hard to get one as some of these theories you guys are throwin around (like dying the skin underneath the hair and such), then I doubt anyone would want to go thru the hassle of getting one. Rebellious teenagers would prolly just get a body piercing instead... Which brings up another point. Do Kats get body parts pierced besides their ears? Jake would look pretty cool with a nose ring... I don't kno if any of you have ever watched the anime Ranma 1/2, but I think a Ranma/SK crossover would be pretty cool. See Ranma the main character is afraid of cats (with a c) I mean totally afraid... He freaks out whenever he sees one. A crossover would be interesting. Heh, the whole story would have Ranma freaking out whenever he sees Jake or Chance... Aw, well. Thanks for letting me get that stuff outta my mind. Wow it feels a lot lighter now! T-Bone "The difference between the right word and the almost right word is the difference between lightning and lightning bug." - Mark Twain ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 08:12:22 +0800 Subject: Announcement I have been receiving mails intended for the list lately. I wish to make it clear that the recent forwarded mailouts are written by Ed and Chris respectively, not me. If anyone wishes reply to the mails, please sent them to the SWAT Kats Mailing List instead. Ok, I've calmed down now. No offence or insult intended. Later! ************JULIAN HO < julianho@singnet.com.sg >************ |\_/| SWAT ||Kats: The Radical Squadron \ / IS FUREVER !! V Razor: "Whoah! He *does* have eyes on the back of his head!" T-Bone : "No excuses." Honor the SWAT Kats Code 1.0 ! CR34/CT34 A++ D+ M- P+++ T++++ W RLU a20 cn+++ d+ e+ f- h** i++ p* sm Zm Coming soon, my own web page! (Yeah! It seems like forever, doesn't it?!) ------------------------------ From: Yvonne Bennett Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:17:01 -0400 Subject: Re: Multicolor fur? At 05:50 PM 9/30/96 +0700, Edo Andromedo wrote: >Purple fur, blue fur? Now that would make the kats look like anime >characters, wouldn't it? *grk* Samurai Pizza Kats? (gdar) - -- Yvonne Bennett __/^-^\__ *Miya!* | "Did I mention I have 15 wild badgers living in catbunny@nrv.net | my trousers?" -Marcus (B5) ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 18:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: More assorted furballs Sky Lynx: I figured it was about time I introduce myself :) Welcome aboard! Hope you enjoy your stay on the list. My favorite episode is Mutation City. I'm sure Doc Konway's happy to hear this one. Unless anyone has any serious objections, I'm going to axe any more discussion on the theme of Kat religion on this list. Doc Konway has mentioned that this subject has been brought up before, and the last couple of posts that I've read have been veering more and more off-topic, from Kats to Japanese culture to anime. Daniel: As far as we know, Kats are human-sized (maybe the whole series is 1/10 our scale and we don't know it :-), so they'd be colder than a small cat, most likely. Colder than a small cat, perhaps; but perhaps slightly warmer than humans? Had "When Strikes Mutilor" been done as originally scripted (where the Aqueans were shown to have been humans, *not* Kats), we might have had a basis for comparison. But since that was changed, now we can only speculate. Edo: The only [episode guide] I know in the net is just the one from "Toon Magazine", the one that someone typed. That's the one I copied. It's accurate, to the best of my knowledge, and contains the listing of the 23 aired episodes. The only episode that is *not* listed there is the SKIQ episode, most likely because it was written and aired after _Toon_ went to press. The Animato article lists the same episodes, but adds the three missing ones (that were scripted, but never completed or aired). Otherwise, both articles list identical episodes. Personally, I'd see creating yet another episode guide as rather redundant and unnecessary; but it's up to you if you want to do so. packrat: Ever wonder what assorted SK main characters would play if they were in a band or an orchestra? Here's my pics... T-Bone: - Tuba I dunno. Since T-Bone likes stuff that exudes power, I'd be more tempted to place him in the percussion section, perhaps tympani, but probably more likely something like snare drum. Julian: I have been receiving mails intended for the list lately. Once again, this is deliberate. The list currently operates like email, so if you hit 'reply' you will reply to the original poster and not to the list. I *can* set the postings so that people automatically reply to the list for each person's posting, but I choose *not* to do so, for the simple fact that I'd otherwise be flooded with mail, and a good portion of it would be better suited as personal mail rather than listmail. As it is, I already receive anywhere from 20-30 messages a day, most of it listmail that needs to be approved. It's much easier to reroute misdirected email to the list than vice versa, trust me. OK, time to get off the soapbox (or is that litterbox?). ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 19:49:27 -0600 Subject: Re: Kats history At 03:11 AM 10/1/96 +0700, Edo Andromedo wrote: >The kats history might be different from ours, but their present days (the >ones that we saw on SWAT Kats) could be similar to ours. Good point. I never thought of it that way. (Oh, NO! I just said the dorkiest line from "The Brady Bunch"!) Then (if anyone knows enough about linguistics to speculate on this point), how did their language become identical to English? And you can't just argue that their language is translated for the show. Many of the characters' names are of Anglo-Norman origin (or structure). I apologize for bringing up a potentially controversial issue on this list. I didn' mean for anything like that to happen. Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: Yvonne Bennett Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 00:37:36 -0400 Subject: Re: Musical Kats? At 05:31 PM 9/30/96 -0500, packrat@magicbus.com wrote: >Well, it's band season, and while I'm not in the band, my mind is still >on it.... >Ever wonder what assorted SK main characters would play if they were in >a band or an orchestra? Here's my pics. *snip* > Callie Briggs - piccolo/flute - those high annoying instruments >who you'd just like to smack sometimes.... Hey! Flutes aren't nearly as annoying as piccolos... clarinets on the other hand... > Manx - fairly high, wimpy instruments, that can do a lot, but >who are rarely heard.... Oboe? MadCat - Slide whistle... maybe Glockenspiel? - -- Yvonne Bennett __/^-^\__ *Miya!* | "Did I mention I have 15 wild badgers living in catbunny@nrv.net | my trousers?" -Marcus (B5) ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #32 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n033' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #33 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Wednesday, 2 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 033 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 16:41:36 +0700 (WIB) Subject: Kats language >At 03:11 AM 10/1/96 +0700, Edo Andromedo wrote: >Good point. I never thought of it that way. Then, how did their language >>become identical to English? I'm affraid that we will never know about this, since that the one who knows this kinda stuff will be a kat historian, like Dr. Sinian. >And you can't just argue that their language is translated for the show. That is one point that we haven't thought of, the kats could be speaking in another different languange. >Many of the characters' names are of Anglo-Norman origin (or structure). Maybe the names also got translated. >I apologize for bringing up a potentially controversial issue on this list. >I didn' mean for anything like that to happen. It is not a potentially controversial issue, it's a kats topic. Just as long that it's about kats, it's on the topic. ------------------------------ From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 17:17:16 +0700 (WIB) Subject: SWAT Kats, non-adult cartoon? Well, is it? If you mean adult cartoon as in.... ahem, "adult" cartoon, no, I don't think that SWAT Kats is an adult cartoon. SWAT Kats seem to attracted fans from all age groups, although that maybe it was originaly aimed at kids, the explosion go beyond the target range. What I think of SWAT Kats is, it is an animated series aimed to people who are intelligent and who is an adult in their way of thinking (just like Terra Chang or AJ Freda or Melissa, who are still only 12-13 years old, but can be consider as an adult). ------------------------------ From: Jonathan Higa Date: Tue, 1 Oct 96 00:23:56 HST Subject: kat common language? I had a quick discussion with Razor -- that is, the list moderator, but in a different venue -- more than a year ago on the topic of kat language. Obviously I can't quote it exactly, but he can check the following for general accuracy: me: ... So what guarantee is there that you and I even speak the same *language*? Razor: dhasfaslfhiuhpa aodsigpoihew davnoixzhvvoiaf I'd take that to mean that there is no guarantee, at least in his opinion. Wouldn't you agree? - ----------------------+---------------------- Jonathan Higa | higa@math.hawaii.edu Dept of Mathematics | University of Hawaii | 2565 The Mall | Voice: (808)956-9132 Honolulu, HI 96822 | Fax: (808)956-4659 - ----------------------+---------------------- ------------------------------ From: Paul Kemner Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:04:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Asst. Bezoars On the body count... >That scene is pretty disturbing, but consider this: if the bacterium passed >through the city in order to get to the lab, think of the body count. I think the highest total must be in Mutation City, which should have de-populated the city. Unless everyone was away on holiday, the bottom floors of all the buildings were flooded, and yet we don't see any kats on the roof, or the upper floors. Did they all get (gasp!) et?!? >4.) If the TurboKat has laser weaponery, how did Razor built it? Could >radioactive substances be dumped in the Salvage Yard illegally? You don't need radioactive substances to have a laser. Some of the proposed SDI space lasers were one-shot powered by a small nuke, but that's rare in the world of lasers, I think. >5.) How did Manx get re-elected each year? If Feral had already admitted >Manx's incompetence, why would the citizens of Megakat City not realised it? In my fanfic, Schroedinger pours tons of gold into the Manx re-election coffers because he's a discordian, and likes Manx's style. (the gold also buys timely trouble for Manx opponents) This rewards Manx for bumbling. Schroedinger thinks that Callie is the pawn of another Erisian Cabal member, who is providing a balancing force to his support of Manx. (But Schroedinger is totally crazy, right?) =^^= >I'm not sure, but I believe that Prof. Hackle mentions at the beginning of >the episode that he had been working on Cybertron for *months* for the >SWATKats and he mentions at the end that he'd take years to fix it ... heck, >why not build another one from scratch?! :) It often takes longer to fix something than to make a new one. In the case of Cybertron, we want his experience, personality, and heroism, so he's worth fixing. =^^= ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 09:05:13 -0600 Subject: Re: Kats language At 04:41 PM 10/1/96 +0700, Edo Andromedo wrote: >>Many of the characters' names are of Anglo-Norman origin (or structure). > >Maybe the names also got translated. That is unlikely, since European given names and surnames have just as much development history as the languages people speak (given names much more so than surnames). Names in many areas of Europe don' exactly have to MEAN anything. They once did, but they have been so mutated in their phonetics and spelling that it is usually hard to trace their original meaning and purpose. And many of the names in SK are puns, like Ann Gorra and Abi Sinian, as we mentioned before. Even so, many names seem to follow a subtle linguistic structure. Gorra looks like it might be Spanish or Portuguese. Purvis looks like it might be Greek. I would like to go further into this, but I can' right now. =^^= Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:15:15 +0800 Subject: Re: Asst. Bezoars Paul Kemner wrote: > I think the highest total must be in Mutation City, which should have > de-populated the city. Unless everyone was away on holiday, the bottom > floors of all the buildings were flooded, and yet we don't see any kats > on the roof, or the upper floors. Did they all get (gasp!) et?!? *Gasp!* I didn't realize that. Could the population be really, *Gulp!*, D-E-A-D. > You don't need radioactive substances to have a laser. Some of the > proposed SDI space lasers were one-shot powered by a small nuke, but > that's rare in the world of lasers, I think. Oops, sorry. I don't know much about laser-science so forgive my ignorance. :-P Hmm, wonder if the TurboKat can go into high-speed incendiary mode, like the Firebird in 'G-Force', to smash through a gigantic creature. For example, gigantic crystallized Shard or one of Dr Viper's giant Mutanimals. Later! ************JULIAN HO < julianho@singnet.com.sg >************ |\_/| SWAT ||Kats: The Radical Squadron \ / IS FUREVER !! V Razor: "Whoah! He *does* have eyes on the back of his head!" T-Bone : "No excuses." Honor the SWAT Kats Code 1.0 ! CR34/CT34 A++ D+ M- P+++ T++++ W RLU a20 cn+++ d+ e+ f- h** i++ p* sm Zm Coming soon, my own web page! (Yeah! It seems like forever, doesn't it?!) ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:35:49 -0600 Subject: Re: Asst. Bezoars At 10:04 AM 10/1/96 -0400, Paul Kemner wrote: >On the body count... > >I think the highest total must be in Mutation City, which should have >de-populated the city. Unless everyone was away on holiday, the bottom >floors of all the buildings were flooded, and yet we don't see any kats on >the roof, or the upper floors. Did they all get (gasp!) et?!? It's been quite a while since I've seen Mutation City (or a single show of SK for that matter), but I think that after a few neighborhoods fell victim, people in other parts of the city were evacuated. Or did the flooding happen everywhere all at once? Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 16:14:40 -0400 Subject: Re: Asst. Bezoars/Mutation City At 10:04 AM 10/1/96 -0400, Paul wrote: >On the body count... > >I think the highest total must be in Mutation City, which should have >de-populated the city. Unless everyone was away on holiday, the bottom >floors of all the buildings were flooded, and yet we don't see any kats on >the roof, or the upper floors. Did they all get (gasp!) et?!? This is not one of my episodes for several reasons, one of them being the absolute lack of logic. 1. Where *was* everybody? What was Callie the only one to get stuck? *C'mon*, a megatropolis has got to have people. Is NYC's population ever under a few million people? 2. Where *did* all that mutagen come from? And why didn't it empty into the bay? That would mean the city is below sea level, which it doesn't look to be according to episodes like "The Giant Bacteria", and *that* wouldn't work because it wouldn't explain why all the mutagen was pouring out at the end of the episode. There were some other ones not involving body counts/drowning/matugen, but I'll leave 'em out for now. Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy E-mail me for copies of "The Watcher Files of Chance Furlong" SK/Highlander-spoof fanfiction, due out soon. - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 16:30:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats, non-adult cartoon? On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Edo Andromedo wrote: > If you mean adult cartoon as in.... ahem, "adult" cartoon, no, > I don't think that SWAT Kats is an adult cartoon. No, SWAT Kats is not anime...... :) > SWAT Kats seem to attracted fans from all age groups, although that maybe > it was originaly aimed at kids, the explosion go beyond the target range. Probably was aimed at little kids, but from what the Tremblays made it into, I think it aims for all age groups. > What I think of SWAT Kats is, it is an animated series aimed to people who > are intelligent and who is an adult in their way of thinking (just like > Terra Chang or AJ Freda or Melissa, who are still only 12-13 years old, but > can be consider as an adult). Thank you. :) I may think and act like an adult, but I love stuffed animals (got over 10 of them on my bed) and cartoons! BTW, I'm now making an EWJ sound set for the game Worms. I have also made a SWAT Kats sound set, so if you want it, ask Ryan gvvy03@snowcrest.net for it. Words to live by: "Must not fear, fear is the mind killer, fear is the - ------------------| thought that brings total obvlivion!"- Peter Puppy A.J. Freda | "Eat dirt, everybody in the vincinity!!!" -EWJ ah518@traverse. | "Despite my appearances, I am not Evil the Cat in a lib.mi.us | clever disguise." - Evil the Cat, at EWJ's door "Tails" on IRC | - ------------------| ------------------------------ From: packrat@magicbus.com Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 16:11:40 -0500 Subject: Musical Kats? Sorry I forgot to mention Manx's instrument in my earlier post. I intended for Manx to play a clarinet, but oboe does work too.... maybe bassoon (or fagot to you German types) for him too..... As I said I chose the tuba mainly for T-Bone because of the driving ability it has, and the tuba can exert a lot of raw power when it needs too, like a tympani can. I have first hand experience on this because in case you haven't figured it out yet... I play a TUBA!!!! I also thought of a slide-whistle for Mad Kat but then I thought it was too goofy... T-Bone "Packrat's brain is not working today leave a message after the beep and she will get back to you. BEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!" ------------------------------ From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 15:11:50 -0700 Subject: THIS WEEK'S POST: 10/1/96 : YOU KNOW WHO This Week's Post Is Brought To You By : What's His Name ======================================================= GOOD NEWS / BAD NEWS First The Good News =) I've Added Two New Pages To My Site ! (Yea !) They Are (In Random Order) 1. SWAT Kats Toys Wish List ! (Son Of The First Wish List !) 2. SWAT Kats Tradeing Post ! (Want Figures ? I Need Episodes !) More Good News =) I've Talked To A Friend Of Mine And We Will Both Be Animating 'Something' Real Soon ! Now All We Need Is : 1. Voice People (It Helps !) 2. Music (Of Course !) 3. Film (Yes, Film ! Not Video !) 4. Cells (Of Course !) 5. Etc. (Anything Else I Missed !) Now, The Bad News =( I Couldn't Find Any SWAT Kats Stuff At The Convention I Went To Over The Weekend ! (Lots Of Screaming Here !) =================================================== OPINIONS ON DISSCUTIONS 1. Kats Speaking English ? Well, If The Kats Spoke A Different Language Then There Would Have To Be Subtitles On The Show, Just Think About That Fur Awhile ! OKAY, The Reason They Speak English Is That The Show Is Made Fur An English Speaking People Like Us, That And Kids Would Turn The Show Off If They Had To Read Subtitles ! Watch This : T-Bone Yagu Tam Yeet Dogu Et Korum ! Translation Let's Kick Some Tail ! I Don't Know About You But That's Very Distracting To Me And I'm 32 Years Old ! =================================================== Chris T.(Bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ Yeah, What's His Name ! Same Old Sig, Ad Fur His Web Site And Stuff =) - --------------------------------------------------- SWAT Kats : The Radical Squadron : Kode Version 1.0 CR/CT8 A++ D+ M++ P++ T W RLAT a t C++dw d++ e* f h i+++wk p* sm Zm http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm - - OR - http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers ------------------------------ From: kaychang@eden.com (CrystalSkye) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 16:38:43 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Episode guides and body temperature I have a (did she make you cry, make you break down) song stuck in my head (shatter you illusions of love?) right now, so if you see song lyrics (is it over now; do you know how) pay no attention to (t' pick up the pieces and go home?) them, okay? ;) >About episode guides: >>Edo asks about episode guides. > >I asked to Terra that are she interested on writing an episode guide. ME?! Lord and Lady, when would I get *time*?? :P I can try, but I make no promises! (My HerK movies are on their way in da mail... Jeeze, I'll be too busy watchin' 'em to write *anything*! ;D) >>I know there are a few episode guides floating around the net, > >Well, the only one I know in the net is just the one from "Toon Magazine", >the one that someone typed. And that one's not very good... They didn't even mention the Metalikats finding out about the SK's true identity. >About kats normal body temperature: >>I suspect it'd be something like around 101.5 deg F >>(around 38 or 39 deg C), since I read somewhere that *cats* have roughly >>that warm a body temperature. > >Well, if their normal body temperature are around 38 or 39 deg C, that is >one similarities between us, cats, and kats. Maybe it's something like an average between those two... I dunno. Math is *not* my best subject. :P >>Perhaps having a fur coat has something to do with it. > >I wonder if there is a "fur coat" in the kats world? Achk, considering my most recent re-obsession... I wonder if they have any of the same movies we do? I mean, do they have some cartoon in *their* world about two "human" fighters who fly around and do heroic stuff? Or howabout The Crow? Where d'you guys think *that'll* fit in? (Yes, I'm obsessed, and I'm *proud* of it!!! ;D) Terra Chang *~*~* Insanity is a playground for the unimaginitive. *~*~* CrystalSkye's Personal Universe! GO SEE IT! ;) http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/6315/index.html ------------------------------ From: kaychang@eden.com (CrystalSkye) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 16:41:39 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Kats history >At 9:54 PM 9/29/96, H@rd Drive wrote: >The kats history might be different from ours, but their present days (the >ones that we saw on SWAT Kats) could be similar to ours. Maybe it's like the history of the rats from The Secret of N.I.M.H.; you know, there *were* humans that performed weirdo expieriements, and all... (this is starting to soud suspicously like that conversation we had on the first mailing list about what Dark Kat is... Ryan, Edo, DJ, you guys remember this?) After all, we don't know that the 'Kats world is on the same size-scale as ours are. For all we know, they're normal cat size, and since we're so up close, it *seems* like natural size. (I hope that makes sense!) Terra Chang *~*~* Insanity is a playground for the unimaginitive. *~*~* CrystalSkye's Personal Universe! GO SEE IT! ;) http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/6315/index.html ------------------------------ From: kaychang@eden.com (CrystalSkye) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 16:57:37 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats, non-adult cartoon? >Well, is it? If you mean adult cartoon as in.... ahem, "adult" cartoon, no, >I don't think that SWAT Kats is an adult cartoon. Same here. Anyway, if it was what most people would deem "adult," I doubt a certain person-who-we-all-know-and-hate-for-obvious-reasons would even *consider* showing it on his precious Cartoon Network. :P Lord and Lady, what an idiot! >SWAT Kats seem to attracted fans from all age groups, although that maybe >it was originaly aimed at kids, the explosion go beyond the target range. Yeah... most shows like this start out for kids in a certain area range, and end up appealing to everyone. (The only other one I can think of at the moment is Sailor Moon.) >What I think of SWAT Kats is, it is an animated series aimed to people who >are intelligent and who is an adult in their way of thinking (just like >Terra Chang or AJ Freda or Melissa, who are still only 12-13 years old, but >can be consider as an adult). I can be considered adult by my way of thinking! Wow! ;D And all this from reading books that are deemed "adult"! (Anne Rice; Mercedes Lackey; J. O'Barr) BTW--when is the next listperson's birthday? Mine's October 12--eek! I'll be 13 in about 1 week! aaaaah! (Five or six more years, and Edo won't have to say I'm deemed "adult" by my way of thought! ;D) Terra Chang *~*~* Insanity is a playground for the unimaginitive. *~*~* CrystalSkye's Personal Universe! GO SEE IT! ;) http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/6315/index.html ------------------------------ From: Paul Kemner Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 20:48:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Episode guides and body temperature >I wonder if [Megakat City has] any of the same movies we do? Here's a trivia question for all you other kats- One episode shows a movie theater with zillions of kat movies in it- Which ep was it, and what kat movie titles could you make out? Do you need a hint to find the ep? =^^= ------------------------------ From: Zax Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 21:03:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Musical Kats? My vote T-Bone: Typanni Razer: Sax Callie Briggs: Vocals Steele: Piano Uly Ferrel: Trombone Fel Ferrel: Drums (Trap set) Anne Gora: Xylophone Prof Hackal: Moog Synthasizer Mayor Manx: Conducts Camerman: Trumpet ------------------------------ From: Zax Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 21:08:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: THIS WEEK'S POST: 10/1/96 : YOU KNOW WHO On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Chris Tom Cimafranca wrote: > 1. Kats Speaking English ? > Well, If The Kats Spoke A Different Language > Then There Would Have To Be Subtitles On The > Show, Just Think About That Fur Awhile ! Razor: Doh K'Cha! eZaH! Poh! ParamountKob! Translation: Hairball! ________________________________________________________________________ Commander Zax Obligatory Web Page plug: http://village.ios.com/~zzul518 _____________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 18:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Mrowr? I dunno. I keep thinking that a *kazoo* would fit Madkat more than anything else. Jonathan: I had a quick discussion with Razor -- that is, the list moderator, but in a different venue -- more than a year ago on the topic of kat language. Mrowr? If you really wanted to stretch things, you could say that the Kats speak their own language, but when the "footage" (i.e., episodes) was broadcast to Earth, everything was translated into English. That could explain some misspellings ("Megacat" instead of "Megakat", for example, or "Cement Machine Gan", and so on). But that's pushing it, I think. Paul: You don't need radioactive substances to have a laser. Lessee... "laser" stands for "light amplification by simulated emission of radiation," if I remember the acronym properly. All you'd need, then, would be something that would emit radiation (not necessarily something *radioactive*) and something else to concentrate it so that everything is coherent (in this case, everything focused in one direction). Julian: Hmm, wonder if the TurboKat can go into high-speed incendiary mode, like the Firebird in 'G-Force', to smash through a gigantic creature. Well, Razor did equip the jet with the "speed of heat" engines, which have allowed it to be used for space travel... and the Kats *have* used it to get rid of a mutated rock scorpion (cf. "Caverns of Horror"). Picking nits: what exactly *is* the "speed of heat"? DJ: ["Mutation City"] is not one of my episodes for several reasons, one of them being the absolute lack of logic. Do you *have* any favorite episodes? ;-) So far I've seen you pan three of them, but I haven't seen you give any claws-up to any of the eps. A side comment on "Mutation City" that a friend (not on the list) brought up when I first showed him the episode: near the end of the story, when T-Bone rescues Razor, he has to go all the way from Megakat Biochemical to somewhere around Enforcer Headquarters, where Razor battled Dr. Viper. If that's an eight-mile trip (assuming Felina makes that comment "eight miles and closing" shortly after leaving Enforcer HQ), that's a hell of a distance to swim... although, as I later noticed, we *do* see the remaining jet ski missile parked in the water as T-Bone pulls his pal to the surface. AJ: Probably was aimed at little kids, but from what the Tremblays made it into, I think it aims for all age groups. Someone (I don't remember who, but I think it was chance) mentioned that the original target audience for the Kats was the six-to-eight year old range. And storywise, it still seems to cater to them, because those of us who have been analyzing and reanalyzing the stories have managed to find holes in them. Yet given the quality of the stories *and* the animation, *especially* compared to H-B's earlier work, the Kats were definitely an improvement over what H-B put out in the 70s and 80s. I may think and act like an adult, but I love stuffed animals (got over 10 of them on my bed) and cartoons! If, in the wildest sense of the imagination, the Kats do get revived, should we push for T-Bone and Razor plushies? ;-) ------------------------------ From: jaguar@warwick.net (Jagwar) Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:35:57 -0400 Subject: Re: Mrowr? (Lasers) In a message dated 6:20 PM 10/1/96, Dana Uehara wrote: >Paul: You don't need radioactive substances to have a laser. > >Lessee... "laser" stands for "light amplification by simulated >emission of radiation," if I remember the acronym properly. All >you'd need, then, would be something that would emit radiation (not >necessarily something *radioactive*) and something else to concentrate >it so that everything is coherent (in this case, everything focused in >one direction). That's the difference between electromagnetic radiation (light, radio waves, etc.) and ionizing radiation (alpha, beta, gamma, etc.). Lasers put out light and MASERs microwaves. An x-ray laser might be another case. The shorter wavelength carries more energy than visible light, which would make an x-laser very useful. That is, if anyone develops one that really works. It still wouldn't make things permanently radioactive though. Is the big gnarly thing Zed blows up the mountain with supposed to be an x-laser? (Kewel 'splosion wasn't it?) I think animators just throw in lasers most of the time 'cause they look better than ordinary ordnance. - -- _______________________________________________________________ / Michael J. Rider jaguar@warwick.net jaguar@magiccarpet.com / / http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/3224/index.html / --------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #33 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n034' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #34 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Thursday, 3 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 034 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: packrat@magicbus.com Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:03:02 -0500 Subject: Lasers This ain't real on topic... but the reasons that cartoons use lasers is so that children can readily reproduce the violence seen in the cartoon. I know they can do this with martial arts and all, but can you imagine what would happen if little kids saw cartoons like Power Rangers and SK with heroes using actual guns to shoot at the enemy? With many handguns within the reach of children today the results could be disastrous. Well there it is. I think I may have watched the Gargoyles episode Deadly Force too much...... T-Bone "I do not want to play with your wooden duck!" - Arthur ------------------------------ From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 01:15:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Mrowr? > Lessee... "laser" stands for "light amplification by simulated > emission of radiation," if I remember the acronym properly. All I think others have covered that already, the word "radiation" in that acronym refers to non-ionizing radiation like visible light, infrared, ultraviolent, etc. Uranium gives off ionizing radiation, which has nothing to do with lasers. > > Picking nits: what exactly *is* the "speed of heat"? Razor did call it the "Speed of heat turbine enhancement" the first time. My guess is that it's an engine modification, possibly some sort of super-afterburner. From what we saw in "Mutilor", it gives both increased thrust and higher altitude. Which could be either an altered inlet geometry that lets it take in more air, or a setup that involves injecting an oxidizer that enables the engines to burn hotter than normal. The latter fits better with the word "heat" in the name, and also allows operation in space. Admittedly, the episode is unclear about whether or not "Speed of Heat" was used for space flight. When they boarded the ship, it could still have been in atmosphere. At the end for the true space combat, they used "Sub-Orbital Mode", which involved an extra set of engines (Geez, where does Razor find all that _room_ in his airframe :-), presumably pure rockets. Curiously enough, the deployment of the "Sub-Orbital Mode" rocket engines out on the ends of long poles away from the fuselage makes a lot of sense for a space fighter. The same logic is why the EA-23 Starfury space fighters from Babylon 5 have a similar engine configuration. Although I suspect that, in the case of SWAT Kats, it was just something that the artist thought looked cool. The reasoning in question is that, since your aerodynamic control surfaces are useless in space, you get more maneuverability if you place your engines in a symmetric pattern far away from the center of mass of the ship. When you add in some engineering concerns, the best alternatives work out to be three engines in a "Y" formation, or four engines in a big plus sign or a big "X" (as used by both Starfuries and the TurboKat). > have managed to find holes in them. Yet given the quality of the > stories *and* the animation, *especially* compared to H-B's earlier > work, the Kats were definitely an improvement over what H-B put out > in the 70s and 80s. That sort of thing is often the sign of a producer or creator who _wants_ to produce a cartoon show that's for a broad audience, but is limited to kiddee stuff by his bosses who mostly want to sell toys. Witness "The Real Ghostbusters" and the battles JMS had with the DIC executives who wanted it dumbed down. You generally have to end up slipping in bits to entertain adults without the network execs noticing. Daniel Pawtowski dpawtows@vt.edu ------------------------------ From: Jonathan Higa Date: Wed, 2 Oct 96 00:57:35 HST Subject: physics I laughed when I heard "speed of heat" the first time. Well, since we can rule out the interpretation as "speed of light," we can try to interpret it as some measure of transfer of kinetic energy via molecular collisions. Unfortunately, that doesn't have a fixed speed. Relative temperature changes depend, for example, on the heat capacity of the substances involved. Or if you want a more statistical-mechanical approach, even the average molecular speed of a gas depends on its molecular mass. "Speed of heat" is surely little more than a toony term. Razor's right about the concept of a laser. The principle involved is the same one applied in fluorescent bulbs -- visible photon emission by the quantized release of energy from excited atoms. That is, you hit a specific substance with energy and it glows a certain color. In fluorescent lights, the energy source is merely electrical. I'm asking around, not well versed in lasers myself, for details on modern laser components. Eh, enough science already. Back to the show! - -- Jonathan Higa ------------------------------ From: Paul Kemner Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:14:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Mrowr? (Lasers) > ...the difference between electromagnetic radiation (light, >radio waves, etc.) and ionizing radiation (alpha, beta, gamma, etc.). that's why I said radioactive (i.e. ionizing) =^^= > Is the big gnarly thing Zed blows up the mountain with supposed to >be an x-laser? (Kewel 'splosion wasn't it?) I think animators just throw >in lasers most of the time 'cause they look better than ordinary ordnance. I would guess x-ray or particle beam of some kind. The other reason for putting lasers on spaceships and mecha (besides them looking hi-tek) is mass. Assuming that you have a way to generate almost infinite power with very little mass (oops! that may be a hole right there!) you can blast away and make big kabooms without having your mecha sink into the dirt. You don't have to dedicate so much interior room to ammo storage. On a somewhat related topic, weren't the kats lucky that Mutilor wasn't very clever? If I wanted to steal water from kat planet, and had a kickin spacecraft, I'd get some rocks headed for the planet at a high fraction of c, sit back, and let them do their work. Oh, it might boil off the top few meters of ocean, but you don't have to deal with any objections from the indigs! =^^= ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:53:42 +0800 Subject: Re: Musical Kats? While we are on the thread of the SWAT Kats version of "Peter and the Wolf", here's some of my opinion on the instruments. Dana Uehara: >I keep thinking that a *kazoo* would fit Madkat more than anything else. Agreed. Definitely a kazoo, or any kind of instruments that suggest malavolent, chaotic, mischevious forces. Lt. Steel is an accordion. He's loud and annoying. > As I said I chose the tuba mainly for T-Bone because of the driving > ability it has, and the tuba can exert a lot of raw power when it needs > too, like a tympani can. I have first hand experience on this because > in case you haven't figured it out yet... I play a TUBA!!!! I don't know about a tuba for T-Bone, but a tuba can be played to represent laziness and sluggishness like the theme of Jabba The Hutt in "Return of the Jedi". But if the music is written to suggest power, I'm all for it! The instrument for Razor should suggest intelligence, agility and kindness, but I can't think of any instruments. Violin perhaps? I'm thinking in terms of music, not instruments. So my remarks may seem off-topic. However, I did hear some themes written specifically for moods in SWAT Kats: - - The chase theme earlier in the episode of "The Giant Bacteria" - - The buddy-rivalry theme of the SWAT Kats in "The Wrath of DK" (The Chilli-Chomping Contest) and "Pastmaster Always Ring Twice" (The 5-Gs Challenge). - - The Razor-&-Queen-Callista love theme in "Bride of Pastmaster", just before T-Bone interrupted asking Razor for help in the repairs. - - The Metallikats Theme, used every time when they appear. Techno music that sounds like metals hitting against something. I dunno but I prefer the music of SK:The Movie be kind of Star-Wars-ish where everyone and every scene has their own theme music to suit. Later! ************JULIAN HO < julianho@singnet.com.sg >************ "Pain is an illusion. An illusion that really, really hurts!" - Grim Coming soon, my own web page! (Yeah! It seems like forever, doesn't it?!) ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:02:22 +0800 Subject: Re: Mrowr? Dana Uehara: > Picking nits: what exactly *is* the "speed of heat"? Don't know exactly what Razor is saying. Is he referring to the speed of heat (If so, how fast is the speed of heat anyway? In terms of Mach, I mean.) or referring that they have reached the speed where the TurboKat's outer layers has become so hot that anything that touches them will burst into flames. > If that's an eight-mile trip (assuming Felina > makes that comment "eight miles and closing" shortly after leaving > Enforcer HQ), that's a hell of a distance to swim... although, as I > later noticed, we *do* see the remaining jet ski missile parked in > the water as T-Bone pulls his pal to the surface. Maybe, T-Bone pluck his courage and actually swims! > AJ: Probably was aimed at little kids, but from what the Tremblays > made it into, I think it aims for all age groups. "The Giant Bacteria" definitely is PG-rated. Sort of like the Might Max episode on Zombies, some scenes with the Zombie bug and Max's mom were snipped off when that episode is shown in Singapore. > If, in the wildest sense of the imagination, the Kats do get revived, > should we push for T-Bone and Razor plushies? ;-) If the SK Plushies do come out, I'm gonna hold on to them all day. Think "Furry". Later! ************JULIAN HO < julianho@singnet.com.sg >************ "Pain is an illusion. An illusion that really, really hurts!" - Grim Coming soon, my own web page! (Yeah! It seems like forever, doesn't it?!) ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:33:04 +0800 Subject: Re: Mrowr? (Lasers) > Is the big gnarly thing Zed blows up the mountain with supposed > to be an x-laser? (Kewel 'splosion wasn't it?) I think animators > just throw in lasers most of the time 'cause they look better than > ordinary ordnance. Hmm, wonder why the Enforcers never used that laser against Z.E.D in the first place. It would have solve everything without killing any organic living things, besides destroying the Metallikats that is. I prefer to think of the name Zed as Z.E.D. as it sounds more high-tech. Can anyone expand the acronym? Later! ************JULIAN HO < julianho@singnet.com.sg >************ "Pain is an illusion. An illusion that really, really hurts!" - Grim Coming soon, my own web page! (Yeah! It seems like forever, doesn't it?!) ------------------------------ From: Ed Rudnicki Date: Wed, 2 Oct 96 10:44:50 EDT Subject: Re: Lasers >This ain't real on topic... but the reasons that cartoons use lasers is >so that children can readily reproduce the violence seen in the cartoon. Methinks you've been sopping up too much of the media's "kids and guns" bullshit. The real, and rather obvious reason is purely visual: you can see the laser as it is projected toward the target and hits it, usually with spectacular results. Conventional firearms are far less dramatic, in that one doesn't see the projectile in flight and it doesn't really do much when it hits (don't believe what Hollywood shows you here either :). Of course real-world lasers aren't usually visible, or dramatic, but 'toon lasers always are :) > Well there it is. I think I may have watched the Gargoyles >episode Deadly Force too much...... Naah, that was pretty balanced. But didja notice that in Gargs the bad guys always use some sort of beam weapons, while the good guys don't..... Ed ------------------------------ From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Planetary bombardment (Was: Mrowr (Lasers)) > If I wanted to steal water from kat planet, and had a kickin > spacecraft, I'd get some rocks headed for the planet at a high fraction of > c, sit back, and let them do their work. Oh, it might boil off the top few > meters of ocean, but you don't have to deal with any objections from > the indigs! Admittedly, Mutilor did seem to suffer from a severe case of Supervillian Overconfidence, I'm not sure he was capable of _admitting_ that a non-spacefaring race could even pose a threat to him. If he was at all worried, he could've eliminated most of the risk by, say, hovering over the middle of the largest ocean instead of a couple hundred yards off MKC Beach. It would have taken hours to days for anybody to even _find_ him once water levels started dropping, and more hours for jets to reach him. And it certainly seemed that he only needed about half a day to complete the entire job. Given the personality as shown, he likely decided to _deliberately_ hover near a major population center because his Marauder pilots felt like target practice, and deliberately avoided a preemptive strike (say, taking out the Enforcer runways with his mega-beam). He _wanted_ an aerial duel. While we're picking nits with that episode, I suppose we can also wonder why the deepest part of the ocean is just off MKC, and the oceans all have a nice drainage path to that spot (he did say he was getting *ALL* the water). Then there's the question of what became of the planet's sea life duing the couple hours that were spent waterless, did the Aquian Tech bottle up the kelp, fish, and whales, too? :-) :-) Daniel Pawtowski dpawtows@vt.edu ------------------------------ From: Ed Rudnicki Date: Wed, 2 Oct 96 13:13:49 EDT Subject: Re: Mrowr? >If, in the wildest sense of the imagination, the Kats do get revived, >should we push for T-Bone and Razor plushies? ;-) What, no Callie plush??? ;) Ed ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:33:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: physics Forget all the physics stuff, just remember this joke: Q: What is faster, hot or cold? A: Hot, because you can catch a cold =^_^= (c) 1996 Paul Kemner used w/o permission :) Words to live by: "Must not fear, fear is the mind killer, fear is the - ------------------| thought that brings total obvlivion!"- Peter Puppy A.J. Freda | "Eat dirt, everybody in the vincinity!!!" -EWJ ah518@traverse. | "Despite my appearances, I am not Evil the Cat in a lib.mi.us | clever disguise." - Evil the Cat, at EWJ's door "Tails" on IRC | - ------------------| ------------------------------ From: kaychang@eden.com (CrystalSkye) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:46:39 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Musical Kats? >While we are on the thread of the SWAT Kats version of "Peter and the >Wolf", here's some of my opinion on the instruments. Peter and the Wolf?... Ahahaha, I remember music class in 4th grade, where the teachers made us lie on the floors with our eyes closed as we listened; later we had to "identify as many instruments as you can." :P >Dana Uehara: >>I keep thinking that a *kazoo* would fit Madkat more than anything else. > >Agreed. Definitely a kazoo, or any kind of instruments that suggest >malavolent, chaotic, mischevious forces. Hmm... maybe a kazoo (Freakazoo!) or maybe a synthesizer, that plays all sorts of honky-tonk? >Lt. Steel is an accordion. He's loud and annoying. Oh, yes, I like it! :) >> As I said I chose the tuba mainly for T-Bone because of the driving >> ability it has, and the tuba can exert a lot of raw power when it needs >> too, like a tympani can. > >I don't know about a tuba for T-Bone, but a tuba can be played to represent >laziness and sluggishness like the theme of Jabba The Hutt in "Return of >the Jedi". But if the music is written to suggest power, I'm all for it! Mmmm... tuba... That's a problem, I'm in *orchestra* with no brass... that's for the band... (Ahhh, no! I'm hearing "Louie, Louie" again!) I dunno... maybe a duet or even a trio of instruments would work better for you... >The instrument for Razor should suggest intelligence, agility and kindness, >but I can't think of any instruments. Violin perhaps? Oh yeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeah!!! (No prizes for guessing what *I* play, huh? ;)) Another Sailor Moon Reference: Kaiou Michiru, Sailor Neptune, plays the violin. And, basically, she's a lot like Razor/Jake in some ways--very smart, somewhat quiet, and (I don't know if this goes for Jake) into the arts. >I'm thinking in terms of music, not instruments. So my remarks may seem >off-topic. >However, I did hear some themes written specifically for moods in SWAT >Kats: >- The chase theme earlier in the episode of "The Giant Bacteria" >- The buddy-rivalry theme of the SWAT Kats in "The Wrath of DK" (The >Chilli-Chomping Contest) and "Pastmaster Always Ring Twice" (The 5-Gs >Challenge). Ooooh, those were two of my favs! Funny! ;D >- The Razor-&-Queen-Callista love theme in "Bride of Pastmaster", just >before T-Bone interrupted asking Razor for help in the repairs. Oh yeah, another fav... "G'night, m'Queen," in a real sarcastic way! >- The Metallikats Theme, used every time when they appear. Techno music >that sounds like metals hitting against something. I haven't watched any eps for a while (before you try to kill me, let me tell you it's not entirely my fault. The teachers give us too much homework!!) >I dunno but I prefer the music of SK:The Movie be kind of Star-Wars-ish >where everyone and every scene has their own theme music to suit. Yeah... and everyone has their own theme! (Or would that be too much to ask?) Terra Chang *~*~* Insanity is a playground for the unimaginitive. *~*~* CrystalSkye's Personal Universe! GO SEE IT! ;) http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/6315/index.html ------------------------------ From: "Raphael" Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:15:04 +0000 Subject: Re: Episode guides and body temperature > Here's a trivia question for all you other kats- One episode shows a movie > theater with zillions of kat movies in it- Which ep was it, and what kat > movie titles could you make out? Do you need a hint to find the ep? > =^^= Paul, not only do I need a hint....I might even need the episode. Erin (who's been lurking again-yep, I look a right lurker....) *******************istr2198@fox.nstn.ca*********************************** "This don't be one of my better days, I guarantee." ****************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: owner-kats Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:09:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [none] Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:08:33 -0600 X-Sender: sproatne@utah-inter.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: "H@rd Drive" Subject: When Strikes Mutilor Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:08:33 -0600 Message-ID: <19961003010832239.AAA558@provo_10.utah-inter.net> Sender: owner-kats Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats' in the message body I finally saw an SK ep on one of my dusty tapes buried for months. It was When Strikes Mutilor... Except for the animation and soundtrack, it sucked! Since this ep is the only reference I have right now, I must ask: How good was WSM compared to other eps? Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 21:07:43 -0400 Subject: Physics and language Jonathan Higa wrote: > I laughed when I heard "speed of heat" the first time. Well, since we can > rule out the interpretation as "speed of light," we can try to interpret it > as some measure of transfer of kinetic energy via molecular collisions. This is crap. As any schoolchild knows, heat is a physical substance known to learned men as "phlogiston"; this substance flows amongst the atoms of every object and entity. It has a finite viscosity, though its mass is known to be negative, and as it is capable of travel from one solid object to another in contact therewith, or through the air by riding upon micro- scopic dust particles, the "speed of heat" is certainly a measurable value. (kids, don't try this at home) As for languages, I couldn't help being somewhat amused by the discussion. We are all dedicated fans, but we must not become irrational. It is only natural that the kats would speak "English" and have "Anglo" sounding names. That is its target audience. If it were made in Japan, they would have Japanese names and they would speak Japanese. So let us not try to derive any great meaning or universal mystery out of a simple marketing technique. - ---- Dr. Samuel Konway Senior Crotchety Old Chemist Avid Therapeutics Philadelphia, PA flogistn@vivanet.com ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Claws 'n' things Assorted replies to listmail: Ed: Methinks you've been sopping up too much of the media's "kids and guns" bullshit. Toon violence, especially in the Kats series, is (and has been) a controversial topic for years. Usually, depending on the kid's age, s/he can tell if certain types of violence (i.e., Toon Physics) is real or isn't. Turner probably canned the Kats because the violence shown there was perhaps too realistic for its own good (maybe even too close to what we see every day on the news? ). One comment I'll bring up here that I brought up some time ago on the old Kats list was that if you notice the specific weaponry the SWAT Kats carry, most (but not all) of those weapons are designed to cripple or disable their opponents, but *not* destroy or seriously injure them. Daniel: Mutilor did seem to suffer from a severe case of Supervillian Overconfidence. Not to mention he was also possessed by Lieutenant Worf, right down to the "it is so refreshing to clash with *true warriors*" line, as a friend pointed out to me. Yet Supervillain Overconfidence isn't anything new to the Kats series, or to adventure series in general. We've seen this with Megakat City's other villains, along with a healthy dose of what I call a plot cliche: namely, the villain explains what he's doing, likely so that the younger (target) viewers can understand the episode. Noah: I must ask: How good was WSM compared to other eps? I'd say it was about par for the series, perhaps one of the not-as-good- but-could-have-been-better episodes. For the most part, every episode (except the SKIQ one) has the Kats battling either a villain or a monster. In fact, this even gets alluded to in one episode ("Unlikely Alloys," if I remember right), where the dialogue is: T-Bone: "Crud! What *is* that thing?" Razor: "Giant monster of the week?" ... which now leaves the question -- if the Kats weren't that great, except for the animation and the music, then why has the show's popularity grown so that the kats have their own newsgroup and mailing list, which have survived for quite some time after the series has been canned? Good question. I don't have a good answer. ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: October Kat birthdays Was looking over the list of birthdays that people had submitted to me and noticed that today is Matt Weber's birthday. Happy birthday, dude! Here are a few other October Kat birthdays, from among the responses I've received so far: Ryan Kelley: October 8 Terra Chang: October 12 Dave Huang: October 31 ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:09:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: October Kat birthdays Dana Uehara writes: > Was looking over the list of birthdays that people had submitted to > me and noticed that today is Matt Weber's birthday. > Happy birthday, dude! Grr. Seems as though I screwed up here -- been doing that a *lot* lately. :-P Matt's birthday was *yesterday* (October 1). Sorry for the mixup. - -- Razor, who really could use some anti-distemper medication right about now... ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:21:43 -0600 Subject: Re: Claws 'n' things At 06:48 PM 10/2/96 -0700, Dana Uehara wrote: >if the Kats weren't that great, >except for the animation and the music, then why has the show's popularity >grown so that the kats have their own newsgroup and mailing list, which >have survived for quite some time after the series has been canned? > Good question. I don't have a good answer. I think people still enjoy SK because when they watch it, they see great potential in its formula. The results of this are on Edo's page. ^_^ Maybe NOT watching the show for more than a year was good thing. I couldn' remember all the little things that bothered me (logic holes, bad dialogue, etc.), only the great story, animation and good-natured heavy metal music. My imagination started to run wild, especially after I started to miss Cry Turmoil. Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:18:04 -0700 Subject: Re: SWAT Kats, non-adult cartoon? >>Well, is it? If you mean adult cartoon as in.... ahem, "adult" cartoon, no, >>I don't think that SWAT Kats is an adult cartoon. > >Same here. I'm I the only one here who takes SK as if it were real life? (i.e. everything in real life applies, and much more) >Anyway, if it was what most people would deem "adult," I doubt a >certain person *THAT* you think is *HUMAN*?! what kind of obsessed fan are you??? ;) >-who-we-all-know-and-hate-for-obvious-reasons Okay, so what's the bad side of him? (^3 >>SWAT Kats seem to attracted fans from all age groups, although that maybe >>it was originaly aimed at kids, the explosion go beyond the target range. >(The only other one I can think of at the moment is Sailor Moon.) AWW! I wanna see that show! I need to say SOMETHING about SM if a supposed half my web page is SUPPOSED to be SM! I guess I'm incurable about this kind of thing and I really don't care. >I can be considered adult by my way of thinking! I could be in more ways in one. I hate how my mind limits *nothing* from entering it! >BTW--when is the next listperson's birthday? el 8 de octubre, the 8th of October >Mine's October 12--eek! I'll be >13 in about 1 week! I've calculated my own birthday myself, and er... I think you're off... wait! You said about a week! Forget it! >Insanity is a playground for the unimaginitive. Then why am I glued to the monkeybars in this little "unimaginative" place? >CrystalSkye's Personal Universe! GO SEE IT! ;) I've been caught once this week, so I'm NOT going to try to break a rule a-... What am I saying?! I'm doing that right now! Reports! UGH I HATE 'EM!!!!!!!!!!!!! ____________________________________________________________________________ Esteban (Eh STAY bon) "friends to the anti-SK Extremist" Kelley SK Extremist, Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan, world's first brown haired blonde bimbo http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ____________________________________________________________________________ tED' tURNOVOR's E-mail: ted.turner@turner.com ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:17:51 -0700 Subject: Re: Kats language >That is one point that we haven't thought of, the kats could be speaking in >another different languange. Their mouths don't synchronize with what they're saying! It's fairly obvious in any of those few SK eps with someone speaking and yo can see them speaking!! :) >>Many of the characters' names are of Anglo-Norman origin (or structure). >Maybe the names also got translated. Proper nouns are said the same no matter how you translate something example: Churro (Mexican), Enchilada (Mexican), Quesadilla (Mexican), Nintendo (Japanese), Wataru (Japanese), tED (Apelike sub-species of the human race)... whoops! That's notta proper noun, but you get the idea. ____________________________________________________________________________ Esteban (Eh STAY bon) "friends to the anti-SK Extremist" Kelley SK Extremist, Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan, world's first brown haired blonde bimbo http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ____________________________________________________________________________ tED' tURNOVOR's E-mail: ted.turner@turner.com ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #34 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n035' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #35 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Friday, 4 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 035 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julian Ho" Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 22:30:19 +0800 Subject: Re: Musical Kats? > >I don't know about a tuba for T-Bone. > > I dunno... maybe a duet or even a trio of instruments would work better > for you... Oh, I don't know but how about a trumpet? If played real fast, it will suggest power and action. If played very slow, it may suggest reflection or sadness. I finally got the idea that Mayor Manx should be ... the Tuba! The tuba can sound pompous sometimes and suitable for comical effects. Om-Paw-paw ! Om-Paw-paw ! > >I dunno but I prefer the music of SK:The Movie be kind of Star-Wars-ish > >where everyone and every scene has their own theme music to suit. > > Yeah... and everyone has their own theme! (Or would that be too much to ask?) Being Star-Wars-ish, I feel that DarkKat can be represented by any instruments with a very heavy bass, or have a church choir chorus. The chorus should suggest evil like the chorus used for The Emperor in Return of The Jedi. Am I going off-topic here? Later! ************JULIAN HO < julianho@singnet.com.sg >************ |\_/| SWAT ||Kats: The Radical Squadron \ / IS FUREVER !! V T-Bone: "Crud! What *is* that thing?" Razor: "Giant monster of the week?" Honor the SWAT Kats Code 1.0 ! CR34/CT34 A++ D+ M- P+++ T++++ W RLU a20 cn+++ d+ e+ f- h** i++ p* sm Zm Coming soon, my own web page! (Yeah! It seems like forever, doesn't it?!) ------------------------------ From: Jesus Fernandez Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 17:39:18 -0500 Subject: SKU is going down for a few. The SWAT Kats Ultraplex is going through super-hyper-rennovation.. and it'll go down now.. that means.. EVERYTHING GOES BYE BYE! (except the fanfics..) You won't even reckonize it when I'm done.. BTW, Ryan where do you live.. I thought I heard your name over the announcements one day.. oh well must be another one of my SKCON wishes again.. - -JF P.s: WHAT happened to Maxie's site? ------------------------------ From: packrat@magicbus.com Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:59:18 -0500 Subject: assorted stuff Violence and TV: I did a year-long report on cartoon violence and kids, and while I don't like to say so and I am not pushing censoring cartoons by any means, there was a correlation. What I said about using lasers so kids can't reproduce the violence was taken by an article by the producer of Gargoyles who said this..... Okay I'll be on topic now. Musical Kats: Hmmm I guess kno one has the appreciation for the power of the tuba such as I do..... Trust me folks Tuba is best for T-Bone. And tubas do exist in orchestras! I'm in the orchestra on a tuba! Final note: Do Kats get fleas? T-Bone "Ugh the bus is screwed up!" - Packrat ------------------------------ From: mweb Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 18:26:44 -0400 Subject: Re: Asst. Bezoars/Mutation City ...a few items cut out... >1. Where *was* everybody? What was Callie the only one to get stuck? >*C'mon*, a megatropolis has got to have people. Is NYC's population ever >under a few million people? Well, at the beginning of the ep. Callie was in her casual clothes, which might indicate is was a holiday of some sort. I've only ever saw her in the jogging outfit on either a weekend (Origin of Dr. Viper) or a holiday as may be the case in Mutation City. ____________________________________________________ mweb@mich.com aka "Purrcy" http://www.mich.com/~mweb ------------------------------ From: mweb Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 18:26:45 -0400 Subject: Physics & Lasers Dr. Conway wrote: >to another in contact therewith, or through the air by riding upon micro- >scopic dust particles, the "speed of heat" is certainly a measurable >value. LOL! "Microscopic dust particles," eh? Heh. I took the meaning of "speed of heat" to be the point at which the speed of the Turbokat is so great that it's friction with the atmosphere (taken at an average kPa of pressure) causes a significant rise in the temperature of the skin of the Turbokat. Much like the heat generated when the Space Shuttle re-enters the atmosphere. Jonathan Higa wrote: >Razor's right about the concept of a laser. The principle involved is the >same one applied in fluorescent bulbs -- visible photon emission by the >quantized release of energy from excited atoms. That is, you hit a specific >substance with energy and it glows a certain color. In fluorescent lights, >the energy source is merely electrical. I'm asking around, not well versed >in lasers myself, for details on modern laser components. That's a pretty good analogy to the workings of a laser. The excited atoms release a photon when returning to their normal state. The photons are "trapped" between 2 reflective surfaces, 1 of which is partially transmissive (where the light comes out). As the photons bounce back-and-forth, they become coherent (all the energy waves aligned), which gives the laser its ability to be pin-point at great distances. The substance (ruby rod, Helium-Neon, Carbon Dioxide, etc.) the photons are "trapped" in gives the laser beam its color. But remember that energy in must equal energy out. The only way a giant laser will work is if you have a great deal of energy to power it. For instance, the SDI program might have used an X-ray laser to destroy whatever. The power source would have been a "controlled" nuclear explosion, in which the radiation release would give a giant burst of power but also destroy the entire thing in the process. AHHH!! This is getting way off topic! Suffice it to say that cartoon physics applies in the Kats universe! ____________________________________________________ mweb@mich.com aka "Purrcy" http://www.mich.com/~mweb ------------------------------ From: Zax Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:32:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Mrowr? On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Ed Rudnicki wrote: > >If, in the wildest sense of the imagination, the Kats do get revived, > >should we push for T-Bone and Razor plushies? ;-) > > What, no Callie plush??? ;) (With, or without removable clothes) ________________________________________________________________________ Commander Zax ------------------------------ From: Zax Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:43:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Favorite SK episodes Submitted for your approval, favorite SK episodes. 1. Bright and shining future. 2. Dark side of the Swat Kats, (love mirror episodes) 3. Metal Urgency 4. Mutation City 5. Katastrophie 6. Bride of the PastMaster 7. Destructive Nature 8. Enter the Madkat 9. Ghost Pilot 10. The CI-Kata ________________________________________________________________________ Commander Zax ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:49:05 -0700 Subject: Re: Musical Kats? >>>I keep thinking that a *kazoo* would fit Madkat more than anything else. >Hmm... maybe a kazoo (Freakazoo!) or maybe a synthesizer, that plays all >sorts of honky-tonk? The honky-tonk is just plain annoying! Sorry, but I've never heard such an annoying instrument, with the exception of the "Tower Bells". >>Lt. Steel is an accordion. He's loud and annoying. > >Oh, yes, I like it! :) Try the "Tower Bells"! If you don't know what they sound like, and you've got a sound Balster 16 with Vibra (Something) or below, set your patch map (Located in the Midi mapper) to "Prot/1 Prec." and you'll hear that very loud and very annoying instrament banging out clashing bass chords drowning out the rest of the music! >>The instrument for Razor should suggest intelligence, agility and kindness, >>but I can't think of any instruments. Violin perhaps? No, something more aggressive, but not as aggressive as what T-Bone would use. >Oh yeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeahyeah!!! (No prizes for guessing what *I* play, >huh? ;)) I see. I play keyboard (and have a weird interpretation of the 2nd season opening), but by ear and rather hypnotically. >Oh yeah, another fav... "G'night, m'Queen," in a real sarcastic way! I think Razor had that coming! :) But then people's imnds get warped to an extreme when love gets involved. (i.e. ME! >I haven't watched any eps for a while (before you try to kill me, let me >tell you it's not entirely my fault. The teachers give us too much homework!!) Ditto! I havn't even been able to finish one ep in the past year! (Summer, I had an excuse!!) >>I dunno but I prefer the music of SK:The Movie be kind of Star-Wars-ish No!! Play the Second season music normally until a few chords after the alarm goes off, then play it reversed from the end and halfway through convert it to an A-ko song (the one where B-ko's fighting the subsand cruser in the "giant toilet") then at the end convert it to the title chords of Project A-ko 5 (Vs Battle One Grey Side) show the title, in a really cool way, and music ends. I've done this in my mind and it sounds really cool. :) (IMHO I think a Star Warsish opening would be a bore!) ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan Esteban (Eh STAY bon) "friends to the anti-SK Extremist" Kelley SK Extremist, Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan, world's first brown haired blonde bimbo http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ____________________________________________________________________________ tED' tURNOVOR's E-mail: ted.turner@turner.com ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 18:53:10 -0700 Subject: Re: >I finally saw an SK ep on one of my dusty tapes buried for months. I've did that a week ago. I couldn't finish the ep! The animation looks much different to me... Kinda an abstract anime which I find really cool! >When Strikes Mutilor... Except for the animation and soundtrack, it sucked! TRAITOR! >Since this ep is the only reference I have right now, I must ask: How good >was WSM compared to other eps? I found it kinda madiocre. I liked Deadly Pyramid, Cry Turmoil, and Katastrophie. ____________________________________________________________________________ Esteban (Eh STAY bon) "friends to the anti-SK Extremist" Kelley SK Extremist, Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan, world's first brown haired blonde bimbo http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ____________________________________________________________________________ tED' tURNOVOR's E-mail: ted.turner@turner.com ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 22:34:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Laser shots... Here's part of a message that another list member (Jon Higa) sent me. I'm passing it along to the list, along with a few comments of my own. > Found enough details on lasers. This style of description was inspired by a > certain doctor... > > An argon laser is like a frat house party. The gas atoms are crowded in the > house, kegs of electrical juice ready. They recklessly imbibe, growing > rowdy and "excited." The new fish can't hold their own and soon begin to > boot; the senior members relieve themselves nanoseconds later as the > moonshine passes through. The crystal, not porcelain, thrones (and portions > of the floor and walls) collect a veritable spectrum of atomic excretions. > They collimate and flush the mess out a small aperture. Yes, that bright > stream we see is little more than atomic piss and vomit.... ;) Imagine something like *this* being taught in the Kats' schools! (Then again, they likely study the biological processes of how hairballs form, so something like this might not faze them. ;-) ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 21:19:27 -0600 Subject: Re: Musical Kats? At 10:30 PM 10/3/96 +0800, Julian Ho wrote: >Being Star-Wars-ish, I feel that DarkKat can be represented by any >instruments with a very heavy bass, or have a church choir chorus. The >chorus should suggest evil like the chorus used for The Emperor in Return >of The Jedi. ACH! What I can I do to get away from Star Wars or Star Trek in this country?! When I think of music for different characters, I don' get into "What ORCHESTRAL instrument do they play?". The music I think of is usually jazz, rhythm and blues, traditional Irish/Welsh music, acoustic guitar music, heavy metal (including the SK themes) and fast dance music (techno). When I think of an instrument that best suits T-Bone or Viper, I think of heavy metal played by electric guitars. I don' know why it seems to fit for Viper, but it represent's T-Bone's strength and power. (Might have something to do with his muscular build and his tight threads.) The alto sax seems to fit best for Razor; I don' know why. I like Dark Kat. He seems to have a modest prominence to him, if that makes any sense. The instrument that fits him best would be the acoustic guitar playing soft, sad music. Pastmaster's instrument seems to be drowned, but when I imagine him in a more peaceful state, I get a sweet flute... I haven't been able to picture the RIGHT instruments for the other characters, though I think that H@rd Drive's would be the violin, and that Manx's would be the uillean pipe. No characters in my mind would ever be represented by piano. I've been playing piano for nine years, to the point where I think of it as too generic. Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: Yvonne Bennett Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 23:50:20 -0400 Subject: Re: assorted stuff At 04:59 PM 10/3/96 -0500, packrat@magicbus.com wrote: > >Final note: >Do Kats get fleas? *erk* hmmm... (picturing any Kat trying to scratch behind ear with hind leg....) Maybe, but I guess they'd use their hands to deal with it. Being anthropomorphic doesn't help. :/ (flea spray?) - -- Yvonne Bennett __/^-^\__ *Miya!* | "Did I mention I have 15 wild badgers living in catbunny@nrv.net | my trousers?" -Marcus (B5) ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #35 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n036' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #36 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Saturday, 5 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 036 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 06:15:02 -0400 Subject: Kats and fleas It is perfectly reasonable to assume that kats, like any other creature, will suffer from parasites, particular in that forest of fur. It is also logical to assume that they will have everyday methods to control such parasites, even as we ourselves use dandruff shampoo and the like. Now, no further speculation. Are there any actual references to fleas in the series? - ----- Dr. Samuel Konway Senior Staff Khemist Avid Therapeutics Furrydelphia, PA flogistn@vivanet.com ------------------------------ From: Simon Leet Wai Leong Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 20:15:37 +0800 Subject: Musical Kats? At 04:59 PM 10/3/96 -0500, you wrote: >Musical Kats: >Hmmm I guess kno one has the appreciation for the power of the tuba such >as I do..... Trust me folks Tuba is best for T-Bone. And tubas do >exist in orchestras! I'm in the orchestra on a tuba! After all this chatter, I'm surprised I don't seem to recall anyone mentioning the electric guitar for T-Bone ... (Either that or I lost track of this whole thread :) ...) And I agree with whoever said that the synthesizer suited Razor (someone did say that right?) >Fleas: >Do Kats get fleas? Probably! Hey, humans get lice and all, so it's probably not much of a stretch although most Kats are probably too fastidious to have fleaas ... - -Simon Leet :) "Stop auditioning Pinky, nobody's hiring village idiots anymore." - The Brain in response to another no-brainer by Pinky. ------------------------------ From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 07:35:37 -0700 Subject: Who's In Charge Now ? I Just Read An Artical In TV Guide That Makes Me Wooried About The Future Of SWAT Kats On TV - The Artical In Question Is In The Oct. 5 - 11 Issue On Page 45 (Please Read It As I Do Not Wish To Post It Here !) There's This Annoying Photo At The Top With Some Unidentified Sub-speices Of Ape Smiling (SICK - SICK - SICK) At The Camera Person ! Anyhow After Reading This (Don't Worry We'll Still Be Here When You've Read It !) I Wonder Who's In Charge Now ? Is WB In Charge Or Is HE In Charge, Don't Worry You All Know Who I'm Taking About ! On A Lighter Note, Someone Said How Can They Get Away From Star Wars / Star Trek ! Well, You Would Have To Move To A Galaxy Far, Far Away In Space, The Final Frontier =) Pinky & The Brain Crossover Into SWAT Kats ? I Don't Think It Would Work, However The Kats Would Get A Kick Out Of The Show, I'm Shure Of It ! Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ Two Posts In 1 Week, I Must Be Nutz ! Same Old Same Old =) - --------------------------------------------------- SWAT Kats : The Radical Squadron : Kode Version 1.0 CR/CT8 A++ D+ M++ P++ T W RLAT a t C++dw d++ e* f h i+++wk p* sm Zm http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm - - OR - http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 21:20:09 +0800 Subject: Assorted Stuff... ( aka "Bizarre Bezoars") Just kidding, it's only a misleading Subject Title. ;-) Only some parts are brows-raiser. H@rd Drive wrote: > No characters in my mind would ever be represented by piano. How about Callie? mweb wrote: > Well, at the beginning of the ep. Callie was in her casual clothes, which > might indicate is was a holiday of some sort. I've only ever saw her in > the jogging outfit on either a weekend (Origin of Dr. Viper) or a holiday as > may be the case in Mutation City. This reasoning fits perfectly. Now why I didn't I think of that! (Slaps forehead) Maybe I'm thinking on the macabre side of SK... (Play spooky music here.) packrat@magicbus.com wrote: >Do Kats get fleas? Possible. No one would ever ask a Kat if he / she has fleas. It will be impolite and embarassing. Just like asking a Human if he / she has dandruffs... Perhaps, flea powder and flea collars are daily hygeine necesseties in the Kat's world. Vaseline could probably a required item in the Kat's First-Aid kit, just in case someone was choking from bezoars... Some "bizarre" SK questions: - - I remember distinctly that in one of the episodes the TurboKat has lasers coming out from its side, can anyone confirm this? - - Is the Macrowave Blasters connected to a large generator as a power source. It seems to me that they are connected directly to the TurboSkis. *Sigh!* This is definitely one of my lamest posting. Later! ************JULIAN HO < julianho@singnet.com.sg >************ |\_/| SWAT ||Kats: The Radical Squadron \ / IS FUREVER !! V T-Bone: "Crud! What *is* that thing?" Razor: "Giant monster of the week?" Honor the SWAT Kats Code 1.0 ! CR34/CT34 A++ D+ M- P+++ T++++ W RLU a20 cn+++ d+ e+ f- h** i++ p* sm Zm Coming soon, my own web page! (Yeah! It seems like forever, doesn't it?!) ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 20:14:49 -0700 Subject: Re: Musical Kats? >>Being Star-Wars-ish, I feel that DarkKat can be represented by any >>instruments with a very heavy bass, or have a church choir chorus. The >>chorus should suggest evil like the chorus used for The Emperor in Return >>of The Jedi. > >ACH! What I can I do to get away from Star Wars or Star Trek in this >country?! Join the club! "It's time for Monty Python's Flying Circus!"... "What are examples of foreplay?"... "Where is the Grail?"... "We are the Knights who say Ni! We demand a sacrafice. ... We want a shrubbery! ... It's a very nice shrubbary. However we are no longer the Knights who say Ni. We are now the knights who say Echi Echi Echi be bop pit tang, woop! We want, another shrubbery! And, you must chop down the tallest tree in the forest, WITH a herring! " >When I think of an instrument that best suits T-Bone or Viper, I think of >heavy metal played by electric guitars. Yeah, the power hungry instruments are most obvious for those two, especially T-Bone IMHO. >I don' know why it seems to fit for >Viper, but it represent's T-Bone's strength and power. Uh huh! >The alto sax seems to fit best for Razor; I don' know why. I've always thought Razor would seem best with one of those!! >I like Dark Kat. He seems to have a modest prominence to him, if that makes >any sense. Oh it does. You should hear my profiles! >The instrument that fits him best would be the acoustic guitar >playing soft, sad music. The pipe organ would be kinda cool! >Pastmaster's instrument seems to be drowned, but when I imagine him in a >more peaceful state, I get a sweet flute... His caring and compassionate side? :) I've noticed that within him! I thought no one else ever saw that. >I haven't been able to picture the RIGHT instruments for the other >characters, though I think that H@rd Drive's would be the violin, I'd think keyboard. >and that Manx's would be the uillean pipe. Obviously, something wimpy, slightly annoying and always in the way. >No characters in my mind would ever be represented by piano. I know! Too vanilla! (but if someone out there likes plain [or the extra plain], then forget what I said!) ____________________________________________________________________________ Esteban (Eh STAY bon) "friends to the anti-SK Extremist" Kelley SK Extremist, Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan, world's first brown haired blonde bimbo http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ____________________________________________________________________________ tED' tURNOVOR's E-mail: ted.turner@turner.com ------------------------------ From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 22:18:25 -0700 Subject: Re: SKU is going down for a few. Jesus Fernandez wrote: > The SWAT Kats Ultraplex is going through super-hyper-rennovation. Okay - Renovation =) Kewl ! > must be another one of my SKCON wishes again.. SK Kon =) Yeah ! I Know Where We Can Hold It Too ! Atlanta ! (BWHAA HA HA - Maniacal Laughter FUR Shure !) > WHAT happened to Maxie's site? <- I Want To Know Too ! Maybe The Site Has Got The tED Virus (Eeww !) Bad Chris ! Down Boy ! Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ Sorry Had To Say It =) Mystery Signature Theater 3000 ! =) - --------------------------------------------------- SWAT Kats : The Radical Squadron : Kode Version 1.0 CR/CT8 A++ D+ M++ P++ T W RLAT a t C++dw d++ e* f h i+++wk p* sm Zm http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm - - OR - http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #36 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n037' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #37 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Sunday, 6 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 037 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jaguar@magiccarpet.com (The Rabbit of Caerbannog) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 00:43:57 -0400 Subject: And now for something completely different, assorted bezoars In a message dated 9:20 PM 10/4/96, Julian Ho wrote: >packrat@magicbus.com wrote: >>Do Kats get fleas? > >Possible. No one would ever ask a Kat if he / she has fleas. It will be >impolite and embarassing. Just like asking a Human if he / she has >dandruffs... > >Perhaps, flea powder and flea collars are daily hygeine necesseties in the >Kat's world. Since it's not long after back to school season so there are still ads for 'Rid' louse poison and other such products on TV. That's right, humans get _lice_. I'm sure kats would have _some_ sort of parasite, but a collar makes it horribly obvious that the wearer has _fleas_. Flea collars are definitely out of style. >Vaseline could probably a required item in the Kat's First-Aid kit, just in >case someone was choking from bezoars... Just think of the posters, like the Heimlich maneuver posters that you see sometimes. The idea gives me the giggles. Put your paws to your throat to make the international sign for choking on a bezoar. - -- _______________________________________________________________ / Michael J. Rider jaguar@warwick.net jaguar@magiccarpet.com / / http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/3224/index.html / --------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 18:14:52 -0600 Subject: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAA I haven' been able to access Edo's SK site! Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 22:27:01 -0600 Subject: Kats' Cats If humans have cats as pets, then what animal would kats have in the place of cats? Rats, maybe? When domesticated, rats have the potential to be very affectionate, spoiled animals who treat the world like their own royal palace, just like cats. Maybe rats were despised by kats centuries ago, just as cats were despised by Europeans on our earth, who viewed them as demons. =^^= Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 21:37:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: On furballs and digests... A few assorted (perhaps disjointed?) comments here and there... Simon: Hey, humans get lice and all, so it's probably not much of a stretch although most Kats are probably too fastidious to have fleas ... If that's the case then it's more likely that the homeless strays (like the one in "Mutation City") would have fleas than those living in apartments or houses, tho I think a lot of it would depend on the individual Kat's hygiene. Perhaps flea and/or tick outbreaks were common in the past, similar to bubonic plague, but they're likely very much under control in modern- day Megakat City. Julian: No one would ever ask a Kat if he / she has fleas. It will be impolite and embarassing. Just like asking a Human if he / she has dandruffs... Why would you need to ask? I'm sure signs of flea infestations, like signs of dandruff, would be evident if the Kat had a severe flea problem. On furballs -- we know that hairball eliminator is a marketable item in Megakat City (cf. "Razor's Edge," where a prize on a TV game show is a year's supply of hairball eliminator). Anyone think perhaps hairball problems might be hereditary, perhaps in conjunction with Kats that tend to shed rather excessively? JF: WHAT happened to Maxie's site? As far as I can tell, it's down indefinitely. BTW, a suggestion: if you can't connect to a particular site, you should email the person in charge of that site directly rather than drag the query through the list. Chances are it'll otherwise be overlooked rather easily. Michael: Flea collars are definitely out of style. Unless they're designer flea collars. ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #37 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n038' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #38 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Monday, 7 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 038 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jesus Fernandez Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 09:57:59 -0500 Subject: Re: On furballs and digests... Dana Uehara wrote: > Perhaps flea and/or tick outbreaks were common in the past, similar to > bubonic plague, but they're likely very much under control in modern- > day Megakat City. I agree.. also in my school (and in others I hope) hair lice is a big deal.. maybe schools in the Kat world are much the same on the issue on fleas? Anything else? > I'm sure signs of flea infestations, like signs of dandruff, would be > evident if the Kat had a severe flea problem. :) > Michael: Flea collars are definitely out of style. > > Unless they're designer flea collars. Flea Collars by CK? Ugh.. Bad picture.. :) - -JF ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 21:30:56 -0400 Subject: YKYBWTMSKW... I thought I'd start it up (this is a continuation of Ryan's that began in his nuku.txt story) on the list: You Know You've Been Watching Too Much SWAT Kats When . . . You write fanfiction on your TI-83 Graphing Calculator that can literally type out things, even though you know you have to type every letter seperately and the story can never leave the memory of your calculator. You flunked out of AlgebraII/Trig/Honors and moved into regular 'cause you spent too much time thinking about SKs and not enough paying attention to get good grades The ex-producers know you by name The ex-producers call you The ex-producers yell at you for quoting them too often on the newgroups and getting them in trouble (H-B scans the newsgroups, people) The ex-producers think you are over-obsessed with SKs You know how many different countries SKs airs in You vocalize your love of SKs so much your friend who happens to catch it in Israel and isn't a fan watches it just so he can call you when he gets home and tell you what episode he saw You know SWAT Kats is not spelled Swatkats You know when SWAT Kats airs on teh Cartoon Network, even though you don't get it You know what episode this week aired on TCN, even though you don't get it You consider buying a satellite dish just so you can get TCN 'cause your own cable company doesn't carry it, even though you all ready have every episode on tape Your fanfiction plays out in your dreams Other people's fanfiction plays out in your dreams You watch the new, sucky episodes of TMNT just to hear that whiny version of Razor You go to the NYC Museum of TV and Radio and call into up an olf Jack Benny episode from their archives, just so you can see what Barry Gordon looks like because he was in that episode You watch the episode, and realize he has a silent role so you can't hear his voice, and complain to the museum staff that you want to hear Razor's voice coming out of the mouth of a short, stubby, bald and fat guy You have all of the Midnight Magics (edited and un-edited) in your SK hard drive folder, and you even think you get some of them (sorry Ryan!) You convinced Davis Doi to send you the Carl Jr's figures because they simply don't have Carl Jrs on your side of the country (and it isn't kosher anyway) You personalize all your characters in your fanfic to your own religion You wonder if Jake keeps kosher You watch "Tiny Toons" in disbelief that that's Charlie Adler's voice You do the same with the Star Wars movies and Mark Hamill *All* your friends know everything there is to know about SKs, and they've never seen the show Everyone else in your family can spell SWAT Kats correctly, because you won't tolerate mistakes, and they've never seen the show You write fanfiction about a character who showed up 3 times or less on the whole series You write crossover fanfiction You fanfiction (put together) is over 400 Kb Anyone want to add more? Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy E-mail me for copies of "The Watcher Files of Chance Furlong" SK/Highlander-spoof fanfiction, due out soon. - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 20:35:32 -0600 Subject: Re: YKYBWTMSKW... At 09:30 PM 10/6/96 -0400, DJ Clawson wrote: [snip] >Anyone want to add more? You join a mailing list when you could had the choice of any dozens of others, and you haven' seen a single show for 14 months at the time you joined. You consider writing crossovers involving Final Fantasy III, Chrono Trigger, Star Fox, Babylon 5 (though I wouldn' try it), Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, Battletoads, Demon's Crest, Gargoyles, Highlander: The Series (DJ Clawson got to those two first), Project A-Ko (Ryan got to that first) and Mortal Kombat; not combined, of course. You reserve enough time to consider whether rats are pets, what kats drink instead of coffee, what communicable diseases kats would have, ya know, obvious stuff. You spend hours reading dozens of pages of Finnish history to see when Helsinki was founded, just to see if you could use the city in a Pastmaster story. You watch Balto just because Jim Cummings did a voice. You play the Kevin Bacon Game using SK voice actors. Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 21:03:37 -0600 Subject: Re: YKYBWTMSKW... > You play the Kevin Bacon Game using SK voice actors. This does not include the connection between Jim Cummings and Kevin Bacon in Balto. Otherwise any voice on SK could be immediately connected to Kevin Bacon in two links. Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 22:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: You May Be A Kat Fan If... Uh-oh... looks like I'm starting to write like Chris in my subject: line! ;-) One that I'll add... you may be a Katfan if... you're insane (?!) enough to run and monitor a moderated mailing list for discussion of the Kats, which in turns sees quite a bit more than its share of activity on a regular, daily basis. (Not that I'm complaining, really!) But hey, I knew the job was dangerous when I took it, and I have never regretted doing so. Hope the rest of you listers feel similarly... ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #38 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n039' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #39 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Tuesday, 8 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 039 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 18:56:58 -0700 Subject: Re: You May Be A Kat Fan If... Dana Uehara wrote: > Uh-oh... looks like I'm starting to write like Chris in my subject: > line! ;-) > Kewl =) I'm Fameous ! > One that I'll add... you may be a Katfan if... you're insane (?!) > enough to run and monitor a moderated mailing list for discussion of > the Kats, which in turns sees quite a bit more than its share of > activity on a regular, daily basis. (Not that I'm complaining, really!) You May Be A Kat Fan If : You Start Writing Like Me In Your Your Subject Line =) [Yeah, Random Thoughts =) ] > But hey, I knew the job was dangerous when I took it, and I have never > regretted doing so. Hope the rest of you listers feel similarly... Shure Thang ! =) Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ More Random Thoughts Than You Can Shake A Stick At ! Which You Shoudn't Do That To Random Thoughts They Tend To Grab The Stick And Shake It Back At You =) Not A Randomly Created Signature File =) - --------------------------------------------------- SWAT Kats : The Radical Squadron : Kode Version 1.0 CR/CT8 A++ D+ M++ P++ T W RLAT a t C++dw d++ e* f h i+++wk p* sm Zm http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm - - OR - http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers ------------------------------ From: Zax Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:04:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Swat Kats drinking game. When watchhing Sk episode Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 20:22:15 -0700 Subject: Re: YKYBWTMSKW... >I thought I'd start it up (this is a continuation of Ryan's that began in >his nuku.txt story) on the list: In Nuku Nuku 96, I've added 50 new YKYWTMSKW, and will probably add more. DANG IT! Louie won't finish his half part of the story!! DJ, you don't mind if I include this in Nuku Nuku 96, do you? > Your fanfiction plays out in your dreams Ever hear of Midnight Magic? Same principle!! > Other people's fanfiction plays out in your dreams That's annoying!! > You watch the new, sucky episodes of TMNT just to hear that whiny version >of Razor You know what's funny? They took TMNT right off the air when I was going to give it a try (I needed more SK, and I knew Denetello sounds like Razor!)!!! > You have all of the Midnight Magics (edited and un-edited) You sick little ba- er... sorry! >in your SK hard >drive folder, and you even think you get some of them (sorry Ryan!) I'm working on that!!! I know a better name for the series is "A Tribute to SK", so I'm litterally cutting it out! > You convinced Davis Doi to send you the Carl Jr's figures because they >simply don't have Carl Jrs on your side of the country (and it isn't kosher >anyway) Couldja convince him for me??? I don't have his phone #!! > You wonder if Jake keeps kosher A Wha?! > You watch "Tiny Toons" in disbelief that that's Charlie Adler's voice Or that Babs Sunny Is really Tress Mcnelle (CAN'T SPELL!!), i.e. Callie's voice! > You do the same with the Star Wars movies and Mark Hamill Mr Whatzhisname, Fluke Skyhopper can jump in a lake! > You write crossover fanfiction With little success! > You fanfiction (put together) is over 400 Kb Done that! >Anyone want to add more? Your teacher changes your name to Chance just to get your attention! You take more notes on SK than you do in your history class. You buy Soeishinsha just to make SK-The Movie. You finally get a tED tURNOR dart board, and then agonize over knowing that your peice of !#@$ printer dosn't print in color! You've made parodies of your own fanfiction ("Midnite Madness!" coming soon!) You've made your own SK patch file for your favorite street fighting game. You get busted for getting online when you're not supposed to just to answer listmail. You've talked about SK so much that you've turned your best friend into the anti-SK extremist. You beg for your room to be painted SK colors, and then when your parents say no, you ask for purple (Why not just smear the colors around a little?) ____________________________________________________________________________ Esteban (Eh STAY bon) "B-ko Daitokuji" Kelley SK Extremist, Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan, all around weirdo. Nothing new http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ____________________________________________________________________________ tED' tURNOVOR's E-mail: ted.turner@turner.com ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #39 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n040' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #40 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Wednesday, 9 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 040 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 16:01:47 -0400 Subject: Re: Swat Kats drinking game. At 10:04 PM 10/7/96 -0400, you wrote: >When watchhing Sk episodecoffee, whatever) whenever these conditions are met: I wrote an offical list I posted about half of back in June or May, and I plan on sending it to Chris as soon as I finish it (it's at 48 and it seemed like a bad place to stop). It's too big for the list anymore (over 6 KB). Can I take the two of yours I like best and just add 'em on before I send? Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy E-mail me for copies of "The Watcher Files of Chance Furlong" SK/Highlander-spoof fanfiction, due out soon. - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #40 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n041' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #41 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Thursday, 10 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 041 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:54:20 -0600 Subject: Re: Swat Kats drinking game. At 04:01 PM 10/8/96 -0400, DJ Clawson wrote: It's too big for the list anymore (over 6 KB). Does this mean there's a limit to how big posts on this list can be? If there is, what is it? Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 23:56:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Swat Kats drinking game. H@rd Drive writes: > > Does this mean there's a limit to how big posts on this list can be? If > there is, what is it? There's no size limit on list submissions, although my recommendation is no more than ~10-12K per submission. But at the same time, please remember that posting files is not allowed. I *may* let this slide for *small* text files, but large files, such as GIFs, WAV files, etc. are a no-no, at least for this list. ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #41 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n042' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #42 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Friday, 11 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 042 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 17:29:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Large files/binaries > There's no size limit on list submissions, although my recommendation > is no more than ~10-12K per submission. But at the same time, please Agreed. Apply standard reminders to folks here: Many people have limits on the size of their mailboxes. Others have to pay for their email by the message or by the kilobyte. I don't have any such limits myself, but posting excessively large files is highly annoying to those that do. For example, I know of one person on this list with a maximum mailbox size of half a megabyte total. If you sent a 1-Meg file over the list, not only would they never recieve it, but they could well lose an entire day's worth of mail (or longer, if they check mail less than once a day). > remember that posting files is not allowed. I *may* let this slide for > *small* text files, but large files, such as GIFs, WAV files, etc. are > a no-no, at least for this list. I definately support a "No Binaries" policy on this list. If you've got 'em, then put them on a Web site or an FTP site and send a note to the list announcing where they are. Or post them to an appropriate alt.binaries.* newsgroup and tell the rest of us about it. DO NOT post a GIF, WAV, or other binary file here without the express permission of the moderator. And I'd advise the moderator to not grant such permissions- these things spread like diseases. Once one person posts a GIF, somehow, everybody else gets an urge to do likewise. I've seen it happen on several other mailing lists and local newsgroups. Daniel Pawtowski dpawtows@vt.edu ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 20:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Netiquette All right, I know this is off-topic, but it *is* relevant enough (IMHO) for me to comment on. Followups, however, to me through email please; do NOT post to the list. Effective immediately, the following policy will be implemented: All subscribers (including me) will be expected to conform to Usenet standards of netiquette. If you aren't familiar with these standards, then I strongly suggest reading the informational articles that are posted to news.announce.newusers. Again, followups on this to me in email; do NOT post to the list. ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 14:25:51 -0600 Subject: H@rd Drive's apparatus Could someone tell me about H@rd Drive's suit? I can' remember anything about it. Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: Faolchuu Rua Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18:37:20 -0600 Subject: Giant Bacteria I finally dug up that show today, along with part of Enter the Mad Kat. Though the script was horrible, and the animation could have been better (it *screamed* H-B), but I now remember why I liked SK so much. ^_^ Now the reason why I joined this list makes so much more sense! Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #42 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n043' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #43 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Sunday, 13 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 043 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 16:07:29 -0400 Subject: Re: Giant Bacteria/Fanfic Announcment At 06:37 PM 10/10/96 -0600, Hard Drive wrote: >I finally dug up that show today, along with part of Enter the Mad Kat. >Though the script was horrible, and the animation could have been better (it >*screamed* H-B), Don't tell H-B I told you this, but: A note on Enter the Mad Kat--not a heck of a lot of the kat production team liked how this one turned out, either. The problem with the Tremblays is that they didn't exactly have all 24 scripts figured out the day they proposed SKs to H-B. What they mainly had was drawings, and some basic concepts, and maybe a few backgrounds with main characters like Jake and Chance. The rest was all made up by the writing team. Glenn Leopold would occasionally get some sketches from the Tremblays and be expected to go on from there and build a plot around a character that they wanted the Sks to defeat in 22 minutes. So Glenn got the sketches for the character of Madkat and clearly a little clueless on where to go from there. Another problem is Glenn *loves* puns, as you'll notice in episodes that he had a closer hand in, like "Deadly Pyramid" ("I see the rock--we'd better roll! - Razor) and "Bride of the Pastmaster" ("...in one era and out the other." - T-bone). So Davis had to occasionally let him throw them in, and I guess Madkat was his chance to show off. As for Davis Doi and the Tremblays, the main problem was with Hanho. I'd think anyone would agree that this was one of Hanho's worst episodes (his best being "Cry Turmoil"). The Tremblays were upset when they saw the final product because they wanted a more "angular" approach, animation-wise, while Hanho was making every character look like silly putty. Davis didn't like it either (and actually had a bit of a falling out with Hanho--please no one quote me on that; it's kind of secret. He wanted Mook for all of season 2, but Mook was too expensive and he had to settle on Hanho again). Another think that shunned of Davis was Madkat's character, who he didn't like because he was too "G-d like." So no one was really satisfied, and of course that scraped the idea of bringing Madkat back as a reaccuring character. PLEASE, NO ONE QUOTE ME ON THIS OR SPREAD THIS INFO ANYWHERE! Thanks! (on a side note : "The Watcher Files of Chance Furlong" is *still* delayed. The new dialogue work is great--I got someone from Britian to do it--but she seems to check her e-mail about once a month. "X-File #10-1115" is officially moving again, and I'll try and get it finished up in the next two months or so. Jade F. Callan, who I may actually get around to meeting next week, who wrote that T-B/Felina series that started with "The Enforcer Ball" is almost finished with the next installment, "Enforcer Down." She'll send it to Jesus when it's finished, and hopefully he'll get his site up soon. E-mail me for her e-mail addy to get copies as soon as it comes out) (sorry--just didn't feel like sending a whole new note for a fanfic announcement) Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy E-mail me for copies of "The Watcher Files of Chance Furlong" SK/Highlander-spoof fanfiction, due out soon. - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 14:59:42 -0600 Subject: Re: Giant Bacteria At 06:37 PM 10/10/96 -0600, I wrote: >I finally dug up that show today, along with part of Enter the Mad Kat. >Though the script was horrible, If I hear one more gratuitously maniacal laugh...! >and the animation could have been better (it *screamed* H-B), Correction: Hanho Heung-Up totally blows chunks. Has anyone noticed how Feral's eyes came together to form one large eye with two pupils near the beginning of the show? Also, isn't anyone just a tad totally annoyed by how incredibly short and malformed they drew Jake and Chance's legs? Also, when T-Bone and Razor were in the Turbokat, and they noticed that there were only two bacteria, they both had one eye. The third bacteria, which ate the subway are in the tunnel, also had only one eye. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FOURTH EYE!? I guess I just have too much free time on my hands... >but I now remember why I liked SK so much. ^_^ Now the >reason why I joined this list makes so much more sense! Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: "Warren Walter William Woulfe IV Esq." Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 15:32:33 -0700 Subject: If It's Friday, It Must Be : Chris' Weekly Post ! (OH - NO !) GENERAL NEWS ABOUT MY SITE : ============================ Lots Of Stuff Going To Be Updated This Weekend ! Adding Links To The Following Places : Furry MUCK - Weekend Hangout # 1 Fur Toonia - Weekend Hangout # 2 Added Some More To : The Sequel On Atlanta Page ! Thanks Fur All Your Suggestions =) Changed My Email Compleatly, Not As Spammy As Before ! Thank You Fur Pointing It Out =) I Should Send Some Art A.J's Way I Guess =) I Don't Have A Scanner =( If I Did Have A Scanner, My Site Would Be Much Larger, Than It Is Right Now =) ON THE SWAT KATS FRONT ====================== Not Much To Report Here, You've All Heard Pretty Much Everything About The Merger You Want To Hear, So I Won't Add Anything More To It ! Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ Even Though It Says Something Else Above ! NEW & IMPROVED SIGNATURE FILE VERSION 2.0 =) - --------------------------------------------------- SWAT Kats : The Radical Squadron : Kode Version 1.0 CR/CT8 A++ D+ M++ P++ T W RLAT a t C++dw d++ e* f h i+++wk p* sm Zm Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers Furry Fan / Trekker / Animator / Cartoonist / Net Head / Writer / Computer Junkie ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 21:09:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Giant Bacteria/Fanfic Announcment AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! MOOK DID ALL OF THE SECOND SEASON!!! HANHO _DID NOT_ DO "CRY TURMOIL"!!!! Mook did four 1st seasoners, Mook did _ALL_ 2nd seasoners!!! Sorry, I just had to get that out. Now, the "walking" SK encyclopedia returns to lurker state. :) - ------------------| Bob the Killer Goldfish: Earthworm Jim, I will A.J. Freda | DESTROY you!!! ah518@traverse. | Eartworm Jim: Now Bob, we said you could play poker lib.mi.us | with us if you promised not to destroy "Tails" on IRC | anyone. - ------------------| Bob: Oh, all right. But if I don't start winning, I ain't responsible! ------------------------------ From: Jesus Fernandez Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 20:56:04 -0500 Subject: Re: Giant Bacteria/Fanfic Announcment > So Glenn got the sketches for the character of Madkat... [and] *loves* > puns... so Davis had to occasionally let him throw them in, > and I guess Madkat was his chance to show off. Evil Glenn.. :) Well.. yep, this would have never happened if SK was true anime.. I wonder.. what would an all anime-style SWAT Kats be like... well.. as they say Everyone is entitled to _my_ opinion > (on a side note : "The Watcher Files of Chance Furlong" is *still* delayed. > I'll try and get it finished up in the next two months or so. Thanks DJ, it good to feel wanted.. okay, the site is (almost) back up.. if you want to see it (It got frames now..) go to, http://www.nethosting.com/~jf9183/kats/ okay? thanks! I have all the old fanfiction and will put it up soon. Thanks everyone. BTW, is there a SWAT Kats Remix? If there isn't I'll be glad to try it with my Sound Blaster Wave Studio thing. - -JF " Hey, whoo I just blew up the White House!"-a friend Michael's friend "Okayyy...."-Michael ------------------------------ From: Zax Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 21:49:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Top Ten list Top ten bad things about being a Enforcer 10. Medical insurance premiums go through the roof. 9. Cost of wrecked vehicles taken out of salary. 8. Being Mayor's bodyguard during golf tournament. 7. Caddying for Mayor during above-mentioned tournament. 8. Having a new super-weapon and knowing that some joker is going to steal it. 6. Watching the Swat-Kats get all the babes. 5. Commander Ferrel's bad breath. 4. Can't put the moves on Felina without her uncle trying to rip your lungs out. 3. Trying to clean atomic-monster poo off your car. 2. Getting wierd looks from your family when they ask you how your day was. And the number one bad thing: Lazer elbow. ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 22:11:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Giant Bacteria/Fanfic Announcment At 09:09 PM 10/11/96 -0400, AJ wrote: >AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! MOOK DID ALL OF THE SECOND SEASON!!! HANHO _DID NOT_ DO >"CRY TURMOIL"!!!! Mook did four 1st seasoners, Mook did _ALL_ 2nd >seasoners!!! Oh . . . really? I thought Mook did "Deadly Pyramid," "When Strikes Mutilor," "A Bright and Shiny Future," and "SWAT Kats Unplugged." The rest are absolutely *not* his style at all. Wow, that's interesting. Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) ------------------------------ From: Zax Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 22:26:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Top Ten list Top ten things that will NEVER happen in MegaKat City. 10. MegaKat Towers actually gets leased to someone. 9. Mayor Manx actually trying to run the city. 8. Commander Ferril brushing up on the latest Ballet steps. 7. DarkKat going Hawaiian 6. Atomic monsters decide to rampage through another city instead. 5. Felina Ferril joining a local Shakespearian troop. 4. A case of distemper cripples the city. 3. Callie, Anne, and Felina decide to go to the local Chippendales.. 2. Dr. Viper get's a bad case of hay fever. And the number one bad thing: Felina's father shows up and balls out Commander Ferrel. ********************** Commander Zax ********************** "They've only been making a fool out of him once a week!" - -Molly Mange, MetaliKat. ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 08:57:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Giant Bacteria/Fanfic Announcment On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, DJ Clawson wrote: > Oh . . . really? I thought Mook did "Deadly Pyramid," "When Strikes > Mutilor," "A Bright and Shiny Future," and "SWAT Kats Unplugged." The rest > are absolutely *not* his style at all. Wow, that's interesting. Huh? All the 2nd season is his style! Hanho could never do "Cry Turmoil" as good as Mook did! The reason some 2nd seasons might not look as Mook-ish, is probably because he had a lower budget to work from. Andy! Can you help here? - ------------------| Bob the Killer Goldfish: Earthworm Jim, I will A.J. Freda | DESTROY you!!! ah518@traverse. | Eartworm Jim: Now Bob, we said you could play poker lib.mi.us | with us if you promised not to destroy "Tails" on IRC | anyone. - ------------------| Bob: Oh, all right. But if I don't start winning, I ain't responsible! ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 09:15:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Top Ten list On Fri, 11 Oct 1996, Zax wrote: > Top ten things that will NEVER happen in MegaKat City. Well, here's my TOP TEN THINGS fans mistaken: 10. SWAT Kats IS cancelled!!! 9. Ted Turner's a jerk! (Ask Ryan) 8. HanHo Heung-Up is NOT in Tiawan!!! 7. Mook Co. Ltd. is in Japan (duh!) 6. HanHo Heung-Up did 9 of the 13 1st seasons eps. 5. Mook Co. Ltd. did 4 of the 13 1st season eps. 4. Mook did ALL of the 2nd season eps. (except for SKIQ, which was Mook and HanHo, due to the fact that H-B "cut and pasted" from previous eps. 3. Yes, Jake is Razor, and Chance is T-Bone 2. There are a total of 24 eps. including SKIQ 1. Callie doesn't know who the SWAT Kats really are (Refer to SKIQ) > "They've only been making a fool out of him once a week!" > -Molly Mange, MetaliKat. It's "Those fighter jocks make him look stupid at least once a week!" -Molly Metallikat - ------------------| Bob the Killer Goldfish: Earthworm Jim, I will A.J. Freda | DESTROY you!!! ah518@traverse. | Eartworm Jim: Now Bob, we said you could play poker lib.mi.us | with us if you promised not to destroy "Tails" on IRC | anyone. - ------------------| Bob: Oh, all right. But if I don't start winning, I ain't responsible! ------------------------------ From: Jesus Fernandez Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 09:17:16 -0500 Subject: Re: Top Ten list ARTHUR JOHN FREDA wrote: > 2. There are a total of 24 eps. including SKIQ > 1. Callie doesn't know who the SWAT Kats really are (Refer to SKIQ) I've noticed that SKIQ is a part (the little quiz) of that show, TCN calls it Special Report, and I saw on the titles it was called SWAT Kats: A Special Report? Does anyone know about that? AJ, a remix is a well a re mixing of a song, you splice it up and put it together in a different way, add sound FX, a cool rythm and click save! It's the easiest way I know how to explain it.. - -JF ------------------------------ From: Jesus Fernandez Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 10:03:26 -0500 Subject: Interesting discovery I've been searching these internet white pages and I found that there's about a ton of people who are named Furlong, but no Chance Furlong, but a lots of Furlong, C's. More than 100 Clawsons but no Jake. 6 Ferals, no Felina or Ulysses. 11 Konways, There's 3 Gora's and one Anne Gora. Lots of Pervis'es. Isn't it Interesting? - -JF ------------------------------ From: packrat@magicbus.com Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 18:48:28 -0500 Subject: Some Kat Fluff Well this ain't a real serious question so ignore it if you are looking for one.... Ever notice how some cats have hair and others don't (I don't mean fur I mean hair) like Felina and Cally seem to have hair but I don't really think any of the males do. Could this be due to (for lack of a better phrase) male-pattern baldness? T-Bone "Are you enjoying our date, my little bullion cube of love?" - Earthworm Jim ------------------------------ From: Zax Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 22:11:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Some Kat Fluff In a lot of morph cartoons, females have hair probably to distingquish them, (easily), from males. Notice the Disney cartoons, Warner and HB cartoons, (why even Avian characters have hair). If you are familiar with the "Albedo" comic books, Erma, and practically every female Felma have hair, (and clones, etc) have hair, but female of other species don't. Did you also ever notice in a lot of cartoons, practically old ones, females are fully clothed but males just wear shirts? I hope this answers you question. And if it dosn't ...who cares? ;) ********************** Commander Zax ********************** "They've only been making a fool out of him once a week!" - -Molly Mange, MetaliKat. ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" Date: Sat, 12 Oct 1996 23:51:02 -0400 Subject: Re: Some Kat Fluff packrat@magicbus.com wrote: > > Ever notice how some cats have hair and others don't (I don't mean fur I > mean hair) like Felina and Cally seem to have hair but I don't really > think any of the males do. Could this be due to (for lack of a better > phrase) male-pattern baldness? Mayor Manx has hair -- he keeps it in a drawer at night. and Feral, recall, was shown in the future as being partially bald on top (or rather, he LOOKED bald to me). Why do some have hair and others don't? I think it is because in our society, females are *expected* to have carefully-constructed hair. It's yet another example of cartoons reinforcing gender roles, despite their efforts to the contrary. Thus the female kats usually have hairdos, while the males have no hair. Then Zax mentioned: > Did you also ever notice in a lot of cartoons, practically old ones, > females are fully clothed but males just wear shirts? Yes, I noticed, but I'm not even going to *touch* this one! :) - ----- Dr. Samuel Konway Senior Freudian Slip Avid Therapeutics Philadelphia, PA flogistn@vivanet.com ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #43 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n044' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #44 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Monday, 14 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 044 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 14:50:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Allies Does MegaKat City have any allies during wars? Kinda like how USA was allies w/ the British during WW2? - -- Ted Turner is a pulsating, bloated, festering, sweaty, pusfilled, malformed LIBERAL for a BUTT!!!! :D ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #44 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n045' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #45 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Tuesday, 15 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 045 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 13:32:18 -0600 Subject: Chat Room Is there a SK chat room? Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 18:45:11 -0600 Subject: Re: Chat Room At 01:32 PM 10/14/96 -0600, H@rd Drive (I) wrote: >Is there a SK chat room? Answered my own question. ^_^ #swatkats is a chat room on DALnet, and almost no one uses it. Perhaps we can all schedule a chat session. ^_^ A chat application like mIRC is required. It can be downloaded at: http://pacificnet.net/~turquidi/mirc.html Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: Jesus Fernandez Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 20:42:48 -0500 Subject: Re: Chat Room H@rd Drive wrote: > > Is there a SK chat room? I'm trying to look for a decent CGI or Java thing, or if I'm (very) daring I'll try to code one up myself. I'll go for CGI, since I saw a link on how to CGI. But there's a IRC room.. and I'd really like it if there was someone else other than Paul and myself, and the occasional dropper inner-type person. DalNET #swatkats. - -JF P.s.: I had to say this so it can get off my mind. What would a SWAT Combat Fighting game (Tekken, 3d super fight-o-rama type thing) look like? ------------------------------ From: "Raphael" Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 22:09:28 +0000 Subject: It's Done!! but what you ask? Why, my first fanfic, of course. I know a lot of you on both lists have heard me ramble about it for a while now. Well, thanx to the critiquing of DJ Clawson, "Visit to a Weird Dimension" is finally complete! I'm not going to post it to the groups, cause it's too big (23 pages when printed) but if anyone wants it sent via private e-mail (or if anyone wants to archive it on one of their sites....) just let me know. Oh, just so's there's no surprises, it's a crossover story between the SWATKats and the Ninja Turtles (no flames, now!!). Erin/Raphael (who's suffering from a split personality) *******************istr2198@fox.nstn.ca*********************************** Coming soon to a mailbox near you: "Visit to a Weird Dimension"-a fanfic that was months in the making! ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 19:11:57 -0600 Subject: Re: Chat Room At 08:42 PM 10/14/96 -0500, JF wrote: >H@rd Drive wrote: >> >> Is there a SK chat room? > >I'm trying to look for a decent CGI or Java thing, or if I'm (very) >daring I'll try to code one up myself. >I'll go for CGI, since I saw a link on how to CGI. But there's a IRC >room.. and I'd really like it if there was someone else other than Paul >and myself, and the occasional dropper inner-type person. DalNET >#swatkats. I'm ready and willing. ^_^ >P.s.: I had to say this so it can get off my mind. What would a SWAT >Combat Fighting game (Tekken, 3d super fight-o-rama type thing) look >like? I'd scream at the graphics designer if be didn' get T-Bone's tight brawny appearance PERFECT. Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: Zax Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 22:02:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: MegaKat City Katernet Addresses UFerrill@Chopper.backup.org TManx@19th.hole.net Viper@penthouse.mkt.net TBone@swatkat.net Razor@swatkat.net Madkat@dlitterbox.com Metalikats@spiffylube.com CBrings@held.hostage.net (Okay, lame humor...but it's let a night!) ******* Commander Zax ()oo() ******* >< "Those fighter jocks make him look stupid at least once a week!" -Molly Mange, Metallikat ------------------------------ From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 00:18:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: MegaKat City Katernet Addresses And, of course, there's Dark Kat's: DarkKat That's it. No domain name needed, as he's already got an account on _all_ computers. :-) Daniel Pawtowski ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 1996 21:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: MegaKat City Katernet Addresses Daniel Pawtowski writes: > DarkKat > > That's it. No domain name needed, as he's already got an account on > _all_ computers. :-) Oh? I'd think Hard Drive would qualify more. Here are a few more I can think of: hackle@pumadyne.com (well, he resigned, but perhaps his account is still active! ;-) greenbox@gemkat.com - or - greenbox@mku.edu (mku = Megakat Univ.) zyme@mkbiochem.com (or biochem.org?) dockonway@mkbiochem.com litterbin@mbc.net A general addy for the SWAT Kats: swatkats@turbokat.org Hope nobody on this list actually tries to email any of the addresses! :-P ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #45 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n046' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #46 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Wednesday, 16 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 046 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Leet Wai Leong Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 20:11:14 +0800 Subject: SK Fighting game? At 08:42 PM 10/14/96 -0500, JF wrote: >P.s.: I had to say this so it can get off my mind. What would a SWAT >Combat Fighting game (Tekken, 3d super fight-o-rama type thing) look >like? Personally I think any fighting game based on a cartoon ought to remain 2D ... Capcom's Marvel Super Heroes is a great example of this. Crank up the frames of animation, load with tons of neat FX for special moves and serve. :) While we're dreaming, I think such a game must include Hard Drive, the Metallikats, Felina and the SWAT Kats (naturally). Dark Kat, Dr. Viper, Pastmaster would be rather hard to add considering they don't normally go gato-e-gato with the SK. Madkat would be interesting. Rex Shard and Chopshop have real potential considering you could do anything with them in the game. - -Simon Leet :) "Stop auditioning Pinky, nobody's hiring village idiots anymore." - The Brain in response to another no-brainer by Pinky. ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:47:30 +0800 Subject: Re: MegaKat City Katernet Addresses Dana Uehara wrote: > Here are a few more I can think of: > > hackle@pumadyne.com (well, he resigned, but perhaps his account is > still active! ;-) > greenbox@gemkat.com - or - greenbox@mku.edu (mku = Megakat Univ.) > zyme@mkbiochem.com (or biochem.org?) > dockonway@mkbiochem.com > litterbin@mbc.net > > A general addy for the SWAT Kats: > swatkats@turbokat.org > > Hope nobody on this list actually tries to email any of the addresses! > :-P *Sigh!* And I thought they were really for real ! :-( How about: makmolly@junkyard.com evilswatkats@litterboxinthesky.com manx@cityhall.gov razor@drawingboard.com Later!************JULIAN HO < julianho@singnet.com.sg >************ "We tend to take ourselves a little too seriously." - Justin, Captain of The Guards (from 'The Secret of N.I.M.H.') Coming soon, my own web page! (Yeah! It seems like forever, doesn't it?!) ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 16:25:45 -0400 Subject: Re: MegaKat City Katernet Addresses >CBrings@held.hostage.net Love this one. Good job, Zax! Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 15:00:59 -0600 Subject: Rex Shard Who's Rex Shard? I VAGUELY recall his name, but I have no clue who he is. Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: Zax Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 20:40:18 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Allies On Sun, 13 Oct 1996, ARTHUR JOHN FREDA wrote: > Does MegaKat City have any allies during wars? Kinda like how USA was > allies w/ the British during WW2? Probably those Japaneese guys. Idea: a fan fict swat kat episode when the guys are transported to a Jetsonesque type future, (stilt building and flying cars). Since SW is a HB production, it'll be cute! ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 18:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Rex Shard Noah: > Who's Rex Shard? I VAGUELY recall his name, but I have no clue who he is. He's the bad guy in "Chaos in Crystal." Shard is a con sent to work the crystal mines and becomes a crystallized monster, thanks in part to an invention developed by Dr. Greenbox. ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #46 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n047' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #47 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Thursday, 17 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 047 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chance Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 09:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Rex Shard On Tue, 15 Oct 1996, Dana Uehara wrote: > Noah: > > Who's Rex Shard? I VAGUELY recall his name, but I have no clue who he is. > > He's the bad guy in "Chaos in Crystal." Shard is a con sent to work the > crystal mines and becomes a crystallized monster, thanks in part to an > invention developed by Dr. Greenbox. The original intention was to have the dude appear in subsequent Katseps with an accumulation of 'scars' as visual proof he'd tangled with the kitties before. His next outing was to be "Cold War", but the episode never made it past the premise stage with Hanna-Barbera. The actual premise for that Lance Falk ep is hanging around someone's web-page somewhere, if not still on the ratsite itself. _____________________________________________________________________________ "There must be some way of getting the money without working for Eisner.." -The Brain ____________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 22:32:16 -0400 Subject: It's finished (new fanfic!) Highlander spoof/SK fanfiction. I had to go put all the spacing and lining back in manually, because it got corodded when it was sent over from the woman who did my dialogue, and I got sick of waiting for her to send me another copy. If you want a copy, just e-mail me! It's 113 Kb (short this time!), has nothing to do with my COTS series, and needs word wrapping as usual. As an update : "X-File #10-1115" (the XF/SK crossover and sequel to "Awakenings") is almost finished as well; I'm shooting for this weekend, but it needs some heavy editing so unless you've sent me fanfic ahead of time or will if I send it to you don't expect it before December (but you can always pray). It's coming along well, but there's a *lot* that needs rewrites. If anyone would like to help me, e-mail me and I'll send you a copy as soon as it's finished. This one is short, too (only some 100 Kb). Cya guys! Gotta get back to the books! Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy E-mail me for copies of "The Watcher Files of Chance Furlong" SK/Highlander-spoof fanfiction, now finished! ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 21:35:39 -0600 Subject: #swatkats Chat I was thinking (yes, I know how DANGEROUS that can be)... We could schedule a chat session Friday afternoon and evening (Saturday, for those people across the date-line). Wha'ya think? Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #47 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n048' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #48 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Friday, 18 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 048 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 11:40:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FCNL #3 cover ideas (Oops! Almost put kats@lists.mv.net in the To: box!) Anyway, does anyone have any ideas for the FCNL #3 cover? I've already used all my Tremblay-comic book style art, and I need something new. Any ideas? ------------------------------ From: "Warren Walter William Woulfe IV Esq." Date: Thu, 17 Oct 1996 17:18:17 -0700 Subject: My SWAT Kats Site - UPDATE - Added Some More Stuff Updated My Pages - http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm In Case Anyone Forgot =) Chris 'It's About Time' Cimafranca ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #48 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n049' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #49 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Sunday, 20 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 049 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 1996 19:37:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: SWAT Kats Episode Guide (from _Animato_) I just finished typing in the SWAT Kats episode guide from _Animato!_ and will email it to people on the list or digest upon individual request. I won't post it to the list, or I'd be violating my own rules for list submissions. Because of potential copyright problems (I typed up the list without permission), I'd like to ask that people NOT post it to the net. Questions to me in email, not to the list. Thanks. ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #49 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n050' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #50 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Monday, 21 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 050 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 14:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: On the Animato! article... I've received a few requests already on the _Animato!_ article's episode guide, and have sent the guide back in reply. I don't include any comments, as it's easier for me to just include the file and send away. But I skimmed through the article as I was typing up and proofreading the episode guide (at least I ran a spell-check on it, anyway) and came across a few of the author's (Mark Lungo's) comments on a thread that I brought up on here some time ago: "Why is _SWAT Kats_ worth reviving? Why does it have a devoted cult following among adult animation fans?" Here are Lungo's reasons, quoted from his article, along with my own comments (following the quoted material). 1. "HEAVY CREATOR INVOLVEMENT. When the Tremblay brothers sold _SWAT Kats_ to H-B, they ... stayed on as major creative partners. As a result, SWAT Kats has a distinctive look." My comment: I suspect this may have had something to do with a certain Doc Konway getting on the show, too! 2. "UNIQUENESS. Many animated series feature funny animals in humorous adventures ... but SK is different. The Tremblay brothers and H-B realized that animal characters and serious action/adventure stories are two great tastes that taste great together." My comment: Agreed, fully. I like toons that tend to be more story-driven than sitcom-driven, and this is what the Kats have, including one character-development episode ("Razor's Edge") that the producers prolly should have done more of! 3. "AN EXCELLENT VOICE CAST. ... The producers of SK assembled a virtual Who's Who of the best voice actors in American animation." My comment: DYN that Barry Gordon (Razor) also voiced Brainy Smurf, according to the Internet Movie Database (http://www.imdb.com)? 4. "EXQUISITE ANIMATION: Hanho Heung-Up (whose credits include _Tale Spin_) did nine episodes of SK, and they look pretty good. Mook ... did 14 episodes, and they look great. ... [SK's] animation frequently approached feature film quality." My comment: Trash HHU if you want to, but I still think its work isn't that bad. Remember, the Kats could have received much worse animation treatment than they did. (I shudder to think, for example, what Kennedy might have done to the Kats!) 5. "OVERALL QUALITY: The people who made SK weren't just ... marking time while they waited for ... a better show. They cared ... [about] the finished product." My comment: in the article, Lungo goes on to say that this, above anything else, is what has attracted animation fans to the Kats. Unlike such TV series as Goof Troop, which seemed rather haphazardly put together, the Kats have been rather solid and consistent, both with the stories and the animation. Comments on this, anyone? ------------------------------ From: wntrmute@tribeca.ios.com (August Yang) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 1996 23:45:07 -0400 Subject: A New Hope... Long, long ago in a Galaxy far, far away... Actually, not so long ago in a Mall about thirty minutes away from here I made an interesting discovery. It was in the WB store in the Cel department. They had an H-B catalog of cartoon cel stuff you could buy. Well, listed on the inside cover of the portfolio was (dan-da-da-da!) SWAT Kats! While cartoon cels are a bit pricey for some of us, it may indicate that WB does not feel the guys aren't the dead market that a certain Atlanta Braves fan thought it was. Of course, I could be reading into this *way* too much. August Paul Yang has *tons* of e-mail to catch up on. - -- wntrmute@tribeca.ios.com | For my Life Public Relations and Official Test Audience for the FDC | Still ahead, "Shakespeare would have loved your ratings system. | Pity me. -Queen Twelfth Night would have been lucky to have lasted one." -Max Headroom ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #50 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n051' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #51 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Tuesday, 22 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 051 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 06:01:39 -0400 Subject: Regarding cels August Yang wrote: > Of course, I could be reading into this *way* too much. I fear you are. The cels exist -- of course someone's going to try to make a buck off of them. The key is to look at how much they cost in comparison to cels from other kartoons. If we find them in the "Two for a quarter" box, then we're in trouble. - ---- Dr. Samuel Konway Senior Staff Khemist Avid Therapeutics Philadelphia, PA flogistn@vivanet.com ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 00:09:57 -0400 Subject: New fanfic archive! Yup, that's right! I got sick of waiting while the archive changed paws for the billionth time, so I made my own! http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/8850/fanfic.htm It'll take me a few days to link everything up, so just be patient, but the general format of the page is visible. What do you guys think? Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #51 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n052' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #52 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Wednesday, 23 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 052 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Rudnicki Date: Tue, 22 Oct 96 16:35:54 EDT Subject: Re: A New Hope... August Yang: >Actually, not so long ago in a Mall about thirty minutes away from >here I made an interesting discovery. It was in the WB store in >the Cel department. They had an H-B catalog of cartoon cel stuff >you could buy. Well, listed on the inside cover of the portfolio >was (dan-da-da-da!) SWAT Kats! I have a snailmail letter from Kevin Knoles about the SK cels, which I'll post when I can find both it and the time simultaneously. As I recall, he had found out that there was to be a release of SK cels next month, but that has apparently been pushed back indefinitely. More when I have it. Ed Rudnicki erudnick@pica.army.mil Oculis numquam claudentibus El Sarroso ------------------------------ From: Ed Rudnicki Date: Tue, 22 Oct 96 16:33:31 EDT Subject: Re: Regarding cels Doc Konway: >August Yang wrote: >> Of course, I could be reading into this *way* too much. > >I fear you are. The cels exist -- of course someone's going to try >to make a buck off of them. The key is to look at how much they >cost in comparison to cels from other kartoons. If we find them in >the "Two for a quarter" box, then we're in trouble. Back when HB was going to be marketing the cels, the pricing was to be the same as the (old) JQ cels. Worst case was TMNT, where they were selling for a couple hundred each via galleries. Then, after some sort of falling out between the show's producers and whoever was marketing the cels, the remainder got sold to TRU, which was selling them for $20 each. Needless to say those who bought cels at an order of magnitude higher price were seriously PO'ed. But there are far fewer SK cels of course. Ed Rudnicki erudnick@pica.army.mil Oculis numquam claudentibus El Sarroso ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 17:56:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: On Kat cels... A few months back I stopped over at an animation store down in Marina del Rey (about a half hour or so where I live, near UCLA) -- and learned that H-B *was* supposed to be selling Kat cels -- but the store and/or H-B have been holding out since. Details as best as I can recall, from the info I was given: the cels would be from the Hanho Heung-Up animated episodes from the first season, would contain both the pencil sketch and the final cel, all framed, going for roughly $200 a cel. (I'm assuming, btw, that these are original production cels.) I don't know if we'll ever actually *see* these Kat cels, but if I happen to spot any, I'll notify the list as soon as possible. ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #52 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n053' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #53 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Thursday, 24 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 053 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kaychang@eden.com (CrystalSkye) Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 18:07:21 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Vic--erhem, *Volunteers*, anyone? Hiya guys! I'm still fairly stuck in S.K.F-F.W.B. (SWAT Kats Fan-Fiction Writer's Block) But, as a lurker/contributor to both this list and HLFIC-L (The Highlander fanfic list) I had the *weirdest* idea. Okay, so maybe not, but still... OKay, it started when I read a piece of Highlander fanfic called "They Shoot The Fanfic Writers, Don't They?" (BTW--that, and all Angela's other spoof are bloody funny--IF you know what she's talking about. ;D) Anyway, I have an idea for a story--*however*, I need help, and vict-um, volunteers for my story. Does anyone object in any way of me using them in my story? This will follow the thread of The War On Atlanta, somewhat modified--like the Anne Rice VC fanfic entitled "Torch's Christmas Carol." All of the vampires, various fanfic writers, and Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt made appearances. It was extremely funny, and I'm wondering if anyone here's objecting for me trying to do something like that? Oh yeah, and I need a newbie to sorta "pick on." Sorta like Torch was in aforementioned VC story. :) Any takers? I'll even use an "oldie" to be so blunt, if no newbies volunteer. Terra Chang/CrystalSkye Insanity is the playground of the unimaginative *~*~* "Is the world going crazy or is it just *me*?!" *~*~* CrystalSkye's Personal Universe! GO SEE IT! ;) http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/6315/index.html ------------------------------ From: Jesus Fernandez Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 21:09:36 -0500 Subject: I actually did something on my web page! Look! I actually added a substantial amount of fanfiction to my SK page! Whoo whoo! on a more serious side, I'm heading for my local WB! store. Has anyone asked in the WB newsgroups, I'd really like to know if people who are WB 'insiders' know a bit more than what we do on the SWAT Kats stuff. I'm really psyched, and I have this gut feeling that SK has a really great chance of survival. Things have been looking kinda up lately, from what I've heard. Just my $0.02, now how about a penny for your thoughts? :) - -JF ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #53 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n054' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:13:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #54 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Friday, 25 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 054 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Zax Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 18:12:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Top Ten List Top ten things the SwatKats do in their spare time 10. practice with their "Ulyssys Ferrell Dart Board" 9. Invent more projectiles for those arm thingies 8. Go to that new musical: "Humans". 7. Figure out how to make each other look pretty foolish. 6. Nurse milk hangovers 5. Clean atomic monster poo off car. 4. Fine tune those ballett steps you been practicing 3. Practice pick up lines for Dep Mayor Briggs 2. Learn more enforcer jokes. And the number one thing Keep in touch with their agents on any new episodes ******* Commander Zax ()oo() ******* >< "Those fighter jocks make him look stupid at least once a week!" -Molly Mange, Metallikat ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:08:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Vic--erhem, *Volunteers*, anyone? >Does anyone object in any way of me using them in my story? This will follow >the thread of The War On Atlanta, somewhat modified--like the Anne Rice VC >fanfic entitled "Torch's Christmas Carol." All of the vampires, various >fanfic writers, and Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt made appearances. It was >extremely funny, and I'm wondering if anyone here's objecting for me trying >to do something like that? Ahhhh . . . go ahead. BTW, we're SoHo neighbors now! Oh, and I need parts 1-5 (or 6?) of the DayNight series for my fanfic site please. For everyone else, it's almost fully up now and should be generally finished this weekend with all the fanfic I currently have. Please check it out if you get a chance (no pun intended). Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) ------------------------------ From: packrat@magicbus.com Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 21:24:06 -0500 Subject: top ten list Writing pick up lines for Dep. Mayor Briggs? I can't personally think of any (not any they could use on a Turner cartoon anyway). Can anyone think of any? T-Bone "And here's my royal foot up your royal a$$!" - Henry 2 - Beckett ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #54 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n055' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:13:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #55 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Sunday, 27 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 055 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 22:02:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Halloween Kats Hmm. Slow list. Anyway, since Halloween's coming up I thought it might be kinda fun to wonder if -- and/or how -- Halloween might be celebrated in Megakat City. Somehow I suspect the SWAT Kats would be rather popular costumes -- perhaps the one night Jake and Chance could dress up as their SWAT Kat counterparts and patrol the city without drawing a whole lot of attention (tho both would probably get bags full of candy!). Anyone else want to add to this? ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 11:18:39 +0800 Subject: Re: Halloween Kats Dana Uehara wrote: > Somehow I suspect the SWAT Kats would be rather popular costumes -- > perhaps the one night Jake and Chance could dress up as their SWAT > Kat counterparts and patrol the city without drawing a whole lot of > attention (tho both would probably get bags full of candy!). Hmmm... wonder if the super villains do the same thing too? Things to ponder: If anyone dressed up as one of the super-villains, I wonder if that poor Kat would be arrested due to mistaken identity. Enforcer #1 : "Hey, it's the Pastmaster! Get him!" Kat #2 : "No wait! I'm not really...AAARRRGH!" Anyway, Happy Howl-O-Ween! Later! ************JULIAN HO < julianho@singnet.com.sg >************ ~ Erin the Swordmaker ~ The Mouse from The Far, Far East of Redwall ------------------------------ From: kaychang@eden.com (CrystalSkye) Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 21:16:46 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Halloween Kats >Hmm. Slow list. Huh? Wuzzat? Oh. Slow, yeah, yeah. >Anyway, since Halloween's coming up I thought it might be kinda fun=20 >to wonder if -- and/or how -- Halloween might be celebrated in Megakat >City. I dunno... I have been writing a story (not the one with *us* in it, don't look at me that way) that is NOT a cross-over with The Crow, but uses a holiday from the movie Devil's Night. And anyways, if they have Christmas (don't start that tired old debate up again, I don't think we're *that* desperate yet), shouldn't they have Halloween? >Somehow I suspect the SWAT Kats would be rather popular costumes -- >perhaps the one night Jake and Chance could dress up as their SWAT >Kat counterparts and patrol the city without drawing a whole lot of >attention (tho both would probably get bags full of candy!). Oh, sorry about that. :P It's late, I'm tired, but I wanna answer this... Yeah, I've heard of college kids dressing up -- *without* costumes, I might add -- and still getting full bags of candy. I suppose it would work... I= dunno. And, if they have Halloween, do they have Dias de Los Muertoes? (The Days of the Dead?) >Anyone else want to add to this? I just did. :) Terra Chang/CrystalSkye Insanity is the playground of the unimaginative *~*~* "Is the world going crazy or is it just *me*?!" *~*~* CrystalSkye's Personal Universe! GO SEE IT! ;) http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/6315/index.html ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #55 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n056' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:13:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #56 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Monday, 28 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 056 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pinky75910@aol.com Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 10:28:53 -0500 Subject: Re: Halloween Kats What would Manx Callie Ferral and Felina dress up as? What if Manx ordered a big costume party to increase his votes and try to sell that darn building to the Siamese Cats, inviting evyone in MegaKat City to the courtyard in front of the City Hall,and if you dress up u get free food! And then it got crashed by some very convincing arch-enemy dudes! ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 08:29:31 -0500 Subject: new email address Effective immediately, Vivanet is no more. Kindly note my new email address: flogistn@nni.com ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 13:55:47 -0700 Subject: Kat Drugs It's true; catnip IS a form of mint, and a cat's reaction to catnip (ecstatic purring, clawing, biting, etc.) is the same with all forms of mint. Also, caffeine is deadly to cats, having a similar effect that cocaine has on humans. And I'm not just talking about coffee. A few small ounces of chocolate will cause a quick heart attack. Perhaps in Katworld, cacao and caffe are controlled substances sold on the street by drug dealers. If this is so, what would kats consume instead in the place of coffee and chocolate (assuming kats even have sweet taste buds, which cats do not)? Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: packrat@magicbus.com Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 17:08:52 -0500 Subject: Halloween Kats Yeah, I think the SWAT Kats would be popular costumes, but something tells me that Chance would be the one to dress up and try to get candy... Wonder if anyone would dress up as Manx or Briggs? Nah. Maybe Felina though. T-Bone "Trick or Treat!" - many many children ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 19:08:55 -0500 Subject: Re: Kat Drugs At 01:55 PM 10/27/96 -0700, you wrote: > Perhaps in Katworld, cacao and caffe are controlled substances sold on > the street by drug dealers. If this is so, what would kats consume > instead in the place of coffee and chocolate (assuming kats even have > sweet taste buds, which cats do not)? Interesting subject for fan fiction. I'll keep that in mind, actually. Anyone want to write a fanfic about it? Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) ------------------------------ From: chance Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 19:01:19 -0800 Subject: Re: SWAT Kats Episode Guide (from _Animato_) At 07:37 PM 10/19/96 -0400, Dana Uehara wrote: >I just finished typing in the SWAT Kats episode guide from _Animato!_ >and will email it to people on the list or digest upon individual >request. I won't post it to the list, or I'd be violating my own >rules for list submissions. Because of potential copyright problems >(I typed up the list without permission), I'd like to ask that people >NOT post it to the net. Copyright reverted to the author after the publishing date, and we have permission to post it where we will in the cause of Katfandom. ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 20:52:46 -0800 Subject: Re: Kat Drugs >> Perhaps in Katworld, cacao and caffe are controlled substances sold on >> the street by drug dealers. If this is so, what would kats consume >> instead in the place of coffee and chocolate (assuming kats even have >> sweet taste buds, which cats do not)? > > Interesting subject for fan fiction. I'll keep that in mind, actually. >Anyone want to write a fanfic about it? I've had a story going like that... til my old hard drive died on me. I never finished it. It was something I think really resembled a Captian Planet theme, so no WONDER I never completed it! If I get a time (finish my 80,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 reports, finish editing and smoothing out my frist fanfics, finish creating, editing, cutting and pasting together both sets of Midnight Magic OVA 1, Somehow get Lou to finish his part of nuku Nuku 96 without him knowing he's doing it and creating a few more YKYWTMSKW ideas, find a job so I can save up $2300, trying to live through school not eating lunch to help in the last thing I've listed, and a few billion minor crises not to mention the next few, whatever they are. etc...) I might be able to re-write it! (Along with SWAT Kats Vs Battle one Grey and True Blue [accidentaly written over by "A Tribute to tED tURNOR"]) If I havn't been answering much E-mail, THIS SHOULD explain why!! BTW, It may be just me... but is T-Bone left handed? I've noticed that his throttle control is on the right hand side, (for an example, see the background at http://www.geocities.com/toyko/5927/sk <*shameless advertizement!*> and when I tried to mimic his handwriting (So I'm a forger! His handwriting looked a whole lot like mine BEFORE the past incident, and looks LESS like his handwriting now that I've tried to simplify my handwriting, and mimic his on top of it!!), I've noticed that he crosses his letters backwards. ____________________________________________________________________________ Esteban "Este' Banyo (Translation: That Bathroom)", "Lobo" Kelley I'm getting too many new nicknames all of a sudden... again! SK Extremist, Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan, all around weirdo. Nothing new http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ____________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #56 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n057' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:13:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #57 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Tuesday, 29 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 057 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 02:37:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Kat Drugs > BTW, It may be just me... but is T-Bone left handed? I've noticed that his > throttle control is on the right hand side, (for an example, see the For what it's worth: I'm a pilot myself. The standard control layout for a Cessna also places the throttle control in the right hand. Specifically: The pilot sits in the left seat. The throttle is a small knob on the "dashboard" near your right knee. Push it in for more power, pull it out to reduce power. If flying in a situation where the throttle must be constantly adjusted, you fly with your left hand on the wheel and your right hand on the throttle. In most flight regimes, you actually end up holding the wheel with both hands, occasionally reaching over for a throttle adjustment when needed. Now, I've never particularly looked at the control layout of a military jet, but that sort of basic info is published all over the place. Coffee-table books on warplanes, the manual of some of the fighter combat computer games, etc. Anybody on the list got one that covers the cockpit of an F-14? That's darned close to the TurboKat. Daniel Pawtowski dpawtows@vt.edu ------------------------------ From: "Warren Walter William Woulfe IV Esq." Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 16:41:58 -0800 Subject: Swat Kats : Q & A 1. The Name Of The Planet - Here's My Idea : Felinus (Adapted From The Word Feline Of Course) 2. Other Non-Anthropomorphic Animals - Just Like Earth (It'd Be Kinda Funny To See A Kat Walking A Dog) 3. Scale - The Kats Are Our Size (Just So We Don't Have To Worry About Converting Mesurements) Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca It's A Fur Fur Fur Fur World ! - --------------------------------------------------- SWAT Kats : The Radical Squadron : Kode Version 1.0 CR/CT8 A++ D+ M++ P++ T W RLAT a t C++dw d++ e* f h i+++wk p* sm Zm Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers Furry Fan / Trekker / Animator / Cartoonist / Net Head / Writer / Computer Junkie ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 17:37:21 -0800 Subject: assorted junk >> BTW, It may be just me... but is T-Bone left handed? I've noticed that his >> throttle control is on the right hand side, ... > > For what it's worth: I'm a pilot myself. The standard control layout >for a Cessna also places the throttle control in the right hand. Oh. Is that standard then? I'm not really all that good on these topics. Hey Terra! Ask Courtney about this! Isn't she into jets or something? Still, I wonder if T-Bone is left handed anyway. It's been a while, but I think he does stuff more with his left hand. Anyone willing to refresh my out-of-order memory? > Now, I've never particularly looked at the control layout of a military >jet, but that sort of basic info is published all over the place. Now I REALLY feel stupid! ------------------------------ From: Zax Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 21:25:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Swat Kats : Q & A On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Warren Walter William Woulfe IV Esq. wrote: > 1. The Name Of The Planet - > > Here's My Idea : Felinus > (Adapted From The Word Feline Of Course) Cait? > 2. Other Non-Anthropomorphic Animals - > > Just Like Earth > (It'd Be Kinda Funny To See A Kat Walking A Dog) In one ep, we did see cows, other pets are obviously possible. > 3. Scale - > > The Kats Are Our Size > (Just So We Don't Have To Worry About Converting Mesurements) Actually I had a little bit of a daydream that somehow Callie was transported to Earth and she was at half-scale. 4. Natural Satilltes(sp) I do think they have one moon.. 5. Government Multi-National. (With little or no Overgovernment or Alliance.) 6. Economy Captialistic, (at least MKC is) 7. Tech-Level Late 20th century to early 21st century Terra-Equivilent 8. Law-Level Moderate: Controls place on firearms, civil liberties not curtailed, various criminal forces exist, but are kept in check by vigilantie-type individuals. ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:01:09 -0500 Subject: Re: Swat Kats : Q & A At 09:25 PM 10/28/96 -0500, Zax wrote: >On Mon, 28 Oct 1996, Warren Walter William Woulfe IV Esq. wrote: > >> 1. The Name Of The Planet - >> >> Here's My Idea : Felinus >> (Adapted From The Word Feline Of Course) > >Cait? I still like "Terra" but I'll leave it open. >> 2. Other Non-Anthropomorphic Animals - >> >> Just Like Earth >> (It'd Be Kinda Funny To See A Kat Walking A Dog) In my fan fiction, there are dawgs mentioned, being anthropomorphic dogs who are much shorter and less populous than kats (for a full explanantion, see "The Watcher Files of Chance Furlong") >> 3. Scale - >> >> The Kats Are Our Size >> (Just So We Don't Have To Worry About Converting Mesurements) > >Actually I had a little bit of a daydream that somehow Callie was >transported to Earth and she was at half-scale. I've always noticed the portions of the show to indicate kats are a bit shorter than us. The normal "cartoon" character (like, say, Underdog or Garfield) is probably about 3 ft our height, while the kats on SKs seem to be closer to us, at probably around 5 ft - 5 ft 4 inch average male and smaller for female. The more humanoid they are in form, the taller I tend to imagine them to be (example-the Scooby Doo characters are obviously our size or maybe bigger). >4. Natural Satilltes(sp) > >I do think they have one moon.. Yeah, that was probably on the show. >5. Government > >Multi-National. (With little or no Overgovernment or Alliance.) In "X-File #10-1115" this *is* discussed, on MKC's relationship with the rest of the area. MKC, according to my fanfic, is a kind of independent "city-state" from the nation they exist in, which happens to be *very* close to the US in location and gov't (example : they have the FBI in DC). MKC, being they have to deal with day-to-day supervillians, can't afford to call in the army every morning, so they were allowed to kind of upgrade their police to "enforcers" with tanks and choppers to fend for themselves. They are still, however, a city within a democratic nation. >7. Tech-Level > >Late 20th century to early 21st century Terra-Equivilent Well, the enforcer's guns have been updapted to rays, but you might just count that in with my mention of "enforcer upgrades" above. I would imagine they've spent more time developing weapons because they live in a more day-to-day violent society (at least city-wise) than we do, but all other tech stuff seems at our level. The only wierd thing is the cars have old dezigns; maybe that's just personal perference of the car dezigners. >8. Law-Level > >Moderate: Controls place on firearms, civil liberties not curtailed, >various criminal forces exist, but are kept in check by vigilantie-type >individuals. See my mention of gov't above. BTW, everybody, some new fanfic *no one's* seen before is up on my site. Check out "The Hero's Home." It's one of the greatest fanfic's I've seen, though it hasn't been finished yet. Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #57 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n058' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:13:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #58 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Wednesday, 30 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 058 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 06:11:00 -0500 Subject: This Q&A thing > >> 2. Other Non-Anthropomorphic Animals - > >> > >> Just Like Earth I do recall seeing a dog barking at something horrible. Also, my poor overtaxed brain recalls seeing a rat or similar small rodent in a warehouse or sewer scene. And yes, the cow. And politicians. > >> 3. Scale - > >> > >> The Kats Are Our Size > >> (Just So We Don't Have To Worry About Converting Mesurements) Which is really the only reason we have to assume this. > >Actually I had a little bit of a daydream that somehow Callie was > >transported to Earth and she was at half-scale. Uh...I won't touch this one. > I've always noticed the portions of the show to indicate kats are a bit > shorter than us. The normal "cartoon" character (like, say, Underdog or > Garfield) is probably about 3 ft our height, while the kats on SKs seem to > be closer to us, at probably around 5 ft - 5 ft 4 inch average male and > smaller for female. Now I'm lost. Just *how* can you make such a comparison to humans, when humans never show up at all? There's nothing to even indicate that they (we?) exist. Kats can be 2.3 inches tall, or 200 feet tall. (Sharp glance at Simon and Dana). Shush! > (example-the Scooby Doo characters are obviously our size or maybe bigger). Um, that is because they *are* us. They are meant to be human. With the exception of Shaggy, who was a pitiful drug addict who spent years in and out of rehab centers and now sleeps on a grating on a streetcorner in Fresno. > >4. Natural Satilltes(sp) Satellites, you're welcome. > >I do think they have one moon.. One that we ever see. > >7. Tech-Level > > > >Late 20th century to early 21st century Terra-Equivilent I'd say closer to early 21st century. We're not quite up to making some of the things they've come up with. > >8. Law-Level > > > >Moderate: Controls place on firearms, civil liberties not curtailed, > >various criminal forces exist, but are kept in check by vigilantie-type > >individuals. This would be a frightening society. I prefer to believe that what we see on the show is only the...well...more *interesting* stuff. I like to think that the Enforcers manage to handle the situation quite well in 97% of the cases. The other 3%, where things get completely out of hand and the Swat Kats have to take over, as the situations that TV shows are made of. It wouldn't be much of a show if they showed you everything. Giant monster attacks city. Enforcers called out. Feral coordinates the response with the sometimes-hidden talent that got him the job in the first place. Swat Kats arrive on the horizon just as the Enforcers blow the monster to kingdom come. Swat Kats return home and resume ping-pong game. - ------ Dr. Samuel Konway Senior Staff Chemist With A New Email Address Avid Therapeutics Philadelphia, PA flogistn@nni.com ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 20:01:52 +0800 Subject: Halloween Is anyone on the list going out as one of the characters from SWAT Kats during Halloween. Just like to get into the spirit, that's all. (*~BOO!~*) ;-) Later! ************JULIAN HO < julianho@singnet.com.sg >************ ~ Erin the Swordmaker ~ The Mouse from The Far, Far East of Redwall ------------------------------ From: Simon Leet Wai Leong Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 21:35:45 +0800 Subject: Re: Swat Kats : Q & A I normally take the attitude of most writers, especially when it comes to fanfiction: If the question isn't raised in the course of the story, ignore it! ;) That said, I usually think other fictional settings make better points for comparison rather than our earth ... At 10:01 PM 10/28/96 -0500, DJ wrote: >>7. Tech-Level >>Late 20th century to early 21st century Terra-Equivilent > > Well, the enforcer's guns have been updapted to rays, but you might just >count that in with my mention of "enforcer upgrades" above. I would imagine >they've spent more time developing weapons because they live in a more >day-to-day violent society (at least city-wise) than we do, but all other >tech stuff seems at our level. Actually, I think MK City has about the same level of tech as Gotham City does in Batman: The Animated Series. The details of the two are rather similar if you consider the car designs and the existence of mobsters and organized crime in both cities. Both seem to have oddly high tech stuff for villains to steal, but do not reflect the same level of technological development in more mundane areas. Typical enforcer choppers and jets don't even seem as well armed as our typical military counterparts ... >BTW, everybody, some new fanfic *no one's* seen before is up on my site. >Check out "The Hero's Home." It's one of the greatest fanfic's I've seen, >though it hasn't been finished yet. Mwa-ha-ha-ha-ha, that's because I have yet to unleash my greatest masterpiece!!! With any luck, the final draft of the first part will be ready by December when I finish my exams ... in the meantime, what's the address of that web site? :) - -Simon Leet :) "Ready?" "Why do your people always ask if someone is ready before you're going to do something massively unwise?" "Tradition." - Sinclair to Delenn, Babylon 5 ------------------------------ From: Jreiter@gnn.com (Eric Reiter) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:07:18 Subject: Re: Halloween > Is anyone on the list going out as one of the characters from SWAT > Kats during Halloween. > >Just like to get into the spirit, that's all. (*~BOO!~*) ;-) Was there ever a SK costume marketed? I wish (and hope) there was, 'casue I'm gonna find it! - ----------------- MTV Makes Me Want To Smoke Crack - ----------------- - -Beck ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 17:51:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Halloween Eric Reiter writes: > Was there ever a SK costume marketed? I wish (and hope) there was, > 'casue I'm gonna find it! I don't believe any was marketed publicly, but I *do* know that a friend sent me a GIF once of someone dressed up in a live-action costume version of Razor. Unfortunately, I've since lost the gif, but it looked fairly cool, from what I remember. Razor's fur was a fairly dark shade of brown, and his feet looked somewhat clumsy and awkward. The picture didn't show his tail, though. If I can find the pic I'll notify the list and send it out upon request. But don't spam me with requests until then. Thanks. ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 21:23:07 -0500 Subject: Re: Halloween >I don't believe any was marketed publicly, but I *do* know that a >friend sent me a GIF once of someone dressed up in a live-action >costume version of Razor. There was a T-Bone, too. They are both on the rat site (http://rat.org/pub/kats/images/ for those of you who haven't bothered visiting it in a while 'cause you know nothing new has gone up). I think in their the promotional or real-life directory of images, probably real-life. Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy My SWAT Kat Fan Fiction Archive at: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/8850/fanfic.htm ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #58 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n059' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:13:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #59 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send the command 'unsubscribe kats-digest' to 'majordomo@maxie.com' kats-digest Thursday, 31 October 1996 Volume 01 : Number 059 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 1996 23:20:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: Kat birthdays No, it's not a query asking whether or not they celebrate birthdays in Megakat City (more than likely they *do*), but rather something I'd like to (re-)advertise to the list. Each month I'll be posting a list of those on the list (or digest) whose birthdays fall within that month. If you'd like to be included, please email me the month and day of your birth (and spell out the month, please). You don't have to include the year of your birth, unless you want me knowing how old you are. ;-) November kat-birthdays will be posted in a few days, so if your birthday's in November, let me know as soon as you can! ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #59 *************************