From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #3 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk kats-digest Tuesday, 3 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 003 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Razor Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 03:30:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: testing I won't be doing this once the list "officially" opens, but in the meantime... I'm testing the listmail to see if postings go through okay. If you'd like to send any message through, go ahead. No flames please, though! - -- Razor ------------------------------ From: Jonathan Higa Date: Sat, 31 Aug 96 02:40:54 HST Subject: Re: testing At 03:30 AM 8/31/96 -0400, Razor wrote: >I'm testing the listmail to see if postings go through okay. If you'd like to >send any message through, go ahead. No flames please, though! Hi, Mr. Moderator! Can I post something puh-leeeeeze? Can I Can I? Huh? Huh? This has been a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. If this had been an actual emergency, you would be dead. - -- Jonathan Higa, higa@math.hawaii.edu - ----- End of forwarded message from owner-kats ----- ------------------------------ From: owner-kats Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 14:21:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [none] >From razor Sat Aug 31 14:20:26 1996 From: Razor Message-Id: <199608311820.OAA14933@maxie.com> Subject: another test (and a warning!) To: kats Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 14:20:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@maxie.com To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats' or 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body This will be the last test before I open the list to the rest of the net. I'll be sending a message from 'razor@netcom.com' advertising the list to everyone else. Don't worry, I *will* be moderating this list, so the signal- to-noise ratio should remain fairly high. Questions? Let me know at 'razor@maxie.com'. Thanks! ------------------------------ From: Razor Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 14:25:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: OK, I lied... one more test I'm testing out to see how the headers are formatted. You may have noticed that I've included a header with a reminder on how to unsubscribe from the list. ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 20:54:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: EYES vortex Two days ago I watched EYES of Mars, and I saw a vortex just like the one done in "The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice". Ryan, can you back me up on this? A.J. "G-Taker" Freda A.J. Freda | |\ /| |\ /| |\ /| S ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us| | \___/ | | \___/ | | \___/ | W "Tails" on IRC | | | | | | | A - ------------------------ | S K | | S K | | S K | T \ / \ / \ / K \ / \ / \ / A \ / \ / \ / T S ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 18:54:01 -0700 Subject: Re: EYES vortex >Two days ago I watched EYES of Mars, and I saw a vortex just like the one >done in "The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice". Ryan, can you back me up on >this? I said that it was japanese animation when the SWAT Kats were blasted back to the past, but NO! You guys wouldn't beileive me!! :) ________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist, possible SK mascot [At least I'm not a cheerleader!], Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. Http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ------------------------------ From: Razor Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 05:25:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: "We're rolling, Ann..." We're already up to 14 list members, and the list itself is hardly a day old since I advertised it! Are the Kats popular or what? ;-) On the stray thoughts side -- Kat families exist, given the existence of kittens... but as far as I can tell, none of the main characters in the series is married. The closest family ties that we've seen have been Commander Feral and his niece, Felina -- but otherwise, nothing (tho Dr. Sinian and/or Mayor Manx could be married). - -- ==================== Dana Uehara / Razor (razor@maxie.com) ================== "We're Starfleet officers... 'weird' is a part of the job." -- Capt. Kathryn Janeway, Voyager ------------------------------ From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 09:06:45 -0700 Subject: Re: "We're rolling, Ann..." Razor wrote: > We're already up to 14 list members, and the list itself is hardly a day > old since I advertised it! Are the Kats popular or what? ;-) 14 Members In One Day - NARF - That Is So Kewl =) Ooohhh If This Keeps Up We'll Have A Voice On The Net Or Even Off The Net Too =) Yeah That'll Be Kewl ! (Senerio # 3,465.12) Time/Warner Lawers Or Executives tED Look At The Fan Support For SWAT Kats, You Need To Bring It Back. tED tURNER But I..... Time/Warner No Buts, If There's That Much Fan Support You Need To Reconsiter Your Position. (Or Something Like That There) MAN i've gotta put something like that that into 'The War On Atlanta : The Sequel' at my site : http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm OR http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm hate my ISP for doing this while i wasn't looking. shows how fast the net changes while you're not looking at your own sight constantly to see if it's working the way you want it to. (it is, thank you) Gotta stop typing these long emails tho' - eeeppp - Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ le runningus gagus maximumus - --------------------------------------- A! JW2 PI++~?i^" P+ Do $+++ Ay64 M - --------------------------------------- Animaniacs Geek Code Version 2.0 ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 00:04:16 +0800 Subject: All the Kat's Gears Can anyone comtinue filling up list of all the following: * missiles - -Turbokat - Matchhead - Mole - Groundhog - Octopus - Slicer - Banshee - - - Glovatrix - Sawblades - Shields - * vehicles - Turbokat - Cyclotron - Sandkat (Cyclotron with threads) - Hoverkat - ? (Submarine/Tank) - *hand-held weapons - Glovatrix - Razor's Six-Blade Gun - I'm still trying to compile a list of the Kat's arsenals. Guess I'll have to rewatch all the episodes. 8-) BINGO ! -Razor ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 15:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: "We're rolling, Ann..." Speaking of the new list, I have completed 4 pictures for the SWAT Kats memories collection. Each one is beautifully drawn plus a carefully painted watercolor background. Includes: T-Bone, Razor, Felina, and Molly Metallikat. If you don't know how good my artwork is, e-mail gvvy03@snowcrest.net and ask him. Anyway, for a set of four: Color Copies : $8.00 ($1.75 each plus $1.00 shipping) Hand-made copies (best quality) : $13.00 ($3.00 each plus $1.00 shipping) The charge on the Hand-made copies is to cover costs of art supplies. Send To: A.J. Freda 527 W. 11th St. Traverse City, MI 49684 Or, order one color copy of one of the pictures of your choice for $3.25 ($2.25 for the color copy plus $1.00 shipping) or $5.00 for a hand-made copy ($4.00 for the art supplies plus 1 buck shipping) if you want to see what my artwork is like. Trust me, you WON'T be dissapointed! A.J. Freda | |\ /| |\ /| |\ /| S ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us| | \___/ | | \___/ | | \___/ | W "Tails" on IRC | | | | | | | A - ------------------------ | S K | | S K | | S K | T \ / \ / \ / K \ / \ / \ / A \ / \ / \ / T S - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit SWAT Kats on the Web: http://rat.org/kats/ http://megakat.maxie.com/ http://www.macsonic.org/sk/ http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/8904/ http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927 http://www.mich.com/~mweb/animation.html http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/3224/ http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS SWAT Kats Kode Version 1.1: CP356/CR356 A+++++ D+ M P++ T+++ W RL- a13 cw++ d+ e-- f+ h* i p* Zm ------------------------------ From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 15:49:15 -0700 Subject: The War On Atlanta : The Sequel The War On Atlanta : The Sequel Is Located At My Site - http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm OR http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm ISP Uses Both Addresses For Some Reason Or Other - Just Read It - Or Whatever. Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ running gag or something --------------------------------------- A! JW2 PI++~?i^" P+ Do $+++ Ay64 M --------------------------------------- Animaniacs Geek Code 2.0 ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 18:44:13 +0800 Subject: Apology and Introduction First of all, I wish to apologise for my rudeness in breaking into the mailing list without proper introductions. My name is Julian Ho. I'm 20 years old and first new about the SKs in a small article in TOON Magazine #1. And I've been katerwauling since I heard SK was cancelled. The show doesn't receive much attention in Singapore, MMPR was in the kids' brains instead. :) What's disturbing is that they re-arranged the show in a different order and some scenes in "The Giant Bacteria" were censored. For example, the cow who got eaten, the farmer who got eaten, the train who got eaten. Does nothing get eaten at all? ;) What I still don't know is: which episode didn't make it past the productions? If so, does anyone has the sypnosis? Well, back to Lurkerdom. :) ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 11:35:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Apology and Introduction Juian Ho wrote: >The show doesn't receive much attention in Singapore, MMPR was in the kids' >brains instead. :) > Not that that's altogether much different from the US scene, though MMPR is *thankfully* dying down in hype. >What's disturbing is that they re-arranged the show in a different order >and some scenes in "The Giant Bacteria" were censored. For example, the cow >who got eaten, the farmer who got eaten, the train who got eaten. Does >nothing get eaten at all? ;) They don't actually *show* stuff like that. The camera just moves away in all cases. Yes, thFrom - Sat Aug 23 03:17:37 1997 Received: from maxie.com (maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by peak.org (8.8.5/8.6.7) with ESMTP id DAA11168 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 1997 03:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by maxie.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id GAA17684; Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:11:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:11:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199708231011.GAA17684@maxie.com> To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net From: Majordomo@maxie.com Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n003' Reply-To: Majordomo@maxie.com Status: RO X-Mozilla-Status: 0000 -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #3 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk kats-digest Tuesday, 3 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 003 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Razor Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 03:30:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: testing I won't be doing this once the list "officially" opens, but in the meantime... I'm testing the listmail to see if postings go through okay. If you'd like to send any message through, go ahead. No flames please, though! - -- Razor ------------------------------ From: Jonathan Higa Date: Sat, 31 Aug 96 02:40:54 HST Subject: Re: testing At 03:30 AM 8/31/96 -0400, Razor wrote: >I'm testing the listmail to see if postings go through okay. If you'd like to >send any message through, go ahead. No flames please, though! Hi, Mr. Moderator! Can I post something puh-leeeeeze? Can I Can I? Huh? Huh? This has been a test of the Emergency Broadcast System. If this had been an actual emergency, you would be dead. - -- Jonathan Higa, higa@math.hawaii.edu - ----- End of forwarded message from owner-kats ----- ------------------------------ From: owner-kats Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 14:21:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [none] >From razor Sat Aug 31 14:20:26 1996 From: Razor Message-Id: <199608311820.OAA14933@maxie.com> Subject: another test (and a warning!) To: kats Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 14:20:25 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL25 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@maxie.com To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats' or 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body This will be the last test before I open the list to the rest of the net. I'll be sending a message from 'razor@netcom.com' advertising the list to everyone else. Don't worry, I *will* be moderating this list, so the signal- to-noise ratio should remain fairly high. Questions? Let me know at 'razor@maxie.com'. Thanks! ------------------------------ From: Razor Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 14:25:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: OK, I lied... one more test I'm testing out to see how the headers are formatted. You may have noticed that I've included a header with a reminder on how to unsubscribe from the list. ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 20:54:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: EYES vortex Two days ago I watched EYES of Mars, and I saw a vortex just like the one done in "The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice". Ryan, can you back me up on this? A.J. "G-Taker" Freda A.J. Freda | |\ /| |\ /| |\ /| S ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us| | \___/ | | \___/ | | \___/ | W "Tails" on IRC | | | | | | | A - ------------------------ | S K | | S K | | S K | T \ / \ / \ / K \ / \ / \ / A \ / \ / \ / T S ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 18:54:01 -0700 Subject: Re: EYES vortex >Two days ago I watched EYES of Mars, and I saw a vortex just like the one >done in "The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice". Ryan, can you back me up on >this? I said that it was japanese animation when the SWAT Kats were blasted back to the past, but NO! You guys wouldn't beileive me!! :) ________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist, possible SK mascot [At least I'm not a cheerleader!], Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. Http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ------------------------------ From: Razor Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 05:25:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: "We're rolling, Ann..." We're already up to 14 list members, and the list itself is hardly a day old since I advertised it! Are the Kats popular or what? ;-) On the stray thoughts side -- Kat families exist, given the existence of kittens... but as far as I can tell, none of the main characters in the series is married. The closest family ties that we've seen have been Commander Feral and his niece, Felina -- but otherwise, nothing (tho Dr. Sinian and/or Mayor Manx could be married). - -- ==================== Dana Uehara / Razor (razor@maxie.com) ================== "We're Starfleet officers... 'weird' is a part of the job." -- Capt. Kathryn Janeway, Voyager ------------------------------ From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 09:06:45 -0700 Subject: Re: "We're rolling, Ann..." Razor wrote: > We're already up to 14 list members, and the list itself is hardly a day > old since I advertised it! Are the Kats popular or what? ;-) 14 Members In One Day - NARF - That Is So Kewl =) Ooohhh If This Keeps Up We'll Have A Voice On The Net Or Even Off The Net Too =) Yeah That'll Be Kewl ! (Senerio # 3,465.12) Time/Warner Lawers Or Executives tED Look At The Fan Support For SWAT Kats, You Need To Bring It Back. tED tURNER But I..... Time/Warner No Buts, If There's That Much Fan Support You Need To Reconsiter Your Position. (Or Something Like That There) MAN i've gotta put something like that that into 'The War On Atlanta : The Sequel' at my site : http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm OR http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm hate my ISP for doing this while i wasn't looking. shows how fast the net changes while you're not looking at your own sight constantly to see if it's working the way you want it to. (it is, thank you) Gotta stop typing these long emails tho' - eeeppp - Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ le runningus gagus maximumus - --------------------------------------- A! JW2 PI++~?i^" P+ Do $+++ Ay64 M - --------------------------------------- Animaniacs Geek Code Version 2.0 ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 00:04:16 +0800 Subject: All the Kat's Gears Can anyone comtinue filling up list of all the following: * missiles - -Turbokat - Matchhead - Mole - Groundhog - Octopus - Slicer - Banshee - - - Glovatrix - Sawblades - Shields - * vehicles - Turbokat - Cyclotron - Sandkat (Cyclotron with threads) - Hoverkat - ? (Submarine/Tank) - *hand-held weapons - Glovatrix - Razor's Six-Blade Gun - I'm still trying to compile a list of the Kat's arsenals. Guess I'll have to rewatch all the episodes. 8-) BINGO ! -Razor ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 15:54:50 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: "We're rolling, Ann..." Speaking of the new list, I have completed 4 pictures for the SWAT Kats memories collection. Each one is beautifully drawn plus a carefully painted watercolor background. Includes: T-Bone, Razor, Felina, and Molly Metallikat. If you don't know how good my artwork is, e-mail gvvy03@snowcrest.net and ask him. Anyway, for a set of four: Color Copies : $8.00 ($1.75 each plus $1.00 shipping) Hand-made copies (best quality) : $13.00 ($3.00 each plus $1.00 shipping) The charge on the Hand-made copies is to cover costs of art supplies. Send To: A.J. Freda 527 W. 11th St. Traverse City, MI 49684 Or, order one color copy of one of the pictures of your choice for $3.25 ($2.25 for the color copy plus $1.00 shipping) or $5.00 for a hand-made copy ($4.00 for the art supplies plus 1 buck shipping) if you want to see what my artwork is like. Trust me, you WON'T be dissapointed! A.J. Freda | |\ /| |\ /| |\ /| S ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us| | \___/ | | \___/ | | \___/ | W "Tails" on IRC | | | | | | | A - ------------------------ | S K | | S K | | S K | T \ / \ / \ / K \ / \ / \ / A \ / \ / \ / T S - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit SWAT Kats on the Web: http://rat.org/kats/ http://megakat.maxie.com/ http://www.macsonic.org/sk/ http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/8904/ http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927 http://www.mich.com/~mweb/animation.html http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/3224/ http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS SWAT Kats Kode Version 1.1: CP356/CR356 A+++++ D+ M P++ T+++ W RL- a13 cw++ d+ e-- f+ h* i p* Zm ------------------------------ From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 15:49:15 -0700 Subject: The War On Atlanta : The Sequel The War On Atlanta : The Sequel Is Located At My Site - http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm OR http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm ISP Uses Both Addresses For Some Reason Or Other - Just Read It - Or Whatever. Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ running gag or something --------------------------------------- A! JW2 PI++~?i^" P+ Do $+++ Ay64 M --------------------------------------- Animaniacs Geek Code 2.0 ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 18:44:13 +0800 Subject: Apology and Introduction First of all, I wish to apologise for my rudeness in breaking into the mailing list without proper introductions. My name is Julian Ho. I'm 20 years old and first new about the SKs in a small article in TOON Magazine #1. And I've been katerwauling since I heard SK was cancelled. The show doesn't receive much attention in Singapore, MMPR was in the kids' brains instead. :) What's disturbing is that they re-arranged the show in a different order and some scenes in "The Giant Bacteria" were censored. For example, the cow who got eaten, the farmer who got eaten, the train who got eaten. Does nothing get eaten at all? ;) What I still don't know is: which episode didn't make it past the productions? If so, does anyone has the sypnosis? Well, back to Lurkerdom. :) ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 11:35:10 -0400 Subject: Re: Apology and Introduction Juian Ho wrote: >The show doesn't receive much attention in Singapore, MMPR was in the kids' >brains instead. :) > Not that that's altogether much different from the US scene, though MMPR is *thankfully* dying down in hype. >What's disturbing is that they re-arranged the show in a different order >and some scenes in "The Giant Bacteria" were censored. For example, the cow >who got eaten, the farmer who got eaten, the train who got eaten. Does >nothing get eaten at all? ;) They don't actually *show* stuff like that. The camera just moves away in all cases. Yes, the farmer and the cow do get eaten, but it isn't shown (this isn't an X-Files episode, after all). No one is eaten on the train. Things do have to be "censored" which was one of Ted Turner's excuses for cancelling the show. In the episode "The Metallikats" a mobster gets blasted with a ray gun and they show a very fraction of a shot of a paw sticking out from behind the rubble, all singed off. Ted apparently didn't take too much of a liking to this seen, even though all it was was a black paw sizzling a bit (this guy's never seen MMPR, I take it). >What I still don't know is: which episode didn't make it past the >productions? If so, does anyone has the sypnosis? I'm sure Andy (Chance) can give you a better synopsis, but here's a quicky: 1. Curse of Katluna (sp?) - a vampire-type she-kat who Feral once had a fling for sucks the life out of him. He gets older and older throughout the episode, and Felina gets the SWAT Kats to help her save her uncle. Sinian (!) was also supposed to appear in this episode, so it's very upsetting to me that it wasn't made (which is very apparent from my fanfic). It was really Feral's episode, as writer Lance Falk has told us. Andy supposively has the script at home, but he has yet to type it out. 2. Doctors of Doom - Dr. Viper and Dr. Zyme (the guy from the bug episode season one who got brainwashed by alien bugs) team up to "make a lot of things that have to be blown up in 22 minutes. I hardly remember this one" (to quote Lance Falk). 3. Return of Turmoil - Turmoil busts out of the she-kat's prison, gets all the over ex-cons to work for her, and builds this "death ray/satellite" thingy on a snow mountain fortress. T-Bone and Razor have to go up and stop her. "It's a real James-Bondish type episode," to quote Lance Falk. Christian Tremblay mentioned it too; I guess they both liked it a lot. Also, there's two (Blackout and Coldwar) premises we have of never-made episodes that might've been season 3 (or who knows?) but right now the fanfiction archive is changing hands--or should I say paws?--and Edo has yet to send all the old stuff like those two to Jesus F. PLEASE, EVERYBODY GET ON EDO'S BACK! WE CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE ALL THIS FANFICTION! Welcome aboard! Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: owner-kats Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 11:36:10 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [none] >From razor Mon Sep 2 07:35:05 1996 Message-ID: <322B1877.660B@indra.com> Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 10:25:11 -0700 From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Organization: Star Streak Studios X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kats@maxie.com Subject: Re: All the Kat's Gears References: <199609012344.TAA03752@maxie.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@maxie.com To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats' or 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body Julian Ho wrote: > > Can anyone comtinue filling up list of all the following: > > * missiles > -Turbokat - Plain Old Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ i can sound just like him now =) --------------------------------------- A! JW2 PI++~?i^" P+ Do $+++ Ay64 M --------------------------------------- Animaniacs Geek Code 2.0 p.s. can anyone else help with this list ? ------------------------------ From: owner-kats Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 11:37:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [none] >From razor Mon Sep 2 11:09:05 1996 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 16:09:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960902150939.25c7f0a8@lville.mindspring.com> X-Sender: dminter@lville.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@maxie.com From: David Minter Subject: SK Vioence. Was: Re: Apology and Introduction Sender: owner-kats Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@maxie.com To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats' or 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body At 11:35 AM 9/2/96 -0400, you wrote: >>What's disturbing is that they re-arranged the show in a different order >>and some scenes in "The Giant Bacteria" were censored. For example, the cow >>who got eaten, the farmer who got eaten, the train who got eaten. Does >>nothing get eaten at all? ;) > Things do have to be "censored" which was one of Ted Turner's excuses for >cancelling the show. In the episode "The Metallikats" a mobster gets blasted I'll always remember the episode with, what was it's name, Shard, the convict turned into a giant crystal monster. I forget whoever it was (The warden?) but he's turned into crystal in the episode... AND THEN SHATTERED! I mean, the guy's dead! There's no way around it! Someone had died in an American cartoon! I was stunned! :> I must go back into mourning now. It was last year at this time that "Razor's Edge," the last TBS episode aired. Sadly, I do not get the cartoon network, and never got to complete my collection of episodes. :< Especially to get my favorite, "Unlikely Alloys." David Minter has moved his secret castle to dminter@owb.mindspring.com ------------------------------ From: Razor Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 13:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [none] Someone (Julian? -- I'm not sure since I lost the attribution) writes: >>What's disturbing is that they re-arranged the show in a different order >>and some scenes in "The Giant Bacteria" were censored. Hmm... this true? Simon, you're out in Singapore -- can you verify this? (From what I *do* know, the second-season episodes weren't showing in Singaore until just recently, say, 1 or 2 months ago, either.) David Minter: > I'll always remember the episode with, what was it's name, Shard, > the convict turned into a giant crystal monster. I forget whoever it > was (The warden?) but he's turned into crystal in the episode... AND > THEN SHATTERED! I mean, the guy's dead! There's no way around it! > Someone had died in an American cartoon! I was stunned! :> I noticed this too. It was the first time I'd seen anyone actually "killed" in a Kats episode. Some time ago, someone mentioned that Meese's office (the warden's name is Meese and the episode is "Chaos In Crystal") isn't shown turning back to normal when Shard is changed back. This is something I didn't notice until I saw the episode again. More body counts: Dr. Zyme (originally Dr. Viper's partner *before* he became Dr. Viper) is killed in "The Giant Bacteria"; two Kat guards are apparently killed at the beginning of "Katastrophe"; at least one Enforcer is killed when a mummy slams a helicopter into the side of the mountain in "The Deadly Pyramid"... can anyone else add more? > I do not get the cartoon network, and never got to complete my > collection of episodes. :< > Especially to get my favorite, "Unlikely Alloys." I've got all 24 episodes on tape, and all except a couple ("Volcanus Erupts!"/"The Origin of Dr. Viper" and "The Dark Side Of The SWAT Kats") are in stereo. If anyone is interested, let me know; although I'm going to limit requests to no more than five people since my free time over the next few weeks could be rather limited. Administrivia stuff: I've been trying to chop down quoted text to only include relevant material as well as chopping down .signature files in posts to the list. General netiquette: .signature files should not exceed four lines of text, and you should not have more quoted than original text. (15 lines of quoted material, one line of comment and 10 lines of .signature, for example, would be rather excessive and subject to heavy editing.) - -- ====================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ==================== "Nobody falls out of a hammock like *you*, Poppa Bear!" -- Kit Cloudkicker ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 15:41:35 -0700 Subject: Re: Apology and Introduction >>The show doesn't receive much attention in Singapore, MMPR was in the kids' >>brains instead. :) > > Not that that's altogether much different from the US scene, though MMPR >is *thankfully* dying down in hype. > Now we sometimes hear from a Power Rangers ZEO that's going on. The show looks sucky (YES!). Mabye SK will replace it... mabye not. >>What I still don't know is: which episode didn't make it past the >>productions? If so, does anyone has the sypnosis? > Also, there's two (Blackout and Coldwar) premises These two showld be made into full scripts. Blowout was pretty cool. It kinda like Dark kat, Dr. Viper and the Metalikats all team up to destroy SWAT Kats (And City Hall?). Manx and Callie get kidnapped, and the swat Kats have to save 'em. It's really cool. Carnage lovers everywhere would've loved it. >right now the >fanfiction archive is changing hands--or should I say paws?--and Edo has yet >to send all the old stuff like those two to Jesus F. I've got most of the fanfics, and a few that were never released. I'd be happy to hand these out. I'll probably say something like that next time I change my web site again. >PLEASE, EVERYBODY GET ON EDO'S BACK! I'm trying to get him to put his site back up. I'll ask him to get the others transfered over to Jesus F. If you talk with Edo, don't yell. I don't think it'll get us anywhere. >WE CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE ALL THIS FANFICTION! We can't afford to have the same authors writing new stories! I've written a ton for the world, and I'd like to see new writers out there. ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist, possible SK mascot [At least I'm not a cheerleader!], Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. Http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ____________________________________________________________________________ Words to live by: "Uh, where's the bathroom?" -guess who! "Right over there, sir." -Stage hand "*GO* Planet!" -Planet brats "The *POWER* is yours!" -guess who! ____________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 19:33:50 -0400 Subject: Re:Introduction/Fanfiction update Ryan Kelly wrote: >Now we sometimes hear from a Power Rangers ZEO that's going on. The show >looks sucky (YES!). Mabye SK will replace it... mabye not. SK replace MMPR? Uhhhh . . . come on guys, let's realize--we're a cult show, and we're going to stay that way, until like a SK movie comes out or something. >Blowout was pretty cool. It >kinda like Dark kat, Dr. Viper and the Metalikats all team up to destroy >SWAT Kats (And City Hall?). Manx and Callie get kidnapped, and the swat Kats >have to save 'em. It's really cool. Carnage lovers everywhere would've loved it. Ahhh . . . I thought the final version ("Katastrophe") was *much* better. Feral had better lines and interaction--his "saving the SKs" wasn't so out-of-the-blue. More Jake and Chance, and awesome scene with Razor in the tunnel (no one can deny that) and most importantly, less CALLIE! "Blowout" was nice, but all it really was was three fight scenes, and not a hell of a lot of plot in between. I don't care much for all fight episodes, especially ones like "Volcanus Erupts!." At least "Katastrophe" has some character development (on Feral's part) and poked more fun at the bad guys double crossing each other than "Blowout" had time to do. >I've got most of the fanfics, and a few that were never released. I'd be >happy to hand these out. I'll probably say something like that next time I >change my web site again. Oh--could you please send 'em to me? I'll send you the unedited version of "The Watcher Files..." (which Paul seems to busy to help with, so I'm looking for other people now). > >>WE CAN'T AFFORD TO LOSE ALL THIS FANFICTION! > >We can't afford to have the same authors writing new stories! I've written a >ton for the world, and I'd like to see new writers out there. I feel your pain, man. (some 450 Kb worth of fanfiction written so far) FANFICTION UPDATE! "The Watcher Files of Chance Furlong" still needs somebody to do the British and Scottish accented dialogue. "X-Files #10-115" is almost finished being typed, and I'm hoping to finish tonight (I'd better--school starts tomorrow!). It, however, is not finished, (the ending is not actually written down *anywhere*) so that should take me a few weeks. I know things are going to get busy this fall, with school and especially my brother's Bar Mitzvah in October (I'm doing some Torah reading and possible the early morning service [Shakreet] if I can learn it in time). I will try and get "The Watcher Files..." out as soon as possible, though, and "X-File..." shortly afterwards. ANYBODY ELSE WRITING ANYTHING!? (aside from Ryan, of course) Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Razor Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 16:59:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re:Introduction/Fanfiction update On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, DJ Clawson wrote: > "Katastrophe" has some character development (on Feral's part) > and poked more fun at the bad guys double crossing each other than > "Blowout" had time to do. Those of you who may have seen the "Animato!" article may have noticed that the original premise for "Cry Turmoil!" had Commander Feral, *not* T-Bone, getting involved with Turmoil. And unlike T-Bone, who we know would *never* betray his partner, Feral was genuinely tempted to join Turmoil (Feral betray the Enforcers? Imagine that...) Had the episode aired as such, we may have seen more character development on Feral's part. > ANYBODY ELSE WRITING ANYTHING!? (aside from Ryan, of course) I've been toying around with a premise based on AJ's drawing and suggestion for a Kats story involving the deaths of T-Bone and Razor. (Unless this is something that happens in the future, it'd likely be a series finale!) I won't send it here as I'd be violating my own guidelines (no fanfic to the list), but I'll see what I can type up... and send it to people *upon request*. - -- ====================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ==================== "Nobody falls out of a hammock like *you*, Poppa Bear!" -- Kit Cloudkicker ------------------------------ From: Jesus Fernandez Date: Mon, 02 Sep 1996 21:56:41 -0500 Subject: Re: Introduction/Fanfiction update Razor wrote: > I've been toying around with a premise based on AJ's drawing and > suggestion for a Kats story involving the deaths of T-Bone and > Razor. (Unless this is something that happens in the future, it'd likely > be a series finale!) I won't send it here as I'd be violating my own > guidelines (no fanfic to the list), but I'll see what I can type up... > and send it to people *upon request*. Ooh... that'll be cool.. would it be as elaborate as the Superman Death.. having the SWAT Kats come back as four totally different enities (Vengeance of the SK, Ghost Enforcers [venegeance on Feral], The Dark Kats, and two other young hot shots coming up in the enforcers, perhaps?) or they have to fake their death to save themselves. BTW I'm also witing my piece of fanfiction. Also, I'm trying to find somewhere to get an extra e-mail account to make into a fanfic list. How? I am developing a piece of software that will act as a list without installing stuff on the mail server. Edo is currently sending me the fanfics.. and I've made arrangements with Edo to send the first issue of the NL (anyone else have it? me and Edo are having problems sending it over), but AJ I can't find that piece of email that said if you would or wouldn't let me host the next issue.. That's my (tax-deductible) $0.02 - -JF ------------------------------ From: Razor Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 19:42:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Kat stuff Been getting a couple of responses to my "advertisement" for a Kats fanfic premise that I haven't forwarded to the list because I think they're more personal email (I assume those of you who have been emailing me about that know who you are; if you want the mail redirected to the list, send me the first few lines of the message and a note saying you want it redirected to the list so I can do so). I *am* saving these responses, btw, so you *don't* have to resend them to the list yourself! I've written about a third of the fanfic story, but have hit a writer's block as far as which way to go with the story. I'll probably work on it a bit tomorrow, so unfortunately it won't be until tomorrow evening (at the very earliest) when I finish it. About the most I'll say as far as my fanfic premise goes is that (so far!) it's based on events from "Volcanus Erupts!" and "Razor's Edge." - -- ====================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ==================== "Nobody falls out of a hammock like *you*, Poppa Bear!" -- Kit Cloudkicker ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 19:32:34 +0800 Subject: Some thoughts on SK: The Movie and A VERY *WICKED* IDEA! IMHO I see that SK: The Movie can come in the following categories: - - traditional animation. See Disney Classics features. - - live-action. - - Muppets (hand-controlled). See The Dark Crystal - - Muppets (with people inside). See Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Movie - - 3-D animation (realistic-kind). See ID4. - - 3-D animation (cartoon-kind). See ReBoot. Any opinions? :-) THE VERY *WICKED* IDEA (Don't *flame* me! Aaarrgh! *Sizzle* *Sizzle* *Sizzle*) - -Get Steven Spielberg of SKG. Ask him to buy the copyright to SK (very nicely, of course). Re-launch SK ! Bwaa-hahaha! ;-D (Insert Maniacal Laugh here) "From Razor with Love" - inscription seen on Plain Old Missle. ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #3 ************************ ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n004' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:11:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #4 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk kats-digest Tuesday, 3 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Leet Wai Leong Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 20:03:12 +0800 Subject: SK in S'pore and dead kats ... At 01:57 PM 9/2/96 -0700, you wrote: >Someone (Julian? -- I'm not sure since I lost the attribution) writes: >>>What's disturbing is that they re-arranged the show in a different order >>>and some scenes in "The Giant Bacteria" were censored. >Hmm... this true? Simon, you're out in Singapore -- can you >verify this? (From what I *do* know, the second-season episodes weren't >showing in Singaore until just recently, say, 1 or 2 months ago, either.) Ehhhhh ... How would I know?! Come to think of it, how would Julian know?! The Giant Bacteria has only been aired once in S'pore and it looked fine. I have no American episode to gauge it against so there's no way to tell, but it seemed perfectly okay. > (Stuff about folks dying in SK ...) >More body counts: Dr. Zyme (originally Dr. Viper's partner *before* he >became Dr. Viper) is killed in "The Giant Bacteria"; two Kat guards are >apparently killed at the beginning of "Katastrophe"; at least one >Enforcer is killed when a mummy slams a helicopter into the side of the >mountain in "The Deadly Pyramid"... can anyone else add more? Two things: - someone mentioned in another post that one of the three unfinished episodes "Doctors of Doom" (?) had Dr. Viper and Dr. Zyme. As noted here, Dr. Zyme is dead by the time that episode occurs. I believe Dr. Harley Street was the one who was suppoed to appear in his post-CiKata encounter state. - My favorite implied death was the one with the CiKata falling towards the blades of an Enforcer chopper :) Almost as fun as toasting Gremlins in the Microwave! - -Simon Leet :) "Figures. All my life, I've fought against imperialism. Now, suddenly, I AM the expanding Russian frontier." "But with very nice borders." Ivanova and Dr. Franklin, Babylon 5 ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 00:02:35 +0800 Subject: Oops! On my part and Questions Series Continuity My, my. It seems that my comment on the mortality rate occuring in the TV series has snowballed into a mass of discussion. It seems that I've overlooked the fact that the editors edited the scenes so that we fill in the rest with our imagination. Kudos do the producers. ;-) By the way: Did T-Bone actually throw Ann Gorra at the scorpion monster deliberately? ;-D This is so hilarious! ROTFL Talk about quick reflexes. Here are some things that I don't understand. I hope someone can answer them (Fingers crossed) *Did anyone notice how "Pops" in 'Bright and Shiny Future" fur color appear differently in the Present and Alternate Future? Wrong paint color? *If the SWAT Kats were blown up earlier in the alternate time-period, how will changing the Alternative Future prevent the SWAT Kats from meeting their demise. Unless of course, they stopped the Pastmaster in the Present from creating the Alternative Future. (Confusing, huh?) :-P Oh, well. Till next time. ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 13:57:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Introduction/Fanfiction update You never asked me anything of the sort, and besides, I finished FCNL #2 already and I'm going to send it to Ryan today. What do you mean by "host the next issue"? A.J. Freda | |\ /| |\ /| |\ /| S ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us| | \___/ | | \___/ | | \___/ | W "Tails" on IRC | | | | | | | A - ------------------------ | S K | | S K | | S K | T \ / \ / \ / K \ / \ / \ / A \ / \ / \ / T S - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: kaychang@eden.com (Terra) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 16:20:52 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Kat stuff [ This is almost more of a personal email rather than a listmail mesage, but I'm sending it through to the list anyway. -- Mod.] >About the most I'll say as far as my fanfic premise goes is that (so >far!) it's based on events from "Volcanus Erupts!" and "Razor's Edge." Hi everyone! I managed to escape from Real Life for the moment, and until bedtime, I'm freeeeeee! (No, not really, I do have some homework to do. :P) I wanna see this 'fic... e-mail it to me? Call it the things that help me keep going when I've got three projects puttin' pressure on me and I have to sing for the class tomorrow? Please? Send it? Before I melt into a shapeless puddle on the ground? "People once believed that when someone dies, a crow carries their soul to= the land of the dead. But sometimes, just sometimes, the Crow can bring that= soul back to put the wrong things right. I thought Eric was the last. I never imagined there would be another..." --Sarah, "The Crow: City of Angels" ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 14:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Kat stuff Julian writes: > By the way: Did T-Bone actually throw Ann Gorra at the scorpion monster > deliberately? ;-D This is so hilarious! ROTFL Talk about quick reflexes. No kidding! I found this scenario rather surprising, especially for an American animated cartoon (although I imagine this kind of thing is standard fare for anime). Yet the same scene could have easily been one of those that shocked Ted Turner enough to cancel the series. Here he has one episode which plays out very much like a Captain Planet one, and then the writers stick in this piece of violence which would practically be a slap in the face! How do you think he'd react? > *Did anyone notice how "Pops" in 'Bright and Shiny Future" fur color appear > differently in the Present and Alternate Future? Wrong paint color? Possibly. Or the lighting was different. > *If the SWAT Kats were blown up earlier in the alternate time-period, how > will changing the Alternative Future prevent the SWAT Kats from meeting > their demise. Unless of course, they stopped the Pastmaster in the Present > from creating the Alternative Future. (Confusing, huh?) :-P I think this was written in so there wouldn't be the paradox of the SWAT Kats meeting up with their future selves. I'm no expert on time travel, but I know a toony look to the issue of time travel (as addressed in such cartoons as "Dexter's Laboratory" and "Redux" -- an upcoming piece of work by Disney TV Animation -- is that if you go back in time, and meet up with your past self, it's possible for *both* of you to return to the present. And no, I don't know if this would hold in the Kats universe. In the spirit of somewhat bad puns on names (Ann Gora, Abby Sinian, etc.) how much would you be willing to bet that Dr. Zyme's first name starts with "N"? ;-) - -- ====================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ==================== "Nobody falls out of a hammock like *you*, Poppa Bear!" -- Kit Cloudkicker ------------------------------ From: Jesus Fernandez Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 19:11:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Introduction/Fanfiction update ARTHUR JOHN FREDA wrote: > > > > You never asked me anything of the sort, and besides, I finished FCNL #2 > already and I'm going to send it to Ryan today. What do you mean by "host > the next issue"? Ryan's hosting it? Oh... so I guess that I don't need Edo to send me the first issue, Ryan needs it more than I do. :) Terra, I'm going to put up your fanfics up on my site right after I send my message. to save a bit of time, send the ever necessary icon over.. since Ryan's is just the right size.. send me one the same size of his. (If you have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about see the fanfic page at my site..) - -JF > ------------------------------ From: kaychang@eden.com (Terra) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 18:33:18 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Introduction/Fanfiction update >Terra, I'm going to put up your fanfics up on my site right after I send >my message. to save a bit of time, send the ever necessary icon over.. >since Ryan's is just the right size.. send me one the same size of his. >(If you have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about see the fanfic >page at my site..) Sweety, I would, if I could remember the address to your site. I still have AJ's old .sig file with all those web pages, but I'm not sure which one is yours. :P P.S. Hey guys! I got a web page! I got a web page! Yeah! Yeah! :) It doesn't have much yet--I'm still working on it. I plan to have fanfics on there, but so far... just a few links. I'll incoperate the address into my .sig file later. Okay, bye! :) "People once believed that when someone dies, a crow carries their soul to the land of the dead. But sometimes, just sometimes, the Crow can bring that soul back to put the wrong things right. I thought Eric was the last. I never imagined there would be another..." --Sarah, "The Crow: City of Angels" ------------------------------ From: Jesus Fernandez Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 19:53:13 -0500 Subject: Re: Introduction/Fanfiction update Terra wrote: > Sweety, I would, if I could remember the address to your site. I still have > AJ's old .sig file with all those web pages, but I'm not sure which one is > yours. :P the address to the SWAT Kats ultraplex is: http://www.nethosting.com/~jf9183/ ------------------------------ From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 17:48:42 -0700 Subject: 90% Done.......... My Site Is 90% Done - Wheeeee !!!!!!!!! http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm OR http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm NOW - if only that 10% could get finished, I could work on the fanfic some more =) And The Kats Korrospondance Kulb stuff, And The Animated 'TOP SECRET' Project =) And About One Million Other Things I've Got Going Around Here, Not To Mention That Anoying JOB Thing That Takes Up All Of My Time =) WHEW ! I Need 24 More Hours In A Day To Do Everything. Oh Man I Justed Used Up An Hour Reading Email - CRUD ! =) Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ unofficial nickname fur kats list =) - --------------------------------------- A! JW2 PI++~?i^" P+ Do $+++ Ay64 M - --------------------------------------- Coming Soon - My Kats Code - When I Find The Time =) ------------------------------ From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 18:23:42 -0700 Subject: Re: Some thoughts on SK: The Movie and A VERY *WICKED* IDEA! Julian Ho wrote: > > IMHO I see that SK: The Movie can come in the following categories: > - traditional animation. See Disney Classics features. > - live-action. > - Muppets (hand-controlled). See The Dark Crystal > - Muppets (with people inside). See Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Movie > - 3-D animation (realistic-kind). See ID4. > - 3-D animation (cartoon-kind). See ReBoot. > > Any opinions? :-) > > THE VERY *WICKED* IDEA (Don't *flame* me! Aaarrgh! *Sizzle* *Sizzle* > *Sizzle*) > -Get Steven Spielberg of SKG. Ask him to buy the copyright to SK (very > nicely, of course). Re-launch SK ! > > Bwaa-hahaha! ;-D (Insert Maniacal Laugh here) > > "From Razor with Love" - inscription seen on Plain Old Missle. You Know In My Fanfic Parody About tED tERNER - Steven Spielberg Is Listed As Director Of The Movie Script =) Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm OR http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm (90% Done.......... 90% Done...........) - --------------------------------------- A! JW2 PI++~?i^" P+ Do $+++ Ay64 M - --------------------------------------- Yet Another Plug For My Site (STOP ME !) ------------------------------ From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 18:47:59 -0700 Subject: Is SWAT Kats The Star Trek Of Cartoondom ? Okay Here It Goes My First Good Post To The Group. Q - Is SWAT Kats The Star Trek Of Cartoondom ? A - Well, Lets Look At The Facts.......... 1 - Lasted Only A Few Seasons - 2 - Canceled By A Network Pinhead - 3 - Fans Tried To Bring It Back - So Far So Good. Dose This Mean Conventions Next ? Then A Movie. (let's just hope the infamous Trek Curse don't apply to this film series) Then A Few More Films. Then A New Series. (SWAT Kats : The Next Generation) Then A Second Series. (SWAT Kats : Deep SWAT Nine) Then A Third Series. (SWAT Kats : Voyager) Then A 30th Annivesary Party! Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ yes he's a trekker too - weird huh ? - --------------------------------------- A! JW2 PI++~?i^" P+ Do $+++ Ay64 M - --------------------------------------- loopy something or other geek code of somekind ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 19:03:59 -0700 Subject: Re: Some thoughts on SK: The Movie and A VERY *WICKED* IDEA! >IMHO I see that SK: The Movie can come in the following categories: >- traditional animation. See Disney Classics features. I think they'ed look better if animated by Streamline Pictures (See Cashan-Robot Hunter). >- live-action. I'm the guy that gets Felina at the end of the movie!!! >- Muppets (hand-controlled). See The Dark Crystal That would be kinda cute in an sorta explosave way! >- Muppets (with people inside). See Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Movie Why not live action\computer animation! >- 3-D animation (realistic-kind). See ID4. >- 3-D animation (cartoon-kind). See ReBoot. You mean totally computer generated! I'd go for that! >Any opinions? :-) Shem? (I'm having @%$# trouble typing in the lettera "A" and "S" so sue me O^3 ) >-Get Steven Spielberg of SKG. Ask him to buy the copyright to SK (very >nicely, of course). Re-launch SK ! now THAT I could go for. Hopefully Ambulin won't do the animation. ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. Http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 19:14:51 -0700 Subject: Re: Oops! On my part and Questions Series Continuity >*Did anyone notice how "Pops" in 'Bright and Shiny Future" fur color appear >differently in the Present and Alternate Future? Wrong paint color? T-Bone and Razor looked different too in the future. Probably it's just the lighting in the future. >*If the SWAT Kats were blown up earlier in the alternate time-period, how >will changing the Alternative Future prevent the SWAT Kats from meeting >their demise. Easy. The SWAT Kats from the past know what the Pastmaster's going to do, so they find some form of pertection, or way so that they don't blow up in the fatal battle. Since the Pastmaster always shifts through time, it would be impossible to prevent the future change, but just simple decoys and wait for their past selves to finish the job they alread completed would have them edge around their own demise. Simple huh? ;) >Unless of course, they stopped the Pastmaster in the Present >from creating the Alternative Future. (Confusing, huh?) :-P They threw the Pastmaster back into the future, therefore, not being able to turn him over to the authorities, and even then, the Pastmaster would find a way to mess up the future anyway. ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. Http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 19:56:51 -0700 Subject: Re: Introduction/Fanfiction update >> You never asked me anything of the sort, and besides, I finished FCNL #2 >> already and I'm going to send it to Ryan today. What do you mean by "host >> the next issue"? > >Ryan's hosting it? I HAVE TO ROOM ON MY WEBSITE! His FTP stuff dosn't seem to be working correctly, so he mails it to me, I send him a ten page thing saying how cool it is, then someont hosts it. I clould leech off of someone though. >Oh... > WRONG! >so I guess that I don't need Edo to send me the first issue, I'VE GOT IT! My FTP prochedures work fine. >Ryan needs it more than I do. :) No way! I've have it times two! I don't need another copy! >since Ryan's is just the right size.. I specially made it to your requirements... only... I made one without the crescent moon which I thought I gave you! Oh well! That one looks better. ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. Http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 20:02:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Some thoughts on SK: The Movie and A VERY *WICKED* IDEA! Pastmaster writes: > >IMHO I see that SK: The Movie can come in the following categories: > >- traditional animation. See Disney Classics features. > > I think they'ed look better if animated by Streamline Pictures (See > Cashan-Robot Hunter). Streamline or Mook? I'll admit that I've never seen anything by Streamline, so I can't say anything there. I really liked Mook's work with the second-season episodes, but the first-season episodes by Hanho Heung-Up seemed better animated to me. > Why not live action\computer animation! Are you suggesting, perhaps, live-action stuff with computer-generated backgrounds and displays (i.e., like in the Turbokat)? Personally, after seeing how cartoons translate to the live-action medium, I'd prefer to keep them in animation. TMNT didn't transfer over too badly, although I'm not so sure how agile the live-action versions of the SWAT Kats would be (unless we're just talking a lot of makeup, a la the musical "Cats"). > >- 3-D animation (realistic-kind). See ID4. > >- 3-D animation (cartoon-kind). See ReBoot. > > You mean totally computer generated! I'd go for that! There goes the budget, I guess... ;-) Oh, and before I forget... I've modified the headers slightly once again in the kats listmail, this time to omit the "Reply-To:" headers. This way, it's easier to redirect a personal comment via email rather than forward it to the list (and personal email can *always* be rerouted to the list, btw!). - -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================== "Hey, whoa! I'm the *good guy*, remember?!" -- Razor ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #4 ************************ ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n005' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:11:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #5 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Tuesday, 3 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 005 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: packrat@magicbus.com Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 22:44:28 -0500 Subject: SK movie Well I'm tryin out this new list for the first time.... I think I'm responsible for the bulk of the new E-Mail on the Magicbus... aw well. As to the SK movie I recommend Traditional animation or puppets like TMNT the movie or like Labyrinth. Totally computer generated just doesn't look good and I'm not sure about about partially computer generated stuff. That partial computer animation doesn't always look to good (a la Johnny Quest). Spielburg would be a good director, and if you have the traditional animation why not get Disney to do it (a la Gargoyles) that be really cool. T-Bone "Ahhhhhh Boogeymen!" - Homer Simpson ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #5 ************************ ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n006' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:11:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #6 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Thursday, 5 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 006 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julian Ho" Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:20:55 +0800 Subject: Re: Is SWAT Kats The Star Trek Of Cartoondom ? > Q - Is SWAT Kats The Star Trek Of Cartoondom ? > > A - Well, Lets Look At The Facts.......... > > 1 - Lasted Only A Few Seasons - > 2 - Canceled By A Network Pinhead - > 3 - Fans Tried To Bring It Back - ......... > ......Then A 30th Annivesary Party! I think you can also add in *Print SWAT ||Kats Bumper stickers and paste them all over tED & Co.'s cars.* ;-> Note: there is a similarity between Trek and the SWAT ||Kats. Does the word "assimilate" sounds familar to you? I'm sure it does. ************JULIAN HO************ |\_/| SWAT ||Kats: The Radical Squadron \ / IS FUREVER !! V "Ptooey!...* Furball*!" - Razor Coming soon, my own web page! ------------------------------ From: owner-kats Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 04:02:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [none] >From razor Wed Sep 4 03:59:41 1996 Message-Id: <199609041300.VAA16906@merlion.singnet.com.sg> From: "Julian Ho" To: "SWAT ||Kats Mailing List" Subject: Just wondering... Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:59:15 +0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats' in the message body I wonder if the SWAT ||Kats are going to be exported to Japan. Look what happens when The Transformers get to The Land of The Rising Sun, they turn into new ainme TV series. All Japanese flavour of course :) If this should ever happensto the SWAT ||Kats, then SWAT ||Kats is Anime! The COUNTDOWN begins. Just a few hours to "S.K.I.Q" on the local TV. :-( ************JULIAN HO************ |\_/| SWAT ||Kats: The Radical Squadron \ / IS FUREVER !! V Razor: "Whoah! He does have eyes on the back of his head" T-Bone :"No excuses." Coming soon, my own web page! ------------------------------ From: Simon Leet Wai Leong Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 21:45:02 +0800 Subject: Re: Some thoughts on SK: The Movie and A VERY *WICKED* IDEA! At 07:32 PM 9/3/96 +0800, you wrote: >IMHO I see that SK: The Movie can come in the following categories: >- traditional animation. See Disney Classics features. >- live-action. >- Muppets (hand-controlled). See The Dark Crystal >- Muppets (with people inside). See Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Movie >- 3-D animation (realistic-kind). See ID4. >- 3-D animation (cartoon-kind). See ReBoot. >Any opinions? :-) Given the choice, I'd have to go with ... none of the above! I think animation is certainly the way to go, but defintely not "traditional" or "Disney"! (Come to think of it, Disney isn't really all that traditional now.) Akira the movie would be a better model and given the amount of cool stuff you can do with subtle CGI these days, You could pull off a whole bunch of sequences otherwise too complex to do (Something with 5 to 6 layers of parallax while scrolling something in three dimensions ie. towards/away from the viewer and up/down, left/right at the same time.) CGI also makes for modelling certain effects really cool (Like misting) - -Simon Leet :) "Figures. All my life, I've fought against imperialism. Now, suddenly, I AM the expanding Russian frontier." "But with very nice borders." Ivanova and Dr. Franklin, Babylon 5 ------------------------------ From: chance Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 07:12:52 -0700 Subject: Re: Kat stuff At 02:28 PM 9/3/96 -0700, you wrote: >> *Did anyone notice how "Pops" in 'Bright and Shiny Future" fur color appear >> differently in the Present and Alternate Future? Wrong paint color? > >Possibly. Or the lighting was different. Nah...that episode was full of retakes when it came back from overseas. The first scene with Pops was called, as were a number of subsequent scenes for color model problems, dark patches, continuity glitches, misspellings and the like. The file on rat labelled "editing.jpg" is actually Davis Doi viewing one such retake fresh from overseas for further glitches. ------------------------------ From: chance Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 07:12:54 -0700 Subject: We were right...they were wrong. No prizes. Well, just heard from some of those exiting Hanna-Barbera today on the heels of the disaster that JQ is turning out to be, and thought some of them have already secured other gigs, the rest get to face the chorus of "I told ya so"'s from friends at other shops. In fact, it's now reported to be so bad that one guy told me "there's hardly any executives here anymore....anyone who's worth anything has already left". Sad, huh? One acquaintance who was earlier willing to ride out the storm that would ensue subsequent to a JQ failure also packed his bags and left. Dunno what's going to happen now. One might hope that they cut off JQ at the 52 eps committed to, and get someone like Potamkin in there again to restart the Kats. That is, if H-B survives the year without folding its post-merger tent. My only concern is that people like Davis Doi, Lance Falk and the others over there *with* the talent and integrity to make something like "SwatKats" will be dragged down with the sinking ship. They don't deserve it, but I can think of a great many more in the Tedco chain-of-command that do. Anyway...it'll be fun on rec.arts.animation for the next little bit. One of Tedco's spin-doctors has been putting in the occasional appearance. I'm going to try a bit of a sharp Kats vs. JQ post without being too abrasive on the personal level. Might be fun. I'll post the appropriate responses here and the NG. Later. ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 12:07:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Some thoughts on SK: The Movie and A VERY *WICKED* IDEA! On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Dana Uehara wrote: > Streamline or Mook? I'll admit that I've never seen anything by > Streamline, so I can't say anything there. >From what Ryan's told me, they use like 5 shades of color for shading! > I really liked Mook's work with the second-season episodes, but the > first-season episodes by Hanho Heung-Up seemed better animated to me. Really? Hanho animated at about 15fps. Mook animates at 20+fps. > "Hey, woah! I'm the good guy, remember?" -Razor Oh, so I see you've played WORMS with my SK sound set, too? A.J. Freda | |\ /| |\ /| |\ /| S ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us| | \___/ | | \___/ | | \___/ | W "Tails" on IRC | | | | | | | A - ------------------------ | S K | | S K | | S K | T \ / \ / \ / K \ / \ / \ / A \ / \ / \ / T S - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit SWAT Kats on the Web: Good Resource Site : http://rat.org/kats/ Some pics and AVIs : http://megakat.maxie.com/ One of my favorites! : http://www.macsonic.org/sk/ SK's UltraPlex : http://www.nethosting.com/~jf9183 Ryan's SM and SK site: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927 Matt's SK Page : http://www.mich.com/~mweb/animation.html Michael's Web Page : http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/3224/ Awesome SK Page! : http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS SWAT Kats Kode Version 1.1: CP356/CR356 A+++++ D+ M P++ T+++ W RL- a13 cw++ d+ e-- f+ h* i p* Zm ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 12:14:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: We were right...they were wrong. No prizes. So what you're saying is that JQ is a failure and that zillions are writing to Toonnet telling them how much they hate it? A.J. Freda | |\ /| |\ /| |\ /| S ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us| | \___/ | | \___/ | | \___/ | W "Tails" on IRC | | | | | | | A - ------------------------ | S K | | S K | | S K | T \ / \ / \ / K \ / \ / \ / A \ / \ / \ / T S - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit SWAT Kats on the Web: Good Resource Site : http://rat.org/kats/ Some pics and AVIs : http://megakat.maxie.com/ One of my favorites! : http://www.macsonic.org/sk/ SK's UltraPlex : http://www.nethosting.com/~jf9183 Ryan's SM and SK site: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927 Matt's SK Page : http://www.mich.com/~mweb/animation.html Michael's Web Page : http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/3224/ Awesome SK Page! : http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS SWAT Kats Kode Version 1.1: CP356/CR356 A+++++ D+ M P++ T+++ W RL- a13 cw++ d+ e-- f+ h* i p* Zm ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 13:57:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Some thoughts on SK: The Movie and A VERY *WICKED* IDEA! ARTHUR JOHN FREDA writes: > > Streamline or Mook? I'll admit that I've never seen anything by > > Streamline, so I can't say anything there. > > >From what Ryan's told me, they use like 5 shades of color for shading! I assume this is in reference to Streamline. Anyone know (or might be able to guess) how many shades of color Mook used in *its* work, especially with respect to "The Deadly Pyramid"? > > I really liked Mook's work with the second-season episodes, but the > > first-season episodes by Hanho Heung-Up seemed better animated to me. > > Really? Hanho animated at about 15fps. Mook animates at 20+fps. I'm evaluating more in terms of character design than the smoothness of animation. I thought the Mook-animated episodes were more off model than those of Hanho Heung-Up, but then again the Mook episodes may have been animated before the final animation sheets were in place (compare the character designs between season 1 and season 2, for example). > > "Hey, woah! I'm the good guy, remember?" -Razor > > Oh, so I see you've played WORMS with my SK sound set, too? Huh??? (That line is from "Katastrophe", in case nobody else noticed...) - -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================== "Hey, whoa! I'm the *good guy*, remember?!" -- Razor ------------------------------ From: "Raphael" Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 19:20:36 +0000 Subject: Re: Apology and Introduction >I've got most of the fanfics, and a few that were never released. I'd be >happy to hand these out. I'll probably say something like that next time I >change my web site again. You have unpublished fanfics? Oooh, please share! >We can't afford to have the same authors writing new stories! I've written a >ton for the world, and I'd like to see new writers out there. Hey, miracle of miracles, I've started working again on the fanfic that I began way back in April. Now, so long as I can keep this momentum up long enough to complete it . . . Erin ************************************************************************ And you're no match for Raphael, Master of the Manhole cover! Heh. What a sucker. *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 17:32:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Some thoughts on SK: The Movie and A VERY *WICKED* IDEA! I know that line is from Katastrophe, and I used it in a sound set I made for an IBM game called WORMS. Just ask Ryan. A.J. Freda | |\ /| |\ /| |\ /| S ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us| | \___/ | | \___/ | | \___/ | W "Tails" on IRC | | | | | | | A - ------------------------ | S K | | S K | | S K | T \ / \ / \ / K \ / \ / \ / A \ / \ / \ / T S - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit SWAT Kats on the Web: Good Resource Site : http://rat.org/kats/ Some pics and AVIs : http://megakat.maxie.com/ One of my favorites! : http://www.macsonic.org/sk/ SK's UltraPlex : http://www.nethosting.com/~jf9183 Ryan's SM and SK site: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927 Matt's SK Page : http://www.mich.com/~mweb/animation.html Michael's Web Page : http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/3224/ Awesome SK Page! : http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS SWAT Kats Kode Version 1.1: CP356/CR356 A+++++ D+ M P++ T+++ W RL- a13 cw++ d+ e-- f+ h* i p* Zm ------------------------------ From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 18:21:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Some thoughts on SK: The Movie and A VERY *WICKED* IDEA! "Streamline"? Are we talking about the same company that regularly butchers all their Anime dubbings? Daniel Pawtowski dpawtows@vt.edu ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 16:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: BOUNCE kats: Approval required (fwd) You might be wondering what that has to do with the list. As it turns out, everything -- or at least a good portion of it. I've been told that the ISP of the person running the site on which this list is based (i.e., maxie.com) is located very close to the coast where Fran is forecast to strike. That may go down, and its downtime is likely uncertain. The list itself should not be affected, but since maxie.com is connected to the rest of the net via that ISP, the list may be unreachable for a time. This will be the only warning I will post to the list. If you don't receive any mail and/or you get an 'unknown host' error within the next couple of days attempting to post mail to the list, that will be why. Questions to me at either 'razor@netcom.com' or 'razor@maxie.com'. - -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================== "Hey, whoa! I'm the *good guy*, remember?!" -- Razor ------------------------------ From: owner-kats Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:37:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [none] > Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 18:45:49 -0700 > Message-Id: <199609050145.SAA14247@unix.infoserve.net> > X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net > X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > To: kats@maxie.com > From: chance > Subject: Swat Kats Pic > > >From: matmilam@juno.com (Matthew B Milam) > >Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 14:54:50 EDT > > > >I need a small swat kats pic of T-Bone and Razor for my web page. Do you > >happen to have one or know where i can get one? > >__________________________________________________________ > >Matthew Milam > >(matmilam@juno.com) > > > > > > Sender: owner-kats Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats' in the message body - -- ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:40:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Last message for the evening The subject line says it all. The AC power supply on my computer died earlier today, so I'll need to get a replacement tomorrow (it died after the computer stores closed), so listmail will be on hold for the rest of the night. (In case anyone's wondering, I'm sending this out from a Kinko's.) w ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #6 ************************ ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n007' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:11:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #7 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Friday, 6 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 007 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Noah Sproat Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 13:43:57 -0600 Subject: Question I've been writing my own SWAT Kats Fan Fictions. What is an address(es) I can send them to? ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [none] Saw a posting on alt.tv.swatkats from Oslo, Norway. Have the Kats been airing there as well? If so, then we can add that to the list of international exposure for the series. We already have Singapore (and possibly even Great Britain). Looks like the list (and the ISP that links maxie.com to the rest of the net) survived Hurricane Fran okay. Unless something else happens to the ISP or maxie.com itself (such as a power outage), the list *should* continue to operate normally. (Sorry, AJ, the storm didn't hit Atlanta...) Some leftover stuff from the last Kats list: I went through one of my tapes, which had taped the Kats' super chunk rerun on the Cartoon Network, but didn't find the SKIQ episode on it. Was it shown during the first Super Chunk? (I think this was around July 15, if I remember properly.) On kat fanfic: I apologize to those who've been clamoring for my fanfic premise, but since I couldn't use my computer last night due to an inoperative power supply the fanfic completion date is on hold. If I don't finish it by this weekend, I'll go ahead and email it to whoever wants it. Keep in mind that this is only a premise and nowhere near a finished story. A couple of things mentioned in previous postings to the list, which I think should be thrown into the FAQ: - - Fanfiction sites - - Kats web sites BTW, I no longer maintain the FAQ. I don't know who is doing so now. - -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================== "Hey, whoa! I'm the *good guy*, remember?!" -- Razor ------------------------------ From: mweb Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 20:05:41 -0400 Subject: Re: At 04:43 PM 9/5/96 -0700, Razor wrote: >Some leftover stuff from the last Kats list: I went through one of >my tapes, which had taped the Kats' super chunk rerun on the Cartoon >Network, but didn't find the SKIQ episode on it. Was it shown during >the first Super Chunk? (I think this was around July 15, if I remember >properly.) If you're speaking of the Superchunck that aired *this* year, then, yes. The SKIQ was the first episode aired during Superchunck, I think. Prior to that time, it had never aired on Cartoon Network and only aired once on TBS, as I recall. I happened to catch it both times on tape. >A couple of things mentioned in previous postings to the list, which >I think should be thrown into the FAQ: >- Fanfiction sites >- Kats web sites >BTW, I no longer maintain the FAQ. I don't know who is doing so now. I'd be willing to put an html-ized version of the FAQ on my web page. I've already got some info there regarding Kats merchandise that was/is available and links to all of the web sites (that I know of). Well, later all! ____________________________________________________ mweb@mich.com aka "Purrcy" http://www.mich.com/~mweb fur code 1.2: FFf3adm A+>++ C- D H+ M+ P R- T++ W-- Z- Sm RLMC/CT a cna+++ d+ e+>++ f+ h- iw++ p sm# ------------------------------ From: packrat@magicbus.com Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:03:30 -0500 Subject: International Kats I don't know if anyone has already said this, but I caught an episode of Swat Kats when my band took a trip to Quebec (it was in English, fortunately!). T-Bone You're so uncute! - Ranma ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:49:08 -0700 Subject: Re: Some thoughts on SK: The Movie and A VERY *WICKED* IDEA! >> >IMHO I see that SK: The Movie can come in the following categories: >> >- traditional animation. See Disney Classics features. >> >> I think they'ed look better if animated by Streamline Pictures (See >> Cashan-Robot Hunter). > >Streamline or Mook? I'll admit that I've never seen anything by >Streamline, so I can't say anything there. What I've seen with Stramline is 5+ shades for a single object that has a surrealistic feel to it. I thought it had some cool qualities, like blinking screens, and the animation wasn't as easiy noticed as animation. >> Why not live action\computer animation! > >Are you suggesting, perhaps, live-action stuff with computer-generated >backgrounds and displays (i.e., like in the Turbokat)? Personally, >after seeing how cartoons translate to the live-action medium, I'd >prefer to keep them in animation. TMNT didn't transfer over too badly, >although I'm not so sure how agile the live-action versions of the SWAT >Kats would be (unless we're just talking a lot of makeup, a la the >musical "Cats"). I was thinking along the lines of ReBoot. >There goes the budget, I guess... ;-) Oh well... It'd be cool to see. >"Hey, whoa! I'm the *good guy*, remember?!" -- Razor "OWW! OWWHOWWW!" -Louie ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. Http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:57:06 -0700 Subject: Re: Is SWAT Kats The Star Trek Of Cartoondom ? >I think you can also add in *Print SWAT ||Kats Bumper stickers and paste >them all over tED & Co.'s cars.* ;-> When I get a car, I'm determined to make a bumper sticker that reads: I brake for SWAT Kats (And of course, "I brake for Sailor Scouts", but that's a WHOLE different story! It goes like ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. Http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:09:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: >I wonder if the SWAT Kats are going to be exported to Japan. tEDDY bEAR probably wouldn't want any more people to see the show. :( >Look what >happens when The Transformers get to The Land of The Rising Sun, "Hey look! The Rising sun of Japan!" -Gichi (some Japanese dude) "The sun is setting, dim wit! ... Oh! You mean symbolicaly... sort of." - -Youri (some Japanese girl) "Hey this show's cool! What is it?" -Gichi "Let's make it into our own series!" -Youri "Ha! So the Tremblay fools thought thet had beaten me? Not by a long shot! And speaking of long shots, just wait til they see my new and improved Real REAL Andventures of Johnney Quest meets Capt. Planet! Right? Of course I'm right! I'M ALWAYS RIGHT!!" -tED tURNER. >If this should ever happens to the SWAT Kats, then SWAT Kats is Anime! If SWAT Kats really was full anime... Chance would have an oversexed nature when he is in Callie's Presence!! ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. Http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:51:48 -0700 Subject: Re: Some thoughts on SK: The Movie and A VERY *WICKED* IDEA! >> >From what Ryan's told me, they use like 5 shades of color for shading! > >I assume this is in reference to Streamline. Anyone know (or might be >able to guess) how many shades of color Mook used in *its* work, >especially with respect to "The Deadly Pyramid"? Hanho uses 2 colors per shade, and Mook uses 2 to 3 (mabye four) colors per shade. (The more colors, the more the shades resemble jagged blotches of color.) >> > I really liked Mook's work with the second-season episodes, but the >> > first-season episodes by Hanho Heung-Up seemed better animated to me. >> >> Really? Hanho animated at about 15fps. Mook animates at 20+fps. > >I'm evaluating more in terms of character design In character design, Razor got this really cute look to him, which makes him look like he's a cuddly ball of fluff, I think. I think Rasor (Too much Spanish! Sorry!) RaZor probably looked best in Mutation City, and everyone else looked better in Deadly Pyrimid. >> > "Hey, woah! I'm the good guy, remember?" -Razor >> >> Oh, so I see you've played WORMS with my SK sound set, too? > >Huh??? >(That line is from "Katastrophe", in case nobody else noticed...) No, he's correct. It's a patch file for the game WORMS that makes a funny game even better. It's really cool. ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. Http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:05:30 -0700 Subject: Re: Some thoughts on SK: The Movie and A VERY *WICKED* IDEA! >"Streamline"? Are we talking about the same company that regularly >butchers all their Anime dubbings? They do?! CRUD! That means I'll have to find a better version than I've got now! Thanks for telling me! ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. Http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: listmail replies > If SWAT Kats really was full anime... With all due respect, I think the "SWAT Kats = anime" thread has been covered more than enough times on the list. I'd put this discussion in the FAQ and prefer not to have any more on it, mainly because it can EASILY digress into a discussion on nothing *but* anime. > In character design, Razor got this really cute look to him, which makes > him look like he's a cuddly ball of fluff, I think. I think Rasor > (Too much Spanish! Sorry!) RaZor probably looked best in Mutation > City, and everyone else looked better in Deadly Pyrimid. I agree that "The Deadly Pyramid" is one of the best-animated Kats episodes that have been done. However, to clarify my original comment that sparked this response, I was comparing Mook's *first-season* work to Hanho Heung-Up's work during the same season. I agree that the second-season episodes practically blew the first-season ones out of the water, but the Kats were drawn a bit more off-model when it came to "takes" (specific reactions). My comment on my .sig: (That line is from "Katastrophe", in case nobody else noticed...) Ryan: No, he's correct. It's a patch file for the game WORMS that makes a funny game even better. It's really cool. I've played WORMS, but my *intended* comment was that the line *originally* came from "Katastrophe". *sigh* I think I need to get my typing down more precise or something... - -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================== "Hey, whoa! I'm the *good guy*, remember?!" -- Razor ------------------------------ From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 22:23:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: > >Look what > >happens when The Transformers get to The Land of The Rising Sun, I'm not sure who posted the original comment, but Transformers has _always_ been Japanese. Daniel Pawtowski dpawtows@vt.edu ------------------------------ From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 22:31:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Some thoughts on SK: The Movie and A VERY *WICKED* IDEA! > > They do?! CRUD! That means I'll have to find a better version than I've got > now! Thanks for telling me! There may be more than one company called "Streamline". The that I'm familiar with was originally founded by Carl Macek, and mostly dubs Japanese Anime into English. Never heard of them actually producing any animation of their own except a few scenes necessary to help make "Robotech: The Movie", which was among the worst flops in U.S. film history. Mostly, they dub stuff into english. Badly. Unfortunately, they have an excellent publicity and marketing department, so they manage to get their badly-translated and poorly-acted dreck onto places like the SciFi Channel regularly. Trust me, if you like the voice actors and musical score of SWAT Kats _at all_, you WILL NOT want Streamline to get ahold of it, they *will* change things (they always pick voice actors from the same small pool, for example). Daniel Pawtowski dpawtows@vt.edu Katsucon Three: The U.S. East Coast's largest Anime/Manga Convention! ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 22:17:35 -0700 Subject: Re: Some thoughts on SK: The Movie and A VERY *WICKED* IDEA! >Trust me, if you like the voice actors and >musical score of SWAT Kats _at all_, you WILL NOT want Streamline to >get ahold of it, they *will* change things. Naw, I'd like the origional voice actors playing their old characters, and I'd just like for them to look good. That's all. After all, I am the SK Extremist (unchalenged!), so what else could you expect? ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. Http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ------------------------------ From: chance Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 22:35:26 -0700 Subject: Re: listmail replies At 07:08 PM 9/5/96 -0700, Dana Uehara wrote: (...well, okay - actually "Ryan wrote"...) >> In character design, Razor got this really cute look to him, which makes >> him look like he's a cuddly ball of fluff, I think. I think Rasor >> (Too much Spanish! Sorry!) RaZor probably looked best in Mutation >> City, and everyone else looked better in Deadly Pyrimid. Toss up for me as to which episode gets the top grade for drawing my favourite kat; "Mutation City" or "Night of the Dark Kat" (y-you know, where it looks like he forgot to shave?). The first-season Mook ones were trying to get a handle on the characters, and by the second, not only were they pretty self-confident with their depictions of the guys, but they even managed to experiment a bit. Compare some of the anime tricks in "Night of the Dark Kat", "Mutation City" and "Deadly Pyramid" to some of the more pedestrian efforts from that season - and finish up with "Unlikely Alloys" to really throw yourself a curve. >I agree that "The Deadly Pyramid" is one of the best-animated Kats >episodes that have been done. However, to clarify my original comment >that sparked this response, I was comparing Mook's *first-season* work >to Hanho Heung-Up's work during the same season. I agree that the >second-season episodes practically blew the first-season ones out of >the water, but the Kats were drawn a bit more off-model when it came to >"takes" (specific reactions). Want a laugh? Compare ANY second-season Kats episode to H-B's current version of the Cadillac. Kats is chrome all the way - JQ is barely fit to adorn a Yugo. >My comment on my .sig: > (That line is from "Katastrophe", in case nobody else noticed...) >Ryan: No, he's correct. It's a patch file for the game WORMS that > makes a funny game even better. It's really cool. > >I've played WORMS, but my *intended* comment was that the line *originally* >came from "Katastrophe". *sigh* I think I need to get my typing down >more precise or something... Nah. Even easier (though it kinda shaves off the "Trivial Pursuit" aspect of your sig) would be to simply add which episode it was from as the last line for those of us that *haven't* seen the entire run fifty times. Nobody *I* know, but then again... >"Hey, whoa! I'm the *good guy*, remember?!" -- Razor "Hey, whoa! Can you have 'Good Guy' and 'moderator' in the same sentence???" Heh. ------------------------------ From: owner-kats Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 20:41:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [none] (d162.infoserve.net [199.175.157.162]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA13568 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 22:43:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 22:43:51 -0700 Message-Id: <199609060543.WAA13568@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: chance Subject: Re: Some thoughts on SK: The Movie and A VERY *WICKED* IDEA! Sender: owner-kats Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats' in the message body At 10:31 PM 9/5/96 -0400, Daniel Pawtowski wrote: >> >> They do?! CRUD! That means I'll have to find a better version than I've got >> now! Thanks for telling me! > > There may be more than one company called "Streamline". The that I'm >familiar with was originally founded by Carl Macek, and mostly dubs >Japanese Anime into English. Trust me, if you like the voice actors and >musical score of SWAT Kats _at all_, you WILL NOT want Streamline to >get ahold of it, they *will* change things (they always pick voice actors >from the same small pool, for example). Yup. One of which is a dude named "Jimmy Flinders". Most of us know him as Cam Clarke ("Leonardo"). The Tremblays know of Macek and Streamline, but when they were talking of a possible Katmovie eons ago, the discussion related to either Mook feature animation (they evidently do a ton of that kind of thing in Nippon), or possibly a live-action take on Megakat City. They got to at least the story stage with H-B's Glenn Leopold, but it was abandoned by Turner after it became clear the series wouldn't make it to the end of the second season schedule. Someone mentioned an all-CGI effort along the lines of "Reboot"? Um..no thanks. I personally find that program hard to watch *because* of the CG stuff - irrespective of how clever the writing is or anything else you care to name. It's a fine computery representation of the possible digitized lifeforms contained within our PC's and Macs, but not at all suitable for something as, well..."human", as our Megakat City friends. The more I think about it, the more I believe that the *only* way to do the movie is via an expensive anime-type process, with a bottomless bank-machine to fund it. Ted must have one of those - that is, unless Peter Lawrence stole that too. ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #7 ************************ ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n008' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:11:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #8 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Saturday, 7 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 008 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: razor@netcom.com Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 16:34:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Administrivia crud This will be the only warning I will post. Anyone I catch sending out mass email messages to other list members (you know who you are) will be warned on the first offense and dropped on the second. Mass emailings to other list members without going through the list is, IMHO, not only unnecessary, but also in violation of the list. In particular, I have a very strong feeling that postings that I either refuse to send through here or heavily edit due to their being very off-topic will sneak through the side list, which defeats the purpose of a moderated list in the first place. Questions, comments or flames to me through email. Thanks and now back to your regularly scheduled listmail. p.s. I don't want this (or any other administrivia) message to discourage or scare anyone from posting to the list; if your message is too much off-topic I'll let you know and give you a chance to repost your message. ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 18:54:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: stuff, various Razor steps down off the soapbox (from the administrivia crud message): Okay, okay, I've calmed down now. But please keep my warning in mind. Sorry to be abrasive (no pun intended) about the whole deal, but getting hit with mass email messages, especially in the past couple of days, have put me on edge. And the content of the recent emails (Jonny Quest versus the Kats) would have been on-topic enough for me to have sent through to the list. My two cents on the issue: I finally caught an episode of Jonny Quest on TBS today. If Turner intends to push this to make up for what happened to the Kats, I'm afraid it isn't enough. About the only major thing I would say that JQ had going for it was its animation -- very nice, especially the computer graphics -- and possibly what the Kats might have evolved into had they been extended to a third season. - -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================== "Hey, whoa! I'm the *good guy*, remember?!" -- Razor ------------------------------ From: chance Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 22:41:47 -0700 Subject: News Warners tells me that a series of high-level meetings are going on this week and next between Turner and Warners. Production people at Warners tell me that the merger is a done deal, and the current slate of meetings is evidently set to determine how the physical act will take place. There would appear to be three choices at present: 1) Warner Brothers Animation (TV) will move into the H-B building alongside whatever remains of H-B and Cartoon Network Animation 2) H-B will dissolve at the Cahuenga Blvd. location and move onto the WB Burbank lot or WBA Sherman Oaks. 3) Space will be found for whatever remains of H-B at Glendale alongside WB Feature Animation. Either way, it looks as though they're going to be sharing management to some extent, and as soon as I get something concrete, I'll hype the Kats to the Powers-That-Be-a'resultin'. Other stuff: I'm hoping to be talking to the Christian Tremblay on the weekend, so I'll pass on a 'Hi!' from us never-say-die Katfans. Also, there seems to be a bit of confusion resulting from the existence of the maxie-katslist and the Incredibly Long List of Discrete E-Addresses that helped fill the void between the ratlist and the new one. I personally think they complement each other, and those that want off the "Other" list just need to mail Paul Kemner to get it done. Besides, the "Other" list kinda serves a parallel purpose for those Katfans tempted to use the forum for IRC-like chit-chat that wouldn't be appropriate for this list. 'Different Strokes' and all that jazz (Ewww...acid flashback) ____________________________________________________________ "Dammit....I told them they should've let me bring The Stick!" - -- Charlton 'Moses' Heston on the set of 'Alaska', after the crew was marooned on a sand bar by the incoming tide! ____________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #8 ************************ ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n009' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:11:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #9 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Sunday, 8 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 009 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julian Ho" Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 00:24:24 +0800 Subject: Non-SK Related! Just more about me... This is just a mail to let everyone know me better. (Refer to Geek Code) 8-] Let's hope Fran passes over soon. ************JULIAN HO************ |\_/| SWAT ||Kats: The Radical Squadron \ / IS FUREVER !! V Razor: "Whoah! He *does* have eyes on the back of his head!" T-Bone : "No excuses." Honor the SWAT Kats Geek Code 1.0 ! CR34/CT34 A++ D+ M- P+++ T++++ W RLU a20 cn+++ d+ e+ f- h** i++ p* sm Zm ------------------------------ From: mweb Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 20:13:11 -0400 Subject: Re: stuff, various At 06:54 PM 09/06/96 -0700, Razor wrote: >My two cents on the issue: I finally caught an episode of Jonny Quest >on TBS today. If Turner intends to push this to make up for what >happened to the Kats, I'm afraid it isn't enough. About the only major >thing I would say that JQ had going for it was its animation -- very >nice, especially the computer graphics -- and possibly what the Kats >might have evolved into had they been extended to a third season. ACK! I would hope it isn't what the Kats might have evolved into.. Is it just me or does it seem that JQ is Capt. Planet with just a different cast? Save the elephants.. Save the Ozone layer.. Blah, blah, blah.. Sorry Mr. Turner. I won't, er, *can't* watch! Uh, Mr. Warner?? Would you please bring back the Kats? ____________________________________________________ mweb@mich.com aka "Purrcy" http://www.mich.com/~mweb fur code 1.2: FFf3adm A+>++ C- D H+ M+ P R- T++ W-- Z- Sm RLMC/CT a cna+++ d+ e+>++ f+ h- iw++ p sm# ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 18:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: stuff, various mweb writes: > At 06:54 PM 09/06/96 -0700, Razor wrote: > >I finally caught an episode of Jonny Quest on TBS today. > > ACK! I would hope it isn't what the Kats might have evolved into.. Is it > just me or does it seem that JQ is Capt. Planet with just a different cast? > Save the elephants.. Save the Ozone layer.. Blah, blah, blah.. I wasn't referring to the story, as the story wasn't the best. (I mean, how believable is a storyline where the Vice President of the U.S. is an alien? ) But I *did* like the animation, particularly a couple of scenes which were supposed to show a VR video game. Those really looked good (CGI, maybe?). Can you imagine the Turbokat with CGI rendering? And the Kats have done their own Captain Planet episode. Remember "Caverns of Horror"? - -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================== "You just blew our secret identities!" "What secret identities? We're the only talking ducks on the planet!" ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 18:36:35 -0700 Subject: Re: stuff, various >ACK! I would hope it isn't what the Kats might have evolved into.. Is it >just me or does it seem that JQ is Capt. Planet with just a different cast? Johnney DID sound like that guy who had the ring of fire! >Save the elephants.. Save the Ozone layer.. Blah, blah, blah.. I don't watch it because the first ep was such a turn off >Sorry Mr. Turner. I won't, er, *can't* watch! Forget him! If He's no longer head Uh, Mr. Warner?? Would you please bring back the Kats? What's his E-Mail address anyway? ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. Http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 18:42:27 -0700 Subject: Re: stuff, various >> >I finally caught an episode of Jonny Quest on TBS today. >> >> ACK! I would hope it isn't what the Kats might have evolved into.. > >I wasn't referring to the story, as the story wasn't the best. You've got that right! >But I *did* like the animation, Come on! Even I could do better than that, and 90% of the time, I draw like I'm on drugs! (I'm not, but it sure looks that way!) >And the Kats have done their own Captain Planet episode. Remember >"Caverns of Horror"? I liked it the way it was! ;) ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. Http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ------------------------------ From: chance Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 19:10:26 -0700 Subject: Re: stuff, various At 06:36 PM 9/7/96 -0700, Pastmaster wrote: >Forget him! If He's no longer head Ehh...worst possible case is that he's left in charge of whatever he brought to the resulting partnership, at least nominally, as official Second Banana in the resulting Republic. The sad fact is that Warners doesn't really give a damn about Hanna-Barbera, and likely consider it to be similar to that old car that we all have kicking around on our property somewhere - you hate to scrap it, but it just doesn't run the way it used to, and you don't really *need* two anyway. >>Uh, Mr. Warner?? Would you please bring back the Kats? >What's his E-Mail address anyway? Um..."realdead@six.feet.under.com"...and the "he" was actually a "they", and the last one expired quite some time ago. Terry Semel is head of the studio, and a dude named, I think, Gerald Levin is head of Time-Warner's TV stuff in general. Warners really fleshed out their animation slate this year, and WBN wants to program a strip late this year or early next, with the intention of going to something like a "Disney Afternoon" block in the future. Not quite sure of the timeframe involved. They'll need animated programming, and if "Rovers" does well in the ratings this season, I doubt "SwatKats" would be a hard sell if H-B is already under the corporate wing. Still...the execs involved in ironing out the merger trivialities at the moment are described as "having little savvy in terms of animation", so who knows??? ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 22:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Back issues of the digest now available! The subject line says it all. For those of you who just joined, or who haven't been following the digests from the beginning, back issues of the kats digests are now available. To get them, send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with: 'index kats-digest' in the message body to get a listing of file names; 'get kats-digest ' in the message body to get a specific file. The first one or two digests are mainly test posts (when the list was still being refined ;-). Otherwise, the rest of the digests should be retrievable. If you have problems getting the back issues of the digests, please let me know as soon as possible. Thanks. ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #9 ************************ ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n010' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:11:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #10 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Monday, 9 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 010 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jesus Fernandez Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 21:52:49 -0500 Subject: Huh? Okay... looking at AJ's sig.. I decided to click on Edo's site, just to see what happens.. and I notice... it's there. I also downloaded the first issue of the newsletter. So what happened? Hmm.. maybe I got transported to the past when I read email from 2-3 weeks ago. Or maybe a alternate universe where Edo's site exists and _my _ site is closed down.. (That's why I couldn't get to it!) Help! - -JF P.S.:If I did get tranported to the past then I can watch SK in AA! yay! What if I got sent all the way into the past a couple of years.. I can do a 12-monkeys bit warning everyone about SK's untimely demise! (Watch out my imaginations running away with me!) ------------------------------ From: Noah Sproat Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 21:09:30 -0600 Subject: To Anyone Who Can Tell Me... SWAT Kats is my obsession, but... Oh... This is so hard to admit... MY CABLE COMPANY DOESN'T CARRY CARTOON NETWORK!!!!! I HAVEN'T SEEN THE SHOW FOR OVER A YEAR!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! ... Can anyone tell me if Mad Kat and Hard Drive have real names? E-mail: sproatne@utah-inter.net "We're police officers; we aren't trained for violence!" ------------------------------ From: chance Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:13:15 -0700 Subject: Re: Huh? >P.S.:If I did get tranported to the past then I can watch SK in AA! yay! >What if I got sent all the way into the past a couple of years.. I can >do a 12-monkeys bit warning everyone about SK's untimely demise! (Watch >out my imaginations running away with me!) Would've been nice if such an individual could've warned the Tremblay Bros. before they inked the contract with the Original Satan (oh wait - that's reserverd for Saddam, isn't it?). We wouldn't have the Kats of course, but we would've saved the Bros. unnecessary exposure to the whims of Ted. ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 21:42:27 -0700 Subject: Re: To Anyone Who Can Tell Me... >SWAT Kats is my obsession, but... Not as much of an obsession compaired to mine! >MY CABLE COMPANY DOESN'T CARRY CARTOON NETWORK!!!!! >I HAVEN'T SEEN THE SHOW FOR OVER A YEAR!!!!! S'okay. I'm trying to forget it for a few reasons myself. (1. I end up writing really weird comidies, and 2. So when I watch an ep again, I'll be blown away the first time I saw that ep!) >... >Can anyone tell me if Mad Kat and Hard Drive have real names? They never said their real names on the show, so my guess is as good as yours. >"We're police officers; we aren't trained for violence!" "We're TV execs; we aren't out to entertain millions!" -tED ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist, Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 21:55:37 -0700 Subject: Re: Huh? >Okay... looking at AJ's sig... AJ! Delete Edo's stie! Edo's got the tED virus! (a few tED virus symptoms [not limated to, and not all symptoms have to be present]-depression, demolishing web site, trashing his\her own fanfic, cutting him\herself from all other kats activities, taping over SK recordings, etc...) >I decided to click on Edo's site, just to >see what happens.. and I notice... it's there. YES!!!!!!! I was able to talk him into putting it back up! I don't know how long the sit's going to be open for, so I'd suggest downloading everything now. I have both issues of the FNCL, and now I'm looking for someone to put it on their website (I have a 1Mb barrier on my page!). Anyone else want to carry it (or have it downloaded in private E-Mail)? >Hmm.. maybe I got >transported to the past when I read email from 2-3 weeks ago. Or maybe a >alternate universe where Edo's site exists and _my >_ site is closed down. If you see the Pastmaster anywhere near you, throw him my way! ;) >(That's why I couldn't get to it!) Help! I'll see if I can get to it. Expect to hear from me in about five days. :( (Gosh I hate school!) ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist, Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 22:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Kat stuff, various > if your message is too much off-topic I'll let you know and give you > a chance to repost your message. I think this may have raised a bit of confusion as to what's on-topic and what isn't. Anything directly Kats-related, such as comments on specific episodes, characters, fanfiction, web sites, etc. is definitely on-topic. Comments on H-B, Turner (and their programming) or even news of the Warner-Turner merger is less on-topic, but still (within reason) valid discussion material for the list. Anime or Warner Bros. programming is NOT on-topic, *unless* you can make a clear connection between it and the Kats in your post. Point is, use common sense as to what an on-topic post is. This list was started as a forum for the discussion about the Kats, its cancellation, and a possible (tho right now unlikely) revival. Let's try to keep it that way, okay? Noah: > Can anyone tell me if Mad Kat and Hard Drive have real names? The closest that Madkat had to a real name was Lenny Ringtail, but that's because Ringtail 'merged' with him. And all that's really known about Hard Drive's background is that prior to "Night of the Dark Kat" (season 1) he kept breaking into ATMs. (He must have seen "Terminator 2" or something. ;-) - -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================== "You just blew our secret identities!" "What secret identities? We're the only talking ducks on the planet!" ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #10 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n011' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:11:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #11 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Tuesday, 10 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 011 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: chance Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:05:08 -0700 Subject: Re: To Anyone Who Can Tell Me... At 09:09 PM 9/8/96 -0600, Noah Sproat wrote: >SWAT Kats is my obsession, but... > >Oh... >This is so hard to admit... > >MY CABLE COMPANY DOESN'T CARRY CARTOON NETWORK!!!!! >I HAVEN'T SEEN THE SHOW FOR OVER A YEAR!!!!! Just a year? Wow...a good memory'll get you through that - I haven't seen a broadcast ep since Xmas '94. >AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA >AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA >AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! What he said... ... >Can anyone tell me if Mad Kat and Hard Drive have real names? Yip. Before his Close Encounter of the Antique Store Kind, our favourite supernatural court jester was a failed comedian by the name of Lenny Ringtail. Ringtail resonated with the ancient spirit trapped within the Jerk-in-the-box because both individuals were wronged at some point in their past by a person or persons which became the subject of long-simmering thoughts of revenge. In the ancient jester's case, it was"The King, The Queen, and the Knight", whereas Ringtail himself really only gave us a line of dialogue that indicated his resentment of David Litterbin. Initially, the Tremblay Bros. presented the character design for "Mad Kat" to the production team, but when writer Glenn Leopold asked for a back story to go with the imagery, the Bros. indicated that they really hadn't thought it through to that extent. Leopold kind of "filled in the blanks" as it were, and concocted the story that became "Enter the Mad Kat". Mad Kat was obviously not intended as a one-shot villain (much like the villain "The Ghost Pilot"), as H-B went through all the hoops required to include him in the material sent to potential licensees. For the record, the Tremblays weren't overly impressed with the final depiction of Mad Kat in that episode, the comment being that "he looked too rounded", as opposed to the more angular anime-feel that were intended in the concept sketches ------------------------------ From: Noah Sproat Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:30:11 -0600 Subject: Wha's JQ?! What's this JQ everyone's talkin' about?! Is it some new and crappy show, put on the air to appease viewers inflamed by the cancellation of SWAT Kats?! (BTW, I find the tED bashing jokes kinda distasteful.) NO-- DON'T TELL ME! I don' wanna know... ... I *was* recording SK, but I decided to record over them because I saw it pointless and had *assumed* that SK would still be on the air. I PUT MY *TRUST* IN SOMETHING AND IT WAS FAILED HORRIBLY! ...my therapy was very long and excruciating... ...even today...I turn to TBS and can't help but quietly ask, "Why?" Then I'm not so quiet. "I'M GONNA KILL!! I'M GONNA HAVE THE SWEET AROMA OF BLOOD FLOWING THROUGH MY EVERY BREATH, AND I'M GONNA SAVOR EVERY MOMENT OF IT!" ... Well, I guess I'm just as *sane* as the next obsessed SK fanatic. E-mail: sproatne@utah-inter.net I'm sane! Really! I just have too much time on my hands... ------------------------------ From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 14:35:35 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Wha's JQ?! > What's this JQ everyone's talkin' about?! Is it some new and crappy show, > put on the air to appease viewers inflamed by the cancellation of SWAT JQ stands for "Johnny Quest". It's actually a rather old cartoon show from back in the 70's. It's pretty much unbroadcastable now, as it is _exceedingly_ Politically Incorrect. If you can swallow the racial sterotyping, though, it's quite good. A "new" version has just started up, made by TNT, and they're mostly using the "JQ" initials rather than the full title. Most old Johnny Quest fans think it's quite poor compared to the original, from what I've seen on the net (haven't seen an episode of the new series myself). If you want to see the original, check fan clubs for somebody with copies. No, it has nothing to do with SWAT Kats other than it happens to be the current high-profile animated show being put out by Turner. I don't think it's any sort of SWAT Kat "replacement", I suspect that JQ would be on the air just as it is now even if SK was still in production, Turner is fully capable of putting out more than one show at a time. It seems unlikely that the success or failure of JQ will affect the probability of a future SK series. However, if SK is started up again by some miracle, I imagine that the same animators currently doing JQ would likely end up on the project, so they'd end up looking similar. Given the lead time necessary for assembling a major cartoon series, it is highly likely that JQ was being worked on for some time *before* SK was canceled. Daniel Pawtowski dpawtows@vt.edu ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 16:08:43 -0400 Subject: Re: To Anyone Who Can Tell Me... >For the record, the Tremblays weren't overly impressed with the final >depiction of Mad Kat in that episode, the comment being that "he >looked too rounded", as opposed to the more angular anime-feel that were >intended in the concept sketches > A lot of guys looked "too rounded" in that episode, or "bubbly" as I like to refer to it--that happened to be Hanho's style in season 1 (though he *did* do some great work in "Cry Turmoil"). Check out T-B and Razor when they walk into Feral/Steele's office before Mad kat goes for Callie. I didn't care for this episode, for a few reasons. The Litterbin stuff was hilarious (actually, not his jokes, but they were at least tasteful and a bit like Letterman's style). BTW, what was Letterman's reaction to Litterbin? Does he even *know*? Anyway, it was cute and not something a lot of 'action' tv shows would dare to do (unlike stuff like Animaniacs and Tiny Toons, who'll insult anybody at any expense). After all, they did drop him from a building and have him katnapped by a giant clown. As for the bad parts, like I said the animation wasn't good, and Mad Kat was *awful*. His jokes were not only pure pun, but *bad* pun. Come on, the guy just *wasn't funny*. He was *annoying,* more than anything. He wasn't the bad guy you love to hate, like the Pastmaster or maybe Dark Kat or Dr. Viper--you just wanted the SWAT Kats to kick his tail so he'd get off the screen and *shut up*. As for the plot, what was this thing about collecting the jester, king, queen, knight, and so on? Is this some sort of history Mad Kat (the demon, not Lenny Ringtail) had that they couldn't find time to explain in 22 minute? Everything kind of came out of the blue. Steele was annoying, as usual, but I suppose that's his job. That guy in the labcoat who didn't look like any scientist or historian who *deserves* to be in a labcoat, has one of the more annoying voices of the show. Thank G-d he didn't have that many lines. All together, a just plain *annoying* episode; I'm glad Mad Kat didn't make a second appearance. Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: chance Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:25:43 -0700 Subject: Re: To Anyone Who Can Tell Me... At 04:08 PM 9/9/96 -0400, DJ Clawson wrote: > As for the plot, what was this thing about collecting the jester, king, >queen, knight, and so on? Is this some sort of history Mad Kat (the demon, >not Lenny Ringtail) had that they couldn't find time to explain in 22 >minute? Everything kind of came out of the blue. The ancient jester that Ringtail kinda 'merged' with had been imprisoned in the box by "The King, The Queen, and the Knight" way back in eons past. Madkat does spout one-or-two lines to this effect during the show, but I can't recall it verbatim. ------------------------------ From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 06:51:13 -0700 Subject: Re: Kat stuff, various Road Rovers (SWAT Kats After A Spieces Change Operation.) Well This Is A Slap In The Face To tED tURNER, Why ? Because It's Very Close To Being A Clone Of SWAT Kats, tED You Had A Show Just Like This And You Canned It ? If You Didn't, You Could Be In Direct Compatition With Kid's WB, But NOOOOOOOOOOOO (Great Bill Murry Impression) You Said It Was Too Violent, You Said It Wasn't Selling Merchendice, (Any Bets That Rovers Will Sell Tons Of Toys And Stuff Fellow Kats ?) You Said This, We Have Proof ! BTW - We Could Convert Rovers Stuff Into Kats Stuff, What Do You Think Fellow Kats ? Well, tED Who's Laughing Now ? WARNER BROTHERS ! (Insert Maniac Laugh Here - Bwah Ha Ha Ha) END RANT MODE ! I Just Had To Get That Off My Chest, Sorry. Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ Who's Thinking About Putting Up A Road Rovers Page, Just To Rub It Into tED's Face Even More =) Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers - -------------------------------------------------------- SWAT Kats : The Radical Squadron : Geek Kode Version 1.0 CR/CT8 A++ D+ M++ P++ T W RLAT a t C++dw d++ e* f h i+++wk p* sm Zm http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm - - OR - http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 20:04:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FCNL #1 vs. FCNL #2 New things in the FCNL #2!: Improved character cutouts from screen grabs. Reccommended viewing: 800x600x256 colors BETTER gradient backgrounds! More than just one person sending fan mail! Callie throws a fit over fan mail! Pastmaster looks into the future! (I'm not telling ANYONE what he meant.) Dr. Konway boasts his expertise! BTW, Has anyone heard of the new Sonic the Hedgehog Anime? If so, tell me where I can get my hands on an English-dubbed version! Well, as you can see, FCNL #2 is MUCH more improved than FCNL #1. Don't forget to send Callie FanMail! A.J. Freda | |\ /| |\ /| |\ /| S ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us| | \___/ | | \___/ | | \___/ | W "Tails" on IRC | | | | | | | A - ------------------------ | S K | | S K | | S K | T \ / \ / \ / K \ / \ / \ / A \ / \ / \ / T S - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit SWAT Kats on the Web: Good Resource Site : http://rat.org/kats/ Some pics and AVIs : http://megakat.maxie.com/ One of my favorites! : http://www.macsonic.org/sk/ SK's UltraPlex : http://www.nethosting.com/~jf9183 Ryan's SM and SK site: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927 Matt's SK Page : http://www.mich.com/~mweb/animation.html Michael's Web Page : http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/3224/ Awesome SK Page! : http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS SWAT Kats Kode Version 1.1: CP356/CR356 A+++++ D+ M P++ T+++ W RL- a13 cw++ d+ e-- f+ h* i p* Zm ------------------------------ From: mweb Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 20:41:12 -0400 Subject: Re: Kat stuff, various > Road Rovers (SWAT Kats After A Spieces Change Operation.) > Well This Is A Slap In The Face To tED tURNER, Why ? > Because It's Very Close To Being A Clone Of SWAT Kats, I wouldn't go as far as saying RR is a "clone" of SK. It does have some similarities, however. On WB's web page, RR is described as an "action/comedy" show; whereas SK is an "action/adventure". The only _real_ ac/av WB has now is B:TAS & Superman, both of which are based on DC comics characters. All the other KidsWB shows are mostly comedy in nature. This is a real opportunity for SK to fill a gap that the WB has in the lineup! Both B:TAS & SM are a little too "realistic" for my tastes (don't get me wrong - I do like to watch). The SKs are just a whole lot more, er.. Radical! Although RR may have some similarities, WB, IMO, has *nothing* like SK & should pick it up ASAP! >Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers I found this line very interesting when I heard it Saturday. I wonder if it was one of those little jabs taken at Turner for the blunder, or just a coincidence? ____________________________________________________ mweb@mich.com aka "Purrcy" http://www.mich.com/~mweb fur code 1.2: FFf3adm A+>++ C- D H+ M+ P R- T++ W-- Z- Sm RLMC/CT a cna+++ d+ e+>++ f+ h- iw++ p sm# ------------------------------ From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 18:03:06 -0700 Subject: My Site Is Now 95% Done..... YES ! THANK YOU ! YAHOO ! This Past Couple Of Weeks I've Been Busy Trying To Finish My Site, And The Only Thing That Needs To Be Done On The Megakat City Page Is The HTML Edition Of Kats Eye Newsletter, But This Won't Be Typed Untill Some More News Comes Out About This Whole TIME-WARNER/tURNER Thing. (Okay ?) On The Fanfic Page, No One Wants To Help With, The War On Atlanta : The Sequel, So I'll Tell Everyone My Plans For The Rest Of It, Cause I'm Doing It Alone, So If You Don't Like It, You'll Know Why ! In The Rest Of Act One - A Battle Royal Between Everyone And A Bunch Of tEDklones, Then Nick Inge (sp) Arrives With The Tremblys (sp) And Informs The Group That The Real SWAT Kats Are Being Held Prisoners In tEDco's Dungon. (End Of Act One) In Act Two - The Group Plans To Rescue The Kats From tEDco's Dungon With Help From WBA's Toons. First The Kats Fans Deal With The Klones, This Is To Distract tED, While The WBA Toons Sneak Around To The Back Of tEDco To Rescue The Kats, There's Always A Back Door, The Bad Guys Use It For Escape, So They'll Be Back Next Episode =) (End Of Act Two) In Act Three - (The Last Act In A Movie Script) The Kats Escape With Help From The WBA Toons, They Get The Turbokat Out Of The Hangar Where ur-tED Hid It, The WBA Toons Team Up With The Kats To Destroy tEDco Once And For All ! (GIGANTIC EXPLOSION - Inspired By ID4 !) Afterwards There's A Party Held By Everyone, Rosting Marshmellows Over The Burning Remains Of tEDco, Then We All Live Happly Ever After. (THE END) - Sorry No Plans For A 3rd Movie - As For The Rest Of My Site, It's Done ! Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca - 'Woulfe' On Furry MUCK & Furtoonia. ^^^^ Well, Isn't That Nice, NARF ! Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers - -------------------------------------------------------- SWAT Kats : The Radical Squadron : Geek Kode Version 1.0 CR/CT8 A++ D+ M++ P++ T W RLAT a t C++dw d++ e* f h i+++wk p* sm Zm http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm - - OR - http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm ------------------------------ From: chance Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 19:34:31 -0700 Subject: Swat Rovers... At 06:51 AM 9/9/96 -0700, Chris Tom Cimafranca wrote: > Road Rovers (SWAT Kats After A Spieces Change Operation.) > Well This Is A Slap In The Face To tED tURNER, Why ? > You Said It Was Too Violent, You Said It Wasn't Selling > Merchendice, (Any Bets That Rovers Will Sell Tons Of Toys > And Stuff Fellow Kats ?) You Said This, We Have Proof ! > BTW - We Could Convert Rovers Stuff Into Kats Stuff, >Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers Dunno if there's any link, but enough people sure seem to think there is. I'd check for myself but Canada doesn't appear to have access to the Dogs in much the same vein as we couldn't get the Kats. From what I've heard, Rovers is downright juvenile for the most part; something we certainly couldn't accuse Kats of on the worst of days ("Katpuns" notwithstanding). ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 20:09:58 -0700 Subject: Re: Huh? ===== [ Note: this was originally sent as two posts; I'm consolidating them into one. In the future, and this goes for everyone on the list, please try to consolidate your posts. This is a mailing list, *not* a newsgroup. Thanks. -- Mod. ] ===== >>>I decided to click on Edo's site, just to >>>see what happens.. and I notice... it's there. >> >>YES!!!!!!! I was able to talk him into putting it back up! I don't know how >>long the sit's going to be open for, so I'd suggest downloading everything >>now. > >What's the address? Forget what I said. He's probably shut it down by now. He sent me a letter describing himself like I would describe tED, asking me not to write back. I'm gonna, after all. On the internet, I'm an in-your-face kinda guy, but THIS! (P.S. Consider him dead!! :( From: Pastmaster Subject: Re: Wha's JQ?! To: kats@maxie.com >What's this JQ everyone's talkin' about?! Is it some new and crappy show, That's all you need to know! >... I *was* recording SK, but I decided to record over them because I saw >it pointless and had *assumed* that SK would still be on the air. I PUT MY >*TRUST* IN SOMETHING AND IT WAS FAILED HORRIBLY! Just like Edo (only now he dosn't care at the loss? BTW, his site's gonna be closed down today, tomarrow, or it was yesterday. >:( My psychology failed!) >Well, I guess I'm just as *sane* as the next obsessed SK fanatic. I'm worse! (P.S. Never settle for second!) >I'm sane! Really! I just have too much time on my hands... I'm sane, just I don't get out enough! ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist, Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 01:58:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Kat Rovers? Been hearing a bit about Road Rovers, not just on the list, but from some friends as well. Sadly, though, I missed Saturday's premiere. But I'm sure I'll be able to catch it on reruns, unless somehow this series gets cancelled midway through its first season. (I'll reserve my comments on the show -- and comparison/contrast to the Kats -- until then.) Some odds and ends from previous postings: chance: I haven't seen a broadcast ep since Xmas '94. Well, yeah, but don't you have the episodes on tape? ;-) For the record, the Tremblays weren't overly impressed with the final depiction of Mad Kat in that episode, the comment being that "he looked too rounded", as opposed to the more angular anime-feel that were intended in the concept sketches. The irony of this comment is that Mook animated "Enter The Madkat," unless that was misattributed in the credits. For those of you who aren't aware, Mook animated all of the second-season episodes, which I assume have that "angular anime-feel" that's being referred to in the above comment. Daniel: I don't think it's any sort of SWAT Kat "replacement", I suspect that JQ would be on the air just as it is now even if SK was still in production. I had the impression that work on JQ was under way before the Kats were even cancelled. I checked out the Hanna-Barbera booth at the San Diego Comic-Con in 1995, and H-B was really pushing JQ at the time (no mention of the Kats, though one of my friends said he was talking to the H-B reps at the booth about the Kats; I wasn't able to pluck up the courage to do so myself). I'd thought that H-B was supposed to come out with a JQ feature film (in-theater release or direct-to-video release), but I was probably mistaken. However, if SK is started up again by some miracle, I imagine that the same animators currently doing JQ would likely end up on the project, so they'd end up looking similar. This one, I think, is hard to say. H-B appears to have been farming out a lot of its animation lately to studios like Mook, Hanho Heung-Up, and others (I don't remember which one did JQ), mainly because I've heard it's cheaper to do so than to use in-house animators. DJ: Mad Kat was *awful*. His jokes were not only pure pun, but *bad* pun. Come on, the guy just *wasn't funny*. He was *annoying,* more than anything. That could have been a reflection on Lenny Ringtail, too. Remember that he was the king of late-night comedy until Litterbin took his place. (Of course, that's probably not saying much for the quality of late-night programming in Megakat City!) And since Ringtail was part of Madkat, the bad puns, etc. may have been part of *his* and not Madkat's nature. (Am I grasping at straws here?) I'm glad Mad Kat didn't make a second appearance. Hmm... if Steel(e) had merged with Madkat instead of Ringtail...? Naah... chance: From what I've heard, Rovers is downright juvenile for the most part; something we certainly couldn't accuse Kats of on the worst of days ("Katpuns" notwithstanding). Well, it could be more that the Kats balance out their juvenile parts with their body count (or perhaps more emphasis on the body count!), unlike other shows which have been edited and/or sanitized for your protection. Yeah, right. :-P Checked out alt.tv.swatkats today (does anyone in the list get or read that newsgroup?) and came across an interesting comparison/contrast between T-Bone and Razor: T-Bone mainly flies the jet, but Razor does a lot of the legwork (weapons designer, the knight in shining armor, etc.). T-Bone mostly gives moral support, whereas Razor actually "leads" the group (a very bad comparison would be to Laurel and Hardy, where Stan Laurel was actually the brains of the duo). Comments? (How about hearing from some of you lurkers out there?) - -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================== "You just blew our secret identities!" "What secret identities? We're the only talking ducks on the planet!" ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #11 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n012' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #12 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Wednesday, 11 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 012 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julian Ho" Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 20:16:02 +0800 Subject: Lurker De-Lurking AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Sorry, folks! :-) This will never happen again. Just suffering from Post-SKIQ Syndrome, and the Days Without SWAT Kats. I'm curious about Range Rover but *sigh* it probably won't be here till next year. So nothing to comment about R.R. *Arf!* Captain Planet really goes down the drain as time goes by. :-) It's polluted by tED! I'm really sorry that a good show like Johnny Quest and SWAT Kats, and a good company like HB is losing its former glory. :-( I wish I could see tED's face when the SWAT Kats are back and better than ever! :-D *sigh!* ************JULIAN HO************ "Oh, no! I'm beginning to understand a *BEAR*!" -Boris the Russian Winter-Goose, from "BALTO". |\_/| SWAT ||Kats: The Radical Squadron \ / IS FUREVER !! V Honor the SWAT Kats Geek Code 1.0 ! CR34/CT34 A++ D+ M- P+++ T++++ W RLU a20 cn+++ d+ e+ f- h** i++ p* sm Zm Coming soon, my own web page! ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:12:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Kat stuff, various On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, mweb wrote: > I wouldn't go as far as saying RR is a "clone" of SK. It does have some > similarities, however. On WB's web page, RR is described as an > "action/comedy" show; whereas SK is an "action/adventure". Naw, Freakazoid is more action/adventure. I wouldn't mind WB reviving Kats, as long as Mook still gets to animate it. (Or me!) :) ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us| | \___/ | | \___/ | | \___/ | W "Tails" on IRC | | | | | | | A - ------------------------ | S K | | S K | | S K | T \ / \ / \ / K \ / \ / \ / A \ / \ / \ / T S - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit SWAT Kats on the Web: Good Resource Site : http://rat.org/kats/ Some pics and AVIs : http://megakat.maxie.com/ One of my favorites! : http://www.macsonic.org/sk/ SK's UltraPlex : http://www.nethosting.com/~jf9183 Ryan's SM and SK site: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927 Matt's SK Page : http://www.mich.com/~mweb/animation.html Michael's Web Page : http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/3224/ Awesome SK Page! : http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS SWAT Kats Kode Version 1.1: CP356/CR356 A+++++ D+ M P++ T+++ W RL- a13 cw++ d+ e-- f+ h* i p* Zm ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:19:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Kat Rovers? It must have been the wrong credits that you watched. HanHo. Did "Enter the MadKat". I can tell the difference between the two animation companies with both of my eyes closed. :) One way to tell is that you didn't see any anime blurs in the background in "Enter....". "Fish heads, Fish heads, roly-poly fish heads! Fish heads, fish heads, eat them up, Yum!" -Some oldies song. A.J. Freda | |\ /| |\ /| |\ /| S ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us| | \___/ | | \___/ | | \___/ | W "Tails" on IRC | | | | | | | A - ------------------------ | S K | | S K | | S K | T \ / \ / \ / K \ / \ / \ / A \ / \ / \ / T S - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit SWAT Kats on the Web: Good Resource Site : http://rat.org/kats/ Some pics and AVIs : http://megakat.maxie.com/ One of my favorites! : http://www.macsonic.org/sk/ SK's UltraPlex : http://www.nethosting.com/~jf9183 Ryan's SM and SK site: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927 Matt's SK Page : http://www.mich.com/~mweb/animation.html Michael's Web Page : http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/3224/ Awesome SK Page! : http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS SWAT Kats Kode Version 1.1: CP356/CR356 A+++++ D+ M P++ T+++ W RL- a13 cw++ d+ e-- f+ h* i p* Zm ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Meow? Decided to check up on something and went through one of my tapes that had "Enter The Madkat" on it. Turned out that it was Hanho Heung-Up, *not* Mook (yes, AJ, you *were* right) that animated that particular episode. Not one of HHU's better-animated episodes, either ("Destructive Nature", for example, was an episode that I thought was better animated). Among the episodes that I *do* remember being animated by Mook from the first season: "Night of the Dark Kat," "The Wrath of Dark Kat" (I think, not fully sure about that one) and "Katastrophe". Maybe someone ought to compile a list of which episodes were done by which animation houses (tho the second-season episodes are really easy to categorize ;-). BTW, the routers between maxie and netcom seem to have been acting up quite a bit lately, so expect listmail traffic to be somewhat spotty until the routers become stable again. I've also been having problems logging into my ISP, so don't panic if listmail traffic seems to slow down a bit -- at least until things get back on track. - -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================== "You just blew our secret identities!" "What secret identities? We're the only talking ducks on the planet!" ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 11:10:02 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: My Site Is Now 95% Done..... I'm already doing something similar to that. If you haven't checked out my bi-monthly FCNL yet, you should. Oh yeah, I never said that that SWAT Kats Kode was a GEEK code. BTW, cool site. Wish I had graphics. :) A.J. Freda | |\ /| |\ /| |\ /| S ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us| | \___/ | | \___/ | | \___/ | W "Tails" on IRC | | | | | | | A - ------------------------ | S K | | S K | | S K | T \ / \ / \ / K \ / \ / \ / A \ / \ / \ / T S - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit SWAT Kats on the Web: Good Resource Site : http://rat.org/kats/ Some pics and AVIs : http://megakat.maxie.com/ One of my favorites! : http://www.macsonic.org/sk/ SK's UltraPlex : http://www.nethosting.com/~jf9183 Ryan's SM and SK site: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927 Matt's SK Page : http://www.mich.com/~mweb/animation.html Michael's Web Page : http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/3224/ Awesome SK Page! : http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS SWAT Kats Kode Version 1.1: CP356/CR356 A+++++ D+ M P++ T+++ W RL- a13 cw++ d+ e-- f+ h* i p* Zm ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 20:04:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Meow? Ok, Here goes: 1st Season Eps. Animated by Mook: "Night of the Dark Kat" "Metal Urgency" "Katastrophe" "The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice" All other eps. were animated by HanHo. A.J. Freda | |\ /| |\ /| |\ /| S ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us| | \___/ | | \___/ | | \___/ | W "Tails" on IRC | | | | | | | A - ------------------------ | S K | | S K | | S K | T \ / \ / \ / K \ / \ / \ / A \ / \ / \ / T S - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit SWAT Kats on the Web: Good Resource Site : http://rat.org/kats/ Some pics and AVIs : http://megakat.maxie.com/ One of my favorites! : http://www.macsonic.org/sk/ SK's UltraPlex : http://www.nethosting.com/~jf9183 Ryan's SM and SK site: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927 Matt's SK Page : http://www.mich.com/~mweb/animation.html Michael's Web Page : http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/3224/ Awesome SK Page! : http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS SWAT Kats Kode Version 1.1: CP356/CR356 A+++++ D+ M P++ T+++ W RL- a13 cw++ d+ e-- f+ h* i p* Zm ------------------------------ From: mweb Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:59:13 -0400 Subject: Re: Swat Rovers... At 07:34 PM 09/09/96 -0700, you wrote: >Dunno if there's any link, but enough people sure seem to think there is. >I'd check for myself but Canada doesn't appear to have access to the >Dogs in much the same vein as we couldn't get the Kats. From what I've >heard, Rovers is downright juvenile for the most part; something we certainly >couldn't accuse Kats of on the worst of days ("Katpuns" notwithstanding). I wouldn't go as far as saying RR was juvenile. Afterall, SK's target audience was 6-11 year olds. And since RR has only had the one episode with all the expository background story, I'd say it's unfair to put them into that category at this point. You have to remember that SK didn't really have a "beginning" episode which focused solely on who they are & where they came from. It was sorta thrown in almost as a second thought as a flashback in the middle of the overall plot. Razor to Chance: "Remember what happend the last time we met Dark Kat?"... ____________________________________________________ mweb@mich.com aka "Purrcy" http://www.mich.com/~mweb fur code 1.2: FFf3adm A+>++ C- D H+ M+ P R- T++ W-- Z- Sm RLMC/CT a cna+++ d+ e+>++ f+ h- iw++ p sm# ------------------------------ From: mweb Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 22:03:56 -0400 Subject: web page update Just a quick note that I did some upgrades to my web page which now includes more info on SWAT Kat merchandise, along with some pictures (only a few left to add). Also, the htmlized FAQ should be ready before too much longer. http://www.mich.com/~mweb ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:15:34 -0700 Subject: Re: My Site Is Now 95% Done..... >YES ! THANK YOU ! Hey, I like getting praise for no reason! Thanx! (^3= YAHOO ! No, that's a web search engine! > > This Past Couple Of Weeks I've Been Busy Trying > To Finish My Site, And The Only Thing That Needs > To Be Done On The Megakat City Page Is The HTML > Edition Of Kats Eye Newsletter, Speaking of NEWSLETTERS, why not host AJ's newsletters? (only five dolla!) ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist, Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:15:30 -0700 Subject: Re: FCNL #1 vs. FCNL #2 >Improved character cutouts from screen grabs. The cover background was much better too! >Reccommended viewing: 800x600x256 colors I highly recomend this for the FNCL 2! I've seen it! It's as cool as the first one! >BTW, Has anyone heard of the new Sonic the Hedgehog Anime? If so, tell me >where I can get my hands on an English-dubbed version! > >Well, as you can see, FCNL #2 is MUCH more improved than FCNL #1. Don't >forget to send Callie FanMail! Just as important, someone needs to put it someplace! I would, but I can't. What's cooler is that it takes up less space, but the quality is better. It won't take up THAT much space. It fits easily on a high density dish with mucho... er... a lot of space to spare! ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist, Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ------------------------------ From: owner-kats Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 21:13:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: T. E. D. (Sneek Peek Of Rest Of Act One) DJ Clawson wrote: > > > Uh - Witch Movie ? - Getting Them All Mixed Up Now ! > > > > Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca > > ^^^^ If You Mean T. E. D. - Well I'm Putting > > It On Hold Untill I Finish The Sequel > > To War On Atlanta, Because I > > HATE Typing =) > > Yeah, that's the one I meant. T.E.D. T. E. D. (Plans For Act One Only, Do Not Look.) =============================================== I've Decided To Let EVRYONE Know What I'm Planing, At Least For The Rest Of Act One, Cause That's How Far I'll Go Untill I Find Some More Free Time To Work On It, Damn Job =) The Rest Of Act One (Drumroll, Please) Okay, We Find Out The Name Of The Limo Driver (It Ain't Fred BTW =) ) tED Left Him At The TEXAKAT Station, So He's Left To His Own Devices. (In The Back Of My Head I See Him Having To Make A Tough Choice, Between His Loyalty To tED And What He Thinks Is The Right Thing To Do, How's That For Drama !) As For The Kats Themselves, A Few More Scenes At The Garage, Watching Cartoons, Then Burke & Murry Show Up To Give Them A Hard Time, Then Leave, The News Comes On There's A Report About An Alien, (The Limo Driver, This Is The Starting Point Of My Plot For The Act As Seen Above.) In Megakat City Being Interviewed By Ann Gora Of Katseye News. (You Knew That Of Course, But This Is Just A Rough Idea Of The Script, And Not The Script Itself, I Tend To Put A Lot Of Thought Into The Script, So It Might Change From This.) End Of Act One Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ Is So Much Better At Writting In Script Style Than Normal Story Telling Style. Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers --------------------------------------------------- SWAT Kats : The Radical Squadron : Kode Version 1.0 CR/CT8 A++ D+ M++ P++ T W RLAT a t C++dw d++ e* f h i+++wk p* sm Zm http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm - OR - http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #12 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n013' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #13 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Thursday, 12 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 013 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Zax Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:41:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Swat Kats World Has anyone ever given any thoughts as to politics on Katworld? Since they never seem to mention a larger government organization other then the city, I suppose that the world is divided into varios City-States. (The "reference" to MASA , Megacat Aeronautics and Space Administration Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 15:36:40 -0700 Subject: SWAT Kats / Road Rovers Okay, I'm Gonna Clear This Up, Right Now ! My Last Post Was A Jab At How tED tURNER Thinks, He Would Make The Leap That Road Rovers Is The Same As SWAT Kats ! (I Beg To Differ But, I Am Talking About The tEDster's Way Of Thinking.) He May Have Seen It, But Still Would Think That The Two We're Alike, Despite The Facts ! (We Know What The Facts Are, We Don't Need To Post Them For All The World To See.) Anyhow, tED Would Use The Show As A 'I Was Right And You Were Wrong.' If The Show Fails, But If The Show Succeeds, We Could Also Use It For 'We Were Right, You Were Wrong.' See It Works Both Ways, That's Why The Rant Had To Happen. If Rovers Fails Big Time, tED Would Also Use It As An Excuese Not To Bring Back Kats ! (Based On A Nightmare I Just Had, Scary !) tED I Refuse To Bring Back SWAT Kats ! Kats Fans Oh, What Is It This Time ? tED Road Rovers Failed, And It's The Same ! Kats Fans No It's Not The Same, They Are As Different As Night And Day, Black And White, Kats And Dogs. (Bad Pun, Kill Chris, Down Boy !) tED I Don't Care ! (Oh My God, The Truth !) (I'll Stop There, The Nightmare Gets Worse.) Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ Has Had Nightmares Over The Past Few Days, All With tED In Them, I'm Afraid ! - --------------------------------------------------- SWAT Kats : The Radical Squadron : Kode Version 1.0 CR/CT8 A++ D+ M++ P++ T W RLAT a t C++dw d++ e* f h i+++wk p* sm Zm http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm - - OR - http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers ------------------------------ From: matmilam@juno.com (Matthew B Milam) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 20:03:41 EDT Subject: While were on the subject of Edo.. It took me two weeks to get Edo to update my web site for Swat Kats and other shows. If someone would like to go to my web page and look at it, then send me e-mail about changes or comments it would be appreciated. http://www.macsonic.org/milam Thank you __________________________________________________________ Matthew Milam (matmilam@juno.com) ------------------------------ From: Faolchuu Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 18:13:34 -0600 Subject: Re: Swat Kats World At 06:41 PM 9/11/96 -0400, Zax wrote: >Has anyone ever given any thoughts as to politics on Katworld? >Since they never seem to mention a larger government organization other >then the city, I suppose that the world is divided into varios >City-States. (The "reference" to MASA , Megacat Aeronautics and Space >Administration >Any ideas? Megakat City might be made up of a large city and some surrounding rural land, like Singapore, Hong Kong, Mauritius or Malta, for example. Those nations (okay, Hong Kong ISN'T technically a nation) thrive because of economic trade, but ARE independent nations. >Trekie, Babyloonie, Furrie Damn, I thought we killed all those Trekkies! _ ___ _ _ V __ | __ |__ / | ^ | | | | | | | | |-- / \ | | | | | | | | | / V \ -- - -- - - --^- | - ______ ______ / | / / / _____ | | / _____ / / | | / / / /| / | / / / | |/ / ------------------------------ From: Zax Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 22:30:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Swat Kats World > Megakat City might be made up of a large city and some surrounding rural > land, like Singapore, Hong Kong, Mauritius or Malta, for example. Those > nations (okay, Hong Kong ISN'T technically a nation) thrive because of > economic trade, but ARE independent nations. Yes, but do you suppose the entire planet is made up like that? And the tech level dosn't seem that high tech considering they still need oil for fuel. I would placed the techlevel at early 21st century equiliv, [approx 2O15]. ________________________________________________________________________ Commander Zax Trekie, Babyloonie, Furrie "Logic is a little bird tweeting in a meadow; logic is a wreath of pretty flowers that smell...bad!" Obligatory Web Page plug: http://village.ios.com/~zzul518 Engineering Webpage: U.S.S. Avenger, NCC 1860 _____________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: Paul Kemner Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 23:44:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Swat Kats World >Has anyone ever given any thoughts as to politics on Katworld? I go along with the theory that there aren't huge nations, as a rule. Maybe since cats aren't pack animals (at least the Felis genus), kats share the same traits. It's difficult for them to give up too much control to a big representative government. At least with a city-state, the MKCity kats can personally keep an eye on Manx. =^^= ------------------------------ From: Faolchuu Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 22:04:36 -0600 Subject: Re: Swat Kats World At 10:30 PM 9/11/96 -0400, Zax wrote: >> Megakat City might be made up of a large city and some surrounding rural >> land, like Singapore, Hong Kong, Mauritius or Malta, for example. Those >> nations (okay, Hong Kong ISN'T technically a nation) thrive because of >> economic trade, but ARE independent nations. > >Yes, but do you suppose the entire planet is made up like that? > >And the tech level dosn't seem that high tech considering they still need >oil for fuel. I would placed the techlevel at early 21st century equiliv, >[approx 2O15]. I doubt the rest of the world is like that. But Megakat City does appear to have a large world importance. Assuming the rest of the world would be based on the real world, Megakat could be based on an American settlement in a former American territory, now independent. It could have been called Megakat because over a million settlers came in a very short period of time. It could be a large island, probably off the coast of North America or northeast Asia. Or maybe Megakat's location and executive political situation are never supposed to be explained to viewers. Those are my theories. ^_^ _ ___ _ _ V __ | __ |__ / | ^ | | | | | | | | |-- / \ | | | | | | | | | / V \ -- - -- - - --^- | - ______ ______ / | / / / _____ | | / _____ / / | | / / / /| / | / / / | |/ / ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 21:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Administrivia crud: .signature files I've decided to (as of this posting) edit .sig files that contain more than four lines of non-Kats material. I don't know about anyone else, but I really hate to have *my* bandwidth taken up by 9- or 10-line .sig files that really do nothing more than display ASCII art, no matter how cute it may seem. Signature files with relevant Kats information (such as AJ's) won't be edited, although if I find this being abused I'll edit out .sig files entirely. Questions to me in email. ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 21:53:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Swat Kats World Faolchuu writes: > Assuming the rest of the world would be based on the real world, > Megakat could be based on an American settlement in a former American > territory, now independent. In "When Strikes Mutilor" the Aqueans (sp?) were originally written to have been humans, which would have indicated that Megakat City isn't on Earth, tho probably on an Earthlike planet. Megakat City to me seems more like a metropolis, sort of like Gotham City is for Batman. I'd say that it isn't a particular city per se (Megakat State Beach, for example, is very much like Malibu, while Alkatraz Island is clearly based off Alcatraz Island in the San Francisco Bay area), however; it's rather a conglomerate of different cities. > It could have been called Megakat because over a million settlers came > in a very short period of time. Or because Megakat City's a megapolis, comprised of nothing but kats (as possibly compared to the rest of the planet), which would give it the basis for its name. (Hey, for all we know the Kats and Road Rovers could be on the same planet! Yeah, *riiiight*...) > Or maybe Megakat's location and executive political situation are never > supposed to be explained to viewers. Ann Gora said in "Enter The Madkat" that "Megakat City has no king... just a *mayor*!" My impression is that the role of "mayor" is more that of a status than a functional office, like Great Britain, especially since Callie does most, if not all, of the legwork for Manx, whose primary occupations are golf and trying to get foreign investors interested in his projects in the city. (Which brings up the question - -- where *do* the foreign investors come from, anyway?) > Those are my theories. ^_^ And they could be perfectly valid, for all we know! ;-) ------------------------------ From: Faolchuu Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 23:06:58 -0600 Subject: Re: Swat Kats World At 11:44 PM 9/11/96 -0400, you wrote: >>Has anyone ever given any thoughts as to politics on Katworld? > >I go along with the theory that there aren't huge nations, as a rule. Maybe >since cats aren't pack animals (at least the Felis genus), kats share the >same traits. It's difficult for them to give up too much control to a big >representative government. At least with a city-state, the MKCity kats can >personally keep an eye on Manx. >=^^= Wouldn't that lead the greater possibility of wars going on in a lot of places? Kats on Katworld are still VERY humane and socially oriented. Lions are felines with a social infrastructure, and because of that they organize in packs, the only felines that do so. Cats are wonderful people (if you spoil them enough to make them think they are equal IF not superior to you). I have three; Aliya, Winston and Annabel. - -- Noah Sproat Cafe Eblana-Lite Mailing List Member SWAT Kats Mailing List Member ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #13 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n014' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #14 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Friday, 13 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 014 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matmilam@juno.com (Matthew B Milam) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 03:38:32 EDT Subject: Web page is UP!!! Alright everyone...The Web page is up. Go to: http://members.aol.com/matmilam Tell me what you think __________________________________________________________ Matthew Milam (matmilam@juno.com) ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 07:41:09 -0400 Subject: Re: Swat Kats World I support the City-State idea. Why? Mayor Manx apparently has *nobody* to answer to. He never refers to his superiors, never a "governer" or anything of that order. The implication is that the MegaWar in which the Red Lynx met his end was fought over the skies of MegaKat City, but noplace else. If there is a centralized government elsewhere in the world, they sure do not have much of an interest in MegaKat City, since they never bother to show up to help out when horrible disasters occur. Kind of like the United States at times. - ----- Dr. Samuel Konway Khemist and Representative of the Red Claws Disaster Service flogistn@vivanet.com ------------------------------ From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 07:36:43 -0700 Subject: Re: Swat Kats World Dana Uehara wrote: > (Hey, for all we know the Kats and Road Rovers could be on the same > planet! Yeah, *riiiight*...) You Knew I'd Reply To That Theroy - NO, Sorry The Rovers Are NOT On The Same Planet As The Kats, What Are You Trying To Do To Me, Give Me Another Nightmare About tED tURNER ! (Goes Into Yet Another Nightmare About tED tURNER) tED (Talking To The Lawyers From Where Ever) Let's Put Rovers On The New SWAT Kats Show ! Kats Fans NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ! Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ Who Now Has Really Weird Ideas For The War On Atlanta : The Sequel - --------------------------------------------------- SWAT Kats : The Radical Squadron : Kode Version 1.0 CR/CT8 A++ D+ M++ P++ T W RLAT a t C++dw d++ e* f h i+++wk p* sm Zm http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm - - OR - http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers ------------------------------ From: Faolchuu Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 08:44:06 -0600 Subject: Re: Swat Kats World >Oh- and I'd say that lions organize in harems, not packs. Haven't seen any >evidence of THAT in MKCity! Sorry, my mistake (about harems). I guess I think too much for my own good. Noah "Faolchuu" "I refuse to drop 'Faolchuu'" "Okay, I'll adopt an SK-rated handle" "Hard Drive" Sproat "Nihongo o no mane o suranaide kudasai." -- Me ------------------------------ From: packrat@magicbus.com Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 14:59:54 -0500 Subject: Better SK? Look I don't want to get into another arguement about who is better (tho personally I think it's me!). Jake and I each have our different strengths that compliment each other, and we work together (even tho I could kick his tail easily!). Jake does not lead the team. We work together giving each other advice on the areas we kno most about. Like I take Jake's orders when it comes to weapons and he takes mine when it comes to flying. Got that? T-Bone "Best Pilot in all of Megakat *um... well, whatever political system we got*!" "Excuse me! I've never parallal parked a fig newton before!" - Packrat ------------------------------ From: packrat@magicbus.com Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 15:03:18 -0500 Subject: SK video game? Does anyone kno what the SK video game for SNES is like? Is it a flying game (like Pilot Wings?) or is it like Mario? By the way, there's a new show with giant crimefighting Cats (with a c) it's a dubbed anime called Saban's Samurai Pizza Cats. It's really pretty good. T-Bone "Oh, Mr. Saotoame you really do pick the worst times to turn into a panda!" - Kasumi - Ranma 1/2 ------------------------------ From: Tango LightMoogle Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 17:09:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: SK video game? At 03:03 PM 9/12/96 -0500, you wrote: >Does anyone kno what the SK video game for SNES is like? Is it a flying >game (like Pilot Wings?) or is it like Mario? The game was a sidescroller, pretty much, with a few exceptions being Mode 7 Flying stages.. The game was actually pretty good, but unfortunately came out during the wave of Side Scrollers on SNES, so it was, how shall I put this, drowned. - -Tango "Mmm...Forbidden Donut.." ------------------------------ From: Hard Drive Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 15:16:09 -0600 Subject: Re: SK video game? At 03:03 PM 9/12/96 -0500, you wrote: >Does anyone kno what the SK video game for SNES is like? Is it a flying >game (like Pilot Wings?) or is it like Mario? I haven't played it, but Nintendo Power and Game Players magazines both said it was crap. Formerly "Faolchuu" Noah Sproat "Hard Drive" "Nihongo o no mane o suranaide kudasai." -- Me ------------------------------ From: rbeavers@cycor.ca (Robert) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 17:35:30 +0100 Subject: Re: Swat Kats World >Ann Gora said in "Enter The Madkat" that "Megakat City has no king... >just a *mayor*!" My impression is that the role of "mayor" is more >that of a status than a functional office, like Great Britain, especially >since Callie does most, if not all, of the legwork for Manx, whose >primary occupations are golf and trying to get foreign investors >interested in his projects in the city. (Which brings up the question >- -- where *do* the foreign investors come from, anyway?) Hmm... good question. The foreign investors that made occasional appearances seemed like siamese cats. On Earth they would probably be from some sort of Asian country (just a guess...) Sooo.... I suppose that makes them from the Far East (probably a kat Japan or China, since they're investing abroad!) My $0.02 worth, Charlotte Beavers ------------------------------ From: "Raphael" Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:15:53 +0000 Subject: Re: SK video game? >At 03:03 PM 9/12/96 -0500, you wrote: >>Does anyone kno what the SK video game for SNES is like? Is it a flying >>game (like Pilot Wings?) or is it like Mario? >I haven't played it, but Nintendo Power and Game Players magazines both said >it was crap. I didn't think it was that bad. Not "Oh wow, super fantastic!", but not "crap", either. (Nint. Power & Game Players were probably paid by tED to discourage anyone from supporting the Kats ) Erin *******************istr2198@fox.nstn.ca**************************** "Hello, Mustard?" , "OK, so my Japanese is a little rusty" *********************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 18:13:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Swat Kats World Admittedly, the real reason for this is yet another standard Cartoon convention in the U.S., where the writers try to make no reference to the location of the show's settings. Theoretically, I think the standard excuse given for this is that the kids the show is targeted at are supposed to end up thinking that the show is set near them. However, we have to work with what we've got. I, too, support the "City State" theory as the best fit, although it's not perfect. Manx sure dosen't _act_ like he's the sole authority over a city of millions, he goofs off way too much for that, and Callie can't be doing *all* the work herself. On there other hand, there certainly have been occasions when Feral would have at least _tried_ to go over Manx's head or appealed to some sort of "MegaKat City Council" if one existed. There are plenty of unanswered questions floating about: Do they _have_ a military? We saw an aircraft carrier in "Ghost Pilot", but the Enforcers seem to have zero sea capability otherwise. The lone appearance would seem to suggest that it was a Navy ship that had come in to drop off the Blue Manx fighter, and left afterwards (er, after getting it's bridge repaired, that is :-). On the other paw, if there were a military out there, then *somebody* else should have shown up to shoot at Mutilor's ship. Draining the ocean would threaten the whole planet. If there was time to build the ThunderTruck, get into combat, and _then_ go back and fix the TurboKat, then there should have been time for jets from some other City-State to arrive. On yet another manipulatory digit, *somebody* must be buying all those high-tech weapons that PumaDyne keeps building (provided they actually complete one without it being stolen/blown up by a supervillian :-). And we've seen foregin investors, oil tankers coming from somewhere, etc. Admittedly, the SWAT Kat universe was just not designed to hold up under this kind of scrutiny. Heck, I can't even come up with a half-decent explanation of how MKC survived before the TurboKat was built. "There were no major supervillians back then" just dosen't cut it. Daniel Pawtowski dpawtows@vt.edu ------------------------------ From: Zax Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 19:18:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Swat Kats World Would Katworld have a UC [United Cities], equivilent of the UN? Interesting.... ------------------------------ From: Hard Drive Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 18:17:45 -0600 Subject: Re: Swat Kats World The city-state idea still doesn't make sense (to me). If kats on Katworld are social enough to organize cities and the concept of rank, then they're social enough to form nations. But think about something: The biggest metropolis in the world, Tokyo/Yokohama/Kawasaki, Japan, has 26 million people, but Japan as a whole has 125 million people, a 1:4.8 ratio. The second largest, New York, has 16 million, and the U.S. as a whole has 264 million, a 1:16.5 ratio. Then there's still Oosaka/Kyooto/Koobe, Nagoya/Gifu, Sapporo, and other large cities in Japan which take other huge chunks out of the population. Same in the U.S. My point is while the vast majority of the Earth's population lives in cities, that doesn't mean ALL of the Earth's people live in cities. In physically large nations like U.S., Australia, China and Russia, the people aren't evenly distributed. Australia, another example, has about 18 million people, but when you take away Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide, Perth and Canberra, there aren't that many people left. But also take in mind that not all nations are large in area, but still have a lot of people, with some rural land to spare. Singapore: 2.9 million people; 247 sq. mi. Mauritius: 1.1 million people; 788 sq. mi. Compare to New York City's five boroughs: 7.3 million people; 301 sq. mi., or Los Angeles (not including surrounding townships): 3.5 million people; 465 sq. mi. My point is that Katworld may not be that different from Earth. =^^= Noah Sproat "Hard Drive" "Nihongo o no mane o suranaide kudasai." -- Watashi ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:46:32 -0400 Subject: Re: Swat Kats World Daniel Pawtowski wrote: > ...saw an aircraft carrier in "Ghost Pilot", but the Enforcers seem to > have zero sea capability otherwise. Kats don't like water. > Heck, I can't even come up with a > half-decent explanation of how MKC survived before the TurboKat was > built. "There were no major supervillians back then" just dosen't > cut it. This is one of those questions that everyone asks but then never tries to think about too much. It hurts the brain. Before there were Swat Kats? There were two extremely talented Enforcers, and others like them. Unfortunately, when Feral took over command of the Enforcers, the whole organization went downhill. Let's be honest. Feral is a *terrible* leader. His overwrought ego and denial of responsibility caused him to lose the two best fighter-jockeys he had, and very likely, anyone else who was any good threw down his helmet and said, "To heck with THIS crud." Thus, the Enforcers are reduced to a barely-competent gaggle of Keystone Kops, and it is only through the efforts of the two Ex-Enforcers that the city manages to survive the continued threats. - ------ Dr. Samuel Konway Senior Can You Tell I'm Pissed At My Company's Management Chemist Avid Therapeutics Philadelphia, PA flogistn@vivanet.com ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:19:55 -0400 Subject: Re: Swat Kats World At 07:18 PM 9/12/96 -0400, you wrote: >Would Katworld have a UC [United Cities], equivilent of the UN? >Interesting.... > Just a little input on what I do in my fanfictions: In the upcoming "X-File #10-1115" it *is* discussed. Megakat City (and Faroe Lake, a nearby place that appeared in "Wild Side of Feral" and in mine [though in "Awakenings" it was called Lake Ortae--that's an error]) is part of a bigger country, similar to the US and may even *be* the US, and it *does* have an FBI and CIA. Where do you think Mulder and Scully come from? There's a scene (this is, BTW, an offical X-Files crossover) where Mulder is talking to Skinner about jurisdiction over the case in Megakat City, and says, "Megakat City, sir? Aren't they independent?" The deal (as explained in the fanfiction) is certain cities, megatropolises to be exact, have been forced to upgrade their 'police' to a more military level, to battle day-to-day supervillians and all that crazy stuff we just don't get here on earth. So they declared themelves independent--though they never once broke away from the country, but they've upgraded their enforcer system to a point where they don't need to call in the marines every time Dr. Viper or Dark Kat shows up (do you think NYC could defend from one of those without the National Guard?). They're technically part of the country, but rarely let the larger gov't interfer with personal matters, such as laws and law enforcment. Mulder is questioning why the FBI is getting called in on a homicide case for Megakat City, and Skinner's reply is they've requested help, being a) they're too busy with all the problems with supervillians to handle the petty crimes occasionally and b) some of the murders take place in Faroe Lake, also independent, which means the jurisdiction is no longer centralized over one enforcer department. Did that make any sense? Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:36:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Swat Kats World > Would Katworld have a UC [United Cities], equivilent of the UN? > Interesting.... Not sure. If there were, Dark Kat would've either blown it up or taken it over some years ago. :-) :-) :-) Daniel Pawtowski dpawtows@vt.edu ------------------------------ From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 22:55:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Swat Kats World > upgraded their enforcer system to a point where they don't need to call in > the marines every time Dr. Viper or Dark Kat shows up (do you think NYC > could defend from one of those without the National Guard?). They're > technically part of the country, but rarely let the larger gov't interfer > with personal matters, such as laws and law enforcment. Hmm. Not real sure that a national goverment would want to let that happen- MKC obviously has a *large* economy, and no sane country would let a revenue base that large just walk out the door. Let's speculate a little.... Say, MKC was something like a nightmare cyberpunk version of New York- run-down, crime-ridden, etc. Under such conditions, the parent country might be glad to get rid of the drain on Federal aid money. Once free of a country with a Bill of Rights and so fourth, the police force goes hyper-military. Rob a bank, they run down your getaway car with a tank. Shoot a cop, they come after you with attack choppers. High speed chases get strafed by jets. Drug dealers get shot with gatling lasers on sight. Result: The Enforcers, a police force better equipped than most armies. Once the criminal element is dealt with, the economy picks back up, the city gets rebuilt, and it can afford to keep all the hardware. Plus, the parent country will start trying to get it's "orphan" back. Hmm. So, maybe some of the "supervillians" we've seen are actually being sponsored by somebody who'd *like* to see MKC run into temporary economic difficulties and have to merge back. Can anybody think of just _why_ Morbius was blowing up MKC refineries? (He can't just like the smell of burning crude) Main hole, of course, is where the heck the funding came from to arm the police up to that level. Any of the FanFic people care to hypothesize about some hyper-rich Kat who, say, had his family slaughtered by scum, and left his entire fortune to the MKC Police Dept just before dying of a gunshot would? A hotshot young Feral ramrods a proposal for a new division of super-police down the throat of a lazy bum mayor who mostly got elected because nobody gave a darn about who was the leader of the worthless abandoned city. Said mayor manages to take credit for turning the city around, and has been in perpetual office ever since, despite his tendency to play golf all day. Okay folks, it's a theory. Go ahead and tear holes in it! Daniel PAwtowski dpawtows@vt.edu ------------------------------ From: matmilam@juno.com (Matthew B Milam) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 00:19:23 EDT Subject: Web Page request Do you guys have any *.wav or *.mid files of the Swat Kats Theme i can use for my web page?? __________________________________________________________ Matthew Milam (matmilam@juno.com) ------------------------------ From: Yvonne Bennett Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 01:47:07 -0400 Subject: Re: Swat Kats World At 10:19 PM 9/12/96 -0400, you wrote: >At 07:18 PM 9/12/96 -0400, you wrote: >>Would Katworld have a UC [United Cities], equivilent of the UN? >>Interesting.... >> > >Just a little input on what I do in my fanfictions: *sorry, too much bandwidth to send again for my sillyness* >Did that make any sense? Hmm... It sounds like MegaKat City would fit *perfectly* in the world of _Snow_Crash_! :) (Set in the future... almost every 5 blocks is a separate city-state.) - -- Yvonne Bennett __/^-^\__ *Miya!* | "Do we stay, or do we go?" -Bester catbunny@nrv.net | (anyone else feel the urge to sing?) ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #14 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n015' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #15 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Saturday, 14 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 015 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 10:21:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Web Page request On Fri, 13 Sep 1996, Matthew B Milam wrote: > Do you guys have any *.wav or *.mid files of the Swat Kats Theme i can > use for my web page?? Hmm. My computer is the home of the SK sound bites. I sent about 1/2 of them to Ryan. Ask him for my sound bites. A.J. Freda | |\ /| |\ /| |\ /| S ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us| | \___/ | | \___/ | | \___/ | W "Tails" on IRC | | | | | | | A - ------------------------ | S K | | S K | | S K | T \ / \ / \ / K \ / \ / \ / A \ / \ / \ / T S - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit SWAT Kats on the Web: Good Resource Site : http://rat.org/kats/ Some pics and AVIs : http://megakat.maxie.com/ One of my favorites! : http://www.macsonic.org/sk/ SK's UltraPlex : http://www.nethosting.com/~jf9183 Ryan's SM and SK site: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927 Matt's SK Page : http://www.mich.com/~mweb/animation.html Michael's Web Page : http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/3224/ Awesome SK Page! : http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS SWAT Kats Kode Version 1.1: CP356/CR356 A+++++ D+ M P++ T+++ W RL- a13 cw++ d+ e-- f+ h* i p* Zm ------------------------------ From: Hard Drive Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 14:13:54 -0600 Subject: Re: Swat Kats World At 10:55 PM 9/12/96 -0400, Daniel Pawtowski wrote: > Say, MKC was something like a nightmare cyberpunk version of New York- >run-down, crime-ridden, etc. Under such conditions, the parent country >might be glad to get rid of the drain on Federal aid money. Once >free of a country with a Bill of Rights and so fourth, the police force >goes hyper-military. Rob a bank, they run down your getaway car with a >tank. Shoot a cop, they come after you with attack choppers. High speed >chases get strafed by jets. Drug dealers get shot with gatling lasers >on sight. Kats in MKC seem to have a lot more civil rights than this would lead us to believe. Maybe the Enforcers are a lot softer than they were decades ago. (No, DUH, if they need the SWAT Kats to do everything for them.) >Once the criminal element is dealt with, the economy picks back up, >the city gets rebuilt, and it can afford to keep all the hardware. > >Plus, the parent country will start trying to get it's "orphan" >back. Hmm. So, maybe some of the "supervillians" we've seen are >actually being sponsored by somebody who'd *like* to see MKC run >into temporary economic difficulties and have to merge back. If this theory is true, Dark Kat and Turmoil might be the only ones that would fit into it. But if MKC is at cold war with another country, it must be pretty subtle. >Okay folks, it's a theory. Go ahead and tear holes in it! Your theories seem to be pretty stable. ^_^ Noah Sproat "Hard Drive" "Nihongo o no mane o suranaide kudasai." -- Watashi ------------------------------ From: mweb Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 21:12:11 -0400 Subject: Re: SK video game? >>Does anyone kno what the SK video game for SNES is like? Is it a flying >>game (like Pilot Wings?) or is it like Mario? > >I haven't played it, but Nintendo Power and Game Players magazines both said >it was crap. I wouldn't call it crap. I've seen worse. But it is your usual side-scrolling platform game in which you can either be Razor (more agile & quicker, but not a strong) or T-Bone (stronger, but not as quick). When you finish stages of the game, you fight the "boss" monster (in Mode 7 - graphics similar to the 3D & quick movement of Doom). The Mode 7 stuff is really cool! You sorta "fly" the turbokat & shoot at the "boss" monster until it's destroyed. If you're a big Kats fan, it's a must have! ____________________________________________________ mweb@mich.com aka "Purrcy" http://www.mich.com/~mweb fur code 1.2: FFf3adm A+>++ C- D H+ M+ P R- T++ W-- Z- Sm RLMC/CT a cna+++ d+ e+>++ f+ h- iw++ p sm# ------------------------------ From: Jesus Fernandez Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 21:26:37 -0500 Subject: About Edo (and the Ultraplex) All of you that have links to the Ultraplex at: http://www.nethosting.com/~jf9183/ Please change those to: http://penicillin.cyber-naut.com/~jf9183/ Though both links will work.. penicillin is anti-bacterial! (it's also a bit faster) As you may have noticed, The Ultraplex is under remodelmentary changes (I made up a word! Yay!) Take a look! BTW, on the issue of Edo, There are recent posts by him on the newsgroup. He seems really bent on not hosting his site anymore. I have _never_ever_ been bored by his posts, never seen him get offended at all (or have been offended by him!), DEFS NOT A BANDWIDTH WASTER! I still don't understand.. I've read over all the posts that Edo wrote to BOTH mailing lists (ever since AJ's news about making his own SK eps..) and it is clear he has changed. (If Edo's still here..) Webmastering isn't something you can sit in a computer and say I can or I can't, like most things in life a good Webmaster has to earn the experience as she/he learns more, it is twofold when trying to do a one-man-show (Sites maintained by one person.) Edo is like any one of us kats in our little tightbanded community. He is as valuable as you, me, the newbies, the vets, the bright, the creative, or any other kat (or person, in fact.). To me he belongs here as much as everyone else. Also, I was raised to accept that all decent people are worth twice their wieght in gold. - -JF ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 20:12:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [none] A few odds and ends to finish off the week... Packrat (aka T-Bone): > I don't want to get into another arguement about who is better (tho > personally I think it's me!). Jake and I each have our different > strengths that compliment each other, and we work together (even tho I > could kick his tail easily!). Jake does not lead the team. I doubt if I can say who is the *better* of the two, but as far as the series goes, Jake/Razor is substantially more dynamic in terms of character development. He's had a whole episode to himself ("Razor's Edge"), while the most that T-Bone's had has been the equivalent of half an episode ("Cry Turmoil"). And T-Bone fans should consider themselves lucky that he even had *that* since T-Bone wasn't even the intended target kat in the original script for "Cry Turmoil" (it was Commander Feral). Hard Drive: > My point is that Katworld may not be that different from Earth. =^^= Probably not; however, I don't think Megakat City is based on a *single* city either, such as Los Angeles, San Francisco or New York. Doc Konway: > Kats don't like water. Umm, are you sure about that? I'd say the existence of Megakat State Beach and the surfer kats would indicate just the opposite (tho perhaps those are more like tigers and fishing cats than normal house cats). I doubt Anakata Island would be populated either if kats were really that hydrophobic. JF: > BTW, on the issue of Edo, ... Edo never rejoined the list, to the best of my knowledge. Why? That's one question I can't answer. In other news, I caught an episode of Gargoyles last Saturday and noticed that at least part of the animation was done by Hanho Heung-Up (possibly inbetweener-type work). If the Kats had been fully animated by Mook, with some of the extra work sent out to HHU, who knows what the series might have been like? ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #15 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n016' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #16 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Monday, 16 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 016 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pastmaster Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 13:21:04 -0700 Subject: Re: Web Page request >Do you guys have any *.wav AJ's made a ton of wave files that I could give you. I've also made a few of my own. They all have some editing done to them, which makes them sound weird, but still cool. >or *.mid files If anyone has a SK Midi file out there, please send it my way! 8^) PLEASE!!! ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist, Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm Nihongo [Japanese language] o [object marker] no mane o suranaide [mimic; imperative polite negative tense] kudasai [please]. ------------------------------ From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 18:20:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Swat Kats World > Kats in MKC seem to have a lot more civil rights than this would lead us to > believe. Maybe the Enforcers are a lot softer than they were decades ago. That was about what I was thinking, too- things became more civil once the city got it together. I suppose that is one possible explanation for Feral's attitude problems, he's too used to the days when the entire city *did* tremble at his voice. > If this theory is true, Dark Kat and Turmoil might be the only ones that > would fit into it. But if MKC is at cold war with another country, it must > be pretty subtle. Yeah, such things would generally be kinda blatent. For that matter, I can't see Dark Kat working for _anybody_. On the other hand, I could see him as manipulating some other country into making them *think* he's working for then, when his real plan is to play both sides against each other and emerge as conquerer of both. Hmm. I suppose one could try and use that as an explanation about why Enforcer equipment and vehicles seem so worthless- they're all top-line military hardware, from 30 years ago, they haven't been able to get upgraded gear since MKC became sucessfull. The TurboKat, for instance, is made of junked pieces of much more modern aircraft (plus the standard assumption that Razor managed to build a plane that was superior to the sum of it's parts). Every so often, somebody pulls off a political miracle and manages to obtain better gear (The Blue Manx, the Behemoth), but they have a tendency to be destroyed by supervillians before they can be used. Admittedly, most of that theory falls apart if you consider that the most advanced weapons-development lab on the planet (i.e., PumaDyne), is located in MKC. I got the impression that the Blue Manx was produced elsewhere and was purchased by the Enforcers, but it was definately stated that the Behemoth and the MacroBots were locally designed and built. I wonder if there's some other air force on the planet flying squadrons of the things under a different name? Hmm... so, why aren't any of these superweapons ever put into production? Theory time... If the Blue Manx really did come from outside MKC, it's possible that they were unable to reproduce whatever actions lead to the aquisition of the first one. As for the Behemoth...well, the SWAT Kats effectively destroyed it in about two minutes. That looks awfully bad to the MKC Budget Board- "What? It costs ten times more than a standard tank, but they *still* took it out with one missile? No! You can't have another one!" The MacroBots proved to be effective, even the SWAT Kats found that the only way to stop one was with another one. Maybe Prof. Hackle (however you spell the name) raised enough cain about the mis-use of his inventions that PumaDyne dosen't dare build another one for legal reasons. And no, don't stare at any of these rambling too hard, they've still got logic holes large enough to drop a Megasarous through. :-) Daniel Pawtowski dpawtows@vt.edu ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 03:13:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: list downtime If you haven't already noticed, yes, the list was down from early this morning until earlier today. Sorry for the inconvenience! ------------------------------ From: Zax Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 21:06:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Swat Kats World As it is shown in practically all comics, supervillians are products of the heros who fight them. How id metropolis or Gotham survive before Superman or Batman came along. Note the eps, practically all of the SV in SwatKats were created through the intervention of the SKs themselves. Bigger question: are there other superheros in MKC besides the Swatkats? Even Bigger question: would alt.fan.swatkats accpet parodies? I was thinking of the "TwitKat!" (with Bonehead, Loser, Dep mayor Callus Brat, chief Ferrett, Mayor Stanx, reporter Aye Beggora, and the supervillian: "the Message Poster". (excuse that last part, just thinking out loud) ------------------------------ From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 06:17:01 -0700 Subject: Re: Swat Kats World Zax wrote: > Even Bigger question: would alt.fan.swatkats accpet parodies? You Mean - alt.tv.swatkats - Unless There's Something You Know That I Don't Know - I Personaly Never Heard Of - alt.fan.swatkats - Hey Guys, Is There A Newsgroup I Don't Know About ? I Belong To About 30 Newsgroups So There's Probably Lot's Of Newsgroups I Don't Know About ! Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ My SWAT Kats Parodies - Only If They Make Fun Of, tED tURNER & Company - Yeah, That's It ! (Writes Note To Himself, Yet Anouther Weird Idea For The Atlanta War Sequel.) - --------------------------------------------------- SWAT Kats : The Radical Squadron : Kode Version 1.0 CR/CT8 A++ D+ M++ P++ T W RLAT a t C++dw d++ e* f h i+++wk p* sm Zm http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm - - OR - http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers ------------------------------ From: Hard Drive Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 12:37:08 -0600 Subject: Re: Swat Kats World At 06:20 PM 9/14/96 -0400, Daniel Pawtowski wrote: > And no, don't stare at any of these rambling too hard, they've still >got logic holes large enough to drop a Megasarous through. :-) Rambling isn't a *bad* thing; I'd do it all the time if I weren't worried about someone superficially pressing Ctrl + D once they saw how long it was. But there doesn't seem to be too many people on this list; I'm sure people will have the patience. ^_^ Noah Sproat "Hard Drive" ------------------------------ From: packrat@magicbus.com Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 17:40:26 -0500 Subject: Kats or Cats? Has anyone noticed that the Kats don't really act like our cats? I mean assuming that our cats were an early evolutionary step wouldn't they have at least kept some of the same adaptations or habits? Ex. Our cats can swivel their ears independly to help pick up independent sounds. I've never seen the Kats do that... Aw well. Maybe I just have too much free time..... T-Bone "mine mystic hammer did throb most urgently." - Thor - She-Hulk #2something ------------------------------ From: Hard Drive Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 18:23:13 -0600 Subject: Re: Kats or Cats? At 05:40 PM 9/15/96 -0500, T-Bone wrote: >Has anyone noticed that the Kats don't really act like our cats? I mean >assuming that our cats were an early evolutionary step wouldn't they >have at least kept some of the same adaptations or habits? >Ex. Our cats can swivel their ears independly to help pick up >independent sounds. I've never seen the Kats do that... Aw well. >Maybe I just have too much free time..... That's okay; I do too. Sometimes I wonder why some kats wear shoes and why some don't, and under what circumstances they make these choices. I also wonder if there's some conspiracy to annoy people by subjecting them to seeing Callie's hideous eyebrows. =~~= Noah Sproat "Hard Drive" ------------------------------ From: Zax Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 20:28:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Kats or Cats? Remember the Kats, like most antropomorhics, are humans in cat suites, and will generally act like humans, (stupid puns notwithstanding]; the characters are written for a human audicence. Remerber the literal defination: antro [human], morphic [to change]. "To change into human". [Kind of like a reverse Kafka] ------------------------------ From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 20:42:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Kats or Cats? > Ex. Our cats can swivel their ears independly to help pick up > independent sounds. I've never seen the Kats do that... Aw well. Well, if you look at the times we've seen animated Kat-skeltons or somebody's gone thru an X-ray machine, you'll notice they have _bones_ up in their ears. Terran cats don't. Heck, in a pseudo-story of my own (actually an email RPG), Felena keeps getting puzzled about why humans seem to think of felinoids as some sort of jungle fighters- "We're the civilized ones. It's you *apes* who were swinging from trees and ripping primitive Cave-Kats limb from limb a million years ago." She got puzzled as heck when she once saw a 'Planet of the Apes' movie. (For that matter, she's convinced ID4 is a cheap ripoff. "_Computer virus?_ HA! I *rammed* the alien bridge with my saucer!") *chuckle* Daniel Pawtowski dpawtows@vt.edu ------------------------------ From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 21:09:32 -0700 Subject: SWAT Kats : Movie, Live Action Or Animated ? Well, We've Seen The Live Action Movie, It's Called ID4 ! (Independance Day !) Jeff Goldblumb (sp) Plays Razor =) Will Smith Plays T-Bone =) Next Time You Watch It, Just Imagine Everyone As Kats ! (Loads Of Fun, Everyone Should Try It !) So The Movie Should Be Animated, And It Should Be Taditional Animation, No Computers And Stuff Like That, Unless Absolutly Neccasary ! (Computer Read-Outs And Junk Like That !) Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ Yeah, This Post Is Very Late Into The Discussion Over This Whole Thing =) - --------------------------------------------------- SWAT Kats : The Radical Squadron : Kode Version 1.0 CR/CT8 A++ D+ M++ P++ T W RLAT a t C++dw d++ e* f h i+++wk p* sm Zm http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm - - OR - http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers ------------------------------ From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 01:23:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats : Movie, Live Action Or Animated ? > Well, We've Seen The Live Action Movie, It's Called > ID4 ! (Independance Day !) > Actually, I've been making a head-to-head comparison of ID4 vs. "When Strikes Mutilor" for awhile now. In only 23 minutes and for a small fraction of the budget, the SWAT Kats version of an alien invasion had a better plot, better characterizations, more realistic tactics, and better believeability. And that's counting the fact that "Mutilor" stole the basic concept from "V" (ID4 didn't _have_ ideas, it was just a collection of special effects strung together). ID4 was a nice action flick, but it was just so mind-boggleingly vacuum-headed. See any of a wide number of threads on the various Usenet SF groups over the summer, that movie had some of the biggest holes in plot, logic, and military tactics that I've ever heard of. I'm not going to get into them here, it's off-topic. Daniel Pawtowski dpawtows@vt.edu ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 22:36:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Feline stuff Zax queries as to whether or not alt.tv.swatkats will accept parodies. Since that newsgroup is unmoderated, I don't see any reason why not. Parodies are also welcome on the list, provided they're in reasonably good taste and as much on-topic as possible. On Kats versus cats: Kats seem to be evolved cats, where the two share some traits but are different in others. Consider the similarities: - - Kats and cats have similar facial structures, tails and retractable claws (tho those on Kat feet don't appear retractable). - - Both Kats and cats tend to get the occasional furball and both apparently use litterboxes (we've never really seen any toilets in Megakat City, and Megakat Litter seems to be a rather bustling business). - - Kats and cats have very similar preferences in terms of food and drink (fish, milk). I imagine the 'got milk?' commercials must be *really* popular on Megakat TV. Among the differences (in addition to those already mentioned): - - Kats stand plantigrade, like humans (on the soles of their feet). Cats stand digitigrade (on the pads, but not soles, of their feet). - - Cats are prone to frequent grooming, but we don't really see this with Kats (or maybe it does happen in MKC, only we don't see it). On Kat ears: Kat ears seem to be made of bone. If they were made of cartilage, as cats' ears are, they'd decompose with the body (and skeletons show feline ears on the top of the skulls -- tho *this* can likely be easily explained by noting that if the skulls didn't have the ears on top of them, they'd look more human than katlike). - -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================== "Where'd you learn to drive, the *demoliton derby?!*" -- Molly Mange ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #16 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n017' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #17 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Tuesday, 17 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 017 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: matmilam@juno.com (Matthew B Milam) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 00:43:45 EDT Subject: Address What address can i write to bring the Swat Kats back?? This is for my web page at: http://members.aol.com/matmilam __________________________________________________________ Matthew Milam (matmilam@juno.com) ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:45:26 +0800 Subject: Re: SWAT Kats : Movie, Live Action Or Animated ? Daniel Pawtowski wrote: > ID4 was a nice action flick, but it was just so mind-boggleingly > vacuum-headed. See any of a wide number of threads on the various Usenet > SF groups over the summer, that movie had some of the biggest holes > in plot, logic, and military tactics that I've ever heard of. > I'm not going to get into them here, it's off-topic. Try imagining the entire Megakat City being leveled in a few minutes! No more super-villains! (That is if they survived...) No more SWAT Kats! (*Boo! Hiss!* Lynch him!) Sorry... :-) IMHO I think the most likely candidates to survive are: - - T-Bone - - Razor - - Callie - - Cmdr Feral - - Felina - - Dr Sianian - - Mayor Manx (Unfortunately, due to the intervention of Callie) - - Ann Gora - - Some villains, I don't know who but it'll be nice to see the SWAT Kats and the super villains team up to fight a common enemy. Later! ************JULIAN HO************ "You're the ever-mighty Animator! You'll work through the night and your *EYES* WILL BULGE OUT OF YOUR HEAD! Have fun." -Artie, "Dog City" Or, something like that. I can't remember. Coming soon, my own web page! ------------------------------ From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 20:11:55 +0700 (WIB) Subject: Re: Swat Kats World >As it is shown in practically all comics, supervillians are products of >the heros who fight them. How id metropolis or Gotham survive before >Superman or Batman came along. Or it could be that somewhere in the past, the SWAT Kats ancestor (or look alike, or on what Ryan would say, TWINS!) once fight a group of villains just like the ones in the present, and now at the present, the villains are back, and so are the SWAT Kats. >Note the eps, practically all of the SV in SwatKats were created through >the intervention of the SKs themselves. Almost, Dark Kat caused the SWAT Kats to exist. Of course, when they are planning to make the series, they make some villains so that the SWAT Kats won't be left alone just only to fight termites. I think that The Ghost Pilot and Madkat were supposed to be a recurring villains. >Bigger question: are there other superheros in MKC besides the Swatkats? No, unless that episode want to have another one. Or maybe there is one in someone's fanfic story. >Even Bigger question: would alt.fan.swatkats accpet parodies? alt.fan.swatkats who? >I was thinking of the "TwitKat!" (with Bonehead, Loser, Dep mayor Callus >Brat, chief Ferrett, Mayor Stanx, reporter Aye Beggora, and the >supervillian: "the Message Poster". How about Barnes and Felicia Farrel? BTW, "The Postmaster Always Post Twice"? >(excuse that last part, just thinking out loud) Good, since that if you do really mean it, I brat you from here to Megakat City. ------------------------------ From: Hard Drive Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 08:48:17 -0600 Subject: Re: Feline stuff At 10:36 PM 9/15/96 -0700, Dana Uehara wrote: >- Both Kats and cats tend to get the occasional furball and both > apparently use litterboxes (we've never really seen any toilets in > Megakat City, and Megakat Litter seems to be a rather bustling > business). Maybe civilized kats don't really lick themselves to get clean; perhaps they don't put themselves in the situation of hair-shedding. Maybe they use a process that combines showering with the use of body combs and brushes, removing all loose hairs before they fall out on the sidewalk. Fur-licking could be considered a somewhat of a bad habit, like biting nails instead of manicuring them. >- Kats and cats have very similar preferences in terms of food and > drink (fish, milk). I imagine the 'got milk?' commercials must > be *really* popular on Megakat TV. If milk and fish are so popular, I doubt they'd always be consumed in their most plain form. Milk could be divided into all sorts of different products. Drinks could include normal milk (which is as normal as water), meat-flavored milk juices, milk sodas... If they have cheese on Katworld, there could be millions of different varieties of that. I could go on... >Among the differences (in addition to those already mentioned): > >- Kats stand plantigrade, like humans (on the soles of their feet). > Cats stand digitigrade (on the pads, but not soles, of their feet). Kats COULD be designed to walk digitigrade, but probably choose not to. (I as a REAL person in the REAL world never walk on the soles of my feet when I'm not wearing shoes; I've always had really strong arches.) >- Cats are prone to frequent grooming, but we don't really see this with > Kats (or maybe it does happen in MKC, only we don't see it). See my first comment. Noah Sproat "Hard Drive" I'm the ultimate human cat. =^^= Don't ask. ------------------------------ From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 13:58:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Feline stuff > > - Cats are prone to frequent grooming, but we don't really see this with > Kats (or maybe it does happen in MKC, only we don't see it). Well, they likely do- that is the primary source of hairballs, and there are a couple references to "Hairball eliminator", and Razor does spit one up at one point. Unless somebody can come up with another means of developing a hairball. I'd rather not, it's too gross to think about very hard. :-) Daniel Pawtowski dpawtows@vt.edu ------------------------------ From: Hard Drive Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 15:12:41 -0600 Subject: Re: Feline stuff At 01:58 PM 9/16/96 -0400, Daniel Pawtowski wrote: >> >> - Cats are prone to frequent grooming, but we don't really see this with >> Kats (or maybe it does happen in MKC, only we don't see it). > > Well, they likely do- that is the primary source of hairballs, and >there are a couple references to "Hairball eliminator", and Razor does >spit one up at one point. Unless somebody can come up with another >means of developing a hairball. I'd rather not, it's too gross to >think about very hard. :-) You don't own cats, do you? =^^= Noah Sproat "Hard Drive" ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:54:14 -0400 Subject: Kats, Cats, felines... packrat@magicbus.com wrote: > Has anyone noticed that the Kats don't really act like our cats? > Ex. Our cats can swivel their ears independly to help pick up > independent sounds. I've never seen the Kats do that... I find this just a tad disappointing; myself, I would like to see the kats act like something more than humans with fur. Now, I'm not sure if it was my imagination or not, but didn't we hear Razor purr at one point? Wishful thinking? Then hard drive wrote: >That's okay; I do too. Sometimes I wonder why some kats wear shoes and why >some don't, and under what circumstances they make these choices. We had this thread a while ago. I think that if I had claws on my toes, I would prefer to keep my feet bare, so that I could use them for climbing and fighting, and so I wouldn't shred my expensive shoes. But then, others might want to wear shoes for a fashion statement, or for protec- tion. After all, Bruce Lee didn't wear shoes, but everyone else in Hong Kong did. Then Zax wrote: >Remerber the literal defination: antro [human], morphic [to change]. >"To change into human". *SLAP*! Shame on you! Anthro = human, yes. "Morphic", from "Morphos", meaning "shape". Anthropomorphic: human shape. "Morph" has only recently been used as a slang term for "transformation". Then Dana wrote: >On Kat ears: Kat ears seem to be made of bone. If they were made of >cartilage, as cats' ears are, they'd decompose with the body (and >skeletons show feline ears on the top of the skulls -- tho *this* can >likely be easily explained by noting that if the skulls didn't have >the ears on top of them, they'd look more human than katlike). Bingo. It is most easily explained by an animation company that feels the audience would not recognize the skeletons as those of kats if they did not have ears on them. Daniel made a very convincing argument in favor of kats grooming themselves with their tongues -- that is the chief source of hairballs. I like the notion that this is done commonly, just not in public. There are all SORTS of things that we as humans do, but not in public. Ever watched a cat do something that you WISHED you could do, but would likely never do in public? Oh, dear. I think it must be late. Good night, everybody! - ----- Dr. Samuel Konway Senior What Made Me Say That Chemist Avid Therapeutics Philadelphia, PA flogistn@vivanet.com PS: Administrata: is it purposeful that the "follow-up-to" address is the sender, not the list? ------------------------------ From: jaguar@warwick.net (Michael J. Rider) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:18:29 -0400 Subject: Re: Kats, Cats, felines... In a message dated 8:48 AM 9/16/96, Hard Drive wrote: >Maybe civilized kats don't really lick themselves to get clean; perhaps they >don't put themselves in the situation of hair-shedding. Maybe they use a >process that combines showering with the use of body combs and brushes, >removing all loose hairs before they fall out on the sidewalk. Fur-licking >could be considered a somewhat of a bad habit, like biting nails instead of >manicuring them. In a message dated 5:54 PM 9/16/96, Dr. Samuel Conway wrote: >Daniel made a very convincing argument in favor of kats grooming >themselves with their tongues -- that is the chief source of hairballs. >I like the notion that this is done commonly, just not in public. There >are all SORTS of things that we as humans do, but not in public. The only other source of hairballs in cats I can think of is 'wool sucking.' One assumes _that_ would be thought of as a bad habit in a similar way to fingernail chewing in kat society. There are hairballs, therefore there is fur licking. Mutual grooming might be interesting too. Of course that would look really peculiar to a general audience if it were used in an episode. Might give it an R rating too. ;) Has anyone brought up scratching posts or how appropriate using claws in public is? They're bound to come in handy opening packages. - -- ____________________________________________________________ / Michael J. Rider jaguar@warwick.net Ixbalam on DalNet / / http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/3224/index.html / ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: packrat@magicbus.com Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:04:26 -0500 Subject: MegaKat's Government? I'm gonna add my two cents to this whole government issue... (And since I'm taking gov't as a class it's about time!): It seems to me that Megakat City could be part of a confederation - a loose collection of fairly independent states or cities that have a weak central gov't (the South was a confederation during the Civil War). That way they could be pretty much independent but still have the advantage of alliances with other cities/states. Besides Pumadyne could make some nice money supplying the central gov't! Well that's my Government homework for the night. Adios. T-Bone "Then we build a special building just for dropping pianos..." - Hovick ------------------------------ From: Hard Drive Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:23:29 -0600 Subject: Re: Kats, Cats, felines... At 06:18 PM 9/16/96 -0400, Michael J. Rider wrote: > Has anyone brought up scratching posts or how appropriate using >claws in public is? They're bound to come in handy opening packages. They're also handy for stabbing someone, but I think social rules would make that action uncommon (except during bar brawls and such). I doubt kats would keep a scratching post around like a piece of furniture, but they would have tools to sharpen their claws. Also, scratching is a cat's way of marking territory. I think kats are far too civilized to do that. As for mutual grooming, I think kats are too civilized and have on the most part outgrown that practice. =^^= Noah Sproat "Hard Drive" ------------------------------ From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 18:05:45 -0700 Subject: The Sequel On Atlanta ! (Heh Heh Heh) SEQUEL - Well, Got Lots Of New Ideas For It, Gonna Work On It Fur Awhile, If I Don't Post To The List Fur A Few Hours, You'll Know Why. BTW - Also HTMLing The FCNL Issues 1 And 2, They'll Be Up Soon ! (Thanks Fur Getting Me Off My Duff To Do It !) ETC - As To The Kats Behavour (sp) So, They Don't Act Like Earth Cats ? That's Because It's Not Earth ! It Could Be A Paralal (sp) Earth, That Would Be Interesting ! (Someone Out There Want To Do A Sliders / SWAT Kats Crossover Fanfic ? Get Your Creativity Flowing !) Goverment On Kat World (Generic Name) I Say We Just Don't Know Cause The Show Don't Have An Episode That Tells Us This, If We Get The Show Back, (Through Syndication, Because That's What Warner's Would Do With All That H-B Stuff, Is Put It All Together For A Syndication Package, Because WB Is Not About To Put Their New Shows Into Syndi !) We Just May Find Out The Real Answer To This ! Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ At Least It's Not T.(urner) - --------------------------------------------------- SWAT Kats : The Radical Squadron : Kode Version 1.0 CR/CT8 A++ D+ M++ P++ T W RLAT a t C++dw d++ e* f h i+++wk p* sm Zm http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm - - OR - http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers ------------------------------ From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 20:39:37 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Kats, Cats, felines... > sucking.' One assumes _that_ would be thought of as a bad habit in a > similar way to fingernail chewing in kat society. There are hairballs, Hmm. I guess that would be "fingerclaw", as Kats likely don't have fingernails. They're just a poor remnant of the claws that we humans lost a long time ago. Admittedly, I do recall comments about "having my nails done" on the show. Chalk up stuff like that to a writer not paying enough attention to anatomy. It's a kids show, such minor slips are acceptable. I suppose one could speculate that a Kat flashing claws is somewhat similar to a human baring teeth or pulling a knife. Not done in "polite" society, but commonly used as a built-in utility tool (one generally dosen't whip out a Swiss Army Knife and start opening packages at a formal dinner party, either). Hmm. I wonder if things like nail polish work on retractable claws? Anybody know what a conventional cat thinks if it's done to them? > Has anyone brought up scratching posts or how appropriate using I do recall T-Bone remarking about somebody looking "like an old scratching post" when describing someone who had gotten pounded. Can't recall the exact wording or an episode, though. It's easy enough to imagien that Kats have developed claw-trimming devices for hygene the same way humans have nail clippers and emery boards. So... how _would_ a Kat react to an electric razor? *ouch* Daniel Pawtowski dpawtows@vt.edu ------------------------------ From: jaguar@warwick.net (Michael J. Rider) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 20:47:15 -0400 Subject: Re: Kats, Cats, felines... In a message dated 5:23 PM 9/16/96, Hard Drive wrote: [about kat klaws] >but they would have tools to sharpen their claws. Also, scratching is a >cat's way of marking territory. I think kats are far too civilized to do >that. As for mutual grooming, I think kats are too civilized and have on >the most part outgrown that practice. =^^= I was really thinking of the utilitarian uses of claws. Just like having a built-in box cutter. That would make criminals more difficult to deal with too. Would (Eep!) de-clawing be used as a punishment for chronic criminals? Maybe. There are more ways a cat marks territory than just scratching trees (couches, desks, curtains). Of course they would be impractical in any advanced civilization. Are fences and national borders any less a way of marking territory? There are obviously both in the Kats world. Kats wouldn't use stratch and scent marks any more than humans do. They'd use fences, treaties and deeds. Outgrown?! I don't believe any species would 'outgrow' being affectionate. You're thinking of Vulcan Kats maybe? - -- ____________________________________________________________ / Michael J. Rider jaguar@warwick.net Ixbalam on DalNet / / http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/3224/index.html / ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 17:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Kats, Cats, felines... (fwd) Daniel Pawtowski writes: > So... how _would_ a Kat react to an electric razor? *ouch* Heh. This is one I can't pass up a comment on. How would Razor react to his namesake? I remember a friend doing a sketch for me where he's got Razor holding up an electric shaver, revving it and saying, "Shave *this*, Norelco!" But seriously, you never know... remember that in "The Dark Side Of The SWAT Kats" Razor actually taunts Commander Feral about "forgetting to shave this morning". I imagine Kats would react more to epiladies than razors. - -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================== "Where'd you learn to drive, the *demolition derby?!*" -- Molly Mange ------------------------------ From: Hard Drive Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 19:16:14 -0600 Subject: Re: Kats, Cats, felines... At 08:47 PM 9/16/96 -0400, Michael J. Rider wrote: >Would (Eep!) de-clawing be used as a punishment for chronic >criminals? Maybe. Unlikely. Declawing also involves amputating the extreme segment of each digit. I don't know about other mammals, but if you ripped out a human's fingernail, it would still grow back. > There are more ways a cat marks territory than just scratching >trees (couches, desks, curtains). Of course they would be impractical in >any advanced civilization. Are fences and national borders any less a way >of marking territory? There are obviously both in the Kats world. Kats >wouldn't use stratch and scent marks any more than humans do. They'd use >fences, treaties and deeds. DUH. > Outgrown?! I don't believe any species would 'outgrow' being >affectionate. You're thinking of Vulcan Kats maybe? I wasn't referring to affection, but to grooming practices (cats automatically start licking each other when another cat is next to them; it's not always affection). Kats just find alternative ways of showing normal affection (hugs, kisses, etc.) Last time I check I don' think I saw any evidence that Jake licks Chance's back or vice versa. Then again, the cartoon *is* aimed at minors... Noah Sproat "Hard Drive" ------------------------------ From: Zax Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:14:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Kats, Cats, felines... On Mon, 16 Sep 1996, Michael J. Rider wrote: > There are more ways a cat marks territory than just scratching > trees (couches, desks, curtains). Of course they would be impractical in > any advanced civilization. I keep imagining two Katworld diplomats, signing a treaty to establish a border, then .... ------------------------------ From: Jesus Fernandez Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:30:29 -0500 Subject: Re: Kats, Cats, felines... Daniel Pawtowski wrote: > > > sucking.' One assumes _that_ would be thought of as a bad habit in a > > similar way to fingernail chewing in kat society. There are hairballs, > > Hmm. I guess that would be "fingerclaw", as Kats likely don't have > fingernails. They're just a poor remnant of the claws that we humans > lost a long time ago. Admittedly, I do recall comments about "having my > nails done" on the show. Chalk up stuff like that to a writer not > paying enough attention to anatomy. It's a kids show, such minor slips > are acceptable. Turmoil's claws are done.. in a shade of red, remember when she says "I'll know you'll see it my way.."? Also, Turmoil's claws have more of a resemblence to human nails than the other characters I've seen. > I suppose one could speculate that a Kat flashing claws is somewhat > similar to a human baring teeth or pulling a knife. Not done in "polite" > society, but commonly used as a built-in utility tool (one generally > dosen't whip out a Swiss Army Knife and start opening packages at a > formal dinner party, either). Of course... but it is seen that Razor opens a can of milk with his claws.. BTW, do kittens have retactable claws? > Hmm. I wonder if things like nail polish work on retractable claws? > Anybody know what a conventional cat thinks if it's done to them? See my comment on Turmoil above... > > Has anyone brought up scratching posts or how appropriate using > > I do recall T-Bone remarking about somebody looking "like an old > scratching post" when describing someone who had gotten pounded. > Can't recall the exact wording or an episode, though. It's easy enough > to imagien that Kats have developed claw-trimming devices for hygene the > same way humans have nail clippers and emery boards. True.. then they would have to have TV commercials like "it's the Claw Trimmer 2000x able to blah and blah blah!" or maybe in a Kat version of the Sharper (noooo! a bad pun!) Image catalog. > So... how _would_ a Kat react to an electric razor? *ouch* Hmm, I wonder what is a Kat's morning schedule? What would kats consider breakfast food? - -JF PS: who is hosting the SK newsletter? I heard that Chris is, can someone please fill me in again? ------------------------------ From: mweb Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 22:22:20 -0400 Subject: Re: Kats, Cats, felines... [Doc Konway] wrote: >Daniel made a very convincing argument in favor of kats grooming >themselves with their tongues -- that is the chief source of hairballs. >I like the notion that this is done commonly, just not in public. There >are all SORTS of things that we as humans do, but not in public. Has everyone forgot that Mayor Manx turned on the shower in "Mutation City"? He was standing in the bathroom, wearing a robe & slime shot out of the showerhead when he turned it on. [Hard Drive] wrote: >Unlikely. Declawing also involves amputating the extreme segment of each >digit. I don't know about other mammals, but if you ripped out a human's >fingernail, it would still grow back. Yes, but if you remove a human's finger at the first knuckle, a fingernail _won't_ grow back! Dana wrote: >- Kats and cats have very similar preferences in terms of food and > drink (fish, milk). I imagine the 'got milk?' commercials must > be *really* popular on Megakat TV. Don't forget the pizza, nachos and chilli peppers! ;) Hmm.. Taco Bell must be a pretty popular eatery! ____________________________________________________ mweb@mich.com aka "Purrcy" http://www.mich.com/~mweb ------------------------------ From: Hard Drive Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 21:42:16 -0600 Subject: Re: Kats, Cats, felines... At 10:22 PM 9/16/96 -0400, mweb wrote: >[Hard Drive] wrote: >>Unlikely. Declawing also involves amputating the extreme segment of each >>digit. I don't know about other mammals, but if you ripped out a human's >>fingernail, it would still grow back. > >Yes, but if you remove a human's finger at the first knuckle, a fingernail >_won't_ grow back! My point was that kats would still have to use their hands (to do any work), and the fingertips have all the important nerve endings; plus they'd need their fingers to be long enough to grasp something. Noah Sproat "Hard Drive" ------------------------------ From: Yvonne Bennett Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 01:12:59 -0400 Subject: Re: Feline stuff At 03:12 PM 9/16/96 -0600, Hard Drive wrote: >At 01:58 PM 9/16/96 -0400, Daniel Pawtowski wrote: >> Well, they likely do- that is the primary source of hairballs, and >>there are a couple references to "Hairball eliminator", and Razor does >>spit one up at one point. Unless somebody can come up with another >>means of developing a hairball. > >You don't own cats, do you? =^^= I *used* to... I can't think of any other way for a cat to get a hairball. Hmm... Maybe problems with eating furry animals during the shedding time of year? *scratch head* - -- Yvonne Bennett __/^-^\__ *Miya!* | "Do we stay, or do we go?" -Bester catbunny@nrv.net | (anyone else feel the urge to sing?) ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 22:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: administrata... A few of you, especially those who may have just joined the list, may have been wondering what happened to the "Reply-To:" headers that were previously on postings to the list (they still remain on the headers for the digest). I've purposely removed them as it seems as though, especially with the previous list at lists.mv.net, postings that should have been private email were sent to the list. Since the list was not moderated, the result was a lot more noise than what I thought the list should contain. Now we've got a moderated list. At times it's hard for me to be sure that what appears to be off-topic material isn't simply just missent email, so it's easier just to remove the "Reply-To" headers. >From my experience, it's a lot easier to reroute email to the list than vice versa. You can either "reply to all," which will include the list, or (what I frequently use) "forward" mail over to the list. How you do this will depend on which mail program utility you use. This, btw, does not just apply to this list. I know this is followed on the Disney TV Animation mailing list, another list that I'm on, and as far as I can tell nobody's been complaining there. Questions about this to me in email; do NOT post to the list. Back to your regularly scheduled listmail. - -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================== "Where'd you learn to drive, the *demoliton derby?!*" -- Molly Mange ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #17 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n018' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #18 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Tuesday, 17 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 018 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Kemner Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 07:58:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Hairball Doc forgot to mention that the medical term for a hairball is BEZOAR! Wouldn't that make a great name for a cat, or a fanfic Kat? Formerly, bezoars were highly valued (especially big ones from goats, etc) because of their magical properties. There are even some in the crown jewels of Britain. Now how about that for odd? When a cat sharpens claws, she pulls them off in sheaths. So you get little hollow claw-castings. =^^= ------------------------------ From: Simon Leet Wai Leong Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 20:46:55 +0800 Subject: Re: Feline stuff At 08:48 AM 9/16/96 -0600, you wrote: >If milk and fish are so popular, I doubt they'd always be consumed in their >most plain form. Milk could be divided into all sorts of different >products. Drinks could include normal milk (which is as normal as water), >meat-flavored milk juices, milk sodas... If they have cheese on Katworld, >there could be millions of different varieties of that. I could go on... I concur with the general idea (although meat-flavoured milk juices sounds rather extreme ...) I kind of thought of milk as an analogous to grape juice: It's great in it's most basic state, but there's a whole bunch of things you can do with it, like make wine out of it. No doubt the "milk" that Mayor Manx and the SwatKats drink were meant to be parallels to wine and beer respectively and likely have some alcoholic content. We already make a great deal of milk byproducts including buttermilk and cheese for example, and it's certainly possible that Kats use somekind of organisms capable of converting lactose to alcohol through fermentation (heck, if they have giant bacteria terrorizing them, this should be child's play!) That would certainly give "Irish Cream" a new meaning! ;) >>- Cats are prone to frequent grooming, but we don't really see this with >> Kats (or maybe it does happen in MKC, only we don't see it). I'm under the impression that Kats behave more like humans with respects to grooming, although licking seems to be perfectly acceptable. Chance licks his paw and runs it through his "hair" to look presentable when Callie went to drop off her car for repairs in The Giant Bacteria for example, and likely the furballs arise from that. They probably lick their wounds too although I really can't picture Jake and Chance giving each other tongue baths! - -Simon Leet :) "Figures. All my life, I've fought against imperialism. Now, suddenly, I AM the expanding Russian frontier." "But with very nice borders." Ivanova and Dr. Franklin, Babylon 5 ------------------------------ From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 19:56:23 +0700 (WIB) Subject: Re: Swat Kats World >> Kats in MKC seem to have a lot more civil rights than this would lead us to >> believe. Maybe the Enforcers are a lot softer than they were decades ago. Maybe decades ago, they were just regular police, airforce, navy, and army. BTW, in "The Wrath of Dark Kat", Dark Kat says that he gonna destroy the new Enforcer building, if that is the new one, where is the old one? >That was about what I was thinking, too- things became more civil once >the city got it together. I suppose that is one possible explanation >for Feral's attitude problems, he's too used to the days when the >entire city *did* tremble at his voice. I guess that the reason Feral hate the SWAT Kats is because that they are doing HIS jobs. >> If this theory is true, Dark Kat and Turmoil might be the only ones that >> would fit into it. But if MKC is at cold war with another country, it must >> be pretty subtle. > >Yeah, such things would generally be kinda blatent. For that matter, I >can't see Dark Kat working for _anybody_. But Dark Kat could be working WITH somebody, somebody who has the same purpose just like him. > Hmm. I suppose one could try and use that as an explanation about why >Enforcer equipment and vehicles seem so worthless- they're all top-line >military hardware, from 30 years ago, Well, the cars in Megakat City look like classic type cars to me. Does this mean that the kats never changes their cars? >they haven't been able to get >upgraded gear since MKC became sucessfull. Since mayor Manx was in charge? >The TurboKat, for instance, >is made of junked pieces of much more modern aircraft (plus the standard >assumption that Razor managed to build a plane that was superior to the >sum of it's parts). Razor may be able to tweaked the fuselage that he found into the TurboKat, but he is no miracle worker. So I guess that the TurboKat is all of the technologies that have been dumped to the junkyard with a buch of duct tapes here and there. Of course with the proper maintance, it probably will out run almost anything on the planet. >Every so often, somebody pulls off a political >miracle and manages to obtain better gear (The Blue Manx, the Behemoth), >but they have a tendency to be destroyed by supervillians before they >can be used. The episodes required them to be build..... and destroyed, by those two vigilantes! > Admittedly, most of that theory falls apart if you consider that the >most advanced weapons-development lab on the planet (i.e., PumaDyne), >is located in MKC. Well, PumaDyne may not be the most advanced weapons-development lab on the planet, but hey, at least that they got the capability to make an energy shield and a machine that can be controlled by the mind. >I got the impression that the Blue Manx was produced >elsewhere and was purchased by the Enforcers, How does someone build a jet anyway? How does someone (re)build a TurboKat? >but it was definately >stated that the Behemoth and the MacroBots were locally designed and >built. With the questions in mind, who design them? The Macrobots was designed by Hackle, but who design Turmoil's jet? who design the Blue Manx? who design the Enforcer jets? >I wonder if there's some other air force on the planet flying >squadrons of the things under a different name? Well, I don't think there is any airforces besides the Enforcers, near MegaKat City anyway, but there could be one that its location is probanly far from MegaKat City (if there is a city besides MegaKat City). Since that if there is one, and they are near MegaKat City, they SHOULD come in "When Strikes Mutilor". > Hmm... so, why aren't any of these superweapons ever put into production? There are superweapons in production, but I guess that it supposed to show up in another episodes. The mega laser beam (or is it mega beam laser? or is it just mega beam?) satellite that PumaDyne develop was used by Greenbox in "Unlikely Alloys", Note: Is it just me or the PumaDyne's scientist really says earthquake? and the sequel to "Cry Turmoil" (Turmoil II: The Revenge), Turmoil got a hold of a laser satellite and planning to bake the city, but who knows, maybe near at the end of the episode, the guys and Turmoil were playing "catch the remote" (maybe Turmoil needs some security on being able to control the thing at her paws, so she created the remote), somehow the remote drop down and started to malfunction, then it send a command to lock the laser cannon on Turmoil's head. >Theory time... If the Blue Manx really did come from outside MKC, it's >possible that they were unable to reproduce whatever actions lead to the >aquisition of the first one. Maybe because Manx doesn't want another aircraft named the Blue Manx cause trouble to the city again, it could be a bad thing for the election. >As for the Behemoth...well, the SWAT Kats >effectively destroyed it in about two minutes. That looks awfully bad >to the MKC Budget Board- "What? It costs ten times more than a standard >tank, but they *still* took it out with one missile? No! You can't have >another one!" Well, probably the reason that it was never build again, maybe because it failed Feral's primary requirement, it can't handle the SWAT Kats. Or the writers decided that one Behemoth is enough. >The MacroBots proved to be effective, even the SWAT Kats >found that the only way to stop one was with another one. Although interestingly, it has an automatic attack mode, does Razor programmed the mode or is it a part of the Macrobots programs? >Maybe Prof. Hackle (however you spell the name) We definetly going to need that SK encylopedia. AJ! How are you doing on the encylopedia? >raised enough cain >about the mis-use of his inventions that PumaDyne dosen't dare build >another one for legal reasons. Maybe because that the Macrobots could be a failed invention, the bots were design for space exploration, but PumaDyne tweaked them so that it will be a mobile suit tank. During that modification, some of its original qualities must have been lost. Maybe in the original design, it could land of its four feet (to land on the surface of other planets) and that fall on in "Metal Urgency" could be easily avoided. ------------------------------ From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 23:18:00 +0700 (WIB) Subject: A reply to kats-digest V1 #16 > >Has anyone noticed that the Kats don't really act like our cats? If you mean by not sleeping at our laps and purring? >I mean >assuming that our cats were an early evolutionary step wouldn't they >have at least kept some of the same adaptations or habits? >Ex. Our cats can swivel their ears independly to help pick up >independent sounds. I've never seen the Kats do that... Although that it would be kinda cool to see it happens, maybe in the situation just like one of the scenes from "T-Bone Stakes". Hard Drive replying to T-Bone's message that was sent at Sun, 15 Sep 1996 17:40:26 -0500: >That's okay; I do too. Sometimes I wonder why some kats wear shoes and why >some don't, Almost all of them wear shoes/foot wear, only a couple special few choose not to wear them in certain activities or it is just shoes aren't part of their persopnalities. >and under what circumstances they make these choices. I also >wonder if there's some conspiracy to annoy people by subjecting them to >seeing Callie's hideous eyebrows. =~~= First season or second? >From: Zax >Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 20:28:01 -0400 (EDT) >Subject: Re: Kats or Cats? > >Remember the Kats, like most antropomorhics, are humans in cat suites, and >will generally act like humans, (stupid puns notwithstanding]; Hmmm..... Humans with ears and a tail tacked on? >the characters are written for a human audicence. Ahem... human audiences? Melissa, Paul. Does your cats also watch SWAT Kats with you? Okay, so maybe the characters are written for human audiences, but hey, cats love to watch them too. >Remerber the literal defination: antro [human], morphic [to change]. >"To change into human". Then what does anthropoid means? >From: Daniel Pawtowski >Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 20:42:01 -0400 (EDT) >Subject: Re: Kats or Cats? > >>Ex. Our cats can swivel their ears independly to help pick up >>independent sounds. I've never seen the Kats do that... Aw well. > > Well, if you look at the times we've seen animated Kat-skeltons or >somebody's gone thru an X-ray machine, you'll notice they have _bones_ >up in their ears. Terran cats don't. The dead kats that the Pastmaster revives in "The Pastmaster Always Ring Twice" have bones for ears, the Red Lynx himself has bones for his ears., even the skeletons in "Caverns of Horror" have bones for ears. Maybe the producers of the series think that skeleton kats might look much better with bones as their ears than to have no ears at all. >(For that matter, she's convinced ID4 is a cheap ripoff. ID4 is an alien invaded the Earth type movie. >"_Computer virus?_ HA! I *rammed* the alien bridge >with my saucer!") A quick and fast way to get her into the scenes. >From: Chris Tom Cimafranca >Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 21:09:32 -0700 >Subject: SWAT Kats : Movie, Live Action Or Animated ? > >Well, We've Seen The Live Action Movie, It's Called >ID4 ! (Independance Day !) > >Jeff Goldblumb (sp) Plays Razor =) > >Will Smith Plays T-Bone =) > >Next Time You Watch It, Just Imagine Everyone As Kats ! >(Loads Of Fun, Everyone Should Try It !) > >So The Movie Should Be Animated, Unless that they are planning to put a lot of humans in the movie, if they are planning to put humans, then they should do it ala TMNT, and it should happen on Earth, not on MegaKat City. >And It Should Be >Taditional Animation, No Computers And Stuff Like >That, Unless Absolutly Neccasary ! Well, after thinking it for a long time, I guess it isn't necessary has to be computer animations or traditional animations, the *quality* is the important thing. So I guess that no matter how they make it, just as long that it is good, I guess that it is okay. >(Computer Read-Outs And Junk Like That !) Hey, what better way to simulated a computer read-outs than doing it on the real thing? Of course, Mook done a good job on animating those computer read-outs. >From: Daniel Pawtowski >Date: Mon, 16 Sep 1996 01:23:46 -0400 (EDT) >Subject: Re: SWAT Kats : Movie, Live Action Or Animated ? > >> Well, We've Seen The Live Action Movie, It's Called >> ID4 ! (Independance Day !) > > Actually, I've been making a head-to-head comparison of ID4 vs. "When >Strikes Mutilor" for awhile now. In only 23 minutes and for a small >fraction of the budget, the SWAT Kats version of an alien invasion had >a better plot, better characterizations, more realistic tactics, and >better believeability. But the plot is still the same, alien invaders come to the planet, the natives got restless, the aliens start attacking everything, the natives fight back, the aliens start releasing everything they got, the natives sneak in to the mothership and manage to stop the invasion. >And that's counting the fact that "Mutilor" >stole the basic concept from "V" But are you sure that "V" didn't stole it from somewhere else? >(ID4 didn't _have_ ideas, it was >just a collection of special effects strung together). ID4 has only one basic idea, it is Doomsday for humankind. What the humans will do? "When Strikes Mutilor" has one idea, the air (or water) is gone. How do the kats get it back? > ID4 was a nice action flick, but it was just so mind-boggleingly >vacuum-headed. It was design to entertain the viewers, not to give them some complex plot that will probably take five years to finish it. The same also goes for "When Strikes Mutilor", only that it was given 23 minutes. >See any of a wide number of threads on the various Usenet >SF groups over the summer, that movie had some of the biggest holes >in plot, logic, and military tactics that I've ever heard of. Well, we have been talking about this in SPACED, and the biggest plot hole is probably when they uploaded the virus into the aliens' computer. >I'm not going to get into them here, it's off-topic. Yeah, the list administrator may not like it if we make an off the topic message. >From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) >Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 22:36:38 -0700 (PDT) >Subject: Feline stuff > >Zax queries as to whether or not alt.tv.swatkats will accept parodies. >Since that newsgroup is unmoderated, I don't see any reason why not. Just make friends, not foes. Make your parodies humorous and not offending to anyone. >Parodies are also welcome on the list, provided they're in reasonably >good taste and as much on-topic as possible. Er, does this mean cross-overs aren't allowed? ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 11:37:25 -0600 Subject: Re: A reply to kats-digest V1 #16 At 11:18 PM 9/17/96 +0700, Edo Andromedo wrote: >> I also >>wonder if there's some conspiracy to annoy people by subjecting them to >>seeing Callie's hideous eyebrows. =~~= > >First season or second? I believe first season. I think in the second season her eyebrows looked more normal. (I can't be sure; I haven't seen a show for over a year because I don' get Cartoon Network.) No@h Spro@t "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 14:14:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Kat stuff, various (listmail replies) Simon: No doubt the "milk" that Mayor Manx and the SwatKats drink were meant to be parallels to wine and beer respectively and likely have some alcoholic content. Spiked milk is likely a possibility, tho the milk that Jake and Chance drink could equally have been more like soda, too. It's certainly possible that Kats use somekind of organisms capable of converting lactose to alcohol through fermentation. Except that fermenting milk would likely sour it, and at least one of the two (Jake) isn't particularly fond of the smell of sour milk (cf. "Destructive Nature" when he says that "I'm trying to save this place from the smell of sour milk!"). [Kats] probably lick their wounds too although I really can't picture Jake and Chance giving each other tongue baths! I'd say that's a bit extreme, too... but licking wounds isn't something just limited to Kats. Saliva helps a bit as an emergency painkiller, such as if you cut your finger. Edo: BTW, in "The Wrath of Dark Kat", Dark Kat says that he gonna destroy the new Enforcer building, if that is the new one, where is the old one? I don't think we ever know about the old one because the whole scenario is a flashback to begin with. More than likely the old Enforcer building was either in a different part of the city (smaller office, maybe?) or was where the new one is (the old one was torn down or remodeled, and the Enforcers may have been temporarily displaced during that time). I guess that the reason Feral hate the SWAT Kats is because that they are doing HIS jobs. Not just that, but frequently they manage to succeed where the Enforcers fail. As Molly Mange so aptly put it, "those two fighter jocks make [Feral] look stupid at least once a week!" How does someone (re)build a TurboKat? Given the technology level in Megakat City plus the amount of military salvage available to Jake and Chance, building (and rebuilding) something like the Turbokat probably isn't very difficult -- time- consuming, perhaps, but not difficult. packrat: Er, does this mean cross-overs aren't allowed? They are on here, as long as they involve the Kats. I'm not that rigid about what's on-topic and what isn't... in other words, anything involving the Kats, even if you mix in anything else, is more than on-topic. I'd say that for parodies more, whether or not they're in good taste would matter first, whether or not they're on-topic second. A residual comment about bare feet versus footwear -- T-Bone and Razor not having any footwear when they're in uniform has had its advantages, most notably for Razor when he saved Callie in "Destructive Nature." In climbing the vine up the elevator shaft in Megakat Towers, Razor used both his hands and feet to grab onto the vine. - -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================== "T-Bone, if you drown... I'm gonna kill you!" -- Razor ------------------------------ From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:11:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: A reply to kats-digest V1 #16 > The dead kats that the Pastmaster revives in "The Pastmaster Always Ring > Twice" have bones for ears, the Red Lynx himself has bones for his ears., > even the skeletons in "Caverns of Horror" have bones for ears. Exactly. There is the problem that the artists don't want to show human skulls, since everybody is supposed to be a kat. Unfortunately, at the relatively low resolution of this show, there isn't much difference between a Kat face and a human one if you delete the fur and the ears. So they leave the ears on for skeletons. I can see the reasoning they used. > It was design to entertain the viewers, not to give them some complex plot > that will probably take five years to finish it. The same also goes for I'm most put off by the blatent errors and mis-uses of hardware in ID4. > "When Strikes Mutilor", only that it was given 23 minutes. "Mutilor" _did_ manage to fit in a more believable story in only 23 minutes. If they managed to do it, why couldn't a big-budget film at least _try_? Best suggestion I've heard would have been to make a movie out of "Footfall". Same concept, same thrill-a-minute ride (Delete some of the middle bits), same SFX bonanza, simplistic plot, much more believeable. > Well, we have been talking about this in SPACED, and the biggest plot hole > is probably when they uploaded the virus into the aliens' computer. Heck, that's almost minor. Engaging a 15-mile wide target with _F-18_'s armed with _AMRAAMs_??? Closing to within _visual range_ of said target? Wrong plane, wrong weapon, wrong tactics. The Air Force isn't _that_ stupid. Daniel Pawtowski dpawtows@vt.edu ------------------------------ From: matmilam@juno.com (Matthew B Milam) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:14:08 EDT Subject: Save Swat Kats Petition! Go to my web page at: http://members.aol.com/matmilam and go to the Swat Kats page and at the bottom is the e-mail address in which i'm collecting for a petition to Hanna-Barbera or if any else knows someone who needs to know more than them. Thank you!! __________________________________________________________ Matthew Milam (matmilam@juno.com) ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:13:12 -0400 Subject: Re: A reply to kats-digest V1 #16 >>Parodies are also welcome on the list, provided they're in reasonably >>good taste and as much on-topic as possible. > >Er, does this mean cross-overs aren't allowed? I sure hope they are! "The Watcher Files of Chance Furlong" is a spoof (not a crossover) but it's reeealllyy close to "Highlander:The Series" while "X-File #10-1115" is an obvious XF/SK crossover. Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:08:51 -0400 Subject: Re: Feline stuff At 08:46 PM 9/17/96 +0800, you wrote: >At 08:48 AM 9/16/96 -0600, someone wrote: > >>If milk and fish are so popular, I doubt they'd always be consumed in their >>most plain form. Milk could be divided into all sorts of different >>products. Drinks could include normal milk (which is as normal as water), >>meat-flavored milk juices, milk sodas... If they have cheese on Katworld, >>there could be millions of different varieties of that. I could go on... There is a "Kitty Kola" company. You can see it when Pastie takes his little helicopter ride in the beginning of "The Past. Always Rings Twice" and there's a downward shot. It's a neon sign above a building. >I concur with the general idea (although meat-flavoured milk juices sounds >rather extreme ...) I'll agree on that. >I kind of thought of milk as an analogous to grape juice: >It's great in it's most basic state, but there's a whole bunch of things you >can do with it, like make wine out of it. No doubt the "milk" that Mayor >Manx and the SwatKats drink were meant to be parallels to wine and beer >respectively and likely have some alcoholic content. There's also a scene in "Ci-kat-ta" I believe, where the Mayor Manx and those Japanese dealer guys are driving up to Megakat Tower (I think it's just before they get slimed) and you can see there's a wine-type bottle in the limo, though the label reads "milk." You can assume what you want, but I think that label was done for two reasons : 1) you just can't have alcohol on kid shows, and everyone wanted to be sure there was no confusion as to the contents of that bottle. 2) It was another attempt to "katatize" the show as I like to put it--taking human things and adjusting them to a more "cat-like" atmosphere. Same thing with the concept of "a six pack of milk." The latter was successful, it was a nice little theme, but others failed (litter box in the sky? Gimme a break). >I'm under the impression that Kats behave more like humans with respects to >grooming, although licking seems to be perfectly acceptable. Chance licks >his paw and runs it through his "hair" to look presentable when Callie went >to drop off her car for repairs in The Giant Bacteria for example, and >likely the furballs arise from that. Again, inconsistencies with "katatizing" the show could lead us anywhere in conversations like this. It's really a shame there weren't some more stuff (in my opinion, they just acted *too* human, like those Mighty Ducks), though it's only good when it's thought out; sometimes it's not. > They probably lick their wounds too >although I really can't picture Jake and Chance giving each other tongue baths! Ugh . . . BAD PICTURE! BAD PICTURE! > Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Yvonne Bennett Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:22:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Feline stuff At 08:46 PM 9/17/96 +0800, you wrote: >No doubt the "milk" that Mayor >Manx and the SwatKats drink were meant to be parallels to wine and beer >respectively and likely have some alcoholic content. Alcohol? On a kids show? No, wait. These are Kats.... there has *got* to be katnip. :) :) :3 - -- Yvonne Bennett __/^-^\__ *Miya!* | "Do we stay, or do we go?" -Bester catbunny@nrv.net | (anyone else feel the urge to sing?) ------------------------------ From: kaychang@eden.com (Terra) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:31:34 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Songs All right, Terra's mind is goin' physco again... Are there any songs by any bands you've heard out there that remind you of the 'Kats or any eps? This seems to be a popular topic on a lot of my other groups, and frankly, we've never discussed it as long as I've been part of these group(s) and I'm curious to know... Are there any songs that remind you of A)One of the characters B)One of the eps C)One of the fanfics (?? Yes, strange, but that's me!) D)Just reminded me of the show, okay?? Any takers? (I guess this could be said as a poll, but I'm curious to know...) Terra *~*~* Insanity is a playground for the unimaginitive. ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 14:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: BOUNCE kats: Approval required (fwd) Being the first to receive this before it goes to the list, I get to be the first to reply... > All right, Terra's mind is goin' physco again... > > Are there any songs by any bands you've heard out there that remind you of > the 'Kats or any eps? I've done several Kats music videos using two VCRs and a tape deck (unfortunately, I've since lost the originals, but I have one copy of the videos still around somewhere), and here are some of the songs I used in the videos: "Danger Zone" (from Top Gun) -- Kenny Loggins "Black Cat" -- Janet Jackson (perfect for describing Dark Kat. ;-) "Double Vision" -- Foreigner (set to scenes of "Dark Side of the SWAT Kats") (Wonder if I'm more psycho than Terra here? ) - -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================== "T-Bone, if you drown... I'm gonna kill you!" -- Razor ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 16:49:35 -0600 Subject: Re: Feline stuff At 04:08 PM 9/17/96 -0400, you wrote: >>I concur with the general idea (although meat-flavoured milk juices sounds >>rather extreme ...) I was thinking that while humans are naturally attracted to the taste of fructose and other sugars, kats, just like cats, could be naturally attracted to the scent and taste of blood and animal protein, probably moreso than other things. That's not to say that kats aren't omnivores, though. In a story I've been writing recently, I portrayed a pack of human-like foxes, dogs and wolves living in the mountains of western Galway, Ireland. In developing their culture for the story, one of their favorite drinks was a beer made with garden vegetables and rabbit's blood. >>No doubt the "milk" that Mayor >>Manx and the SwatKats drink were meant to be parallels to wine and beer >>respectively and likely have some alcoholic content. > > There's also a scene in "Ci-kat-ta" I believe, where the Mayor Manx and >those Japanese dealer guys are driving up to Megakat Tower (I think it's >just before they get slimed) and you can see there's a wine-type bottle in >the limo, though the label reads "milk." Earlier, someone mentioned that the fermentation process would spoil milk. But maybe kats have found different ways of making intoxicating beverages; maybe they use mint, which is related to catnip and has a similar effect on cats. Something else: coffee and chocolate could be controlled substances in kat society, since they both have a similar effect that cocaine has on humans. No@h Spro@t "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 17:13:51 -0600 Subject: Re: Songs At 04:31 PM 9/17/96 -0500, Terra wrote: >Are there any songs by any bands you've heard out there that remind you of >the 'Kats or any eps? This seems to be a popular topic on a lot of my other >groups, and frankly, we've never discussed it as long as I've been part of >these group(s) and I'm curious to know... Popular music in 1996 is too grunged and negative and totally sucks. I'm not a fan of 80s heavy metal (PLEASE no), a rare moment in popular music history when metallic music could be plausibly positive, but I HAVE heard fantastic heavy metal soundtracks in various 16-bit console games (Mega Man X series, Battletoads series, others). But with this it's the other way around; it's SK that reminds me of THEM. No@h Spro@t "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: mweb Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 20:41:12 -0400 Subject: Re: Songs At 04:31 PM 09/17/96 -0500, you wrote: >Are there any songs by any bands you've heard out there that remind you of >the 'Kats or any eps? This seems to be a popular topic on a lot of my other >groups, and frankly, we've never discussed it as long as I've been part of >these group(s) and I'm curious to know... How 'bout "Cat Scratch Fever" by Ted Nugent! "I Can't Drive Fifty-five" while Razor's piloting the Cyclotron. And of course, "Bad to the (T)Bone"! ____________________________________________________ mweb@mich.com aka "Purrcy" http://www.mich.com/~mweb ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:55:39 -0700 Subject: Re: Songs >All right, Terra's mind is goin' physco again... Hey Terra! Havn't heard from you in a long time! >Are there any songs by any bands you've heard out there that remind you of >the 'Kats or any eps? That would be indefinate. >I'm curious to know... > >Are there any songs that remind you of > >A)One of the characters Insert percussion song that plays in Project A-ko reminds me of Jake. Call My Name (And I'll be there) Sailor Moon insert song (from the CD) reminds me of Naiome (Well...;) Hold me Thrill me Kiss me Kill me by Arosmith reminds me of T-Bone. (when I listen to music, I can't hear the words til the 2500th time I've heard it!) Follow Your Dreams reminds me of Turmoil... >B)One of the eps The second song in the Mission Impossible (the one with only three songs) reminds me of Dark Side of the SWAT Kats, Sara's Song from Epic Megagame's Tyrian reminds me of Unlikly Alloys, The music from right when you start up One Must Fall: 2097 From Epic Megagames reminds me of Wrath of Dark Kat... >C)One of the fanfics (?? Yes, strange, but that's me!) That's me too! It's A New Day reminds me of Midnight Magic 3 part 1, The musical score from Project A-ko 2 reminds me of Midnight Magic 1 part 2, The musical score from Project A-ko 1, 5, & 6 remind me of Midnight Magic 1 part one (Music, is my main inspiration when writing a fanfic!)... >D)Just reminded me of the show, okay?? Mortal Kambat the movie songs remind of SK in general. > >Any takers? I'll take fifty of whatever SK item you're selling!!! > ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist, Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm Nihongo [Japanese language] o [object marker] no mane o suranaide [mimic; imperative polite negative tense] kudasai [please]. Suwatto Katto o sukimasu yo! [SWAT Kats like!] (I love SWAT Kats!) ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #18 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n019' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #19 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Wednesday, 18 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 019 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Pastmaster Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 18:59:57 -0700 Subject: Re: Feline stuff >>No doubt the "milk" that Mayor >>Manx and the SwatKats drink were meant to be parallels to wine and beer >>respectively and likely have some alcoholic content. > >Alcohol? On a kids show? I've always thought Milk was some beer equivalent. That would explain why the Mayor makes stupid decisions and dosn't do paperwork!! I've thought of many ways on trying to incorperating that aspect into my fanfics. >No, wait. These are Kats.... there has *got* to be katnip. There is. Remember the ep: "The Metalikats"? They have Katnip on that ep. ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist, Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm Nihongo [Japanese language] o [object marker] no mane o suranaide [mimic; imperative polite negative tense] kudasai [please]. Suwatto Katto o sukimasu yo! [SWAT Kats like!] (I love SWAT Kats!) ------------------------------ From: chance Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 22:29:47 -0700 Subject: Re: Songs At 04:31 PM 9/17/96 -0500, Terra wrote: >All right, Terra's mind is goin' physco again... Well, then I'm along for the ride. >Are there any songs by any bands you've heard out there that remind you of >the 'Kats or any eps? This seems to be a popular topic on a lot of my other >groups, and frankly, we've never discussed it as long as I've been part of >these group(s) and I'm curious to know... My local station has resuscitated a song from a couple of years ago called "Love Cats (Kats??!) by The Cure. Great song, and one of my favourite groups to boot. To a lesser degree, there's also "Putting Out Fires with Gasoline" by David Bowie - the theme song from an old '85 movie called - wait for it - "Cat People"! >Insanity is a playground for the unimaginitive. Aww...who told you? Stay off the Monkey Bars. They're all mine. ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #19 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n020' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #20 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Thursday, 19 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 020 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julian Ho" Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 23:04:26 +0800 Subject: Re: Songs How about "Condition Green" from the Japanese anime soundtrack of Patlabor? The chorus "I'll fly, fly away" describes the SWAT Kats taking off from the hangar perfectly, even though the melody doesn't suit the mood. Later. ************JULIAN HO < julianho@singnet.com.sg >************ |\_/| SWAT ||Kats: The Radical Squadron \ / IS FUREVER !! V Razor: "Whoah! He *does* have eyes on the back of his head!" T-Bone : "No excuses." Coming soon, my own web page! ------------------------------ From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:15:52 +0700 (WIB) Subject: [none] Subject: Re: A reply to kats-digest V1 #16 > I sure hope they are! "The Watcher Files of Chance Furlong" is a spoof >(not a crossover) What is a watcher files? >but it's reeealllyy close to "Highlander:The Series" while >"X-File #10-1115" is an obvious XF/SK crossover. What?! No Katylon 5? Subject: Re: Feline stuff >At 08:46 PM 9/17/96 +0800, you wrote: >>No doubt the "milk" that Mayor >>Manx and the SwatKats drink were meant to be parallels to wine and beer >>respectively and likely have some alcoholic content. > >Alcohol? On a kids show? Well, I think that they have subtitute alcohol with milk in "Cry Turmoil". >No, wait. These are Kats.... there has *got* to be katnip. There is a katnip somewhere in the kats world. You got to watch those episodes more carefully, sometimes they slip things to an episode that could go unnoticed. Subject: Re: Songs >All right, Terra's mind is goin' physco again... > >Are there any songs by any bands you've heard out there that remind you of >the 'Kats or any eps? Listen to the music Terra, not the song. >This seems to be a popular topic on a lot of my other >groups, and frankly, we've never discussed it as long as I've been part of >these group(s) and I'm curious to know... Well, we once talk about songs and music in the kats world. BTW, do the kats got any idol singer? >Are there any songs that remind you of > >A)One of the characters Well, just like what I said before to Ryan, every love song I hear it reminded me of the relationships between Jake and Chance or T-Bone and Razor. And "Alley Kat" remind me of Feral and every alley kats in MegaKat City. >B)One of the eps The one in "Unlikely Alloys" remind me of a standard Sci-Fi music. >C)One of the fanfics (?? Yes, strange, but that's me!) I got a song that is probably perfect for my fanfic story. >D)Just reminded me of the show, okay?? The theme of SWAT Kats: The Radical Squadron. But seriously, every heavy metal music kinda remind me of SWAT Kats. >Any takers? (I guess this could be said as a poll, but I'm curious to know...) Any takers on making a SK midi file? Subject: Re: Hairball >Doc forgot to mention that the medical term for a hairball is BEZOAR! >Wouldn't that make a great name for a cat, or a fanfic Kat? Sounds like a name for a villain. Or an alien type kat. >Formerly, bezoars were highly valued (especially big ones from goats, etc) >because of their magical properties. There are even some in the crown jewels >of Britain. > >Now how about that for odd? Kats maybe got their very own version of that too. BTW, is there an UK type thing in the kats planet? ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 23:41:41 +0800 Subject: Re: Feline stuff Pastmaster wrote: >I've always thought Milk was some beer equivalent. That would explain why. Perhaps there are different categories of Milk in the Kat world. Sort of like plain soda, alcoholic soda, transparent soda, and other kind of sodas. (*Soda in the brain. *Hic!* **** *Hic!*) Wonder if the quality and quantity of Milk available will be affected by Dr Viper's Giant Bacteria? :-) ************JULIAN HO < julianho@singnet.com.sg >************ "Milk... It makes a body spout." - A Cow from one of the 'Tiny Toon Adventures' episodes. (Comment: Spout from the nose, that is.) Coming soon, my own web page! ------------------------------ From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 15:51:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Swat Kats World > BTW, in "The Wrath of Dark Kat", Dark Kat says that he gonna destroy the > new Enforcer building, if that is the new one, where is the old one? Perhaps it got stepped on by KatZillia the previous month? Even if nothing happened to it, then maybe the old one was simply to small/too old/the AC didn't work right/whatever. The new one is equipped with a runway and hangar on the roof, maybe a lack of such facilities was a problem with the old one. > But Dark Kat could be working WITH somebody, somebody who has the same > purpose just like him. And, as per usuall supervillian conduct, each is planning on backstabbing the other when they're no longer useful. :-) > Note: Is it just me or the PumaDyne's scientist really says earthquake? Actually, "Earthquake" _is_ a term used by NASA for describing seismic tremors on other planets or the Moon. They're not going to tounge-tie themselves with "Moonquake", "Marsquake", "Europaquake", etc. > Maybe because Manx doesn't want another aircraft named the Blue Manx cause > trouble to the city again, it could be a bad thing for the election. If a plane is sucessful, and _that's_ the only thing wrong with it, then the company that built it is not gonna let a name problem stand in the way of a multibillion-dollar military contract. They spent ungodly amounts of money in R&D to build the darned thing. Give it a different name and a different paint job and sell it to them in six months. > Although interestingly, it has an automatic attack mode, does Razor > programmed the mode or is it a part of the Macrobots programs? Dosen't look like he had time, and such things dosen't seem to be the way the SWAT KAts operate- we've never seen the TurboKat or the Cyclotron attack by themselves. On the other hand, Hackle _is_ an expert at building robots capable of independent operation (Just take the Metalikats, for example), and the MacroBots were built on his designs. Chances are, the original version had an "Automatic Explore Mode", "Automatic Return-to-Ship Mode" or some such similar peaceful program, but PumaDyne changed it when they turned them into weapons systems. > Maybe because that the Macrobots could be a failed invention, the bots were > design for space exploration, but PumaDyne tweaked them so that it will be > a mobile suit tank. During that modification, some of its original The thing is, there was nothing "failed" about them. PumaDyne built them as walking tanks. Irregardless of what Hackle had _wanted_ them to be, they proved that they were very *good* walking tanks. In minutes, they sucessfully defeated the SWAT Kats. Feral's been trying for _years_ to build a tank or plane capable of that. If Molly hadn't stupidly left the top hatch open on hers, they likely would have won, the TurboKat couldn't even scratch their paint. As built, they certainly would have failed as space exploration units, PumaDyne probably had to delete most of their sensor and life-support gear to make room for all those missiles and guns. > Maybe in the original design, it could land of its four feet (to land on > the surface of other planets) and that fall on in "Metal Urgency" could be A good point, as an exploration unit would be intended to climb mountains on other planets with different gravities, in far-off regions where there is no chance of rescue in case of an accident. It's certainly possible that the original design had jump-rockets or flight thrusters, something that PumaDyne decided wasn't necessary in the new mission of "walking engine of destruction". The military version is probably a lot heavier than the original, too, with all that extra armor. Even if it had the original "land on feet" mode, it might have simply been to heavy to do it anymore. Daniel Pawtowski dpawtows@vt.edu ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:57:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Save Swat Kats Petition! Forgot to add this to my last note: I'll be happy to forward all my soundtrack petition stuff to someone who wants to take over for me. ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 15:53:33 -0400 Subject: Re: (no particular subject) >> I sure hope they are! "The Watcher Files of Chance Furlong" is a spoof >>(not a crossover) > >What is a watcher files? If you mean you don't know what I'm talking about, it's a fanfic I'm currently having edited. If you mean "what are watcher files?"--well, you just have to wait to read the story. >>but it's reeealllyy close to "Highlander:The Series" while >>"X-File #10-1115" is an obvious XF/SK crossover. > >What?! No Katylon 5? Sorry. Never seen Babylon. >BTW, is there an UK type thing in the kats planet? Never discussed, but there is a Britian (and Scotland) in "The Watcher Files..." Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Yvonne Bennett Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:36:48 -0400 Subject: Re: At 06:15 PM 9/18/96 +0700, you wrote: >Subject: Re: A reply to kats-digest V1 #16 > >>but it's reeealllyy close to "Highlander:The Series" while >>"X-File #10-1115" is an obvious XF/SK crossover. > >What?! No Katylon 5? *ooohhh*... *Yvonne's brain fries as she tries to come up with name transfers* >>>Manx and the SwatKats drink were meant to be parallels to wine and beer >>>respectively and likely have some alcoholic content. >> >>Alcohol? On a kids show? > >Well, I think that they have subtitute alcohol with milk in "Cry Turmoil". Yeah... In the episode with the Blue Manx, the plane was christened with a bottle of milk, too. - -- Yvonne Bennett __/^-^\__ *Miya!* | "Do we stay, or do we go?" -Bester catbunny@nrv.net | (anyone else feel the urge to sing?) ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 14:52:28 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Edo's contagious Ok, so you've noticed I've been lurking lately, and I'm probably going to continue to do that... here's the explaination. Right after Edo got over the Ted virus, I caught it. I just somehow don't have any interest in SK anymore (maybe I need to watch some eps., haven't done that in a long time.) Yes, Ryan, I got your letter, and I will still be making those pictures for you, but I will no longer be making any more hand-made copies after Ryan. I will be happy to make color copies, though. The FCNL? Well, I'm not quite sure whether I'm going to continue that or not. The SK encyclopedia? I deleted it just two days ago. Will I still be on this list? Sure! If you wanna talk, just drop me a line. I'd be happy to stay in touch. My cel? Well, once I get a scanner, I guarantee I'll scan all my art and my cel onto rat's site! Oh yeah, Dana has been scaring me a little to do some posting, so I hope this'll come through. Now, before I return to lurking, I have one more SK question to ask for the 3rd time : DOES AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN FEMALE DO THE VOICE OF MOLLY METALLIKAT???!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!?? I cut off the rest of my sig due to the 4 line limit. ___------__ | A.J. Freda |\__-- /\ _- | ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us |/ __ - | "Tails" on IRC //\ / \ /__ --------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Jesus Fernandez Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 19:39:59 -0500 Subject: Re: The Sequel On Atlanta ! (Heh Heh Heh) Chris Tom Cimafranca wrote: > > SEQUEL - Well, Got Lots Of New Ideas For It, Gonna Work On It Fur > Awhile, > If I Don't Post To The List Fur A Few Hours, You'll > Know Why. > > BTW - Also HTMLing The FCNL Issues 1 And 2, They'll Be Up Soon ! > (Thanks Fur Getting Me Off My Duff To Do It !) > > ETC - As To The Kats Behavour (sp) So, They Don't Act Like > Earth Cats ? That's Because It's Not Earth ! It Could > Be A Paralal (sp) Earth, That Would Be Interesting ! > (Someone Out There Want To Do A Sliders / SWAT Kats > Crossover Fanfic ? Get Your Creativity Flowing !) Oh! Oh! Me! Me! Actually I could use this as the debut ep for those comics I said I was gonna do as a filler until AJ gets his new 'puter and that animation software. BTW, Ryan, two things: 1) Can I use that Robyn Alexander Dance Studio Nuke-a-thon in my story? It's going to make a great dimension.. 2) Can I co-host the fanletter, maybe as a backup set.. just to have those in records just in case.. or just because I really think it looks nice.. Has anyone noticed that Edo is posting now? So.. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Welcome Back - Welcome Back - Welcome Back - Welcome Back - Welcome Back - Welcome Back - Welcome Back - Yay! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ A BTW in the BTW.. I've made little SK spine pictures for my binders (since they have that little thing you can slide stuff into..) and they look really cool.. I'm going to post the base file I used to make it on my site. (though there is room for improvement. I'd really like a SK design in the background, working on it..) Next step, front and back pages!!! BTW^3 expect a new member to the list.. and also I might house my purr-sonal pages.. so keep on the lookout! - -JF ------------------------------ From: Jesus Fernandez Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 20:37:49 -0500 Subject: [Fwd: Re: Edo's contagious] These reply-to headers are really messing me up! Subject: Re: Edo's contagious References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ARTHUR JOHN FREDA wrote: > > Ok, so you've noticed I've been lurking lately, and I'm probably going to > continue to do that... here's the explaination. > > Right after Edo got over the Ted virus, I caught it. I just > somehow don't have any interest in SK anymore (maybe I need to watch some > eps., haven't done that in a long time.) Yes, Ryan, I got your letter, and > I will still be making those pictures for you, but I will no longer be > making any more hand-made copies after Ryan. I will be happy to make color > copies, though. NOOOO! > The FCNL? Well, I'm not quite sure whether I'm going to continue > that or not. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! Not the Newsletter.. c'mon! I can't see why you're going to cancel the newsletter! It's GREAT! Even better even!! > The SK encyclopedia? I deleted it just two days ago. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Oh well.. there goes the neighborhood.. I can't understand how you can let all that work just go?? All that time, and you just decide to _delete_ it, how could ya? > Will I still be on this list? Sure! If you wanna talk, just drop > me a line. I'd be happy to stay in touch. ohhhhhhh.... Hmm very peculiar, I sometimes question the show for a few seconds, but I shake it off, IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!! tED's LURKERS ARE SENDING VIRUSES THAT ARE PLAYING WITH OUR HEADS!!!!! okay, calm down.. it's all about will power.. is this tED's version of Outbreak? Sorry for the paranoia, but is the time without SK getting to us? Have we lost our never-say-die-not-even-if-the-whole-world-is-going-to-blow-up edge that kept this show alive after _all_ this time? What if it is.. what if this feeling is going to pick us off one by one until we are gone.. and let tED savour victory?? Yeah Right! Heck no! I like the show too much! Just my 2 cents! Advice to AJ: Watch lots and lots of SK eps.. NOW! THIS IS AN ORDER! - -JF C:\belfry\ is where I keep my .bat files. - --------------634311F6AE1-- ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 21:00:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Back by popular demand and my love of doing it... The FCNL WILL CONTINUE! I've gotten a few letters about it, and I also like making it! So expect to see another in November!!! ------------------------------ From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:28:05 -0700 Subject: Re: The Sequel On Atlanta ! (Heh Heh Heh) Jesus Fernandez wrote: > 2) Can I co-host the fanletter, maybe as a backup set.. just to have > those in records just in case.. or just because I really think it looks > nice.. I Don't Mind If You Co-Host The Fanletter, I'm All Fur It ! (Just Right Click On The Images At My Site And DL 'Em !) BTW Purr-sonal Page - I've Got One At My Site, It's Boring As Heck ! (http://www.indra.com/~narf/myself.htm) But, I Could Do A Better One Fur Me Fur Your Site ! Just What I Need, Another Page To Design ! =) BTW^2 Should I Put Up A Page Fur Action Figures / Toys Wish List ? (Just Thought I'd Ask) I Would Put It On The Main Wish List, But It's Kinda Long As It Is, Sigh - O - Rama ! BTW^3 Speaking Of Pages, I'm In The Middle Of Putting Up More Graphics On My Site, Thanks To Rat ! (Gonna Convert Them To Bitmap, Color Them, Convert Them Back To Gif Or Jpeg Put Them Where They Belong, And Stuff Like That !) BTW^4 The War On Atlanta : The Sequel ! Well I Did Some More Of It, And I Want Some Opinions ! Do You Like It So Far ? Do You Hate It So Far ? Are You Gonna Get Chris To Write The Second Act Now By Complaining About How He Wrote You In It ? Did I Rune You ? Are There Too Many Punz ? Not Enough Punz ? Did You Leave The Oven On ? What ? Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ Yet Another Bad Pun On It's Way To - The War On Atlanta : The Sequel ! Teenage Mutant Ninja Sig File ! - --------------------------------------------------- SWAT Kats : The Radical Squadron : Kode Version 1.0 CR/CT8 A++ D+ M++ P++ T W RLAT a t C++dw d++ e* f h i+++wk p* sm Zm http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm - - OR - http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers ------------------------------ From: owner-kats Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 20:53:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [none] Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:52:27 -0600 X-Sender: sproatne@utah-inter.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@maxie.com From: "H@rd Drive" Subject: Re: Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 18:52:27 -0600 Message-ID: <19960919005226432.AAA546@provo_24.utah-inter.net> Sender: owner-kats Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats' in the message body At 06:15 PM 9/18/96 +0700, Edo Andromedo wrote: >BTW, is there an UK type thing in the kats planet? Since Megakat City is very much like an American society, you can't JUST consider "Is there a UK?" There's other very big cultural influences that makes America so unique from any other former British colony. Is there a Germany? Is there an Ireland? Is there a France, or Nigeria, or Italy, or Sweden, or Mexico, or Canada, or Cuba, or Hungary, or Haiti, or Poland, or Slovakia, or India, or Korea, or the Philippines...I'll stop. Every cultural influence is so interlocked that it would only make sense to describe Katworld as an almost total clone of earth. Take England for example. The way England is, it can't exist quite the way it is without a history involving Wales, Normandy, Denmark, Ireland, and many other smaller examples. And none of those include how individuals had had an influence on history. (I watch too many James Burke shows; "Connections", "The Day the Universe Changed", "Connections2"... That leads people to read, study and think, and that can have devastating consequences.) =^^= No@h Spro@t "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: Paul Kemner Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 20:56:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: SK Muzik Terra mentioned songs? How about: Ann Gora - "Dirty Laundry" by Don Henley (great video potential!) Lieter Greenbox "Guitar Shop" by Jeff Beck Chance & Jake at the shop: "TV Dinners" - ZZ Top The Metalikats "The Mystical Potato Head Groove Thing" - Joe Satriani The Guys in the TurboKat: "Back to Shalla-Bal" - Joe Satriani Morbius- "Strange" - Joe Satriani (the last 3 are off the 'Flying in a Blue Dream" CD) =^^= ------------------------------ From: chance Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 19:55:47 -0700 Subject: Save the "Save SwatKats Petition" for a couple months... At 02:57 PM 9/18/96 -0400, ARTHUR JOHN FREDA wrote: >Forgot to add this to my last note: > >I'll be happy to forward all my soundtrack petition stuff to someone who >wants to take over for me. Everything at H-B and parts of the Turner Empire are in a state of flux at the moment, so you might be addressing your petition to someone who might be in charge of repainting parking stalls by the time they get it. Once they nail the lid shut on this merger thing, we'll have a clearer idea of exactly who'll be responsible for (and perhaps responsive to) what. (P.S. I'm sending a bunch of Mook eps to Warners just to show them what it's all about.) ------------------------------ From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 21:20:02 -0700 Subject: Re: Save the "Save SwatKats Petition" for a couple months... chance wrote: > > At 02:57 PM 9/18/96 -0400, ARTHUR JOHN FREDA wrote: > >Forgot to add this to my last note: > > > >I'll be happy to forward all my soundtrack petition stuff to someone who > >wants to take over for me. > > Everything at H-B and parts of the Turner Empire are in a state of flux at the > moment, so you might be addressing your petition to someone who might > be in charge of repainting parking stalls by the time they get it. Once they > nail the lid shut on this merger thing, we'll have a clearer idea of exactly > who'll be responsible for (and perhaps responsive to) what. > > (P.S. I'm sending a bunch of Mook eps to Warners just to show them > what it's all about.) YES ! YES ! YES ! YES ! YES ! YES ! YES ! YES ! YES ! YES ! Warner Brothers 3000 Warner Blvd Burbank, Ca 91510 Just In Case Anyone Else Wants In On This Fun ! Chris 'TOON' Cimafranca ^^^ Knew I Kept That Address Fur A Good Reason ! Le Teenaged Mutantsaurus Ninja Sig File ! - --------------------------------------------------- SWAT Kats : The Radical Squadron : Kode Version 1.0 CR/CT8 A++ D+ M++ P++ T W RLAT a t C++dw d++ e* f h i+++wk p* sm Zm http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm - - OR - http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #20 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n021' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #21 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Friday, 20 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 021 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 07:31:48 -0700 Subject: SWAT Kats Game For Windows ! Okay, Has Anyone Ever Heard Of Klik & Play ? http://www.maxis.com (For Info) If You Have, I've Got It ! If You've Read The Wish List http://www.indra.com/~narf/wishlist.htm You've Seen My Request For A Windows Game Useing Klik & Play, Well I'm Gonna Try To Make It For Everyone ! I'm Recoding Sounds Off Of Video Tapes, (Standard Lines From The Kats Stuff) I've Downloaded Some .avi Files Of The Show's Opening For Insperation For The Game's Opening, And You've Seen The Banner On My Main Kats Page, That Will Be Put Into The Game, Count On It ! The Game, When It's Done, Will Be Put On My Site So You Can Download It Fur Free ! (Yes, It's Freeware !) I'll Call It 1.0 Untill I Get Better Ideas Form Everyone On Improvments ! Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ Whew ! Lots Of Typing ! Sig File 2.0 - --------------------------------------------------- SWAT Kats : The Radical Squadron : Kode Version 1.0 CR/CT8 A++ D+ M++ P++ T W RLAT a t C++dw d++ e* f h i+++wk p* sm Zm http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm - - OR - http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers ------------------------------ From: chance Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 07:46:53 -0700 Subject: Re: Save the "Save SwatKats Petition" for a couple months... At 09:20 PM 9/18/96 -0700, Chris Tom Cimafranca wrote: >chance wrote: >> (P.S. I'm sending a bunch of Mook eps to Warners just to show them >> what it's all about.) Chris wrote: > YES ! YES ! YES ! YES ! YES ! YES ! YES ! YES ! YES ! YES ! > > Warner Brothers > 3000 Warner Blvd > Burbank, Ca 91510 > > Just In Case Anyone Else Wants In On This Fun ! Yeah...you could presumably do that with letters and such requesting the program's return, but it's still kinda unclear if Warners will be just nominal head of the resulting beast, or actually "take over" Ted's operations intoto. When the merger-thing was in "on-again, off-again" mode, the arrangement at that time was to have Ted retain day-to-day control of things like H-B, and be second-in-command of the megalithic Time-Warner Company in addition. Some Warners shareholders balked at that, and it went back to the table for further revisions. Again, save your stamps until we find out who winds up holding the keys to Turbokat. ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:22:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FCNL Somebody asked me what the FCNL was: Fan Club NewsLetter It's a magazine I publish of SK bi-monthly. Don't forget to send callie fanmail! The FCNL is on Edo's site. ------------------------------ From: kaychang@eden.com (Terra) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:18:00 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: Songs >At 04:31 PM 9/17/96 -0500, Terra wrote: >>All right, Terra's mind is goin' physco again... > >Well, then I'm along for the ride. :) >>Are there any songs by any bands you've heard out there that remind you of >>the 'Kats or any eps? This seems to be a popular topic on a lot of my other >>groups, and frankly, we've never discussed it as long as I've been part of >>these group(s) and I'm curious to know... > >My local station has resuscitated a song from a couple of years >ago called "Love Cats (Kats??!) by The Cure. Great song, and >one of my favourite groups to boot. To a lesser degree, there's >also "Putting Out Fires with Gasoline" by David Bowie - the theme >song from an old '85 movie called - wait for it - "Cat People"! Cat People? I saw a Batman ep with cat people... I swear, one of 'em looked 'zactly like Jake would... a little less "humanized" I guess, but still looked a lot like Jake... Hmm... maybe our 'Kats are finding spare jobs to pass the time while we hammer on tED's brain, wot? ;) >>Insanity is a playground for the unimaginitive. > >Aww...who told you? Stay off the Monkey Bars. They're all mine. Not fair! I want the Monkey Bars too... Okay then, I GET THE SWINGS!!!! ;D Terra *~*~* Insanity is a playground for the unimaginitive. ------------------------------ From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 04:48:18 +0700 (WIB) Subject: My message to the list Dr. Jake Clawson wrote: >>> I sure hope they are! "The Watcher Files of Chance Furlong" is a spoof >>>(not a crossover) >> >>What is a watcher files? > > If you mean you don't know what I'm talking about, it's a fanfic I'm >currently having edited. You told about the story in your private e-mail to me, remember? > If you mean "what are watcher files?"--well, you just have to wait to >read the story. Who are the watcher? Someone who watches alot? >>>but it's reeealllyy close to "Highlander:The Series" while >>>"X-File #10-1115" is an obvious XF/SK crossover. >> >>What?! No Katylon 5? > > Sorry. Never seen Babylon. Well, you must definetly check it out if it's on your local TV station, it's like watching a five year long movie in TV! >>BTW, is there an UK type thing in the kats planet? > > Never discussed, but there is a Britian (and Scotland) in "The Watcher >Files..." Ahhh..... United Kats, I think that I'm gonna make O'Neill comes from there. Subject: Re: Edo's contagious Arthur Freda wrote: >Ok, so you've noticed I've been lurking lately, and I'm probably going to >continue to do that... here's the explaination. > > Right after Edo got over the Ted virus, I caught it. I just >somehow don't have any interest in SK anymore. Don't worry AJ, the process CAN be reversed! Just ask Dr. Konway for the anti virus. >Yes, Ryan, I got your letter, and >I will still be making those pictures for you, but I will no longer be >making any more hand-made copies after Ryan. I will be happy to make color >copies, though. Don't forget a SK KISS file! Ryan want to French KISS someone. > The FCNL? Well, I'm not quite sure whether I'm going to continue >that or not. Well, maybe we should divide the tasks on making the FCNL. Someone who work on the design, someone who work on the editorial, someone who work on the graphics, someone who work on the mailing stuff, someone who...... Aarggghhh!!! We need Tortie's help! > The SK encyclopedia? I deleted it just two days ago. Aw crud, I guess that I have to go Solo for this. > Will I still be on this list? Sure! If you wanna talk, just drop >me a line. I'd be happy to stay in touch. Well, nice seeing you. > My cel? Well, once I get a scanner, I guarantee I'll scan all my >art and my cel onto rat's site! Yeah, after all, I can not keep grabbing all of those scenes from the episodes using my video digitizer. I need to see something different, like cels and fan art stuff. >Oh yeah, Dana has been scaring me a little to do some posting, so I hope >this'll come through. Well, he assimilated all of my previous posting into one 4k message. Scary yes, but he do it for the sake of the list. >Now, before I return to lurking, I have one more SK question to ask for >the 3rd time : DOES AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN FEMALE DO THE VOICE OF MOLLY >METALLIKAT???!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!?? We definetly going to need a SK seiyuu page. ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: odds and ends... A few odds and ends on some listmail: Daniel: > We've never seen the TurboKat or the Cyclotron attack by themselves. Razor *has* programmed the Turbokat to at least be flown by remote control, with his Glovatrix (cf. "Mutation City") and T-Bone can fire weapons from the Turbokat from his seat. But you're right in that neither has been able (or at least been *shown*) to fire weapons remotely. Yvonne: > Yeah... In the episode with the Blue Manx, the plane was christened > with a bottle of milk. Milk-flavored champagne, maybe? chance: > I'm sending a bunch of Mook eps to Warners just to show them what > it's all about. I wonder how many of the Warner execs will be like those of us on here who compared the Kats to Road Rovers when RR first came out? Adminstrata stuff (no, I'm not picking on anyone here) -- I start a new job on Monday, so don't expect any listmail between the hours of roughly 8 am to 6 pm Pacific. (I send out listmail as soon as I receive it and can get to it, which is why listmail appears to arrive in spurts). Digests won't be affected. - -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================== "T-Bone, if you drown... I'm gonna kill you!" -- Razor ------------------------------ From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 16:58:27 -0700 Subject: Re: FCNL ARTHUR JOHN FREDA wrote: > > Somebody asked me what the FCNL was: > Fan Club NewsLetter > It's a magazine I publish of SK bi-monthly. > Don't forget to send callie fanmail! > The FCNL is on Edo's site. Edo's Site Is Back Up ? If Not, It's Also At My Site ! Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ Gonna Make A SWAT Kats Game Fur Windows 3.1 Over The Next Month Or So ! The War On Sig File : The Sequel ! - --------------------------------------------------- SWAT Kats : The Radical Squadron : Kode Version 1.0 CR/CT8 A++ D+ M++ P++ T W RLAT a t C++dw d++ e* f h i+++wk p* sm Zm http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm - - OR - http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 20:34:05 -0400 Subject: Re: My message to the list >> If you mean "what are watcher files?"--well, you just have to wait to >>read the story. >Who are the watcher? Someone who watches alot? Like I said, you'll have to read the story (or watch "Highlander: The Series") It's almost ready, BTW--I found someone for accented dialogue, and as soon as she finishes I'll send it to Jesus/Terra/anyone who requests. >> Sorry. Never seen Babylon. > >Well, you must definetly check it out if it's on your local TV station, >it's like watching a five year long movie in TV! Haven't had the chance yet (no pun intended) >>>BTW, is there an UK type thing in the kats planet? >> >> Never discussed, but there is a Britian (and Scotland) in "The Watcher >>Files..." > >Ahhh..... United Kats, I think that I'm gonna make O'Neill comes from there. O'Neill? Are we talking about seaQuest or unreleased-fanfic characters? Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 20:43:50 -0400 Subject: Uh oh I called Davis Doi (ex-producer of SKs, currently producer of JQ) up today to see how he's doing. After all, his episodes (the ones made by the kat team) for JQ have never aired, and JQ is probably an official bomb by now, so we're all worried about his (and the rest of the former kat team's) welfare. I left a message on the answering machine (he isn't in his office too often) asking him to call back at his leasure, and here's the strange thing: I've called him and gotten an answering machine a number of times; it's safer to just leave a message and wait for a call back so I don't interrupt his work schedule. Last time I got him in the office he was kind of busy. Anyway, I'd become familiar with his answering machine message. It was a female voice, saying something like, "Answering Services for : Davis Doi." That was it. Anyway, I called and this time got a message actually by *him* that went like this : "Hi! This is Davis! Please leave a message because I'm too busy staring out my window." (or something to that effect) I don't know if this is some kind of sign that he doesn't have any work to do, which is a *bad* sign. Oh well. Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 18:13:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Edo's contagious] >> Ok, so you've noticed I've been lurking lately, and I'm probably going to >> continue to do that... here's the explaination. >> >> Right after Edo got over the Ted virus, I caught it. I think I've gotten it too. UGH! I've more literally got it, though. I have some kinda cold... and just realized that I havn't written any new fanfic for a while. (Is it because I bought Monty Python and the Quest for the Holy Grail computer came?) I'm going to ask that if those who have my Midnight Magic on their web servers to remove it so I can edit them so they're not so... you know. I'll put them back up when I've finished editing the origionals. >> I just >> somehow don't have any interest in SK anymore Me too. I think it's time to watch SK again. Mabye then I'll realize that not everyone's as tall as Dark Kat as I now remember them to look like. > >NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOO!!! You took the words outta my mouth! I'm saying that times two! >Oh well.. there goes the neighborhood.. Well, I knew I'd crack. I'm best friends with the unofficial anti-SK Extremist. > I can't understand how you can >let all that work just go?? >All that time, and you just decide to _delete_ it, how could ya? Wouldn't matter about the FNCL, I've got two copies of each one, and half his wave files! Sorry, AJ, your newsletter'll live even if you do your worst to wipe it off the face of the earth! > > Hmm very peculiar, I sometimes question the show for a few >seconds, but I shake it off, I get that, but... I think you're thinking about something altogether! >IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!! tED's LURKERS ARE >SENDING VIRUSES THAT ARE PLAYING WITH OUR HEADS!!!!! I've got an excuse! Two of 'em! I was near Edo trying to show him what he's throwing away, and the anti-SK extremist has been trying to brainwash me, and she usually has great success. I CAN'T WIN!!!!! >Sorry for the >paranoia, but is the time without SK getting to us? Mabye. We'd all have to watch our taped eps (if anyone else out there besides me still has this option) as soon as possible, and if anyone else out there's feeling like SK is kinda boring, then this is for you MOON HEALING ACTIVATION!!!! (Trust me on this!) >Have we lost our >never-say-die-not-even-if-the-whole-world-is-going-to-blow-up edge that >kept this show alive after _all_ this time? I don't think I ever will! >What if it is.. what if this >feeling is going to pick us off one by one until we are gone... tED will have to kill me first. BTW, I had a cow kiss him on the nose! Why? The cow looked just like him... oh! Sorry! Insult to the cow!! (^3 Advice to AJ and anyone else feeling like they might start to think the show's dull: Watch lots and lots of SK eps.. NOW! THIS IS AN ORDER! ____________________________________________________________________________ Ryan "Esteban (Eh STAY bon)" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist, Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ____________________________________________________________________________ Look what I found on the web! Name: Ted Turner E-mail: ted.turner@turner.com (click to send e-mail) E-mail Provider: Turner Broadcasting System ------------------------------ From: Jesus Fernandez Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 21:33:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Edo's contagious] Pastmaster wrote: > > >> Right after Edo got over the Ted virus, I caught it. > > I think I've gotten it too. UGH! > >> I just > >> somehow don't have any interest in SK anymore > > Me too. I think it's time to watch SK again. Mabye then I'll realize that > not everyone's as tall as Dark Kat as I now remember them to look like. > > > > >NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO > OOOOO!!! > > You took the words outta my mouth! I'm saying that times two! Oh yeah? I'm saying what you're saying plus infinity and one half!! :) > >Oh well.. there goes the neighborhood.. > > Well, I knew I'd crack. I'm best friends with the unofficial anti-SK Extremist. > > > Hmm very peculiar, I sometimes question the show for a few > >seconds, but I shake it off, > > I get that, but... I think you're thinking about something altogether! Update: JF does not get those feelings of doubt anymore! > >IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!! tED's LURKERS ARE > >SENDING VIRUSES THAT ARE PLAYING WITH OUR HEADS!!!!! > > I've got an excuse! Two of 'em! I was near Edo trying to show him what he's > throwing away, and the anti-SK extremist has been trying to brainwash me, > and she usually has great success. I CAN'T WIN!!!!! She is the Dark Side!!! BAD JUJU!!!! BAD JUJU!!!! Umm try to brainwash her back.. uhh act crazy(ier??) and scare her. I know.. this takes some cunning.. but pretend that you are brain washed.. when she doesn't expect it.. get her in front of the TV (before she comes over or something.. slip in your SK ep tape) and say: "BWAHAHAHAHAHA!" Then grab her, do a half nelson (full if you want) and press play!! And hold her for the whole ep.. (do not try this if victim is so much stronger than you she/he can squish you with his/her pinky finger..) > >Have we lost our > >never-say-die-not-even-if-the-whole-world-is-going-to-blow-up edge that > >kept this show alive after _all_ this time? > > I don't think I ever will! Allright!!! > >What if it is.. what if this > >feeling is going to pick us off one by one until we are gone... > > tED will have to kill me first. BTW, I had a cow kiss him on the nose! Why? > The cow looked just like him... oh! Sorry! Insult to the cow!! (^3 > > Advice to AJ and anyone else feeling like they might start to think the > show's dull: Watch lots and lots of SK eps.. NOW! THIS IS AN ORDER! Good thing AJ says he'd like to do some art for the e-comic I'm doing.. Should I make a new script, use one of Lance Falk's or use another fanfic?. BTW, Ryan are you letting me use your Robyn Alexander thing to make a Robyn Alexander Dimension.. (guess what happens) > Look what I found on the web! > Name: Ted Turner > E-mail: ted.turner@turner.com (click to send e-mail) > E-mail Provider: Turner Broadcasting System heh heh heh... heh heh heh.. - -JF ------------------------------ From: packrat@magicbus.com Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 21:04:28 -0500 Subject: Kat music? How about the song "Wild Again" from the Cocktail soundtrack? I can just see Jake and Chance in the Turbokat with that one going... Maybe we could modify the Pinky and the Brain theme song.... Any takers? Insanity is the playground for the unimaginative? Hmmmm.... I been playin there a long time then.... I call the slide! T-Bone "Are you enjoying your meal, my little bullion cube of love?" - Earthworm Jim ------------------------------ From: chance Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 19:48:42 -0700 Subject: The Urge to Merge, and mailing katseps to WB... At 03:37 PM 9/19/96 -0700, Dana Uehara wrote: >chance: >> I'm sending a bunch of Mook eps to Warners just to show them what >> it's all about. > >I wonder how many of the Warner execs will be like those of us on here >who compared the Kats to Road Rovers when RR first came out? Well, they're getting the eps for two-fold reasons. One, they were scratching around for contractors overseas once they dumped Freelance, NZ, and I suggested Mook to one of the producers. Though the individual was familiar with Hanho Heung-Up, he actually told me he'd never seen Mook's work, so now he will. Two, I've also been talking up "SwatKats" to some of 'em since I first saw it, but it doesn't seem as though any of them even *saw* as much as a single ep! That should shortly be corrected, and if the restructuring takes place on the scale that I think it will, some of these very people could be in a position to take favourable impressions of certain defunct H-B shows and actually *do* something about it. I don't want to raise false hopes or anything - I'm just thinking aloud. The fact remains that WBN will shortly be doing afternoon kidvid along the lines of "The Disney Afternoon", and can't really pad the sched out with "old favourites" such as reruns of "Animaniacs" and PATB ad infinitum. Developing a series is extremely expensive, and the Turner merger is about to hand them a viable one virtually on a platter - and oozing potential for future episodes at that. Warners is rather weak in the ac/adv inventory at the moment, with only Supes and BTAS reruns to stack up against ANIMX, PATB, Tiny Toons, Looney Tunes/Merry Melodies, Road Rovers and so forth. Comedy's always been a staple of the afternoon diet (witness most of the DA lineup for years), but surprises like BTAS spurred them on to create Supes, and I'm sure they can have hardly missed the impact of non-human ac/adv in Mouse's "Gargoyles". Put yourselves in the execs' shoes over there. They basically inherit a show that's a high-quality shoot from frame one, with all the expensive development work done, an established fan-following, ex-Kats staffers already on the payroll, and the necessity to feed an ever-growing market. A show like that with only 23 eps in the can, and with so many different places to still go within the format? They'd have to be stupid *not* to run with it. Also, with great thanks to someone hiding behind the skirting boards, I read a memo which seems to indicate that H-B's dissolution is a fait accomplis (they reel off the properties that the Ted will bring to the resulting company, yet suspiciously leave out any mention of Hanna-Barbera). My favourite piece from within the entire tract reads as though some PR guy is trying to sugar-coat the fact that the Tedster's talents are best suited to an area of the resulting partnership that *doesn't* lean towards content decisions (watch a "Captain Planet" to learn why). "Creating and growing cable networks is a unique business, separate and distinct from content creation or distribution. Ted Turner created this business and knows it better than anyone else. Assembling all of our cable programming assets under Ted's leadership will ensure the continued growth and development of these assets and maximize our ability to build and deliver value for our shareholders," Whaddya think? They set themselves up for the dissolution of H-B awhile ago by creating the pseudo-offspring named "Cartoon Network Animation". Though it will all fall at least nominally under the aegis of Time-Warner, CNA seems to be the 'lifeboat' for whatever certain execs wanted to 'save', allowing the rest to suffer whatever fate befell the rest of H-B. Just an educated guess (and possibly drifting mightily towards "limited-interest" and "off-topic"!). Anyway, further updates as events warrant....(cue James Earl Jones....) "THIS IS CNN..." ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #21 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n022' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #22 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Saturday, 21 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 022 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 17:55:20 +0700 (WIB) Subject: Re: FCNL >Somebody asked me what the FCNL was: > >Fan Club NewsLetter > >It's a magazine I publish of SK bi-monthly. And I hope that I can make a HTML version of it. >Don't forget to send callie fanmail! What fans? I don't know that she has fans??? >The FCNL is on Edo's site. I will make a HTML version of it, so that maybe AJ can view the page with his text only web browser. ------------------------------ From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 20:39:27 +0700 (WIB) Subject: Re: The watcher and Katylon 5 Dr. Jake Clawson wrote: >>> If you mean "what are watcher files?"--well, you just have to wait to >>>read the story. Is it gonna be on JF's fanfic page? >BTW--I found someone for accented dialogue, and >as soon as she finishes I'll send it to Jesus/Terra/anyone who requests. Well, since that you were planning to send to who request it, so I guess that leave me out of the picture. >>> Sorry. Never seen Babylon. >> >>Well, you must definetly check it out if it's on your local TV station, >>it's like watching a five year long movie in TV! > > Haven't had the chance yet (no pun intended) Make one! >>>>BTW, is there an UK type thing in the kats planet? >>> >>> Never discussed, but there is a Britian (and Scotland) in "The Watcher >>>Files..." >> >>Ahhh..... United Kats, I think that I'm gonna make O'Neill comes from there. > > O'Neill? Are we talking about seaQuest or unreleased-fanfic characters? Er, this is a SK mailing list, so I guess that we are talking about some unreleased-fanfic character. ;) ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 13:40:32 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Edo's contagious] [ I'm keeping the .sig intact for this post only. -- Mod. ] Well, I've listened to what was left of SKIQ on a cassette tape I recorded (SKIQ was recorded over by Sonic & Knuckles music), and I don't nesecarily think the show is boring, I'm just having a big burst of Sonic fandom right now. Sonic comes and goes about every other year. :) Hence my sig! Hopefully I'll watch some SK eps this weekend. ___------__ | A.J. Freda |\__-- /\ _- | ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us |/ __ - | "Tails" on IRC //\ / \ /__ --------------------------- | o| 0|__ --_ \\____-- __ \ ___- You can run, you can fly, you can reach the (@@ __/ / /_ other side of the rainbow........ -_____--- --_ // \ \\ ___- C'mon, take a chance, cause their is no //|\__/ \\ \ circumstance that you can't handle..... \_-\_____/ \-\ // \\--\| ____// ||_ /_____\ /___\ SONIC BOOM! SONIC BOOM! SONIC BOOM! SONIC BOOM! ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 16:03:38 -0400 Subject: Re: The watcher and Katylon 5 At 08:39 PM 9/20/96 +0700, you wrote: >Dr. Jake Clawson wrote: >>>> If you mean "what are watcher files?"--well, you just have to wait to >>>>read the story. > >Is it gonna be on JF's fanfic page? I'll send it when it's done. Did you send the word-wrapped versions to him of COTS, Awake, and Reunion? Please do, if you can. I'm also planing to send them to Terra, since Jesus's site doesn't seem to be working too well. >>BTW--I found someone for accented dialogue, and >>as soon as she finishes I'll send it to Jesus/Terra/anyone who requests. > >Well, since that you were planning to send to who request it, so I guess >that leave me out of the picture. Huh? Do you want a copy? Just say so. >Er, this is a SK mailing list, so I guess that we are talking about some >unreleased-fanfic character. ;) > BTW, how close is your never-ending fanfic (it seems) from being finished? Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 18:05:09 -0700 Subject: Dr. Konway Needs To Find A Cure For This tED Virus ! Pageing Dr. Konway, Pageing Dr. Konway We Have A Few People Here Ya Need To Cure, They Have A tED Virus Real Bad ! If The Good Doctor Can't Cure 'Em Then I'll Take Some Drastic Measures ! - OKAY - By Popular Demand Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca Presents A Song Parody About bILL gATES And tED tURNER Called 'bILL & tED' Sung To The Tune Of The Pinky & The Brain Theme Song ! - This Is A Possible Cure For The tED Virus ! - (This Song In No Way Is Not A Insult To Lab Mice Who Try To Take Over The World ! Sorry Guys !) bILL & tED (Copyright 1996 By : Star Streak Studios) tED : Gee bILL, What Do You Want To Do Tonight ? bILL : The Same Thing We Do Every Night tED, Try To Take Over The World ! Yes, It's bILLy & tED, Yes bILLy & tED ! We Want Them Both Dead, Yes bILLy & tED ! They're Not Very Nice, Their Brains Have Been Spliced ! Yes, It's bILLy, bILLy & tED, tED, tED, tED, tED, tED, tED, tED ! Before The Night Is Done, They're Plan Will Be Unfurled, By The Dawning Of The Sun They'll Take Over The World ! Yes, It's bILLy & tED, Yes bILLy & tED ! They Both Have Emty Heads, Yes bILLy & tED ! To Prove Their Worth, They'll Overthrow The Earth ! Yes, It's bILLy, bILLy & tED, tED, tED, tED, tED, tED, tED, tED ! - NARF ! - OKAY, Do You Sill Have The tED Virus ? If You Do I Can Come Up With More Parody Songs To Post Here ! (Or Reread This One !) Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ Please Post This To The List, I Know It's Off Topic, But It's A Great Song ! Admiral Pinky : NARF ! (Laughter) What Am I Doing Here ? (Laughter) NARF ! - --------------------------------------------------- SWAT Kats : The Radical Squadron : Kode Version 1.0 CR/CT8 A++ D+ M++ P++ T W RLAT a t C++dw d++ e* f h i+++wk p* sm Zm http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm - - OR - http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers ------------------------------ From: "Raphael" Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:27:42 +0000 Subject: Re: My message to the list > Like I said, you'll have to read the story (or watch "Highlander: The > Series") It's almost ready, BTW--I found someone for accented dialogue, and > as soon as she finishes I'll send it to Jesus/Terra/anyone who requests. Me! Me! I always enjoy reading your stories, DJ! Erin *******************istr2198@fox.nstn.ca*********************************** "We're touched, so you be touched!" ****************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: "Raphael" Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 21:51:37 +0000 Subject: Re: Dr. Konway Needs To Find A Cure For This tED Virus ! > Pageing Dr. Konway, Pageing Dr. Konway > > We Have A Few People Here Ya Need To Cure, > They Have A tED Virus Real Bad ! > > If The Good Doctor Can't Cure 'Em Then I'll > Take Some Drastic Measures ! Chris, if you're still working on the Wahh on Atlanta sequel, maybe you should include a segment where some of the Kat fans come down with the "tED" virus and the rest try to save them. (and it turns out to be a ploy by tED to distract us so we forget about the show!) Erin *******************istr2198@fox.nstn.ca*********************************** "We're touched, so you be touched!" ****************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: chance Date: Fri, 20 Sep 1996 20:06:43 -0700 Subject: Re: Uh oh At 08:43 PM 9/19/96 -0400, DJ Clawson wrote: >Anyway, I'd become familiar with his answering machine message. It was a >female voice, saying something like, "Answering Services for : Davis Doi." >That was it. Yup. Victoria McCollum. A very nice woman who's now thoroughly sick of talking to fans, though she'll be the last to admit it. I like her. She had quite a rough ride after Kats was canned. > Anyway, I called and this time got a message actually by *him* that went >like this : "Hi! This is Davis! Please leave a message because I'm too busy >staring out my window." (or something to that effect) > I don't know if this is some kind of sign that he doesn't have any work >to do, which is a *bad* sign. Oh well. Well, not really. Their "Jonny" stuff is in Post, and as any producer will tell you, it's a helluva lot of work. Davis is cool. He'll call you back. (I *do* expect that there'll be layoffs announced soon - again - but people like Davis and Lance are in short supply, and won't likely be among them. I expect the swath will be cut through duplicate management levels and the like - something that could've occurred during the regime of Ted with little consequence, save perhaps fewer runs on the Aspirin bottle and an extra couple of mil in the "Kitty"...) ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #22 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n023' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #23 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Sunday, 22 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 023 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 19:59:59 +0700 (WIB) Subject: Re: The watcher and Katylon 5 >At 08:39 PM 9/20/96 +0700, you wrote: >>Dr. Jake Clawson wrote: >>>>> If you mean "what are watcher files?"--well, you just have to wait to >>>>>read the story. >> >>Is it gonna be on JF's fanfic page? > > I'll send it when it's done. Did you send the word-wrapped versions to >him of COTS, Awake, and Reunion? No, I thought that you already did? >Please do, if you can. I'm also planing to >send them to Terra, since Jesus's site doesn't seem to be working too well. Well, just send them to Terra. >>>BTW--I found someone for accented dialogue, and >>>as soon as she finishes I'll send it to Jesus/Terra/anyone who requests. >> >>Well, since that you were planning to send to who request it, so I guess >>that leave me out of the picture. > >Huh? Do you want a copy? Just say so. Nope, like just what I've said before, it leaves me out of the picture. >>Er, this is a SK mailing list, so I guess that we are talking about some >>unreleased-fanfic character. ;) > >BTW, how close is your never-ending fanfic (it seems) from being finished? It getting worse! SWAT Kats Plus just got started in my head! And I haven't even finished my first fanfic story! ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 06:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Kattoos... Here's a stray thought for you Katfans (and fanfic writers) out there: None of the Kats in the SK series, to the best of my knowledge, have been tattooed... tho the tough guys could easily have them done. Of course, this raises a furgonomics (katgonomics?) question as to *how* something like this would be done. If it were done on the skin, the fur would likely cover it up very quickly. If fur dye were added, that would also run out after a while, and the tattoo (kattoo?) would fade. Any thoughts? - -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================== "T-Bone, if you drown... I'm gonna kill you!" -- Razor ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 15:22:04 -0400 Subject: Re: The watcher and Katylon 5 >> I'll send it when it's done. Did you send the word-wrapped versions to >>him of COTS, Awake, and Reunion? > >No, I thought that you already did? I don't have any word-wrapped copies; you never sent them to me. All of mine need word wrapping. Could you send me/Jesus the word wrapped ones? Thanks. >>BTW, how close is your never-ending fanfic (it seems) from being finished? > >It getting worse! SWAT Kats Plus just got started in my head! And I haven't >even finished my first fanfic story! Keep trying! I need some fanfic from *somebody*, BAD! Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 15:24:32 -0400 Subject: Re: Kattoos... At 06:01 AM 9/21/96 -0700, you wrote: >Here's a stray thought for you Katfans (and fanfic writers) out there: > >None of the Kats in the SK series, to the best of my knowledge, have >been tattooed... tho the tough guys could easily have them done. Of >course, this raises a furgonomics (katgonomics?) question as to *how* >something like this would be done. If it were done on the skin, the >fur would likely cover it up very quickly. If fur dye were added, that >would also run out after a while, and the tattoo (kattoo?) would fade. > >Any thoughts? In "The Watcher Files of Chance Furlong" fanfic (coming soon!) Chance *does* get a tatoo (a watcher tatoo--but that explanation'll have to wait). First they shave the fur and apply it. The fur takes over a week to grow back, so it gives time for the other characters in the story (Jake and Angus, mainly) to notice it. Once the fur is grown back, I assume that the layer is pretty light (and so's his fur color) so it's still visible, you just have to look for it. Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 17:50:28 -0700 Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Edo's contagious] >> You took the words outta my mouth! I'm saying that times two! > >Oh yeah? I'm saying what you're saying plus infinity and one half!! :) Times two, foolish mortal!!! >> I've got an excuse! Two of 'em! I was near Edo trying to show him what he's >> throwing away, and the anti-SK extremist has been trying to brainwash me, >> and she usually has great success. I CAN'T WIN!!!!! > > She is the Dark Side!!! She's my shrink so can it! >BAD JUJU!!!! BAD JUJU!!!! Umm try to brainwash her back.. I'd have to just plain brainwash her. She was always the unofficial anti-SK Extremist! > uhh act crazy(ier??) and scare her. I've known hor for over elevin years, so I think I CAN'T frighten her in the least. >I know.. this takes some cunning.. but pretend that you are brain >washed.. I need to know by who! I need a story a mile long to get anywhere in the first place, then I need the story to be so long that is goes to the sun and back to blow her away! >when she doesn't expect it.. get her in front of the TV (before she >comes over or something.. slip in your SK ep tape) and say: >"BWAHAHAHAHAHA!" > Then grab her, do a half nelson (full if you want) and press play!! And >hold her for the whole ep.. I don't have THAT kind of ENDURANCE!!! She's got nails as sharp as a kat would have, and yes, her claws HAVE drawn blood before!! Try again. Mabye I could make a story that at first seems to be batman, but then does some kinda kats thing that totally changes the story. Mabye I could dub one of my fanfics and at the end... no. She sees my scemes a mile ahead of when I put it into effect. What was funny was that she thought that Pumadyne was something spellt backwards. >(do not try this if victim is so much stronger than you she/he can >squish you with his/her pinky finger..) She can wrap anyone around her little finger! Try again! :( I swear I'm stuck. I even dubbed Cry Turmoil into a batman fanfic, and she said she liked the Batman story, but said that the SK theme sucked. >> Advice to AJ and anyone else feeling like they might start to think the >> show's dull: Watch lots and lots of SK eps.. NOW! THIS IS AN ORDER! > >Good thing AJ says he'd like to do some art for the e-comic I'm doing.. =) I WANNA SEE! I may have the tED virus the worst out of anyone right now, but I'm still crazed over the show!! >Should I make a new script, use one of Lance Falk's or use another >fanfic?. A new one! That way, I'd get to see something new! >BTW, Ryan are you letting me use your Robyn Alexander thing to >make a Robyn Alexander Dimension.. (guess what happens) Robyn Alexander is a REAL person... friend to Kristin... (HEY! That's an idea! Get all Kristin's friends into liking SK!!) You can use her name. It isn't copywrighted or anything. And the theme... anything (within reason) to help others. (i.e. SURE!) >> Look what I found on the web! >> Name: Ted Turner >> E-mail: ted.turner@turner.com (click to send e-mail) > >heh heh heh... heh heh heh.. I had a cow, by the name of Bullet, kiss tED on the nose! why? because the cow looked JUST like him! ____________________________________________________________________________ Esteban (Eh STAY bon) "friends to the anti-SK Extremist" Kelley The unofficial SWAT Kat Extremist, Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ____________________________________________________________________________ tED' tURNOVOR's E-mail: ted.turner@turner.com (click to send e-mail) ------------------------------ From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 06:23:29 +0700 (WIB) Subject: Enforcer, swims? Can an Enforcer swims? We know from "Mutation City" that Chance can't swims, I thought that pilots were given some sort of training on how to swim before they become pilots? ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Sat, 21 Sep 1996 22:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: swimming kats Edo queries: > Can an Enforcer swims? We know from "Mutation City" that Chance can't > swims, I thought that pilots were given some sort of training on how to > swim before they become pilots? Well, lessee... Jake's definitely a strong swimmer, and Commander Feral and his niece seem to possess *some* sort of swimming ability (they haven't drowned when they've been thrown into water), so it stands to reason that perhaps the Enforcers must include swimming as part of their training. Still, that wouldn't explain why *Chance* can't swim, unless he managed to marginally pass the Enforcers' swimming tests or lied about his ability to swim when he joined. Anyone want to add to this? - -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================== "T-Bone, if you drown... I'm gonna kill you!" -- Razor ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #23 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n024' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #24 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Monday, 23 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 024 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 22:34:30 +0700 (WIB) Subject: Re: swimming kats >Edo queries: >>Can an Enforcer swims? > >Well, lessee... Jake's definitely a strong swimmer, and Commander Feral >and his niece seem to possess *some* sort of swimming ability (they >haven't drowned when they've been thrown into water), so it stands to >reason that perhaps the Enforcers must include swimming as part of >their training. Or they once learn on how to swim before they join the Enforcers. Feral and Felina maybe once swim together while Felina was a kitten, and maybe Jake once swims with his brothers, sisters and cousins. (Don't know why I always think that Jake has a big family, I just got the impression that he got a big family) >Still, that wouldn't explain why *Chance* can't swim, If he can't swim, I understand (a lot of people don't admit that they can't swim), but he can't swim and managed become part of the Enforcer? >unless he managed to marginally pass the Enforcers' swimming tests or >lied about his ability to swim when he joined. Well, maybe he got some help on becoming an Enforcer. ------------------------------ From: chance Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 06:41:08 -0700 Subject: Re: swimming kats At 10:22 PM 9/21/96 -0700, Dana Uehara wrote: >Well, lessee... Jake's definitely a strong swimmer, and Commander Feral >and his niece seem to possess *some* sort of swimming ability (they >haven't drowned when they've been thrown into water), so it stands to >reason that perhaps the Enforcers must include swimming as part of >their training. Still, that wouldn't explain why *Chance* can't swim, >unless he managed to marginally pass the Enforcers' swimming tests or >lied about his ability to swim when he joined. > >Anyone want to add to this? Yep. As far as I know, when they do the "downed jet" escape drill, all they're taught is how to escape the cockpit (partially or fully submerged), and how to use the survival gear (inflatable vests, beacons, survival rafts and so forth). I don't think that traditional swimming enters into it, so long as the above requirements are satisfied. Many pilots during the Second World War and Korea couldn't swim either. ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 12:02:12 -0400 Subject: Kats swimming All right, so maybe I was being flippant when I said that kats don't like water. To the best of my knowledge, it is only navy pilots who are given "Water-based" training. As for Enforcers learning swimming, it is unlikely. T-Bone couldn't swim even a little; hard to imagine he could have faked his way through the training. But just like with humans, some kats learn to swim, and others don't. The Ferals simply learned when they were young. I suppose it depends on how one is brought up. I learned to swim, because of a mother who had a fear of drowning and insisted that all of her children be strong swimmers. Of the Newfoundland fishermen, more than 80% do not know how to swim. They do not waste time learning, as the water there is so cold, they will die quickly if they fall in, and swimming will not help them. Am I rambling again? Where's my prune juice? - ----- Dr. Samuel Konway Senior Rambling Old Chemist Avid Therapeutics Philadelphia, PA flogistn@vivanet.com ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 12:09:06 -0400 Subject: Chris's tED Virus What I need to do is cure this bizarre typing habit of yours! Sadly, antiviral research is a slow process, and before I can even be pointed in the right direction for a cure, many more worthwhile and entertaining programs will be cancelled. An even larger number of worthless, intellect-insulting programs will pop up and persist. So I shall work on it, but it is far too late for today's good programming. Our only hope is to try to save some future show that has not yet been conceived. - ---- Dr. Samuel Konway Senior That Bastard Cancelled "The Lazarus Man" Too Avid Therapeutics Philadelphia, PA flogistn@netaxs.com ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 10:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [none] Actually, I've been inclined to think the opposite -- that he was either an only child (only kat) or an orphan. There's never been any mention of either Chance or Jake's relatives in the series, so this is up for debate (or the fanfic writers). A residual thought here: cats and kittens tend to snuggle up against each other when they're sleeping, likely for warmth. Can you imagine Kats doing the same, especially during the winter? (And yes, I know this behavior isn't limited to felines...) Hrm. Seems like my mind is rambling again. Methinks I could use a Katnap right about now... ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 14:31:54 -0400 Subject: Re: Siblings At 10:14 AM 9/22/96 -0700, you wrote: >Actually, I've been inclined to think the opposite -- that he was either >an only child (only kat) or an orphan. There's never been any mention >of either Chance or Jake's relatives in the series, so this is up for >debate (or the fanfic writers). In *my* fanfiction: You will notice (if anyone bothers to real all of it, a feat as that is by itself) that in my fanfic, no matter what stance I take on Jake or Chance's parents (it varies from story to story) they will never have any brothers or sisters. In one I don't plan on writing anytime soon but have clearly thought out, Jake does have a cousin, who has a son named Brian who's very attached to Jake and calls him "Uncle Jake." But aside from that, nothing else. In other fanfiction: This seems to be the case, except in Terra's "Rememberances and Recollections" where Jake has a sister (older/younger unknown) who is raped and murdered by their father while he was young (middle/high school age). Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #24 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n025' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #25 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Tuesday, 24 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 025 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Tom Cimafranca Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 07:19:23 -0700 Subject: This Weeks Post From : You Know Who Okay, This Will Be My Only Post This Week, I Will Respond To It Over The Next Few Days, But Come Friday Sept 27th Thruogh Sunday September 29th, I Will Not Be Home, I Will Be At STAR CON (The Sci-Fi / Fantasy Convetion Here In Colorado) Over The Weekend Comming Up, (So Far This Is Off Topic, Wait For It) I'm Thinking Of Finding SWAT Kats Stuff While I'm There, Anyone Need Somthing They're Missing For Their Collection, Just Send Me A List And I'll See If I Can Find It For You ! (Keep Your List Short, Cause I'm Low On Funds =( SIGH !) However, Because I Live Real Close To A K-Mart I Have A Reliable Sourse Of T-Bone & Razor Figures That I've Seen There On The Many Times I've Been There ! (YEA !) So I Can Pick Those Up At Anytime, So Ask Fur Them ! The Game I'm Makeing Is Takeing Longer Than I Thought, (Damn Windows !) So Don't Hold Your Breath Fur It ! While Klik & Play Is A Real Kewl Game Making Program, Windows 3.1 Has Limitations As Far As Resourses And Memory, Graphics, Colors, Etc, Etc, Etc ! The War On Atlanta : The Sequel Has Reached The End Of Act One, So Far No Comments About How Good Or Bad It Is, Will Someone Please Inform Me If I Did Write Yourself Very Off Model, Because I Never Met Any Of You F2F ! Other News, Someone I Talked To Said This About The Time - Warner/tURNER Merge : 'Warner May Take Everything H-B Has And Package It All For Syndication !' I Think This Is Good News, I Think, I'm Not To Shure If It's Good ? Well, That's The Post Fur This Week, From Now On I'll Do Just One Big, Huge Post A Week, And Respond To Questions About The Post, Answers That I Have, Etc ! As Always - Chris T.(bone) Cimafranca ^^^^ Don't Have Anything Punny To Put Here This Time ! This Sig Has A Head Kold This Time ! - NARF - ! - --------------------------------------------------- SWAT Kats : The Radical Squadron : Kode Version 1.0 CR/CT8 A++ D+ M++ P++ T W RLAT a t C++dw d++ e* f h i+++wk p* sm Zm http://www.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm - - OR - http://net.indra.com/~narf/swatkats.htm Dr. Shepherd : 'Maybe I Should Of Used Kats Instead ?' - Road Rovers ------------------------------ From: matmilam@juno.com (Matthew B Milam) Date: Mon, 23 Sep 1996 22:20:03 EDT Subject: Web Page Down! The Web page at; http://members.aol.com/matmilam is now down and will not come back...I need someone to help me put this page up somewhere else. __________________________________________________________ Matthew Milam (matmilam@juno.com) ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #25 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n026' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #26 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Thursday, 26 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 026 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ed Rudnicki Date: Wed, 25 Sep 96 14:12:13 EDT Subject: [none] >In other news, I caught an episode of Gargoyles last Saturday and noticed >that at least part of the animation was done by Hanho Heung-Up (possibly >inbetweener-type work). If the Kats had been fully animated by Mook, >with some of the extra work sent out to HHU, who knows what the series >might have been like? More like . The "new" Gargoyles by HHU is sadly lacking in quality vis a vis the old. Another change is that the animation is produced by Nelvana rather than WDTVA. In the third ep Lexington was _seriously_ off-color; that is, they used the wrong basic colors for him. That sort of error shouldn't happen. Thank goodness for Mook's work on SK. Ed Yep, I'm back :) ------------------------------ From: Ed Rudnicki Date: Wed, 25 Sep 96 14:15:42 EDT Subject: Re: Kats, Cats, felines... Michael J. Rider: > There are more ways a cat marks territory than just scratching >trees (couches, desks, curtains). Of course they would be impractical in >any advanced civilization. Are fences and national borders any less a way Made me wonder if the "face rubbing" that cats use as one way to mark territory/possessions would have evolved into a form of greeting or display of affection. Obviously another way in which male cats mark territory would probably be verboten :) Ed ------------------------------ From: Ed Rudnicki Date: Wed, 25 Sep 96 14:43:02 EDT Subject: Re: Songs >At 04:31 PM 09/17/96 -0500, you wrote: >>Are there any songs by any bands you've heard out there that remind you of >>the 'Kats or any eps? This seems to be a popular topic on a lot of my other >>groups, and frankly, we've never discussed it as long as I've been part of >>these group(s) and I'm curious to know... > >How 'bout "Cat Scratch Fever" by Ted Nugent! > >"I Can't Drive Fifty-five" while Razor's piloting the Cyclotron. > >And of course, "Bad to the (T)Bone"! Because of that Ferrari chase scene in "The Hidden", the song "On Your Feet" by Shok Paris works for me in this regard. It's got the same kind of energy that the "action" music in SK has. Needless to say I _never_ play it while driving.... :) Ed ------------------------------ From: "Raphael" Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 19:34:58 +0000 Subject: Re: Siblings > In other fanfiction: > This seems to be the case, except in Terra's "Rememberances and > Recollections" where Jake has a sister (older/younger unknown) who is raped > and murdered by their father while he was young (middle/high school age). I believe Chance has a sister in Ryan's "Midnight Magic" series. And, DJ, you're stories are NEVER difficult to read - difficult to stop reading, maybe, but never difficult to read. Erin *******************istr2198@fox.nstn.ca*********************************** "This don't be one of my better days, I guarantee." ****************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:54:21 -0600 Subject: Re: Kats, Cats, felines... At 02:15 PM 9/25/96 EDT, Ed Rudnicki wrote: >Made me wonder if the "face rubbing" that cats use as one way to >mark territory/possessions would have evolved into a form of >greeting or display of affection. Obviously another way in which >male cats mark territory would probably be verboten :) You're right. Cats do use face rubbing to mark territory; they claim people as part of their territory this way. No@h Spro@t "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:01:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Cat (and Kat) stuff Looks like crossovers between house cats (Felis domesticus) and Kats have more or less been the main topic of discussion on the list lately (not that it's a bad thing, as it's certainly more than on topic). Here's one piece of feline behavior that I've seen in house cats, which is that if they're hungry they not only start meowing at you for food, but will also sometimes purr. I think we more or less covered the absence of purring in SK in a few earlier posts, but can you imagine adult Kats meowing to be fed? Kittens would be easy, of course. ;-) (Incidentally, the closest I think I ever heard to a meow in the series was in "Destructive Nature," when Razor attacks Doctor Viper on the roof of Megakat Towers.) And one comment about purring, btw... I either read or heard somewhere that cats will purr when they want attention, meaning that a purring cat doesn't necessarily mean that it's contented (cats will sometimes purr if they're in extreme pain). Any thoughts? (BTW, there was no listmail that I know of that was sent yesterday, so those of you on the digest needn't be alarmed. ;-) - -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@netcom.com) ================== "T-Bone, if you drown... I'm gonna kill you!" -- Razor ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 18:23:15 -0700 Subject: Re: Siblings >> In other fanfiction: >> This seems to be the case, except in Terra's "Rememberances and >> Recollections" where Jake has a sister (older/younger unknown) who is raped >> and murdered by their father while he was young (middle/high school age). > > I believe Chance has a sister in Ryan's "Midnight Magic" series. Technically, but not really. When I finish making the fanfic easier to read (and it dosn't take up a third of people's fanfic pages), this'll be explained. >And, DJ, you're stories are NEVER difficult to read - difficult to >stop reading, maybe, but never difficult to read. You wanna difficult story to read? Check out my first fanfic that I made! Now THAT'S hard to read! >"This don't be one of my better days, I guarantee." My better days are behind me :( ____________________________________________________________________________ Esteban (Eh STAY bon) "friends to the anti-SK Extremist" Kelley The unofficial SK Extremist(with T.E.D. virus), Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan. http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ____________________________________________________________________________ tED' tURNOVOR's E-mail: ted.turner@turner.com ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 19:51:28 -0600 Subject: SWAT Kats' Motorcycle Is there a special name the SWAT Kats used for their motorcycle? No@h Spro@t "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 22:41:20 -0400 Subject: Re: >Thank goodness for Mook's work on SK. You said it! Some of Hanho isn't what I'd even dare to label as *good*, though "Cry Turmoil" was definitely his best work on the series (if anyone tries to argue for "Mutation City" I'll scream my head off--even Davis admitted that episode was rushed). Two in particular that I hated, animation wise: the crystal one (haven't mentioned it in so long I don't remember the name) and "Enter the Madkat". The Tremblays planned more Madkat, but when they saw the "roundness" (or bubbly, as I like to put it) of it they hated it. Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy E-mail me for copies of "The Watcher Files of Chance Furlong" SK/Highlander-spoof fanfiction, due out soon. - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 22:43:29 -0400 Subject: Re: Cat (and Kat) stuff >I either read or heard somewhere >that cats will purr when they want attention, meaning that a purring >cat doesn't necessarily mean that it's contented (cats will sometimes >purr if they're in extreme pain). I imagine that the younger kats--toddler kittens, beneath speaking age--probably purr more often then adults, for no other reason than it seems to fit. Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) ------------------------------ From: mweb Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 23:28:19 -0400 Subject: Re: Jake's relatives At 10:14 AM 09/22/96 -0700, Dana telepathically inscribed: >Actually, I've been inclined to think the opposite -- that he was either >an only child (only kat) or an orphan. There's never been any mention >of either Chance or Jake's relatives in the series, so this is up for >debate (or the fanfic writers). Well, we know for sure that Jake & Chance didn't grow up together. In "Bright & Shiny Future", Chance tells Jake that "this is where I grew up" when they were stopped at the newstand. I'd imagine that since Chance was reading "Kat Kommandoes", he was already old enough to read. So, we can figure Chance's age before he met Jake (if they in fact met before joining the Enforcers). He must have lived in that neighborhood until he was at least 8 or 9 years old (in Terran years). ____________________________________________________ mweb@mich.com aka "Purrcy" http://www.mich.com/~mweb ------------------------------ From: mweb Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 23:30:02 -0400 Subject: Re: SWAT Kats' Motorcycle At 07:51 PM 09/25/96 -0600, HD wrote: >Is there a special name the SWAT Kats used for their motorcycle? You talking about the Cyclotron? Hmm.. Actually, the Secret Files of the SK list it as a "missile"... ____________________________________________________ mweb@mich.com aka "Purrcy" http://www.mich.com/~mweb ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #26 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n027' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #27 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Friday, 27 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 027 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1996 23:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats' Motorcycle H@rd Drive asks: Is there a special name the SWAT Kats used for their motorcycle? and mweb answers: You talking about the Cyclotron? Actually, I think there are at least *two* different cycles the Kats have used -- the Cyclotron, which can carry one or two passengers at a time (likely varying according to the show's needs), and the Sandkat (used in "Chaos In Crystal" for desert travel). A side comment about the cyclotron: while it's launched from under the Turbokat, it has a little ski-like spring that launches it back into the jet (cf. "The Giant Bacteria") if there's no ramp handy nearby... ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:15:26 +0800 Subject: Re: SWAT Kats' Motorcycle Dana Uehara wrote: > Actually, I think there are at least *two* different cycles the Kats > have used -- the Cyclotron, which can carry one or two passengers at a > time (likely varying according to the show's needs), and the Sandkat > (used in "Chaos In Crystal" for desert travel). My opinion is that the Cyclotron is supposed to be a compact missle-motorcycle that has a telescopic "spine" which extends to carry 1 or 2 passengers. Every time the SWAT Kats use the Cyclotron, their seats sort of carry them to the Cyclotron like an elevator. > A side comment about the cyclotron: while it's launched from under > the Turbokat, it has a little ski-like spring that launches it back > into the jet (cf. "The Giant Bacteria") if there's no ramp handy > nearby... You've noticed that too? I'm glad someone actually saw it. ;-D However, the animation sort of overlapped the cel containing the Cyclotron so I'm glad it happened fast. Nobody will notice bad animation if it's fast. Later! ************JULIAN HO < julianho@singnet.com.sg >************ "... I, Am That Is, Take On My Might Role..." - Part of Rhyme behind the Tapestry in the Great Hall, "Redwall" by Brian Jacques Coming soon, my own web page! (Yeah! It seems like forever, doesn't it?!) ------------------------------ From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 21:09:36 +0700 (WIB) Subject: [none] Subject: Re: Siblings Erin wrote: > I believe Chance has a sister in Ryan's "Midnight Magic" series. > >And, DJ, you're stories are NEVER difficult to read - difficult to >stop reading, maybe, but never difficult to read. Cause if I do stop, I will probably forgot which part of the story that I had already read. You stories are big, but they are good, DJ, please do write a lot of them. Subject: Kris Clawson, do you remember? I'm quite suprise that nobody here mention Melissa's fanfic character is Jake's niece in her SK fanfic story. Subject: Re: Kat stuff, various (listmail replies) > [Kats] probably lick their wounds too although I really can't > picture Jake and Chance giving each other tongue baths! Er, the kats already got a good plumbing system, besides licking yourself for having a bath isn't very practical if you're anthromorphic, why not use the shower? >I'd say that's a bit extreme, too... but licking wounds isn't something >just limited to Kats. I do it all the time, when ever my cats scratch me. >Saliva helps a bit as an emergency painkiller, >such as if you cut your finger. Yeah, although that it is still hurts though. >Edo: BTW, in "The Wrath of Dark Kat", Dark Kat says that he gonna > destroy the new Enforcer building, if that is the new one, > where is the old one? > >I don't think we ever know about the old one because the whole scenario >is a flashback to begin with. Well, half of them anyway, I'n glad that they didn't show the whole episode as a flashback >More than likely the old Enforcer building >was either in a different part of the city (smaller office, maybe?) or >was where the new one is (the old one was torn down or remodeled, and >the Enforcers may have been temporarily displaced during that time). Or maybe that IS the new Enforcer building. The building for the newly constructed force, made from the combination of navy, army, airforces, and police. > I guess that the reason Feral hate the SWAT Kats is because > that they are doing HIS jobs. > >Not just that, but frequently they manage to succeed where the Enforcers >fail. As Molly Mange so aptly put it, "those two fighter jocks make >[Feral] look stupid at least once a week!" Yeah, it's really embarasing seeing someone else doing the jobs that you were suppose to be doing. > How does someone (re)build a TurboKat? > >Given the technology level in Megakat City plus the amount of military >salvage available to Jake and Chance, building (and rebuilding) >something like the Turbokat probably isn't very difficult -- time- >consuming, perhaps, but not difficult. Fixing an aircraft is possible , but building a whole aircraft? Do the kats throw away all of their good stuff into the junkyard? Do they ever think maybe that someone could pick it out and build a weapon out of it? >packrat: Er, does this mean cross-overs aren't allowed? packrat didn't wrote that line, it was me. >anything involving the Kats, even if you mix in anything else, >is more than on-topic. Okay, is MC. PD also included in the on-topic stuff? Subject: Re: Bad to the bone, bones for ears? >>The dead kats that the Pastmaster revives in "The Pastmaster Always Ring >>Twice" have bones for ears, the Red Lynx himself has bones for his ears., >>even the skeletons in "Caverns of Horror" have bones for ears. > > Exactly. There is the problem that the artists don't want to >show human skulls, since everybody is supposed to be a kat. Of course since that DJ mention that Dr. Sinian is probably have a very cat face, I guess that her skeleton is different from the other kats. DJ! Could you draw us a kat skeleton? >Unfortunately, >at the relatively low resolution of this show, there isn't much difference >between a Kat face and a human one if you delete the fur and the ears. Kats were designed to be as close to humans as possible. Hmmm, I wonder if Felina can be ambassador representing the kats to our world if she remove her ears and tail (so that she can look like humans)? >So they leave the ears on for skeletons. I can see the reasoning they used. Well, if they didn't got tail, they could be humans! ID$ vs When Strikes Mutilor? >>It was design to entertain the viewers, not to give them some complex plot >>that will probably take five years to finish it. The same also goes for >>"When Strikes Mutilor", only that it was given 23 minutes. > > "Mutilor" _did_ manage to fit in a more believable story in only 23 >minutes. What do you mean by "believable"? >If they managed to do it, why couldn't a big-budget film at least _try_? Ever seen a situation where the big guy who have a lot of resources got out beaten by the little guy who have only just a little resources? Subject: Re: Swat Kats World >> BTW, in "The Wrath of Dark Kat", Dark Kat says that he gonna destroy the >> new Enforcer building, if that is the new one, where is the old one? > >Perhaps it got stepped on by KatZillia the previous month? If it did, the workers in MegaKat City are sure fast by building another one in the next month. >Even if nothing happened to it, then maybe the old one was simply to >small/too old/the AC didn't work right/whatever. Well, the new one that Jake and Chance's plane crashed to is surely no small building. BTW, if the new Enforcer building was under construction, where did the guys take-off, is it the airport? If it is, military or civil? >The new one is >equipped with a runway and hangar on the roof, maybe a lack of such >facilities was a problem with the old one. The new Enforcer building seem to be very high. How high is the Enforcer building anyway? The thing look like that it would take a long time to build it. >>But Dark Kat could be working WITH somebody, somebody who has the same >>purpose just like him. > > And, as per usuall supervillian conduct, each is planning on backstabbing >the other when they're no longer useful. :-) Creeplings backstabbing Dark Kat? Hmmm.... Interesting. >> Note: Is it just me or the PumaDyne's scientist really says earthquake? > >Actually, "Earthquake" _is_ a term used by NASA for describing seismic >tremors on other planets or the Moon. They're not going to tounge-tie >themselves with "Moonquake", "Marsquake", "Europaquake", etc. Yeah, but isn't the word "earthquake" comes from "Earth" and "quake"? Of course if the word "earthquake" could means something else, I guess that the earth in earthquake isn't necesary means Earth. But the thing that I don't want to see or hear or read or feel is a terraquake, I'm a little bit affraid if that happen. >>Maybe because Manx doesn't want another aircraft named the Blue Manx cause >>trouble to the city again, it could be a bad thing for the election. > > If a plane is sucessful, and _that's_ the only thing wrong with it, >then the company that built it is not gonna let a name problem stand in >the way of a multibillion-dollar military contract. But remember, Manx is the one who give the dollars to fund for the Blue Manx. >They spent ungodly >amounts of money in R&D to build the darned thing. Give it a different >name and a different paint job and sell it to them in six months. Well, I kinda don't like on how the Blue Manx was shaped, it look kinda chubby and fat. >>Although interestingly, it has an automatic attack mode, does Razor >>programmed the mode or is it a part of the Macrobots programs? > > Dosen't look like he had time, and such things dosen't seem to be the >way the SWAT Kats operate- we've never seen the TurboKat or the >Cyclotron attack by themselves. Now if they got A.I., the guys can told them to fetch the bad guys. "TurboKat, fetch!" >On the other hand, Hackle _is_ an expert at building robots capable of >>independent operation (Just take the Metalikats, for example), The Metallikats OS are gangster. And Cybertron OS is kinda simple (but remarkable), of course if we compare Cybertron to our present robots, Cybertron is a mega long way from them. BTW, why did Hackle says that it would take years to fix Cybertron? >and the MacroBots were built on his designs. With some modifications of course. >Chances are, the original version had an "Automatic Explore >Mode", "Automatic Return-to-Ship Mode" or some such similar peaceful >program, Or maybe the "Automatic Attack mode" is a mode use incase if there is a nasty alien ready to attack the explorer. Hey, it could happen you know. :) >but PumaDyne changed it when they turned them into weapons systems. Maybe it can be voice command (the Metallikats use some sort of microphone when they are controlling the Macrobots), could it be that you can program macros to the Macrobots? "Macrobot, attack!" >>Maybe because that the Macrobots could be a failed invention, the bots were >>design for space exploration, but PumaDyne tweaked them so that it will be >>a mobile suit tank. > >The thing is, there was nothing "failed" about them. Besides being a space exploration machine. >PumaDyne built them as walking tanks. >Irregardless of what Hackle had _wanted_ them to be, >they proved that they were very *good* walking tanks. They're good as tanks, but lousy as felines. >In minutes, they >sucessfully defeated the SWAT Kats. Feral's been trying for _years_ to >build a tank or plane capable of that. But PumaDyne didn't give the Macrobots to Feral, could it be that PumaDyne was planning something else for those Macrobots? >If Molly hadn't stupidly left >the top hatch open on hers, they likely would have won, I don't think that Molly ever noticed that the top hatch was open, she was too busy with her new body. >the TurboKat couldn't even scratch their paint. Did it even had paint? >>Maybe in the original design, it could land on its four feet (to land on >>the surface of other planets) > > A good point, as an exploration unit would be intended to climb >mountains on other planets with different gravities, in far-off regions >where there is no chance of rescue in case of an accident. It's certainly >possible that the original design had jump-rockets or flight thrusters, >something that PumaDyne decided wasn't necessary in the new mission of >"walking engine of destruction". Crud, and it would make a good mecha if they do that. Imagine a sleek and fast robot feline, walking with a speed comparable to a sport car, can jump and fly far far away. They will probably make more destruction if they make it that way. >The military version is probably a lot heavier than the original, >too, with all that extra armor. Super alloy, mega alloy, or agrosite? >Even if it had the original "land on feet" mode, it might have simply been >to heavy to do it anymore. Yeah, they turn the thing into a regular Imperial Walker. Subject: Re: Jake's relatives Matt wrote: >Well, we know for sure that Jake & Chance didn't grow up together. In >"Bright & Shiny Future", Chance tells Jake that "this is where I grew up" >when they were stopped at the newstand. I'd imagine that since Chance was >reading "Kat Kommandoes", he was already old enough to read. Er, when I was young, when I read comics, I usualy don't *read* them, I just look at the pictures and ask my father to read them for me. BTW, comics seem to be seen a lot in SWAT Kats, from the comic that was read by the guards of MegaKat Biochemical to PumaDyne's guard. It is kinda ironic to think that there is no SWAT Kats comic in publishing. >So, we can >figure Chance's age before he met Jake (if they in fact met before joining >the Enforcers). He must have lived in that neighborhood until he was at >least 8 or 9 years old (in Terran years). Well, comparing theim to human child. Since that 9 Terran years in the kats world could be 18 Kats years there. Subject: Re: UK type thing in the kats world? >>BTW, is there an UK type thing in the kats planet? > >Since Megakat City is very much like an American society, >you can't JUST consider "Is there a UK?" UK as in United Kats? >There's other very big cultural influences that >makes America so unique from any other former British colony. All (almost) of the world cultures got mixed in the USA. >Is there a Germany? Hope so, I always wanted to hear kats with a german accent. >Is there an Ireland? Well, the Animato article says that mayor Manx has a little bit of an Irish accent. >Is there a France, or Nigeria, or Italy, or >Sweden, or Mexico, or Canada, There have to be one! The Tremblay Bros are canadian, so I guess that they should make the kats version of Canada. >or Cuba, or Hungary, or Haiti, or Poland, or >Slovakia, or India, or Korea, or the Philippines...I'll stop. Please, do go on. I want to know if there is a place name Kucing in the kats world. >Every >cultural influence is so interlocked that it would only make sense to >describe Katworld as an almost total clone of earth. There is maps in a couple of the episodes, there is a map of MegaKat bay in "When Strikes Mutilor". >Take England for >example. The way England is, it can't exist quite the way it is without a >history involving Wales, Normandy, Denmark, Ireland, and many other smaller >examples. Where in the world is Megalith City? Is it in the same place as the MegaKat we know or is it somewhere else? >And none of those include how individuals had had an influence >on history. Ahhh... Ted Turner? Subject: Re: SWAT Kats' Motorcycle >At 07:51 PM 09/25/96 -0600, HD wrote: >>Is there a special name the SWAT Kats used for their motorcycle? At 3:30 AM 9/26/96, mweb wrote: >You talking about the Cyclotron? > >Hmm.. Actually, the Secret Files of the SK list it as a "missile"... Well, it was fired from the TurboKat, and it did have a rocket booster in its back before the thing was jettison. Although that I wonder if the guys are crazy enough to ride a missile? Subject: Re: SWAT Kats' Motorcycle (Cyclotron) >H@rd Drive asks: > Is there a special name the SWAT Kats used for their motorcycle? > >and mweb answers: > You talking about the Cyclotron? > >Actually, I think there are at least *two* different cycles the Kats >have used -- the Cyclotron, which can carry one or two passengers at a >time (likely varying according to the show's needs), The question is, how do they know to choose which Cyclotron to carry? >and the Sandkat (used in "Chaos In Crystal" for desert travel). And I think that Lance Falk was planning to write in the SnowKat into "Cold War". >A side comment about the cyclotron: while it's launched from under >the Turbokat, it has a little ski-like spring that launches it back >into the jet (cf. "The Giant Bacteria") Ala Speed Racer, just like what Melissa said to me on IRC. >if there's no ramp handy nearby... Well, the ramp thing on "Razor's Edge" is just a thing that Razor have to run into, I think that the standard jump device is that thing you mention before. ------------------------------ From: Ed Rudnicki Date: Thu, 26 Sep 96 12:21:09 EDT Subject: Re: Kattoos... >Here's a stray thought for you Katfans (and fanfic writers) out there: > >None of the Kats in the SK series, to the best of my knowledge, have >been tattooed... tho the tough guys could easily have them done. Of >course, this raises a furgonomics (katgonomics?) question as to *how* >something like this would be done. If it were done on the skin, the >fur would likely cover it up very quickly. If fur dye were added, that >would also run out after a while, and the tattoo (kattoo?) would fade. > >Any thoughts? Perhaps they might develop a process to insert a long-lasting dye in the hair follicles themselves, such that the actual color of each hair is changed, to produce a pattern _from_ the actual fur, rather than simply on it. This would be time-consuming, of course, being done one hair at a time, but not much more so than electrolysis in humans. The catch of course is to have the dyed follicle retain the dye for life. Perhaps the chemistry of the follicle could be changed to achieve the same effect. In any case, this avoids the problem of the two possibilities that are mentioned above, though the patterm would not be as sharp as a skin tattoo. Ed ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:33:38 -0400 Subject: Re: Jake's relatives Matt wrote: >In "Bright & Shiny Future", Chance tells Jake that "this is where I grew up" >when they were stopped at the newstand. I'd imagine that since Chance was >reading "Kat Kommandoes", he was already old enough to read. So, we can >figure Chance's age before he met Jake (if they in fact met before joining >the Enforcers). He must have lived in that neighborhood until he was at >least 8 or 9 years old (in Terran years). Again, it's argueable. That episode did give us insites, but nothing specific. My stories state that Chance moved from the city to the suburbs and met Jake somewhere around 10-12 yrs old, because Jake/Chance kiddie scenes are so much fun to do (there's one in "Awakenings" and a whole story based off some events in their childhood). Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy E-mail me for copies of "The Watcher Files of Chance Furlong" SK/Highlander-spoof fanfiction, due out soon. - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Zax Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 17:58:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Songs On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, Ed Rudnicki wrote: > Because of that Ferrari chase scene in "The Hidden", the song "On > Your Feet" by Shok Paris works for me in this regard. It's got the > same kind of energy that the "action" music in SK has. Needless to > say I _never_ play it while driving.... :) You forgot : "Stray Cats". "Summer in the City" (Cool cat, looking for a Kitty) "I fought the law". (Swat Kat themselves) "Life in the fast lane" (the Metalicats on one of their rampages) ------------------------------ From: Ed Rudnicki Date: Thu, 26 Sep 96 16:31:51 EDT Subject: Re: Uh oh >I called Davis Doi (ex-producer of SKs, currently producer of JQ) up today >to see how he's doing. After all, his episodes (the ones made by the kat >team) for JQ have never aired, and JQ is probably an official bomb by now, Is JQ doing that badly? Ed ever hopeful :) ------------------------------ From: mweb Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:16:57 -0400 Subject: Re: SWAT Kats' Motorcycle At 11:12 PM 09/25/96 -0700, Dana wrote: >Actually, I think there are at least *two* different cycles the Kats >have used -- the Cyclotron, which can carry one or two passengers at a >time (likely varying according to the show's needs), and the Sandkat >(used in "Chaos In Crystal" for desert travel). I always thought the Sandkat was more like a snowmobile than a motorcycle. Maybe the Sandkat serves a dual purpose role when (or if) they need it for the snow.. ____________________________________________________ mweb@mich.com aka "Purrcy" http://www.mich.com/~mweb ------------------------------ From: Zax Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 21:25:15 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Kattoos... With advanced enough technology, it might be possible to change pigmentation genetically at the surface level, (that might be how it's done in Star Trek) ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 18:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Assorted furballs A few odds and ends (aka listmail replies, or furballs, take your pick): DJ: Two in particular that I hated, animation wise: the crystal one (haven't mentioned it in so long I don't remember the name) and "Enter the Madkat". "Madkat" was okay. Maybe I'm just partial to Litterbin. ;-) "Chaos in Crystal" was an okay episode, but they probably could have done more with Shard than they did. A couple of things to note (again?) about "Chaos": (1) the appearance and usage of the Plain Old Missile ("From Razor With Love!") and (2) it's one of the few episodes where someone (Warden Meese) is actually killed on-screen. Others that I can think of where on-screen deaths are implied: "Katastrophe" (the two security guards), "The Giant Bacteria" (Dr. Zyme), "Mutation City" (the vagrant Kat in the alley)... I imagine that the younger kats--toddler kittens, beneath speaking age--probably purr more often then adults, for no other reason than it seems to fit. Perhaps it's akin to human infants babbling, a behavior that adult kats could easily revert to if, say, they were in the mood for lovemaking or something. Me: Saliva helps a bit as an emergency painkiller. Edo: Yeah, although that it is still hurts. I didn't say it helps a whole lot, but it does help somewhat. Tho in cats (and perhaps even Kats) it has more healing properties -- who knows? (Can any biologists or zoologists out there add to this one?) Edo: Yeah, it's really embarasing seeing someone else doing the jobs that you were suppose to be doing. And knowing Feral's pride, he doesn't take humiliation lightly at all. He'd probably like nothing better than to throw both kats in the slammer and leave them there for the rest of their nine lives, but he knows that he can't do it arbitrarily. As far as pinning crimes on them, the more serious ones, like robbing the city (cf. "Night of the Dark Kat") stick like Teflon. Okay, is MC. PD also included in the on-topic stuff? Grr. Use common sense! Anything of and related to the Kats or their city is on-topic for the list, because that's the type of discussion the list was *intended* for. In other words, the answer is *yes*. BTW, why did Hackle says that it would take years to fix Cybertron? He may have been speaking figuratively, but the cybertron *was* rather heavily damaged, having suffered a couple of direct hits and being slammed against buildings several times, not to mention losing an arm. Plus, Hackle likely wanted to rebuild the thing *right* rather than *quickly* -- and he's a rather old scientist, so his reflexes have probably slowed down, too. (Doc Konway, want to add to this? ;-) Zax: You forgot : "Stray Cats". "Stray Cat Strut"? ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 19:48:00 -0600 Subject: Re: At 09:09 PM 9/26/96 +0700, Edo Andromedo wrote: >>Is there an Ireland? > >Well, the Animato article says that mayor Manx has a little bit of an Irish >accent. His accent is Manx, as in the Isle of Man, located in the center of the Irish Sea. The Manx language is very closely related to Irish. The people were forced to learn and speak English centuries ago, forcing their language into extinction. No@h Spro@t "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:02:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Kattoos... > Perhaps they might develop a process to insert a long-lasting dye in > the hair follicles themselves, such that the actual color of each > hair is changed, to produce a pattern _from_ the actual fur, rather Anybody who knew how to work such a process in a human-populated world would make a _fortune_ by eliminating grey hair. Would likely be even more profitable in a Furry world, that's like having the ability to change your skin color on a human. Daniel Pawtowski ------------------------------ From: Daniel Pawtowski Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 23:14:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Assorted furballs > ("From Razor With Love!") and (2) it's one of the few episodes where > someone (Warden Meese) is actually killed on-screen. Others that I can > think of where on-screen deaths are implied: "Katastrophe" (the two > security guards), "The Giant Bacteria" (Dr. Zyme), "Mutation City" (the > vagrant Kat in the alley)... There are others, although the show tries to be indirect about it. Recall in "Giant Bacteria", you get to see a shadow of the thing eating a cow. Then a farmer walks out, looks startled, and then the scene clips short. That farmer was *eaten*. For that matter, there are multiple cases of Enforcer choppers exploding in mid-air when there's no way anybody could've gotten out of the vehicle alive. For that matter, we see building explode or toppel over all the time, and it's difficult to believe that every last one of them was empty. Something the size of Dark Kat's Black Widow would find it difficult to walk through a city without killing anybody if it tried, and DK *wanted* to cause damage. Daniel Pawtowski dpawtows@vt.edu ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 22:56:04 -0600 Subject: Re: Assorted furballs The implied deaths that linger the most in my mind are when the bacterium in "The Giant Bacteria" ate an entire subway car full of people... I was shocked, and to me it set apart SK from any other non-adult cartoon I'd seen before it. No@h Spro@t "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #27 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n028' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #28 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Friday, 27 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 028 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Yvonne Bennett Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 02:13:20 -0400 Subject: Re: Uh oh At 04:31 PM 9/26/96 EDT, Ed Rudnicki wrote: >Is JQ doing that badly? Hey, JQ isn't *that* bad. Although one episode had me wondering if some New-Age person had written the script. (The one with whales, dolphins, + QuestWorld) >Ed >ever hopeful :) why are you hopeful that JQ does bad? Or do you mean you're hopeful that SK will come back? - -- Yvonne Bennett __/^-^\__ *Miya!* | "Did I mention I have 15 wild badgers living in catbunny@nrv.net | my trousers?" -Marcus (B5) ------------------------------ From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:15:34 +0700 (WIB) Subject: Re: swimming kats Chance wrote: >As far as I know, when they do the "downed jet" escape drill, all >they're taught is how to escape the cockpit (partially or fully >submerged), and how to use the survival gear (inflatable vests, beacons, >survival rafts and so forth). So I guess that if they stay afloat long enough till help arrives, the trainning is a success? >Many pilots during the Second World War and Korea couldn't swim either. But do they know on how to float? ------------------------------ From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 13:15:52 +0700 (WIB) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats' Motorcycle (Cyclotron) At 11:16 PM 9/26/96, mweb wrote: >I always thought the Sandkat was more like a snowmobile than a motorcycle. Well, there is a Super SnowKat in "Cold War". And it was commented as a turbo-powered snow friendly Cyclotron. ------------------------------ From: Yvonne Bennett Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 02:30:04 -0400 Subject: Re: (only a few comments) At 09:09 PM 9/26/96 +0700, Edo Andromedo wrote: > >Kats were designed to be as close to humans as possible. > >Hmmm, I wonder if Felina can be ambassador representing the kats to our >world if she remove her ears and tail (so that she can look like humans)? Quick question, since I've only seen a few eps... do *any* of the female Kats have cat-like faces? I mean, do any of them have mouths that look like this: (nose) | / \ `-' `-' Like all the male kats seem to have? (Heck, I know Samurai Pizza Cats (Japanese show) work that way...) >I guess that the earth in earthquake isn't necesary means Earth. I suspect "earth" in this case means "ground" or "dirt". >But the thing that I don't want to see or hear or read or feel is a >terraquake, I'm a little bit affraid if that happen. Better idea, if it happens on this planet, call it an Earthquake. If it happens anywhere else, call it an earthquake. You *do* know how to pronounce capital letters, right? :3 - -- Yvonne Bennett __/^-^\__ *Miya!* | "Did I mention I have 15 wild badgers living in catbunny@nrv.net | my trousers?" -Marcus (B5) ------------------------------ From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:17:07 +0700 (WIB) Subject: SWAT Kats KISS file. Is there a SWAT Kats KISS file on the net? KISS, the Kisekae Set system, is a fun and easy paper doll game for computer users. KISS takes its name from the Japanese term kisekae ningyou. Kisekae means changing clothes and ningyou means dolls so kisekae ningyou refers to playing dress-up with dolls. One popular doll in Japan is Licca-chan but western children may be more familiar with Barbie. In Japan, shoujou manga (comic books for girls) often come with paper dolls to cut out and dress. See http://iczer1.usacomputers.net/~dobu/kiss/index.html for more information. ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 18:52:31 +0800 Subject: Re: Assorted furballs H@rd Drive wrote: > The implied deaths that linger the most in my mind are when the bacterium > in "The Giant Bacteria" ate an entire subway car full of people... I > was shocked, and to me it set apart SK from any other non-adult > cartoon I'd seen before it. Egads! You're right! That scene is pretty disturbing, but consider this: if the bacterium passed through the city in order to get to the lab, think of the body count. "The Giant Bacteria" probably has the biggest implied body counts in SK ( or any other non-adult cartoon). Around a few hundred, maybe. I think Dr Clawson once told me that me that the scene had "no one is eaten on the train" because everyone in the train was eaten WITH the train! Gruesome! {-p Later! ************JULIAN HO < julianho@singnet.com.sg >************ "... I, Am That Is, Take On My Might Role..." - Part of Rhyme behind the Tapestry in the Great Hall, "Redwall" by Brian Jacques See my Redwall art at < http://www.geocities.com/Athens/2411/Julian.html >. Comments and criticism are welcome. Coming soon, my own web page! (Yeah! It seems like forever, doesn't it?!) ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 19:57:28 +0800 Subject: Re: Jake's relatives DJ Clawson wrote:> > Jake/Chance kiddie > scenes are so much fun to do (there's one in "Awakenings" and a whole > story based off some events in their childhood). Hmm, wonder if this could lead to a new SWAT Kats spin-off, "SWAT Kittens". It'll be interesting to see the SWAT Kats vs Commander Feral as kittens. Sort of like Disney's Jungle Cubs. ************JULIAN HO < julianho@singnet.com.sg >************ |\_/| SWAT ||Kats: The Radical Squadron \ / IS FUREVER !! V Razor: "Whoah! He *does* have eyes on the back of his head!" T-Bone : "No excuses." Honor the SWAT Kats Code 1.0 ! CR34/CT34 A++ D+ M- P+++ T++++ W RLU a20 cn+++ d+ e+ f- h** i++ p* sm Zm Coming soon, my own web page! (Conclusion: This could take eternity!) ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 20:16:19 +0800 Subject: Some points to ponder . . . 1.) Wonder if any Kats who joined the Enforcers knew that it'll be a short-lived career? I bet they didn't read the fine print: "You are entitled to get blown up by super villains in the line of duty." ;-) 2.) Could the Enforcers be really an army of Kat-klones, like Judge Dredd? All the Enforcers look the same to me. 3.) If Chance really lived up to his name-sake, imagine the wierd encounters the SWAT Kats will have. A day in Chance's live will probably be as interesting as Chance Harper in the show "Strange Luck". 4.) If the TurboKat has laser weaponery, how did Razor built it? Could radioactive substances be dumped in the Salvage Yard illegally? 5.) How did Manx get re-elected each year? If Feral had already admitted Manx's incompetence, why would the citizens of Megakat City not realised it? ************JULIAN HO < julianho@singnet.com.sg >************ "... I, Am That Is, Take On My Might Role..." - Part of Rhyme behind the Tapestry in the Great Hall, "Redwall" by Brian Jacques See my Redwall art at < http://www.geocities.com/Athens/2411/Julian.html >. Comments and criticism are welcome. Coming soon, my own web page! (Yeah! It seems like forever, doesn't it?!) ------------------------------ From: Simon Leet Wai Leong Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 20:28:35 +0800 Subject: Re: Assorted furballs At 06:36 PM 9/26/96 -0700, Dana wrote: >Perhaps it's akin to human infants babbling, a behavior that adult kats >could easily revert to if, say, they were in the mood for lovemaking or >something. If terran cats are anything to go by, whole neighbourhoods will know when any lovemaking occurs. While on the topic, Katnip is probably a killer aphrodisiac! Oysters? Pah! > BTW, why did Hackle says that it would take years to fix > Cybertron? >He may have been speaking figuratively, but the cybertron *was* >rather heavily damaged, having suffered a couple of direct hits and >being slammed against buildings several times, not to mention losing >an arm. I'm not sure, but I believe that Prof. Hackle mentions at the beginning of the episode that he had been working on Cybertron for *months* for the SWATKats and he mentions at the end that he'd take years to fix it ... heck, why not build another one from scratch?! :) - -Simon Leet :) "Figures. All my life, I've fought against imperialism. Now, suddenly, I AM the expanding Russian frontier." "But with very nice borders." Ivanova and Dr. Franklin, Babylon 5 ------------------------------ From: Ed Rudnicki Date: Fri, 27 Sep 96 10:57:47 EDT Subject: Re: Uh oh Yvonne Bennett: >Hey, JQ isn't *that* bad. >Although one episode had me wondering if some New-Age person had written >the script. (The one with whales, dolphins, + QuestWorld) Sounds a lot like Ted Turner/Captain Planet TreeHuggerSpeak to me. Sigh. >why are you hopeful that JQ does bad? Or do you mean you're hopeful that >SK will come back? Actually I'm not too hopeful that SK will come back, although I'd love to see that, and the recent Warner merger offers hope. But I do want to see JQ fail miserably, as poetic justice. In SK TedCo had an outstanding property, but botched the licensing horribly, and then had the gall to cancel the show because of poor performance of licensed merchandise, which was never available when the show was being aired. With JQ TedCo went to the other extreme, with a massive licensing and promotional campaign, well in advance of the show's debut, for what is IMHO a rehash and an inferior property. Put simply, SK had in essence no licensing/promotional campaign at the start of the show, which is where one does such things, while JQ had millions poured into licensing and promotion. TedCo made a horrible mistake in the way they botched SK, but other good, creative people paid for that mistake (not to mention the fans). I want to see JQ fail as poetic justice for that mistake, not to mention my objections to the property itself ("No sir, I don't like it; not one bit." :). YMMV. Ed ------------------------------ From: regal Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:08:49 -0400 Subject: Re: Some points to ponder . . . > 1.) Wonder if any Kats who joined the Enforcers knew that it'll be > a short-lived career? I bet they didn't read the fine print: "You are > entitled to get blown up by super villains in the line of duty." ;-) I don't think anyone joins the police, military, FBI, ectera expecting to die. I'm sure the same goes for the Enforcers. However, that do know they can die, so it takes a brave individual to be an Enforcer. Look at Commander Feral. One of his few good traits is that he's courageous. > 2.) Could the Enforcers be really an army of Kat-klones, like Judge > Dredd? All the Enforcers look the same to me. If you get a lot of people in the same uniform with the same equipment and simular builds, they will look alike. > 3.) If Chance really lived up to his name-sake, imagine the wierd > encounters the SWAT Kats will have. A day in Chance's live will > probably be as interesting as Chance Harper in the show "Strange Luck". He's got that now! :] > 4.) If the TurboKat has laser weaponery, how did Razor built it? > Could radioactive substances be dumped in the Salvage Yard illegally? Like any junk yard, there could be some stuff there that wasn't supposed to be there, but still, Razor is obviously an inventive genius. > 5.) How did Manx get re-elected each year? If Feral had already > admitted Manx's incompetence, why would the citizens of Megakat City > not realised it? Oh, this one's easy. Incompetent people get re-elected in real life all the time. Sometimes it's voter apathy. Sometimes the incompetent offical is a lousy leader, but a very good campaigner. Strangely, part of the blame is due to Callie. She does such a good job as Deputy Mayor, the citizens never see how inept Manx is. In the first episode with the Metallikats, Callie reveals that she is the one who does all the paperwork. In many episodes we see that she is the only official with common sense. In a crisis, Manx is too cowardly and Commander Feral is too narrow-minded. It isn't in her personality, but it would be best for the city if Callie turned on Manx and ran for Mayor herself. Of course, she would then need a good Deputy. How about Felina Feral? I'd vote for them. :] - -- "Computers hate people. They will destroy your data just to be mean. Your best strategy is to lie to your computer and convince it that you don't care about your data." -- Dogbert Regal regal@negia.net ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:38:38 -0400 Subject: Re: Some points to ponder . . . At 08:16 PM 9/27/96 +0800, you wrote: >1.) Wonder if any Kats who joined the Enforcers knew that it'll be a >short-lived career? I bet they didn't read the fine print: "You are >entitled to get blown up by super villains in the line of duty." ;-) Hey, I bet Xanatos Enterprises employees (on "Gargoyles") have similar clauses about getting attacked by medival creatures who only come out at night. Any police enforcer job has the same risks. Any cop'll tell you that. > 2.) Could the Enforcers be really an army of Kat-klones, like Judge Dredd? > All the Enforcers look the same to me. That's pretty much 'cause the animators got a little lazy (I don't blame them--who'd want to come up with different faces for every extra?). I have other enforcers in my newest stories--Carlson and Kowalsky. Jade Callan has Officer Snow and Lynx in her fanfiction. > 3.) If Chance really lived up to his name-sake, imagine the wierd > encounters the SWAT Kats will have. A day in Chance's live will probably be > as interesting as Chance Harper in the show "Strange Luck". Interesting . . . a strange luck crossover: "Hi. My name's Chance." "No, really? Mine is too!" > 4.) If the TurboKat has laser weaponery, how did Razor built it? Could > radioactive substances be dumped in the Salvage Yard illegally? My explanation in the COTS series is Hackle is Jake's father, so he gets some of the stuff he can't get from the yard from his dad. ("Hey dad--can I borrow the laser for an evening? Chance and I are going out.") > 5.) How did Manx get re-elected each year? If Feral had already admitted > Manx's incompetence, why would the citizens of Megakat City not realised > it? He could be unopposed. After all, who's want to run MKC? (aside from us, of course) Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy E-mail me for copies of "The Watcher Files of Chance Furlong" SK/Highlander-spoof fanfiction, due out soon. - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:45:32 -0400 Subject: Re: Edo wrote: >>And, DJ, you're stories are NEVER difficult to read - difficult to >>stop reading, maybe, but never difficult to read. > >Cause if I do stop, I will probably forgot which part of the story that I >had already read. You stories are big, but they are good, DJ, please do >write a lot of them. > I'll try! As I mentioned before, "X-File #10-1115" is still on hold, but it should start up again with the XF season premiere next week. I just dropped one of my honors classes because all these honors and APs are taking up too much of my time, so I may start up the writing again soon. So do you want "The Watcher Files.." when it comes out? >DJ! Could you draw us a kat skeleton? Sorry, but I can't do bones so well. Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy E-mail me for copies of "The Watcher Files of Chance Furlong" SK/Highlander-spoof fanfiction, due out soon. - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Yvonne Bennett Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 16:58:11 -0400 Subject: Re: Jake's relatives At 07:57 PM 9/27/96 +0800, Julian Ho wrote: >It'll be interesting to see the SWAT Kats vs Commander Feral as kittens. >Sort of like Disney's Jungle Cubs. Sound more like Muppet Babies to me. *shudder* (*geez*... I could see it happening.... *aaiieee*) - -- Yvonne Bennett __/^-^\__ *Miya!* | "Did I mention I have 15 wild badgers living in catbunny@nrv.net | my trousers?" -Marcus (B5) ------------------------------ From: Yvonne Bennett Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 17:01:44 -0400 Subject: Re: Some points to ponder . . . At 08:16 PM 9/27/96 +0800, Julian Ho wrote: >1.) Wonder if any Kats who joined the Enforcers knew that it'll be a >short-lived career? I bet they didn't read the fine print: "You are >entitled to get blown up by super villains in the line of duty." ;-) Wonder how many of them read that and said "Cool! Yeah!" >5.) How did Manx get re-elected each year? If Feral had already admitted >Manx's incompetence, why would the citizens of Megakat City not realised >it? Maybe they don't care. "Another election's coming up, someone wants to run against Manx." "Why? He may be a dolt, but he hasn't done any horrible stuff to us. Besides, he's funny!" - -- Yvonne Bennett __/^-^\__ *Miya!* | "Did I mention I have 15 wild badgers living in catbunny@nrv.net | my trousers?" -Marcus (B5) ------------------------------ From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 05:10:40 +0700 (WIB) Subject: Re: (only a few comments) >Quick question, since I've only seen a few eps... do *any* of the female >Kats have cat-like faces? Only if you view them from the side. >I mean, do any of them have mouths that look >like this: (nose) > | > / \ > `-' `-' >Like all the male kats seem to have? Er, I don't think so. Female kats nose seem to look like a triangle. >>I guess that the earth in earthquake isn't necesary means Earth. > >I suspect "earth" in this case means "ground" or "dirt". I agree to your opinion. >>But the thing that I don't want to see or hear or read or feel is a >>terraquake, I'm a little bit affraid if that happen. > >Better idea, if it happens on this planet, call it an Earthquake. Er, Terra as in Terra Chang? I was refering to that Terra. Can you imagine seeing Terra shaking? Now that is one quake I don't want to see, hear, read, or feel. >If it happens anywhere else, call it an earthquake. Okay, earthquake it is. >You *do* know how to pronounce capital letters, right? :3 Well, all of the signs in the series are in capitals letters. ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 18:59:33 -0600 Subject: Re: Some points to ponder . . . At 04:38 PM 9/27/96 -0400, DJ Clawson wrote: >> 5.) How did Manx get re-elected each year? If Feral had already admitted >> Manx's incompetence, why would the citizens of Megakat City not realised >> it? > > He could be unopposed. After all, who's want to run MKC? (aside from us, >of course) Real life example: The mayor of Washington, D.C. is a convicted criminal, and I think he's either been unopposed for years or opposed by total losers. Washington today is supposed to be one of the poorest and most poorly-managed large cities in the U.S. No@h Spro@t "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 19:02:23 -0700 Subject: Re: Assorted furballs >> The implied deaths that linger the most in my mind are when the bacterium >> in "The Giant Bacteria" ate an entire subway car full of people. >Giant Bacteria" probably has the biggest implied body counts in SK ( or any >other non-adult cartoon). Around a few hundred, maybe. I thought when Razor toppled the building in Metal Urgency, would have more kats than a subway car would have. ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 19:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Subject: listmail replies Me: ["The Giant Bacteria"] is one of the few episodes where someone (Warden Meese) is actually killed on-screen. Daniel: There are others, although the show tries to be indirect about it. Noah: The implied deaths that linger the most in my mind are when the bacterium in "The Giant Bacteria" ate an entire subway car full of people. I did a double-take at one of the scenes in "The Deadly Pyramid," where a tour bus full of tourists is forced off a cliff and is later picked up and thrown at an Enforcer chopper. My first impression was that the tourists were never able to escape the bus, and when both the bus and chopper were destroyed, the implied deaths really stood out. However, if you look *closely*, you can see the kats running from the overturned bus when Razor targets the mummies. It's a very brief scene, however, so it's very easy to overlook. Still, two Enforcer choppers are nailed in the same scene, and nobody is shown ejecting from them. I think it's safe to assume we can add a few Enforcer bodies to the kats' body count. Edo: So I guess that if [pilots] stay afloat long enough till help arrives, the trainning is a success? It is if the purpose of the training is to survive long enough for help to arrive. I remember learning a technique in swimming called the "survival float" -- you float face down in the water, arms and legs hanging (the air in your lungs will keep you afloat), and push down to raise your head enough to take a breath. Repeat as necessary. Julian: 1.) Wonder if any Kats who joined the Enforcers knew that it'll be a short-lived career? For some reason I'm reminded of a line from Super Chicken: "You knew the job was dangerous when you took it!" 2.) Could the Enforcers be really an army of Kat-klones? A running gag a friend and I had on the MUCKs was a puppet named "Ensign Extra," an Enforcer who would always get hit in an attack. He'd be the one you'd see that would be killed, maimed, etc. (Talk about an unlucky feline!) 4.) If the TurboKat has laser weaponery, how did Razor built it? Could radioactive substances be dumped in the Salvage Yard illegally? Don't forget that Razor *is* a weapons expert. With the arsenal available at the salvage yard (it's more than likely that non-operational weapons, such as bazookas, etc. have been sent to the yard), all Razor would need to do is find a laser, fix it and then remodel it for the jet. 5.) How did Manx get re-elected each year? Given that Manx is virtually nothing without Callie, I suspect he's had Callie help him in his campaign. Manx probably also has the money to keep him in office (the power ends up in the hands of whoever has the most money). I smell a potential kat-scandal brewing here; Feral supplies Manx with money for his campaign, and Manx gives Feral whatever he wants. May be dirty, but that's poltiics for you. Simon: Katnip is probably a killer aphrodisiac! Oysters? Pah! In small amounts, Katnip might be have some medicinal value, but in large amounts (and especially in concentrated form) it's a controlled substance. Remember "The Metallikats"? I believe that Prof. Hackle mentions at the beginning of ["The Deadly Pyramid"] that he had been working on Cybertron for *months*. Did he spend months *working* on it or months *perfecting* it? Ed: Sounds a lot like Ted Turner/Captain Planet TreeHuggerSpeak to me. One of the things that killed a Kats ep for me plotwise ("Caverns Of Horror") was that it seemed far too Captain Planet-esque for my taste (illegally dumped toxic waste mutating a few rock scorpions). I almost expected someone to yell "Go Planet!" during the episode. :-P Actually I'm not too hopeful that SK will come back, although I'd love to see that, and the recent Warner merger offers hope. Wonder if I should mention that I had a rather strange dream last night where I was seeing a new Kats episode, but didn't know that it was a new episode? By the time I figured out what was going on, it was too late for me to tape the bloody thing. I don't remember offhand what the story was at the time, unfortunately. In SK TedCo had an outstanding property, but botched the licensing horribly, and then had the gall to cancel the show because of poor performance of licensed merchandise, which was never available when the show was being aired. Then the merchandise, of course, comes out *after* the show is cancelled. Go figure. BTW, I've been hearing reports of some Kats action figures being sighted, but I don't think they're readily available (in other words, it's likely you'll have to hunt for them). SK had in essence no licensing/promotional campaign at the start of the show. The story I heard (tho this was back in January '95) was that the merchandise wasn't marketed properly because of miscommunication. Headache after headache piled up as people tried to get the merchandise done, and finally someone said, "forget it, let's just can the whole thing." The merchandise deal fell through, and as a result, the show was yanked midway through its second season of production. Regal: Look at Commander Feral. One of his few good traits is that he's courageous. Courageous and somewhat of a glory-hound. Remember what he did to Chance and Jake, then blamed *his* mistake on *them*? Someone (DJ?) made Hackle Jake's father in fanfic. Assuming that Jake's last name (Clawson) is the name he actually uses (and not a pseudonym), does that mean that Jake may have been adopted, and thus might not even *know* that Hackle is his father? ------------------------------ From: Pastmaster Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 19:18:06 -0700 Subject: Re: (only a few comments) >>Quick question, since I've only seen a few eps... do *any* of the female >>Kats have cat-like faces? > >Only if you view them from the side. Has anyone beside me think that from the side, Razor looks like a dog? It's probably just me being out of date and out of touch to such an extent that I'm going crazy... again. >>>I guess that the earth in earthquake isn't necesary means Earth. >> >>I suspect "earth" in this case means "ground" or "dirt". > >I agree to your opinion. I've always stayed away from that because there could be a paradox there. If the kat's planet was named anything other than Earth, then they might have another way of saying Earth. >>>But the thing that I don't want to see or hear or read or feel is a >>>terraquake, I'm a little bit affraid if that happen. >> >>Better idea, if it happens on this planet, call it an Earthquake. > >Er, Terra as in Terra Chang? I was refering to that Terra. I wanna have ona those happen soon! I miss her clogging up my mail server!! ____________________________________________________________________________ Esteban (Eh STAY bon) "friends to the anti-SK Extremist" Kelley SK Extremist, Sailor Moon megafan, Anime fan, world's first brown haired blonde bimbo http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/5927/index.htm ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ tED' tURNOVOR's E-mail: ted.turner@turner.com ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 23:35:28 -0400 Subject: Re: listmail replies >Someone (DJ?) made Hackle Jake's father in fanfic. Assuming that Jake's >last name (Clawson) is the name he actually uses (and not a pseudonym), >does that mean that Jake may have been adopted, and thus might not even >*know* that Hackle is his father? This was dicussed from two different views in my fanfiction. "Children of the Stone" took the stance that a) Hackle was his father, and changed his name from the original "Clawson" for security reasons, and b) Jake grew up with him, and those two scenes in the series that contradict this didn't happen. It's an explanation for Jake getting some of his firepower (as I said before, imagine this: "Hey dad, can I borrow the laser tonight? Chance and I are going out..." Hackle, according to the fanfic, does know his son is a SWAT Kat, but doesn't quite approve of it (there was some dialogue about this in both "Children..." and "Awakenings") "Reunion" took another side : a) Hackle was his father (with the name change for the same reasons and b) Jake doesn't know it. In "Reunion" Hackle disappeared when Jake was 2. If you want the full explanation, go read the story while Edo's site is still up (hey, it's only 60 Kb) or e-mail me. I mentioned it to Davis Doi that Hackle really looked like Jake with a beard, and he said he hadn't really realized it until I brought it up. Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy E-mail me for copies of "The Watcher Files of Chance Furlong" SK/Highlander-spoof fanfiction, due out soon. - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Yvonne Bennett Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 23:48:38 -0400 Subject: Re: Uh oh At 10:57 AM 9/27/96 EDT, Ed Rudnicki wrote: > >With JQ TedCo went to the other extreme, with a massive licensing >and promotional campaign, well in advance of the show's debut, for >what is IMHO a rehash and an inferior property. Hmm... I don't remember ever seeing any advertising for JQ. Not during any of the few shows I *do* watch on TV. I didn't even hear about the show until a friend of mine pointed it out to me. (He happened to be the same friend that pointed me at Swat Kats, too.) I seem to be giving up on TV in general these days, with a few exceptions. - -- Yvonne Bennett __/^-^\__ *Miya!* | "Did I mention I have 15 wild badgers living in catbunny@nrv.net | my trousers?" -Marcus (B5) ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #28 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n029' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #29 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Saturday, 28 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 029 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Yvonne Bennett Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 23:54:13 -0400 Subject: Re: (only a few comments) At 05:10 AM 9/28/96 +0700, Edo Andromedo wrote: >>I mean, do any of them have mouths that look >>like this: (nose) >> | >> / \ >> `-' `-' >>Like all the male kats seem to have? > >Er, I don't think so. Female kats nose seem to look like a triangle. No, no, no... not counting the nose... the mouth itself! the line between the nose and mouth... (Adding in the nose would have added more ascii) here's another example. cat smiley :3 human smiley :) Male Kats seem to have the cat smiley, and female Kats seem to have the human smiley... or at least the ones I've seen do. >Er, Terra as in Terra Chang? I was refering to that Terra. Sorry, didn't catch that. I thought you meant "Terra" as in "the other name for Earth." - -- Yvonne Bennett __/^-^\__ *Miya!* | "Did I mention I have 15 wild badgers living in catbunny@nrv.net | my trousers?" -Marcus (B5) ------------------------------ From: Ed Rudnicki Date: Sat, 28 Sep 96 0:11:25 EDT Subject: Re: Uh oh Yvonne Bennett: >Hmm... I don't remember ever seeing any advertising for JQ. Not >during any of the few shows I *do* watch on TV. I didn't even hear >about the show until a friend of mine pointed it out to me. >(He happened to be the same friend that pointed me at Swat Kats, too.) While I don't recall much advertising either, apart from spots on TBS and TNT, TedCo had a massive presence at Toy Fair in February and especially at Licensing 96 in June. These are trade-only (ha! :) shows held in NYC each year, and are very much "behind the scenes". >I seem to be giving up on TV in general these days, with a few exceptions. Ditto. Sigh.... Ed ------------------------------ From: chance Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 22:02:48 -0700 Subject: Re: Uh oh At 12:11 AM 9/28/96 EDT, Ed Rudnicki wrote: >While I don't recall much advertising either, apart from spots on >TBS and TNT, TedCo had a massive presence at Toy Fair in February >and especially at Licensing 96 in June. These are trade-only (ha! :) >shows held in NYC each year, and are very much "behind the scenes". Yeah...I understand that execs at all levels of Turner started to get cold feet WRT the property (gee...now where have we heard THAT before...), and a lot of the "ad blitz" just never materialized. Early plans and what actually came to fruition don't even appear casually related. They *are* planning some kind of ad campaign to launch Davis' eps (evidently after reading some suggestion of same on rec.arts.animation!!), but since they aired the first one when they weren't supposed to, I dunno if that's still in the cards. It'd be kind of anticlimactic, IMO. As far as Ed's earlier summary of JQ vs. Kats goes...exactly right. The scary thing is that most of the H-B types realized it too: they've all gone save Seibert and one other. I'm not sure if the exodus coupled with the merger will act as some kind of executive diuretic WRT the flow of common sense, but it is movement in a definable direction - if at the speed of the continental drift. >>I seem to be giving up on TV in general these days, with a few exceptions. > >Ditto. Sigh.... Greed. All greed. 18-49 beer-swilling race-car-driver wannabe's simply don't have the attention span for anything requiring the volt or two necessary to trip the average EEG machine, and that's the kind of deep-pockets blue-collar knob that the programming is geared towards...with a few imaginitive exceptions falling into the realm of "highbrow". "SwatKats" fell nicely within that last category. 'Stupid' and 'unimaginitive' are the primary symptoms of the most virulent plague currently known to man. Ironic how the cause of same and the "Center for Disease Control" are both conveniently located in Atlanta. Andy (who had an extra helping of Kellogg's Nasty Snax this morning...) ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #29 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n030' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #30 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Sunday, 29 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 030 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Julian Ho" Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 14:56:19 +0800 Subject: Fw: Some points to ponder . . . >OOPS!!!!! >That last E-mail to you was meant for the List. Could you either >post it for me or bounce it back to me? Thanks, and apologies! > >Ed Forwarding for Ed to the list... - ---------- From: Ed Rudnicki To: Julian Ho Subject: Re: Some points to ponder . . . Date: Saturday, September 28, 1996 12:06 PM Julian Ho: >1.) Wonder if any Kats who joined the Enforcers knew that it'll be a >short-lived career? I bet they didn't read the fine print: "You are >entitled to get blown up by super villains in the line of duty." ;-) While it _can_ be a short-lived career, it will not necessarily be such for every Enforcer, or even many. Just as in our society you have rookie cops getting killed in the line of duty, while in the same department you can find cops about to retire who've never had to draw their sidearm on duty. Yes, being an Enforcer can be hazardous to one's longevity, just like being a cop or soldier in our world. But it's still pretty appealing, getting to face new challenges every day, play with nifty gadgets, and possibly find a better career than in a non-Enforcer field. Certain personality types are also naturally drawn to such fields (an adrenaline rush can be pretty intense :). Hey, I face the risk of getting blown to bits on occasion, and have the three grey hairs to prove it, but that is far outweighed by the challenges and rewards of the job. You pays your money, you takes your chances :) >2.) Could the Enforcers be really an army of Kat-klones, like Judge Dredd? >All the Enforcers look the same to me. Apart from animation shortcuts, when you consider the fact that there are undoubtedly physical requirements of the job, and the armor and uniforms they wear give them a sameness, this is no surprise. There may even be a requirement for Kats that fall in a certain size/height range, just as Russian tank crewmen must be 5'4" or shorter. >4.) If the TurboKat has laser weaponery, how did Razor built it? Could >radioactive substances be dumped in the Salvage Yard illegally? Why radioactive? Lasers do not require radioactive materials to function? Ed ------------------------------ From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 19:44:49 +0700 (WIB) Subject: Re: Some points to ponder . . . JULIAN HO wrote: >1.) Wonder if any Kats who joined the Enforcers knew that it'll be a >short-lived career? I think that the Enforcers got all of those kats in the same way on how the Imperial navy in Star Wars got all of those Storm Troppers. >2.) Could the Enforcers be really an army of Kat-klones, like Judge Dredd? >All the Enforcers look the same to me. Well, there is one unique Enforcer in "SWAT Kats Unplugged". >4.) If the TurboKat has laser weaponery, how did Razor built it? Razor probably didn't built it, he probably took it from the scrap yard and installed it on the TurboKat. >Could radioactive substances be dumped in the Salvage Yard illegally? Why not? The Salvage Yard in MegaKat City seem to be a dumping ground for everything. From aircraft fuselage to robot criminals. >5.) How did Manx get re-elected each year? If Feral had already admitted >Manx's incompetence, why would the citizens of Megakat City not realised >it? Where there is only one candidate, there is only one choice. I guess that there is no one stupid enough or crazy enough to run for mayor of MegaKat City besides Manx. ------------------------------ From: kaychang@eden.com (Herald-Mage Tlyria) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 09:12:10 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: (only a few comments) Heeeey! I got a new nick!!! :):P >>>Quick question, since I've only seen a few eps... do *any* of the female >>>Kats have cat-like faces? >> >>Only if you view them from the side. > >Has anyone beside me think that from the side, Razor looks like a dog? Oooooo! :):) No, Razor don't look like no dog t' me, sir, but that might be 'cause you were drunk at th' time... But I think that the 'Kats females don't have cat faces... with the exception of Callie in a few eps... like Deady Pyramid... It's cooooooooold heeeeeereeee! >>>>I guess that the earth in earthquake isn't necesary means Earth. >>> >>>I suspect "earth" in this case means "ground" or "dirt". >> >>I agree to your opinion. > >I've always stayed away from that because there could be a paradox there. If >the kat's planet was named anything other than Earth, then they might have >another way of saying Earth. Earth, Gaia (is that how you spell it?) Mother Earth, and yes, even my name... Terra! :P/;D >>Er, Terra as in Terra Chang? I was refering to that Terra. > >I wanna have ona those happen soon! I miss her clogging up my mail >server!! Aww... I'm loved... ;D Ryaaaaaaaan... it's not *MY* fault the teachers love giving homework; it's not *MY* fault that my parents won't let me get on the 'Net on weekdays ; it's not my fault either that I'm freezing cold (I have a blanket over my shoulders and I'm *still* freezing) or that now I'm depressed and I want to buy a movie my parents would probably say "No" to... or maybe not... after all, they let me borrow it, so they shouldn't mind if I buy it the next time we go to the malll....... I'm babbling again, aren't I? Script! Where's the script! I need script! Okay! Wrong script! Sorry! :P So... I escaped from ScHoOl, however briefly. Yes!!!! (I'm always here, guys... I'm just not talking... I wouldn't lurk so much if we had a listbeast... but that might be dangerous Insanityinsanityrealityrealityinsanityrealityinsanityrealityinsanityreality..... my two biggest problems... Am I clogging your mail server yet, Ryan? ;) Nemesis... Razor... T-Bone... Jake... Chance... you... me... and a partridge in a pear treeeeeeeeeee!!! Has anyone seen LtFeral@aol.com? Kris/Melissa? Anyone seen her?? Meow! Meow-ow! Meow Meow-ow! Meow-ow Meow-ow-ow-ow-ow! Me-e-ow-ow Me-e-ow-ow! Meow-ow! Meow-ow Me-e-ow-ow-ow-ow! Now try singing that! (I wonder... if the 'Kats have an equivilent of Christmas, do have Christmas carols?) Okay, I'll stop now... Okay, I love ya buh-bye!! Terra Chang *~*~* Insanity is a playground for the unimaginitive. *~*~* CrystalSkye's Personal Universe! GO SEE IT! ;) http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/6315/index.html ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 08:59:01 -0600 Subject: Re: (only a few comments) >Has anyone beside me think that from the side, Razor looks like a dog? It's >probably just me being out of date and out of touch to such an extent that >I'm going crazy... again. If you're going crazy, count me in. I've noticed the same things, though to a greater extent, with T-Bone and Feral. I've even been thinking of ways to write about this... Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: "Julian Ho" Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 23:47:08 +0800 Subject: Re: listmail replies Dana Uehara wrote: > Me: ["The Giant Bacteria"] is one of the few episodes where someone > (Warden Meese) is actually killed on-screen. Huh? Which episode did Warden Meese appear in anyway, "Chaos in Crystal" or "The Giant Bacteria"? > I did a double-take at one of the scenes in "The Deadly Pyramid," where > a tour bus full of tourists is forced off a cliff and is later picked > up and thrown at an Enforcer chopper.... > ... Still, two Enforcer choppers are nailed in the same scene, and nobody > is shown ejecting from them. I think it's safe to assume we can add > a few Enforcer bodies to the kats' body count. Yeah, this episode surprised me too. No casualty in the civilians. Not only did the bus driver and the tourists escape, did anyone notice that Gregory, the photographer, jumped out before his (Dr Sinian's actually) jeep blew up? > A running gag a friend and I had on the MUCKs was a puppet named "Ensign > Extra," an Enforcer who would always get hit in an attack. He'd be the > one you'd see that would be killed, maimed, etc. (Talk about an unlucky > feline!) Bwa-Ha-Ha! ROTFL There goes Ensign Extra's 9 lives! ;-D The only dialogue he'll ever say if he appears in the show will probably be "Aaarrgh!" before he got hit. > Wonder if I should mention that I had a rather strange dream last night > where I was seeing a new Kats episode, but didn't know that it was a > new episode? By the time I figured out what was going on, it was too > late for me to tape the bloody thing. I don't remember offhand what > the story was at the time, unfortunately. Who knows? Dame Destiny is pretty fickle sometimes. If SK has new episodes coming, you've probably predicted the future. Prepare to change history! Deja Vu always ring twice. I used to wish that the Japanese SFX shows should be made in the U.S. But then Saban introduces MMPR, which I had a love-hate relationship with the show. Now, I wish I hadn't made THAT wish! Remember the old saying: "Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it." ************JULIAN HO < julianho@singnet.com.sg >************ "... I, Am That Is, Take On My Might Role..." - Part of Rhyme behind the Tapestry in the Great Hall, "Redwall" by Brian Jacques See my Redwall art at < http://www.geocities.com/Athens/2411/Julian.html >. Comments and criticism are welcome. Coming soon, my own web page! (Yeah! It seems like forever, doesn't it?!) ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 11:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: listmail replies Julian Ho writes: > Dana Uehara wrote: > > Me: ["The Giant Bacteria"] is one of the few episodes where someone > > (Warden Meese) is actually killed on-screen. > > Huh? Which episode did Warden Meese appear in anyway, "Chaos in Crystal" or > "The Giant Bacteria"? Sorry, I meant "Chaos..." I stand corrected. (Haven't seen "Giant Bacteria" in quite a while as it is.) > Gregory, the photographer, jumped out before his (Dr Sinian's actually) > jeep blew up? The Megakat Geographic photographer? That was Randall, not Gregory. His jeep smashed into the side of the mountain, but he was thrown clear from it and managed to run away. What kind of surprises me about this, however, is that his voice credit is listed in the episode, even though he isn't a main character in the ep. In other news: I caught an episode of "Felix the Cat" on CBS this morning and noticed that Charlie Adler was listed in the end credits as the voice of Felix (previously it was Thom Hernandez, voice of Lexington on Gargoyles). I guess Charlie Adler went from one kat (T-Bone) to another. "Cry Turmoil"/"SWAT Kats Unplugged" is the Kats ep on the Cartoon Network this week, btw -- for anyone who's keeping tabs on the series. ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 15:54:01 -0400 Subject: YAY! Our kat team still has their jobs! Just found out . . . despite the horrible situation the new JQ is in, the production team of the yet-to-air-but-one-Davis Doi JQ episodes, made by Davis, Lance Falk, Glenn Leopold and others, is not in risk of losing their jobs (currently). I am no longer allowed to quote my sources (but you can all take a lucky guess), but the ones in the frying pan are basically guys higher up on the production scale--this is above Davis, and he's a producer--not the creative people like animators. I don't know about a company location change, but I don't think they'll bother; after all, the team is the same. That means whatever mail you guys want to send to the old kat team is perfectly okay for a while--the address is fine. Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy E-mail me for copies of "The Watcher Files of Chance Furlong" SK/Highlander-spoof fanfiction, due out soon. - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #30 ************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------- Subject: Majordomo file: list 'kats-digest' file 'v01.n031' Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 06:12:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Majordomo@maxie.com To: GateKat@SWATKats.Net -- From: owner-kats-digest To: kats-digest Subject: kats-digest V1 #31 Reply-To: kats Errors-To: owner-kats-digest Precedence: bulk To-Unsubscribe: send email to 'majordomo@maxie.com' with the words 'unsubscribe kats-digest' in the message body kats-digest Monday, 30 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 031 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 03:49:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: kat birthdays Thought of something earlier tonight about how it might be kinda neat to have a listing of different list members' birthdays (month/day). We used to do this on the Disney TV Animation mailing list, and I thought it might be interesting to see if it could also be done with this list. If you're interested, email me with the month and day of your birthday (please spell out the month so I don't get the date mixed up -- 12/8, for example, could either mean December 8 or August 12). I'll compile as many as I can over the next week or so and will post the birthdays to the list on a monthly basis. When's mine? Well, you'll just have to wait and see. ;-) ------------------------------ From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 16:37:27 +0700 (WIB) Subject: Re: Female kats, cat faces? >I think that the 'Kats females don't have cat faces... with the >exception of Callie in a few eps... like Deady Pyramid... Er, I think that in "The Deadly Pyramid" her face look like human face. >Has anyone seen LtFeral@aol.com? Kris/Melissa? Anyone seen her?? Well, she (Kris) forgot to be mention in the "siblings" topic. And no, we haven't *seen* one of her posting to the list. >(I wonder... if the 'Kats have an equivilent of >Christmas, do have Christmas carols?) I'm not going into that subject (Christmas) again. >Okay, I'll stop now... > Okay, I love ya buh-bye!! Hi Terra, are you interested on making a SK episode guide? BTW, where is the synopsies for your stories? ------------------------------ From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 10:57:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: FCNL I'm going to need some fan mail letters to characters for my next issue! ------------------------------ From: Jesus Fernandez Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 08:07:55 -0500 Subject: Re: Kattoos... Ed Rudnicki wrote: > Perhaps they might develop a process to insert a long-lasting dye in > the hair follicles themselves, such that the actual color of each > hair is changed, to produce a pattern _from_ the actual fur, rather > than simply on it. The catch of course is to have the dyed > follicle retain the dye for life. What I've also seen here where I live is people dying their hair a color outside the "regular" hair colors.. would it be possible that Kats (young teen) would be dying their fur with shades Purple, Blue, etc.? - -JF P.S: as you know my nethosting server is down.. they're upgrading stuff, so the CGI scripts can work and other things. They're really nice poeple, and done a few favors for me in the past (such as adding mime types), so I'll trust they will be working hard to fix any problems that may arise. I am mirroring my fanfic archive on another server.. along with my personal and other pages. Thanks for waiting.. ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 10:41:37 -0600 Subject: Re: Female kats, cat faces? At 04:37 PM 9/29/96 +0700, Edo Andromedo wrote: [snip] >>(I wonder... if the 'Kats have an equivilent of >>Christmas, do have Christmas carols?) > >I'm not going into that subject (Christmas) again. It makes sense that every earth religion would also exist on Katworld, because Katworld is just too similar to earth for them not to exist. Christmas HAS to exist. (I DO watch too many James Burke shows. It is inevitable that reality and education will eventually destroy fantasy. But education is a necessary tool in life, because it becomes painful to reject what you have learned to be true... Isn't it ironic...that the 1970s even existed?) [snip] Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 11:02:23 -0600 Subject: My Previous Post My previous post wasn' too depressing, was it? Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 16:23:42 -0400 Subject: Religions, again H@rd Drive wrote: > It makes sense that every earth religion would also exist on Katworld, > because Katworld is just too similar to earth for them not to exist. > Christmas HAS to exist. Whoa. This is one heck of a logical stretch here. To say that Katworld must be *exactly* like ours because it is similar is a pretty weak argument. That is like saying that because two people look very much alike, they must also like the same foods and enjoy the same leisure time activities. No, we have no basis to build any arguments on, and we've been over this. Religion is a no-no subject in cartooning today (aside from the Animaniac's Christmas Special), so we have nothing but conjecture. > Isn't it ironic...that the 1970s ever existed? What do you mean? There was nothing wrong with the 1970's. Some of us were very much alive and kicking then. The only thing wrong with the 1970's was Disco, and Watergate, and bellbottom pants, and Viet Nam, and Jimmy Carter, and..... ------------------------------ From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 16:22:13 -0400 Subject: Re: Female kats, cat faces? At 10:41 AM 9/29/96 -0600, Hard Drive wrote: >Christmas HAS to exist. Christmas *does* exist--it's offical now. I got it from Mr. UP (Unnamed Producer), who I'm not allowed to quote anymore. He said Megakat City does have Christmas, just like the American Christmas--he called it a "Coca-Cola Christmas". You know, commercialized and everything. Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) President of the SWAT Kat Club on Prodigy E-mail me for copies of "The Watcher Files of Chance Furlong" SK/Highlander-spoof fanfiction, due out soon. - ------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiracies we don't know about." -anonymous - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: "H@rd Drive" Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 15:54:04 -0600 Subject: Re: Religions, again At 04:23 PM 9/29/96 -0400, Dr. Samuel Conway wrote: >To say that Katworld must be *exactly* like ours because it is similar >is a pretty weak argument. >Religion is a no-no subject in cartooning today (aside from the >Animaniac's Christmas Special), so we have nothing but conjecture. I didn't want to elaborate, but now I will. Many world cultures would never be remotely similar to the way they are if they didn't have a particular religious influence. I was acknowledging the existance of religions in Katworld. For example, the histories of places like England and Ireland would be totally different, because unlike places like France and Spain, where the Romans took their organized government systems with them, England took massive Roman Catholic missionary campaigns based out of Germany and Ireland sometime in the last millenium to introduce the fundamental ideas of government and principles that made England the way it was. England might have otherwise continued to develop into separate nations, like the way Switzerland, Germany, Denmark and the Netherlands are separate political bodies today. England might have not been able to stick together the way it did when Viking invaders started coming over from Denmark. In addition, the whole reason the Normans invaded England was because one Norman noble wanted the English throne. What if there hadn' been ONE organized English throne to quarrel over? More than 99% of words in English today came from Norman French, AFTER the invasion. My point is that things would be TOTALLY different without the existence of the religions earth had, and the entire western world would be different without Christianity. When it comes to language and system of government, Katworld is just too similar to earth not to also have the same religious history. I did it again. I used my brain, when I was really hoping to keep it a secret. *SIGH* ... I guess that's what happens when you start to study history, geography and linguistics intensively in your spare time. =^^= [snip] Noah Sproat "H@rd Drive" ------------------------------ From: razor@netcom.com (Dana Uehara) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 22:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: More kat stuff Looks like my request for kat-birthdays has been netting me a fairly steady flow of responses. Keep those cards and letters coming, folks! I'll post a list of the October birthday kats around the end of this week or so. Edo asks about episode guides. I know there are a few episode guides floating around the net, including one which I typed up myself from _Toon Magazine_. I'll send it out upon request, or if there's enough requests I'll go ahead and post to the list. JF: Would it be possible that Kats (young teen) would be dying their fur with shades Purple, Blue, etc.? It's possible, tho this certainly wouldn't be as permanent as getting a tattoo as the fur would have to be re-dyed periodically. It's like those hair coloring kits you see in the store. Can you imagine teenage kittens dyeing their fur fluorescent green? Ick. HD: It makes sense that every earth religion would also exist on Katworld, because Katworld is just too similar to earth for them not to exist. Doc Konway's already commented on this, so all I'll add is that there is no evidence of religion in the Kats series except for Volcanus, something like the Hawaiian fire goddess Pele. On the stray thoughts side, probably indicative of a kat who could use a katnap (;-) -- what would the likely "normal" body temperature of a Kat be? Personally, I suspect it'd be something like around 101.5 deg F (around 38 or 39 deg C), since I read somewhere that *cats* have roughly that warm a body temperature. Perhaps having a fur coat has something to do with it. ------------------------------ End of kats-digest V1 #31 *************************