From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 07:52:47 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id HAA14421 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 07:40:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id HAA14416 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 07:40:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tole-cs-2.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-1.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.101]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id HAA00840 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 07:40:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 07:40:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605011140.HAA00840@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Feline Aviation Administration Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Kevin L. Knoles wrote: Kat Nation FAA? > BTW, is there a "FAA" or something like that in the Kat world? There may not be a Kat FAA (Feline Aviation Administration?), at least as far as air traffic control goes. Maybe kats have a different attitude towards risk (my cats definitely do!), and the rules are: watch your own surroundings and instruments, and don't hit anything or anybody! Oh, the airport may have a tower to handle takeoff/landing conflicts, but maybe they rely on their superior reflexes more. My reason for thinking this? MKCity would certainly be a controlled airspace, if there is such a thing in the kat universe. The turbokat zipping around using radar jammers would attract unwelcome attention from the FAA, and they would start to deploy considerable resources to bring it down. (unless you want to write a story about this?) > I specify Kat Nation because the Kat's FAA would probably only be for one >country, whichever one MegaKat City resides in. I still vote for MKCity being a city/state, instead of being located in a country. If there was a 'fed' government, we would probably have seen some references to it. Manx seems to be able to tax the kats at a fairly high level for his development projects, and they're not all shooting back yet. That makes me think that there are no extra levels of taxation, from a nation or state. And you don't see any references to a prez or other national leader. Everyone's plots to take over the world in katdom seem to be aimed at MKCity and Manx. (For comparison, a fairly high number of The Brain's plots are aimed at Washington & the prez, even though the labs probably aren't in Washington.) *************** Paul Kemner pkemner@bright.net if kats didn't accept a high level of risk, MKCity would be empty! *************** From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 08:55:03 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id IAA17861 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:37:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu (rho.ben2.ucla.edu [164.67.131.31]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA17851 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 08:37:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [164.67.22.48] (ts35-3.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.22.48]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id FAA62192 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 05:33:04 -0700 X-Sender: razor@netcom22.netcom.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 05:33:15 -0800 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: Re: kats V1 #227 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net chance: Well, despite what Zed did to [the Metallikats] in "Unlikely Alloys", I'd still like to borrow it to come debug Windoze 95 for me. Failing that, I'll call Mac. Ah, destroy it if you can't repair it? Michael: Maybe a system upgrade would make for an attitude change in [Mac Mange]. Edo: Well, Hackle was planning to do that in "Metal Urgency". Yeah, turn him into a chauffeur and Molly into a maid. Of course, given Mac's driving record (which must be a mile long with the Megakat City DMV)... Edo: OK, is SWAT Kats an anime? *sigh* Could you please take this to personal email from now on? I think we've more than beaten it to death on the list. (I smell another addition for the FAQ here under a new section that I'll call "Frequently Recurring Threads"). Edo: What did Zed do to [the Metallikats in "Unlikely Alloys"]? Well, suffice it to say that he sort of played the role of the Borg (assimilated them, Mac first, then Molly). Zed was able to amass anything made of metal, which he first did with the Metallikat Express, then other tanks and weaponry. Edo: Maybe we should put these partial name titles in the FAQ. Kevin: The FAQ or somewhere else, like the episode guide might be a good place. I'd rather not. The episode guide contains the full titles of the episodes as shown on the episodes when they were aired, which I consider the "official" titles of the episodes. My suggestion on using abbreviations, which I put in the FAQ, is that it's okay to abbreviate an episode as long as you write it out in full first *in the same email message*. I believe some discussion also came up recently about what kinds of weaponry the Glovatrix could fire. From the model sheets of the Kats, which appeared in _Toon Magazine_, there's a note under the construction notes for Jake/Razor: "IMPORTANT -- Launch tubes and grapple unit can fire a *number* of different weapons and devices. Check your *individual show packs* for episode needs." -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia "We're not out of the woods yet! The engines won't restart!" "This is why I hate Plan 'Z'..." -- T-Bone & Razor From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 11:32:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA28812 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:34:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PICA.ARMY.MIL (rosyth.pica.army.mil [129.139.22.25]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA28807 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:34:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 1 May 96 10:31:25 EDT From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: NOTAR Message-ID: <9605011031.aa12786@Fsac5.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>BTW, NOTAR is Hughes/McDonnell-Douglas, not Bell. And no, I don't >>have a Jane's; I just have an attic for a mind, full of all sorts of >>useless stuff :) > >I haven't seen anything in Megakat City skies that correlates, but the one I saw >at the Abbotsford International Airshow this year was very similar to a >Cayuse (or Hughes 500 Defender), but sans tail rotor, and a damn sight quieter >than any other helo I've come across. Strictly speaking it's now McD-D, and not Hughes any more, since the former swallowed up the latter. The OH-6 Cayuse is an H500, now MD500, but the NOTAR is on the evolved MD530 airframe. The Enforcer choppers are undoubtedly simplified for animation purposes, a reasonable shortcut IMHO. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 12:04:45 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA29356 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:40:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id KAA29310 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 10:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME ([203.120.83.158]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA15333 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 22:39:24 +0800 X-Sender: sleet@po.pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: sleet@pacific.net.sg (Leet Wai Leong Simon) Subject: Re: Nachos Unmasked? Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 22:39:24 +0800 Message-ID: <19960501143923.AAA15333@LOCALNAME> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 07:35 PM 4/30/96 -0700, you wrote: > I wrote "SwatKats Unmasked" (and no one voted for me. I'm crushed) I did! I did! I just didn't mail my poll reply to the whole danged list! Just an odd thought here: should't polls just be sent to the person keeping track of them? Seems like a waste of bandwidth to mail your opinions to everyone on the list ... -Simon Leet :) "Figures. All my life, I've fought against imperialism. Now, suddenly, I AM the expanding Russian frontier." "But with very nice borders." Ivanova and Dr. Franklin, Babylon 5 From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 13:14:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA08194 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:54:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id LAA08164 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:54:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.203] (dyn1203a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.203]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id WAA01274 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 22:54:05 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 22:52:45 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Nachos Unmasked? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Andy Hill wrote: >I wrote in the "nachos" based on the >scene in which Jake and Chance are watching Skaredy and eating chips >out of a bowl, and Chance spits 'em all over when laughing at some antic >of Skaredy's on the tube. >From "Metal Urgency", right? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Be seeing you!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 15:29:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id MAA10208 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:31:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id MAA10202 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 12:31:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.203] (dyn1197a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.197]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id XAA03240 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 23:31:40 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 23:30:19 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: NOTAR Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Wed, 1 May 1996, Ed Rudnicki wrote: >The Enforcer choppers are undoubtedly simplified for animation >purposes, a reasonable shortcut IMHO. Just like Callie's business suit? >Ed ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Be seeing you!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 15:36:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA08185 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:54:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id LAA08176 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:54:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.203] (dyn1203a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.203]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id WAA01266 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 22:53:56 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 22:52:39 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: A list of weapons + Blank mail? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Kevin L. Knoles wrote: >There are *millions* of list that we could make! But let just start first by making a list of weapons, Okay? On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Edo Andromedo wrote: >>Hey, every empty message that you post always teach me not to reply that messa >>ge ASAP. On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Kevin L. Knoles wrote: >I never have intentionally posted blank mail, I know. But it's really hard to quote a empty message. ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Be seeing you!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 15:44:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA08263 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:55:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id LAA08258 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:55:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id LAA26628 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.203] (dyn1203a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.203]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id WAA01281 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 22:54:08 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 22:53:00 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Kat stuff Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Kevin L. Knoles wrote: >> OK, is SWAT Kats an anime? >> >> >That's not really helping your case for SWAT Kats as anime, is it? ;-> >> >> I'm not saying that SWAT Kats is an anime, I'm only questioning its status. > >Really? See the above question. I see it. What is SWAT Kats? > Ok, that's about it for me. If you still have questions, just go back and >reread old posts about it because I'm tapped out and really can't think of >anything more to say on the matter. =-> Okay. :) On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Edo Andromedo wrote: >>OK, so why use foreign animators who may not be fluent in English? On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Kevin L. Knoles wrote: >What, reject their talent just because they may not be fluent in English? I'm asking the reason on why they use foreign animators. ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Be seeing you!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 15:46:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id OAA07862 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 14:52:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id OAA07857 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 14:52:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.154] (dyn1154a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.154]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id BAA09536 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 01:52:22 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 01:51:05 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: New Intro. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sun, 28 Apr 1996, LouAllen Wheeler wrote: >Today, I (Jedi Master LouAllen `Louie' Wheeler writes.... >I think that that would be cool, but something really die-hard. Really >a driving beat. Also; if John Williams did the soundtrack for SK, with >the London Symphony Orchestra playing it, what would it sound like? Let >us wonder..... Hmmm, I always wanted to know what will happen if the SWAT Kats's music is done by John Williams, or done in a orchestratrial kind of way. >I'll do a SWATKats version of Star Wars! Yeah, that's it! Finally, a Star Wars story. BTW, I always wanted to know what will happen to the original "Caverns of Horror" if they do it Star Wars style. >Edo, I'll send you a copy when I'm done. Or I'll >send it to Maxie. Or if that doesn't work, I'll send a copy to Terra, >who might post it to Maxie for me. Why don't you just post the story to me, Max, and Terra? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Be seeing you!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 16:01:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA08231 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:55:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id LAA08217 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 11:55:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.203] (dyn1203a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.203]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id WAA01314 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 22:54:28 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 22:53:09 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: kats V1 #226 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Wed, 1 May 1996, Edo Andromedo wrote: >>If they can't go to the beach, do they do their sunbathing activity on the >>roof? On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Kevin L. Knoles wrote: >Why not? Humans sometimes do that, so I guess Kats might as well. Well, my cats do that all the time, and MegaKat seem to have plenty of roofs. >Backyards work well too. Although that backyards is another matter to discuss with. >> Yes, it's a "A Bright and Shiny Future" versus "Bright and Shiny Future" thing >. Which one is the right one? > > Well, it's just an "A" Check the episode to know for sure (I haven't >in awhile, but I think it's with the "A".) Well, it's definetly with an "A". >> In the Animato article that was posted in this list, the episode title was nam >>ed "Bright and Shiny Future". > >If it's really important, maybe the "A" should be added? Three words: Nachos, chance, and canon. >Then again, that's fairly obvious so maybe it wouldn't be a good idea. How about "T.P.A.R.T."? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Be seeing you!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 17:29:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA19577 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 16:54:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net (relay-4.mail.demon.net [158.152.1.108]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA19570 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 16:54:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ak23860; 1 May 96 19:15 GMT Received: from gunk.demon.co.uk ([158.152.14.46]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa04592; 1 May 96 19:27 +0100 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ben Carter Subject: Re: Kat stuff References: <9604302151.AA29624@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> In-Reply-To: <9604302151.AA29624@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 17:47:24 GMT Message-ID: <19960501.174724.34@gunk.demon.co.uk> Organization: You must be joking! X-Mailer: Archimedes TTFN Version 0.36 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net In message <9604302151.AA29624@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> you wrote: [snip] > Because anime status isn't determined by content, just nationality. Here's > an analogy: > > The most mainstream of American comics feature superheroes, and underground > and independent American comics tend not to. The most mainstream of manga > rarely feature superheroes, but some obscure titles do, sort of. You can't > call the American comics that don't feature superheroes manga, and you can't > call the manga that do American comics since certain styles, characteristics, > and genres may be common in each, but what really distinguishes the two is > nationality. > > In Japan animation has been used in some manner for just about every genre > there is. The most mainstream of anime tend to be of certain styles, > characteristics, and genres. Mainstream American animation tends to be youth > orientated/family (G-Rated) musicals. Some anime are similar, but they are > still anime. There are examples of American animation that are rather atypical > in that they are closer to what we see in anime, but what really distinguishes > the two is nationality. Hmmm.. I had an interesting argument about this the other day, with a friend who protested that whilst he'd watch anime, he wouldn't watch UK/US cartoons, because they were "childish". I actually showed him some bits of Swat Kats eps (unfortunately I couldn't find "Deadly Pyramid" ), and he admitted that the animation was good, but he still thought the storyline was aimed at kiddies. (admittedly I didn't have time to show him a full ep.)... He claimed that he wouldn't watch a film or TV program that had a U, or even a PG rating, as he knew that they would be too childish... Whereupon I produced "Hummingbirds" and "Oh My Goddess" - PG and U respectively. Upon further arguing, we worked out why anime seems to be different (apart from the obvious) - It is not written to fit a certain rating. I assume that UK/US studios deliberately think "This needs a U", and then alter the script, animation, ect. to suit. With anime, this doesn't happen, and even if it does get a U certificate, it's usually just coincidence. I suspect that studios deliberately don't push their luck with the ratings system, just in case they get the wrong rating. Er... Did anyone actually read this far? -- Ben Carter +-------------------------------+ A!JW21 WAR+++ R&R+++++ SL- PP! Df $+ |Formerly c.carter@ulst.ac.uk...| TRita E10 PonSadMeal XTakeYou A16 GM |... now ben@gunk.demon.co.uk! | +-------------------------------+ "Quick! Extra boiling oil!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 17:56:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA21021 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:20:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id RAA21014 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:20:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from net-6-186.austin.eden.com (net-6-186.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.186]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA23078 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 16:20:37 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 16:20:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199605012120.QAA23078@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Fanfics ... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Uh ... he's fine, just on a permanent holiday until I get my exams over with >by the end of the year. His story is gonna take a lotta time to start (not >to mention finish ...) so any folks out there waiting to read some fanfic >from me: Don't hold your breath! Oh, NOW you tell us. (I can just see some poor unfortunate turning blue as they read this . . . ) >On the topic of fanfics, how many of you out there are actually writing >something at the moment? All the fanfic seems to be trickling in to the >Maxie site and I was wondering if there was still any activity going on in >that area. I'm trying to write! Truly I am, suh! However, it's gonna take time. ANd since I just got through my TAAS tests (I'm in Texas, remember?) and I'm having trouble getting to the best part. It's a vampire story too. (Figures. ) =F C'mon, all of ya out there, write something!!!! >-Simon Leet :) Terra Chang "Childhood is short and maturity is forever." --Calvin & Hobbes ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I've got PLENTY of common sense . . . I just choose to ignore it." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 18:10:25 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA21627 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:25:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id RAA21622 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:25:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from net-6-186.austin.eden.com (net-6-186.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.186]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA23442 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 16:25:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 16:25:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199605012125.QAA23442@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Nachos Unmasked? X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Gee...Eudora must be hungry. It's chowed an awful lot of posts recently. What? Have you been forgetting to feed your computer? >Anyway, Kats and Nachos. When I wrote "SwatKats Unmasked" (and >no one voted for me. I'm crushed), Do you mean in my little fanfic poll? If you do, you are very mistaken. Lotsa people liked you, you were either first or second favorite of many people (me included. I liked "T-Bone's Stakes" best, but before it came out, your's was my favorite.) Lemme see if I can drag up that list and I'll send it to you, okay? >I wrote in the "nachos" based on the >scene in which Jake and Chance are watching Skaredy and eating chips >out of a bowl, and Chance spits 'em all over when laughing at some antic >of Skaredy's on the tube. You'll remember the scene - Burke and Murray >roll up shortly afterward. Don't they always? _____________________________________________________ >"Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed > antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, > through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in > the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" >_____________________________________________________ (This is off-topic, but I saw that movie finally! I liked it. ) Terra Chang "Childhood is short and maturity is forever." --Calvin & Hobbes ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I've got PLENTY of common sense . . . I just choose to ignore it." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 18:22:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA22339 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:37:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA22322 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:37:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA55906; Wed, 1 May 1996 16:37:04 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605012137.AA55906@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Kat stuff To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 16:37:03 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at May 1, 96 10:53:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > I'm asking the reason on why they use foreign animators. > > Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id From what I understand, the practice of using foreign animators started in the 70's since they were cheaper, and in the case of Japanese studios such as Mook, I think that's best because they appear better (Than American animation studios) too. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 18:30:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA26176 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:06:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vega.mps.com.br (mps.com.br [200.238.190.34]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA26171 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:06:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [200.238.190.65] by vega.mps.com.br with SMTP (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA11640; Wed, 1 May 1996 19:09:40 -0300 Message-Id: <3187D3FD.745E@mps.com.br> Date: Wed, 01 May 1996 19:13:33 -0200 From: "Artur T. Hara" Organization: mps.com.br X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: NOTAR References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Edo Andromedo wrote: > > On Wed, 1 May 1996, Ed Rudnicki wrote: > >The Enforcer choppers are undoubtedly simplified for animation > >purposes, a reasonable shortcut IMHO. > > Just like Callie's business suit? > What is other color possible to Callie's suit?? -- Artur T. Hara hara@mps.com.br ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit the Kats site: http://rat.org/razor Visit the 3D design magazine: http://www.3dartist.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 18:42:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA27066 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:27:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA27056 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:27:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA45200; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:26:35 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605012226.AA45200@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Word from TCN about the video quality To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 17:26:35 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199605010300.UAA25698@unix.infoserve.net> from "chance" at Apr 30, 96 08:00:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Cool that they wrote back so fast, huh? They're actually talking about the > film stock deteriorating in the H-B vaults, not the vidstuff used in the day-t o-day > broadcast. Tedco has been restoring some cartoons (that Avery stuff comes to > mind), and this is likely what they figured you were asking about. No, as the letter which I originally wrote specified, I was asking avout the *video* quality and that's what they replied about. I understand that the prints are sometimes restored, that was ancillary info in their response. My point is that the video made in the here and now, especially of Kats, need not be allowed to deteriorate. There are ways around that. TCN does what they can with what they are given, but Turner's evidentally too cheap to use a lossless medium for the broadcasts. I guess that means the Kats on TCN will just get worse and worse, but then you know after a point they're going to have to do something, right? Sure hope so. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 18:44:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA22206 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:34:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id RAA22201 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from net-6-186.austin.eden.com (net-6-186.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.186]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA24300 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 16:33:55 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 16:33:55 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199605012133.QAA24300@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: New Intro. X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >On Sun, 28 Apr 1996, LouAllen Wheeler wrote: >>Today, I (Jedi Master LouAllen `Louie' Wheeler writes.... >>I think that that would be cool, but something really die-hard. Really >>a driving beat. Also; if John Williams did the soundtrack for SK, with >>the London Symphony Orchestra playing it, what would it sound like? Let >>us wonder..... > >Hmmm, I always wanted to know what will happen if the SWAT Kats's music is done by John Williams, or done in a orchestratrial kind of way. Hey! Maybe i can get a part in the orchestra if it does! (I'm second chair first violin in my school. ) >>I'll do a SWATKats version of Star Wars! Yeah, that's it! > >Finally, a Star Wars story. > >BTW, I always wanted to know what will happen to the original "Caverns of Horror" if they do it Star Wars style. > >>Edo, I'll send you a copy when I'm done. Or I'll >>send it to Maxie. Or if that doesn't work, I'll send a copy to Terra, >>who might post it to Maxie for me. > >Why don't you just post the story to me, Max, and Terra? Yeah, that would be a good idea. That way, in case I can't, Edo can send it, if he can't, I probably can, and if you send it to Max, well, then me and Edo both get our very own personal copies of your story!! >------------------------------------- >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >"Be seeing you!" Terra Chang "Childhood is short and maturity is forever." --Calvin & Hobbes ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I've got PLENTY of common sense . . . I just choose to ignore it." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 19:04:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA26250 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:08:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA26243 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:08:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AB83908; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:08:42 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605012208.AB83908@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Another anime parallel To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 17:08:42 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <19960501.174724.34@gunk.demon.co.uk> from "Ben Carter" at May 1, 96 05:47:24 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > animation was good, but he still thought the storyline was aimed at kiddies. > (admittedly I didn't have time to show him a full ep.)... He claimed that If he didn't see a full ep, how could he judge the storyline? Think about all the clips from anime that might lead one to conclude the program as a whole was aimed at kiddies. He sounds a little too bias and should try to take a look at the big picture. SWAT Kats as it stands "works" best in about the same age group ranges or higher than Ronin Warriors, Robotech, Sailor Moon, Drogon Ball, Starblazers and I guess Teknoman (Haven't seen it so I can't be certain.), to name a few prominent anime from American TV. It sounds as if your friend was kind of picking and choosing examples to fit his argument. > and "Oh My Goddess" - PG and U respectively. Upon further arguing, we worked > out why anime seems to be different (apart from the obvious) - It is not > written to fit a certain rating. I assume that UK/US studios deliberately > think "This needs a U", and then alter the script, animation, ect. to suit. > With anime, this doesn't happen, and even if it does get a U certificate, it' > usually just coincidence. I suspect that studios deliberately don't push thei > luck with the ratings system, just in case they get the wrong rating. Exactly. Though much talk about anime being "better" than US/UK animation sometimes gets a little carried away by the fanatics, there is a basic core of truth to it. One of the reasons is that the creators of anime set out to create the program with little regard for what might later be dumbed down or edited. They're given such a wide expanse of creator control that it's really not any wonder that so many TV anime are so good. Isn't it ironic that in the US and UK the regulations intended to "protect" children by censoring and kiddifying the content of animation really only serve to lessen the product? SWAT Kats is similar to anime in that having apearred to escaped the wrath of BS&P many a time and the writers choosing to not reduce it to simplemindedness, it works on the same level. I only wish there were more shows done as well. > Er... Did anyone actually read this far? I sure did, a few times. > Ben Carter |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 19:26:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA29530 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:53:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA29523 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:53:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA60620; Wed, 1 May 1996 17:53:05 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605012253.AA60620@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Feline Aviation Administration To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 17:53:04 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199605011140.HAA00840@brutus.bright.net> from "Paul Kemner" at May 1, 96 07:40:03 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > There may not be a Kat FAA (Feline Aviation Administration?), at least as > far as air traffic control goes. Maybe kats have a different attitude They'd *have* to have something. You can't have an organized aviation industry without one. Yeah, I guess I'm kinda aswering my own question here. > My reason for thinking this? MKCity would certainly be a controlled > airspace, if there is such a thing in the kat universe. The turbokat zipping > around using radar jammers would attract unwelcome attention from the FAA, > and they would start to deploy considerable resources to bring it down. > (unless you want to write a story about this?) Don't the Enforcers already do that? Or perhaps efforts to stop them have led to disasters, so they no longer really bother? (And that *would* make a good story.) > > I specify Kat Nation because the Kat's FAA would probably only be for one > >country, whichever one MegaKat City resides in. > > I still vote for MKCity being a city/state, instead of being located in a > country. If there was a 'fed' government, we would probably have seen some > references to it. Manx seems to be able to tax the kats at a fairly high Well, I haven't seen anything indicating that just because a city-state exists it can't be part of a country. The USA is organized into states, just imagine a small one with a *huge* population and you've got something like MK City. > level for his development projects, and they're not all shooting back yet. > That makes me think that there are no extra levels of taxation, from a > nation or state. And you don't see any references to a prez or other The notion of MegaKat City being a city-state is one I like but it brings up tons of little questions like this. I'd say even though it's part of a country, its fairly separate in matters of taxation and military concerns. > national leader. Everyone's plots to take over the world in katdom seem to > be aimed at MKCity and Manx. (For comparison, a fairly high number of The > Brain's plots are aimed at Washington & the prez, even though the labs > probably aren't in Washington.) I'm not so certain that there's been enough episodes to address irrelelvant things like that. I could just be that MK City is so big and so important and that the federal government is such a small body in the Kat nation that capturing, destroying, taking over the capital would mean little for the relatively seperate city-states. Sure, I say MK City is a city-state, but the country it resides must be organized in a radically different manner than our own. And wouldn't the existence of an airport with what looks like SST's somehow suggest a country? Boy, this keeps on bringing up more and more questions. > Paul Kemner |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 19:54:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA02472 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 19:40:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA02467 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 19:40:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA84276; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:40:38 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605012340.AA84276@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Ep abbreviations To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 18:40:38 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at May 1, 96 10:53:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >Then again, that's fairly obvious so maybe it wouldn't be a good idea. > > How about "T.P.A.R.T."? > > Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id Nah, who wants to type all those periods? Just use common sense when abbreviating an episode title - All the letters at the beginning of the words in the title make up the letters in the abbreviation. That also means if an ep's title has lower case letters at the beginning of any words in it, then the abbreviation should have those same lower case letters: NotD for Night of the Dark Kat, and note that I'm making abbreviating Dark Kat as one word for further simplicity. So much for super analyzing the obvious (Emphasis on the "anal" part)... |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 20:15:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA03911 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 19:47:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA03903 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 19:47:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA10960; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:47:03 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605012347.AA10960@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: NOTAR To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 18:47:02 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at May 1, 96 11:30:19 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Wed, 1 May 1996, Ed Rudnicki wrote: >The Enforcer choppers are undoubtedly simplified for animation >purposes, a reasonable shortcut IMHO. > >Ed I'm not so certain that's a reason, they seemed to have no problem animating the main rotors and I think the tail rotor would just be an extra bit on the same cel. SWAT Kats has such high production values that I think they could pull off an extra bit liek that without any difficulty. Didn't Chopshop's chopper have a tail rotor? (I'm afraid it's been awhile since I've seen SWAT Kats Unplugged.) Even if it didn't with such a complex designs nad such sleek animation, tail rotor animation would not be a luxury. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 20:27:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA05053 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 19:53:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA05046 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 19:52:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA31922; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:52:55 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605012352.AA31922@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: New Intro. To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 18:52:55 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at May 2, 96 01:51:05 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >a driving beat. Also; if John Williams did the soundtrack for SK, with > >the London Symphony Orchestra playing it, what would it sound like? Let > >us wonder..... > > Hmmm, I always wanted to know what will happen if the SWAT Kats's music is don e by John Williams, or done in a orchestratrial kind of way. Ooh, that would be great! Provided that it was just done in addition to the regular music, and not as a replacement that is. One of many tracks on the SWAT Kats CD soundtrack, which I'd really want to see. Say, is the theme heard duringthe opening and the credits the *exact* same, or are there subtle differences? (besides the presence of sound FX, that is) > Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 20:36:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA05360 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 20:03:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA05355 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 20:03:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA53030; Wed, 1 May 1996 19:03:06 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605020003.AA53030@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: kats V1 #226 To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 19:03:06 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199605010207.TAA23243@unix.infoserve.net> from "chance" at Apr 30, 96 07:07:20 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >it all the time. And why isn't the FAQ updated, you might ask? Because > >I'm waiting for an answer from Kevin, who in turn is waiting from chance, > >so... ;-) > > Huh...wha???? If someone rang the doorbell, I > missed it. Well, I'm terrible in that I desperately want to keep all of my suggestions together in one piece of E-mail. I just need a tiny bit more info, which I asked about in the last message, and then I'll send it to Razor. I didn't bother mentioning FAQ inclusion when I asked, maybe I should have. Upset that the FAQ hasn't been updated? Just blame me for being stubborn and keeping Razor waiting. > (BTW, loved the story of the "will work for food" pic. I'd love to see a copy > of that if at all possible.) Same here. Any other Kat cartoons? (static, not animated) |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 21:48:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA11296 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 21:39:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA11291 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 21:39:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d151.infoserve.net [199.175.157.151]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA18058 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:41:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 18:41:25 -0700 Message-Id: <199605020141.SAA18058@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Jealousy Unmasked? (Heh.) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Gee...Eudora must be hungry. It's chowed an awful lot of posts recently. > >What? Have you been forgetting to feed your computer? I've put Windoze on a strict diet of important files and stuff I actually intended to, you know, keep or some junk. I think we've arrived at a truce. >Do you mean in my little fanfic poll? If you do, you are very mistaken. >Lotsa people liked you, you were either first or second favorite of many >people (me included. I liked "T-Bone's Stakes" best, but before it came out, >your's was my favorite.) Lemme see if I can drag up that list and I'll send >it to you, okay? Cool. I was only kidding, actually. I've developed a pretty thick hide from being on the net, and though I never told him this, Simon's a darn good writer - I most certainly don't mind coming in second overall in this particular race. (I think I missed first because I chew way too much gum. Yeah...that must be it (Singapore Grin!). >(This is off-topic, but I saw that movie finally! I liked it. ) Two things have blown me away in the character department within the last few years. SwatKats is one, and Balto would be the other. I've downloaded something like sixty posts from the net on that particular flick, and someone from the 'Balto' crew requested a copy for the rest of the gang to read. Cool, huh? _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 22:07:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA12921 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 21:53:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA12903 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 21:52:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d151.infoserve.net [199.175.157.151]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA18930 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 18:55:13 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 18:55:13 -0700 Message-Id: <199605020155.SAA18930@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Kat stuff Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Ben "I'm not a Mad Cow..honest!" Carter wrote: > Hmmm.. I had an interesting argument about this the other day, with a friend . Upon further arguing, we worked > out why anime seems to be different (apart from the obvious) - It is not > written to fit a certain rating. I assume that UK/US studios deliberately > think "This needs a U", and then alter the script, animation, ect. to suit. To quote a favourite Kat: "Bingo!". Yeah, this is exactly what happens - especially in feature films. They remove certain scenes to avoid being placed in a dreaded category, or change the concept work to reflect the rules of the category they wish to be classified under before shooting a single frame. Most animated features are designed to be "G" for "General" (assumedly a rough approximation of your "U") and this is probably why we don't have an awful lot of anime available on our local video shelves ("It's hard to keep that stuff around because of all the outraged parents" - Blockbuster), 'cuz all the parents are so used to believing that everything animated in a white clamshell case is "safe" for little Sarah and Jonny Goodgrades. "SwatKats" (and to some extent "Gargoyles" and "BTAS") all hinted at the next level of domestic animated series, but stopped short of achieving it. On the other end of the spectrum, I think some of Ralph Bakshi's more "moderate" things like "Lord of the Rings" etc. hit some N. American screens under a "PG" rating. That's equivalent to lining up pallbearers. > Er... Did anyone actually read this far? Sure...I ignored all the spam on a.t.a. just so's I could get at your post here! _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 1 22:32:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA14474 for kats-ll; Wed, 1 May 1996 22:09:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA14462 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 22:09:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d151.infoserve.net [199.175.157.151]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA19590 for ; Wed, 1 May 1996 19:11:21 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 May 1996 19:11:21 -0700 Message-Id: <199605020211.TAA19590@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: NOTAR Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Strictly speaking it's now McD-D, and not Hughes any more, since the >former swallowed up the latter. The OH-6 Cayuse is an H500, now >MD500, but the NOTAR is on the evolved MD530 airframe. Yep, but all the Hollywood types here put 'em all in the same nutshell with the rather broad comment: "Hell..they all look the same with heavily armed Swat guys standin' on the skids!" Which is why you see so many Twin Hueys in early 'Nam pictures. Time Tunnel in action. >The Enforcer choppers are undoubtedly simplified for animation >purposes, a reasonable shortcut IMHO. Some of those katchoppers remind me a bit of the "Screamin' Mimi" Sikorsky piston-engined things from the late fifties-early sixties. I think it's the general shape of the nose rather than anything more specific. (Man, we just sold all our OH-58 Kiowas to the same folks that bought all our old CH-47's: The Netherlands!) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 04:43:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id EAA01430 for kats-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 04:20:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu (rho.ben2.ucla.edu [164.67.131.31]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id EAA01425 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 04:20:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [164.67.20.107] (ts17-14.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.20.107]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id AAA76494 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 00:57:12 -0700 X-Sender: razor@netcom22.netcom.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 00:57:23 -0800 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: From Megakat City Salvage Yard... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net ... in other words, junk. ;-) A few notes on some stuff: if you can, please try to consolidate your posts into a single one (rather than several separate ones) as much as possible. Two or three posts replying to listmail is fine, but nine or ten in a row to the list gets kind of ridiculous, if you ask me. I moved someone from the list to the digest for this very reason. Also, re: the "WILL WORK FOR FOOD" pic -- email me if you want a copy of the pic. I will not, however, be uploading the pic; please do not ask me to do so. Kevin: Though much talk about anime being "better" than US/UK animation sometimes gets a little carried away by the fanatics, there is a basic core of truth to it. Basic, yes. Absolute, no. I've seen my share of bad anime (although I can't think of any specific titles since I'm not much of an anime fan) as well as good US/UK animation (the Kats, Mighty Max, Batman and Gargoyles, to name a few). SWAT Kats is similar to anime in that having apearred to escaped the wrath of BS&P many a time and the writers choosing to not reduce it to simplemindedness. Unfortunately, this is what seems to have been the Kats' undoing. One scene that comes to mind is from "Caverns of Horror," but I won't spoil it for anyone who hasn't seen the episode yet. Suffice it to say, however, that I think BS&P would not only have had a fit, but the scene itself may have prompted Ted Turner to can the series. -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia "We're not out of the woods yet! The engines won't restart!" "This is why I hate Plan 'Z'..." -- T-Bone & Razor From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 09:34:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id JAA21549 for kats-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:17:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id JAA21543 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 09:17:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME ([203.120.82.223]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA12537 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:17:27 +0800 X-Sender: sleet@po.pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: sleet@pacific.net.sg (Leet Wai Leong Simon) Subject: Of Mook and Kats ... Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 21:17:27 +0800 Message-ID: <19960502131725.AAA12537@LOCALNAME> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Recently came across some of Mook's earlier work on a Malaysian channel recently called "Adventures of T-Rex" I believe about 5 crime-fighting dinosaurs with neat gadgets and stuff (Huh! What'll they think of next? Cats?!) closer to the bad humour vein of TMNT rather than SK. I think that was circa 1992 or so ... so folks interested in Mook's work might wanna check it out (It's not fantastic though) On a totally unrelated note, I just found out why cats are supposed to be nuts over catnip while doing some reading up for my bio today: It turns them on! Apparently the herb exudes a chemical which triggers the same response as sexual stimuli in cats, both domestic and large. Kinda explains why the stuff seems to be a controlled substance in MK City huh? ;) (I think "The Metallikats" opening sequence was about a Katnip deal ...) -Simon Leet :) "Figures. All my life, I've fought against imperialism. Now, suddenly, I AM the expanding Russian frontier." "But with very nice borders." Ivanova and Dr. Franklin, Babylon 5 From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 13:49:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAB10865 for kats-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:07:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id NAA10841 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:07:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.207] (dyn1207a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.207]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id AAA14506 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:07:18 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 00:05:57 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Music. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Thu, 2 May 1996, Edo Andromedo wrote: >>Hmmm, I always wanted to know what will happen if the SWAT Kats's music is >>done by John Williams, or done in a orchestratrial kind of way. On Wed, 1 May 1996, Kevin L. Knoles wrote: > Ooh, that would be great! An orchestratrial music as the intro music for a SWAT Kats movie would be nice. >Provided that it was just done in addition to >the regular music, and not as a replacement that is. Why replace a good thing? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Be seeing you!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 14:02:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA10866 for kats-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:07:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id NAA10855 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:07:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.207] (dyn1207a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.207]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id AAA14514 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:07:21 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 00:06:02 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Ep abbreviations Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Wed, 1 May 1996, Edo Andromedo wrote: >> How about "T.P.A.R.T."? On Wed, 1 May 1996, Kevin L. Knoles wrote: > Nah, who wants to type all those periods? Somebody will. And somebody will also be confuse on what "T.P.A.R.T." means. The same also goes for "NotD". I think that Razor's suggestion on abbreviating episode titles is a good idea. Just say what episode that you are talking first, then you can abbreviate that episode title for the rest of the message. ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Be seeing you!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 14:10:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA12097 for kats-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:13:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id NAA12092 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:13:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id NAA17702 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:07:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.207] (dyn1207a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.207]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id AAA14518 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:07:26 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 00:06:08 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: NOTAR Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Wed, 1 May 1996, Ed Rudnicki wrote: >>The Enforcer choppers are undoubtedly simplified for animation >>purposes, a reasonable shortcut IMHO. On Wed, 1 May 1996, Kevin L. Knoles wrote: > I'm not so certain that's a reason, they seemed to have no problem >animating the main rotors and I think the tail rotor would just be an extra >bit on the same cel. Which one that we are talking here? Hanho Heung-Up or Mook? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Be seeing you!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 14:20:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA10860 for kats-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:07:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id NAB10823 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:07:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.207] (dyn1207a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.207]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id AAA14502 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:07:14 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 00:05:55 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Nachos Unmasked? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 07:35 PM 4/30/96 -0700, Andy Hill wrote: >> I wrote "SwatKats Unmasked" (and no one voted for me. I'm crushed) At Wed, 1 May 1996 22:39:24 +0800, Simon Leet wrote: >I did! I did! I just didn't mail my poll reply to the whole danged list! And I'm sure that somebody out there too also vote for you, Andy. >Just an odd thought here: should't polls just be sent to the person keeping >track of them? Seems like a waste of bandwidth to mail your opinions to >everyone on the list ... Of course unless that you have something to say for the list. >-Simon Leet :) Okay, speaking of bandwidth, is there somekind of Computer Network in MegaKat? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Be seeing you!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 14:25:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA10861 for kats-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:07:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id NAA10827 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:07:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.207] (dyn1207a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.207]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id AAA14498 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:07:11 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 00:05:51 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: FAA and MASA Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Tue, 30 Apr 1996, Kevin L. Knoles wrote: > I don't really know any more about this than Edo does, but since we saw an >airliner in Cry Turmoil, The airliner look like it was design for a supersonic flight, when do the kats broke the sound barrier anyway? >the news chopper, and there's MASA, I guess there'd >have to be one - The Enforcer Air division in itself wouldn't be enough. Well, they got to have a FAA or some sort, they have an airport, right? What is in an airport? Planes! lots of them! And they must be organize by someone. Of course I have no doubt that they will call it MAA or something like that, since that they already put in MASA. BTW, is MASA belong to MegaKat or to someone else? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Be seeing you!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 14:37:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA12728 for kats-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:27:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id NAA12721 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:27:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.207] (dyn1207a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.207]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id AAA15550 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:27:37 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 00:26:18 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Only Felina? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Is there any other female Enforcer besides Felina? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Be seeing you!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 14:52:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA13166 for kats-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:37:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PICA.ARMY.MIL (rosyth.pica.army.mil [129.139.22.25]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA13161 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 13:37:22 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 2 May 96 13:33:50 EDT From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: NOTAR Message-ID: <9605021333.aa14091@Fsac5.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Strictly speaking it's now McD-D, and not Hughes any more, since the >>former swallowed up the latter. The OH-6 Cayuse is an H500, now >>MD500, but the NOTAR is on the evolved MD530 airframe. > >Yep, but all the Hollywood types here put 'em all in the same nutshell with >the rather broad comment: > >"Hell..they all look the same with heavily armed Swat guys standin' on the skids!" > >Which is why you see so many Twin Hueys in early 'Nam pictures. Time Tunnel >in action. More like they think nobody notices :) Like the pinhead reporters referring to the 122mm BM-21 rockets being fired by Hezbollah as "Katyushas". >>The Enforcer choppers are undoubtedly simplified for animation >>purposes, a reasonable shortcut IMHO. > >Some of those katchoppers remind me a bit of the "Screamin' Mimi" >Sikorsky piston-engined things from the late fifties-early sixties. I think >it's the general shape of the nose rather than anything more specific. You thought so too, eh? They really fit better stylistically in the MKC world, with its Fiftyish cars. Makes the "modern" TurboKat stand out that much more. >(Man, we just sold all our OH-58 Kiowas to the same folks that bought all our > old CH-47's: The Netherlands!) Yeah, but they're buying new AH-64s too, which P.O.ed the French and Germans to no end :) Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 20:18:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA12907 for kats-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 19:38:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA12900 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 19:38:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA11841; Thu, 2 May 1996 19:44:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 19:44:42 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Metallikats... where does ted keep these sk tapes anyway? In-Reply-To: <199604300135.VAA07618@ns.halifax.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Mon, 29 Apr 1996, Brother Buford wrote: > I had the same problem, and I was trying to RECORD IT! > The screwed up video/audio is now part of my video collection. > Don't you just love Ted "I want everyone to love each other and watch my > channels as I take over the entire world" Turner?! I WAS RECORDING IT TOO!!!! And now it's a part of my collection! A.J. Freda From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 21:11:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA19159 for kats-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:54:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id UAA19154 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:54:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id UAA02668 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:32:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d141.infoserve.net [199.175.157.141]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA08132 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 17:35:28 -0700 Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 17:35:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199605030035.RAA08132@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Ep abbreviations Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >On Wed, 1 May 1996, Edo Andromedo wrote: >>> How about "T.P.A.R.T."? > >On Wed, 1 May 1996, Kevin L. Knoles wrote: >> Nah, who wants to type all those periods? > >Somebody will. And somebody will also be confuse on what "T.P.A.R.T." means. The same also goes for "NotD". > >I think that Razor's suggestion on abbreviating episode titles is a good idea. Just say what episode that you are talking first, then you can abbreviate that episode title for the rest of the message. The "WoDK" type notation is used by practically every fan-group I can think of irrespective of the type of program/book it/they cater to. Look on rec.arts. animation and the myriad Disney groups for further illustration. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 21:26:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA19776 for kats-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA19767 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:07:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA109382; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:07:02 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605030107.AA109382@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Of Mook and Kats ... To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 20:07:02 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <19960502131725.AAA12537@LOCALNAME> from "Leet Wai Leong Simon" at May 2, 96 09:17:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Recently came across some of Mook's earlier work on a Malaysian channel > recently called "Adventures of T-Rex" I believe about 5 crime-fighting > dinosaurs with neat gadgets and stuff (Huh! What'll they think of next? > Cats?!) closer to the bad humour vein of TMNT rather than SK. I think that > was circa 1992 or so ... so folks interested in Mook's work might wanna > check it out (It's not fantastic though) What, Mook did that? I only saw one episode and I never thought to check the credits. Makes sense since the animation was fairly right on for what it must have been budgetted at, no immediate flaws in how it was animated as contrasted with how it should have been (Like Pizza Cats, ya know.) I've been curious as to what stuff Mook has done, particularly when it comes to anime. I know they contributed to Akira, did almost all of the 1/2 hour AEon Flux, the opening to Ultraforce, some of Street Sharks, and I think they're doing the new JQ (Thanks to their Kats work from what I've been told.) and possibly Spawn, but I haven't done enough digging to uncover more of their work. If anyone knows what else they've done, please E-mail me with a list since we don't want to bore the others and this is a bit off topic anyway. > -Simon Leet :) |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 21:40:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA20360 for kats-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:19:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA20355 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:19:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA110018; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:19:14 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605030119.AA110018@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Sound Barrier, Names, and the MAA To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 20:19:14 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at May 3, 96 00:05:51 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > The airliner look like it was design for a supersonic flight, when do the kats broke the sound barrier anyway? Yeah, since the Kats' history is clearly quite different than our own, then when would an historic event such as breaking the sound barrier occur? Within a few years of the last Megawar as it was with us, earlier, or later? And what do you 'spose the name of test pilot was? Since Chuck Yaeger is sort of taken as the early names for T-Bone and Razor, then I don't think it could/should be a variation of his name. And that makes me wonder, how did the names T-Bone and Razor come about both on the show and in real life? They're obviously good, descriptive names, but I'd like to know the origins - When did the creators, I guess the Tremblays, come up with them and why, and why and how on the show did Chance and Jake choose them? > Of course I have no doubt that they will call it MAA or something like that, s ince that they already put in MASA. Of course, good point. > BTW, is MASA belong to MegaKat or to someone else? I have no idea. More argumentation for or against the existence of a Kat nation with a federal government. > Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 21:59:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA20989 for kats-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:32:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA20984 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:32:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA48796; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:32:05 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605030132.AA48796@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: NOTAR animation To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 20:32:05 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at May 3, 96 00:06:08 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > > I'm not so certain that's a reason, they seemed to have no problem > >animating the main rotors and I think the tail rotor would just be an extra > >bit on the same cel. > > Which one that we are talking here? Hanho Heung-Up or Mook? Either really, animation just doesn't seem like an issue, and I the chopper designs likely weren't made in consideration of how good the studio was anyway. > Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 22:09:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA21052 for kats-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:35:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA21046 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id VAA11393 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:35:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA107970; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:35:28 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605030135.AA107970@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Only Felina? To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 20:35:28 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at May 3, 96 00:26:18 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Is there any other female Enforcer besides Felina? > > Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id Yep. I can't immediately recall seeing any, but I'm sure there are. But then we are talking about *my* memeory here. It would seem a bit sexist to not have shown any others. I betcha the percentage of Female enforcers is similar to that of the US military. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 2 22:20:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA20878 for kats-ll; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:29:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA20873 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id VAA10668 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:29:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA24270; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:29:09 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605030129.AA24270@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Kat Web? To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 20:29:09 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at May 3, 96 00:05:55 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > And I'm sure that somebody out there too also vote for you, Andy. Like me =-> > Okay, speaking of bandwidth, is there somekind of Computer Network in MegaKat? There'd have to be (as I said for an organized aviation adminstration). Since, as it's been speculated before, the Kats have a much more technologically advanced society than our own, surely they'd have a very developed internet and web, right? You gotta figure it'd be several times larger than our own. But there's also the matter of the nature of the organization of Kat society that might make it larger or smaller. Would a nation of city-states, if that's what it is, have a larger or smaller system, assuming equal technological advancement to keep things simple. Hmmm...I'm gonna go surfing for the Scardey Kat and Enforcer home pages right now ;-> > Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 00:40:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id AAA19856 for kats-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:21:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id AAA19773 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 00:21:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id VAA12158 for ; Thu, 2 May 1996 21:41:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA80340; Thu, 2 May 1996 20:41:16 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605030141.AA80340@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Music. To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 2 May 1996 20:41:16 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at May 3, 96 00:05:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > An orchestratrial music as the intro music for a SWAT Kats movie would be nice From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 11:50:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA09970 for kats-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:30:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA09947 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 11:30:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d142.infoserve.net [199.175.157.142]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA00333 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 07:11:37 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 07:11:37 -0700 Message-Id: <199605031411.HAA00333@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: "Bring me Chopper Backup!" (turbines if you please...I wanna live!) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Ed wrote: >More like they think nobody notices :) Like the pinhead reporters >referring to the 122mm BM-21 rockets being fired by Hezbollah as >"Katyushas". That, and after "Rambo III", every Soviet Helicopter - regardless of size - was automatically a "Hind". >You thought so too, eh? They really fit better stylistically in the >MKC world, with its Fiftyish cars. Makes the "modern" TurboKat stand >out that much more. Yeah, a lot like BTAS with its Art Deco steam-trains in stark contrast to the high-tech Batmobile. Feral's standard Smashemencrashem chopper reminds me a lot of a Sik that I saw modified as a "camper" in an outdoors show many moons ago. You get the same impression of "all nose", but that side-door is probably another dead-giveaway. Definitely un- UH-1 like. 'Sides, if they *are* piston-engined aircraft a la Piasecki and Sikorsky - well, it helps explain why Megakat City is rather prone to aluminum rain. (Mebbe MCPD would be interested in some of our Labradors and Sea Kings?) >>(Man, we just sold all our OH-58 Kiowas to the same folks that bought all our >> old CH-47's: The Netherlands!) > >Yeah, but they're buying new AH-64s too, which P.O.ed the French and >Germans to no end :) Good. MBB certainly doesn't need any more money. Oh yeah, and since our Labs are doing the Commander Feral thing with increasing regularity, guess what we've just decided to do? Purchase surplus Chinooks off the USMC to replace the Labs. The self-same 47's that we just sold to the Dutch as "beyond current requirements". Grrr. I wish they were spending Manx's money and not mine. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 17:41:52 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA11048 for kats-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 17:07:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id RAA11042 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 17:07:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from net-2-077.austin.eden.com (net-2-077.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.77]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA22885 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 16:07:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 16:07:47 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199605032107.QAA22885@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Miscellanous junk X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Okay, first thing I wanted to say: Johnny Quest is leaving Cartoon Network!! I don't know if anyone else saw this, but they're showing these promos that say stuff like: "Dr. Zinn's dream has come true . . . Johnny Quest is leaving," and what not. =P Second thing: I remember a post to alt.tv.swatkats (and yes, I mean the newsgroup itself, not the mailing list) saying of the different places where you can see the voice behind the kat, so to speak. I remember something about Tres MacNellie appearing in some "Cheers" episode, and something about Barry Gordon, Charlie Alder, Candi Milo, and finally, Lori Allen. Now, I know that SWAT Kats doesn't appear on Nick, and many of y'all probably already know this, but if you go and watch an episode of "AHH! Real Monsters," at the end they show this "Nick Clip" where they go backstage to meet the people behind the three monsters. One of them's Charlie Alder. You get to see what he looks like, even tho they interview someone else. It's really cool. (And if the newbies don't know who Charlie Alder is, shame on them!!) =) Three: Thanx to all of you who answered my poll! It helped a lot. (Fer me, anyway. ;) ) And I'd like to add one (or maybe two) more question to the poll: Does anyone want to see cross-overs done? (I know Jedi Master Wheeler doin' some sorta Star Wars spoof, but that's about it.) Any other things you think SK would make a good cross-over with? Okay, I think that's all. But hmmmmm . . . I might think of something later. Bye! Terra Chang "I've got PLENTY of common sense . . . I just choose to ignore it." --Calvin & Hobbes `````````````````````````````` Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional. `````````````````````````````` "Childhood is short and maturity is forever." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 3 21:41:59 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA00797 for kats-ll; Fri, 3 May 1996 21:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (root@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA00792 for ; Fri, 3 May 1996 21:29:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from JHWS9.aca.ilstu.edu by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA76650; Fri, 3 May 1996 20:28:52 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 May 1996 20:28:52 -0500 Message-Id: <9605040128.AA76650@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> X-Sender: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: "Kevin L. Knoles" Subject: Re: Music. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> An orchestratrial music as the intro music for a SWAT Kats movie would be nice > A night spent posting to the list without a single deleted message? I knew it had to be too good to be true. I'd have to say that while that while an orchestral version of SWAT Kats' music would be nice, I wouldn't want to hear it as the intro for a movie, more like a mood setting portion heard later on in the film. The movie's opening music should probably be closer to what we hear for the first season, although it'd have to be on a theatrical scale (which the series just about already provides) Perhaps a sequel could start out with such a theme, but it just wouldn't seem right for the *first* Kats movie to be that way. Kevin L. Knoles From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 4 15:24:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA29855 for kats-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 15:06:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host (host.warwick.net [204.255.24.254]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA29846 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 15:05:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2-08.warwick.net by host; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0310PM) id AA21250; Sat, 4 May 1996 15:07:06 -0400 X-Sender: u1003240@host.warwick.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Light 1.5.4Fat (PowerPC) Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 15:07:55 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: jaguar@warwick.net (Michael J. Rider) Subject: Jonny Quest vs. Kats, who would win? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Fri, 3 May 1996 16:07:47 -0500 (CDT) Kay Chang wrote: >Johnny Quest is leaving Cartoon Network!! I don't know if anyone else saw >this, but they're showing these promos that say stuff like: "Dr. Zinn's >dream has come true . . . Johnny Quest is leaving," and what not. =P Aiiiiieeee! At least there is going to be a marathon before he goes. Is this for good? Lets hope so. That will leave more air time for Kats (I wish). I thought the parody on Freakazoid was better than the original show. The "semi-conductor" that looks like the Big Guy really cracks me up. Don't mind me, I just live here. =) -- ____________________________ |\ /| / Michael J. Rider / :o o: / AKA: Richard #926 /________oOOo_==( ^ )==_oOOo__________ / jaguar@warwick.net / ' / / Jason_Jaguar on FurryMUCK / Hey, what's going on up here? / ---------------------------- / / Brain> Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? / / Pinky> Uh, I think so, Brain, but where will we find a / / duck and a hose at this hour? / ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 4 16:56:47 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA06222 for kats-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 16:46:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id QAA06130 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 16:46:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from net-1-049.austin.eden.com (net-1-049.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.49]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id PAA17961 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 15:46:15 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 15:46:15 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199605042046.PAA17961@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Jonny Quest vs. Kats, who would win? X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Aiiiiieeee! At least there is going to be a marathon before he goes. Is >this for good? Lets hope so. That will leave more air time for Kats (I >wish). I thought the parody on Freakazoid was better than the original >show. The "semi-conductor" that looks like the Big Guy really cracks me >up. I don't know. I REALLY hope it is. I don't like JQ. =P Freakazoid did a spoof on it? Rilly? Kewl. (Sorry, someone I've become an e-mail penpal with writes that way. I'm suffering from a brief rub-off on writing.) > ""? Umm . . . Mike, are you feeling okay? >Don't mind me, I just live here. =) Yeah, don't we all? (Y'know, I used t' have a quote from Calvin & Hobbes that said that. Calvin's mom gets really mad and blows up at his dad: "IT'S *YOUR* FAULT WE DIDN'T HAVE A SWEET LITTLE GIRL! *YOUR* STUPID CHROMOSOME, NOT MINE!!" and then she storms off while the dad's sitting there with the expression "what?" on his face, then slinks into his chair, thinking "I just live here . . .") I live here too. And I live in Austin Texas, and I also live somewhere no one's ever discovered because they're too afraid that if they go they'll get sucked in, and I've been stuffing on sugar again so RUN AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > |\ /| > :o o: >________oOOo_==( ^ )==_oOOo__________ > > Hey, what's going on up here? / You know, I'm not really sure. *Somebody* let Ryan into the control room. > / Brain> Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? / > / Pinky> Uh, I think so, Brain, but where will we find a / > / duck and a hose at this hour? / > ------------------------------------------------------------- Umm . . "Ducks 'n' Hoses 'R Us"? ;) Terra Chang "I've got PLENTY of common sense . . . I just choose to ignore it." --Calvin & Hobbes `````````````````````````````` Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional. `````````````````````````````` "Childhood is short and maturity is forever." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 4 21:26:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA21668 for kats-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:19:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com (emout18.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.44]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA21663 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:19:09 -0400 (EDT) From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA09688 for kats@bort.mv.net; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:18:38 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 21:18:38 -0400 Message-ID: <960504211837_484446923@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Jonny Quest has left the network... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Aiiiiieeee! At least there is going to be a marathon before he goes. Is >>this for good? Lets hope so. That will leave more air time for Kats (I >>wish). I thought the parody on Freakazoid was better than the original >>show. The "semi-conductor" that looks like the Big Guy really cracks me >>up. > >I don't know. I REALLY hope it is. I don't like JQ. =P >Freakazoid did a spoof on it? Rilly? Kewl. (Sorry, someone I've become an >e-mail penpal with writes that way. I'm suffering from a brief rub-off on >writing.) Knowing Turner they'll probably stick Speed Racer in his time slot. Or worse yet, (get out your barf bags everyone!) The *new* Jonny Quest will be there in a month or so, kinda like that Speed, Kat, and Dexter thing for March. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 4 21:38:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA21678 for kats-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:20:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA21673 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:20:11 -0400 (EDT) From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA03673 for kats@bort.mv.net; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:19:40 -0400 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 21:19:40 -0400 Message-ID: <960504211939_484447428@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: 2 openings? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Just a quick fact that I thought I'd toss out, there are 2 openings to >in which Razor is heard, one for which he says "This week on SWAT Kats" and >another one where he says "Today on SWAT Kats" I happen to have heard both >of >them becuase the station I originally watched SWAT Kats on once accidentally >played both. I take it they played the "Today" version on TCN, right? > > |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| > | | | | > \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / > \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ Hate to break it to you, but they play neither. And they don't play the secret files, or the S.K.I Q. ep...yet. (What a rip!) Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa Anne Yes, I'm back. (It's been a hecktic week, and my server refuses to cooperate with me!) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 4 22:10:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA24637 for kats-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 22:04:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id WAA24632 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 22:04:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from net-2-090.austin.eden.com (net-2-090.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.90]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id VAA03363 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 21:04:27 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 21:04:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199605050204.VAA03363@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: 2 openings? X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Hate to break it to you, but they play neither. And they don't play the >secret files, or the S.K.I Q. ep...yet. (What a rip!) They haven't? Aw man da** it!!!! (See, I *can* be civil--sometimes. ) >Lt FFeral@aol.com >Melissa Anne >Yes, I'm back. (It's been a hecktic week, and my server refuses to cooperate >with me!) Hi! Welcome back! Lemme guess--another OM competition? Terra Chang "I've got PLENTY of common sense . . . I just choose to ignore it." --Calvin & Hobbes `````````````````````````````` Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional. `````````````````````````````` "Childhood is short and maturity is forever." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 4 22:55:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA25438 for kats-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 22:42:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA25330 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 22:39:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d150.infoserve.net [199.175.157.150]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA23322 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 19:38:58 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 19:38:58 -0700 Message-Id: <199605050238.TAA23322@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Katmail bounce: paging Matt Weber.... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 21:18:38 -0400 >Message-ID: <960504211837_484446923@emout18.mail.aol.com> >To: kats@bort.mv.net >Subject: Re: Jonny Quest has left the network... >Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net >Precedence: bulk >Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > > >>>Aiiiiieeee! At least there is going to be a marathon before he goes. Is >>>this for good? Lets hope so. That will leave more air time for Kats (I >>>wish). I thought the parody on Freakazoid was better than the original >>>show. The "semi-conductor" that looks like the Big Guy really cracks me >>>up. >> >>I don't know. I REALLY hope it is. I don't like JQ. =P >>Freakazoid did a spoof on it? Rilly? Kewl. (Sorry, someone I've become an >>e-mail penpal with writes that way. I'm suffering from a brief rub-off on >>writing.) > >Knowing Turner they'll probably stick Speed Racer in his time slot. Or worse >yet, (get out your barf bags everyone!) The *new* Jonny Quest will be there >in a month or so, kinda like that Speed, Kat, and Dexter thing for March. > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 4 23:10:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA25461 for kats-ll; Sat, 4 May 1996 22:43:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA25456 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 22:43:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d150.infoserve.net [199.175.157.150]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA23408 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 19:43:17 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 May 1996 19:43:17 -0700 Message-Id: <199605050243.TAA23408@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Jonny Quest has left the network... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >>>Aiiiiieeee! At least there is going to be a marathon before he goes. Is >>>this for good? Lets hope so. That will leave more air time for Kats (I >>>wish). I thought the parody on Freakazoid was better than the original >>>show. The "semi-conductor" that looks like the Big Guy really cracks me >>>up. >> >>I don't know. I REALLY hope it is. I don't like JQ. =P >>Freakazoid did a spoof on it? Rilly? Kewl. (Sorry, someone I've become an >>e-mail penpal with writes that way. I'm suffering from a brief rub-off on >>writing.) > >Knowing Turner they'll probably stick Speed Racer in his time slot. Or worse >yet, (get out your barf bags everyone!) The *new* Jonny Quest will be there >in a month or so, kinda like that Speed, Kat, and Dexter thing for March. It's a publicity stunt, gang. JQ is on track for fall, and, get this - that JQ parody on Freak! was shown in the boardroom at Hanna-Barbera to Seibert and a few others. Heh. BTW, apologies for forwarding another copy of this to the list. I'd misinterpreted the header message and thought it was an outgoing bounce from Matt. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 02:24:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id CAA09974 for kats-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 02:13:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host (host.warwick.net [204.255.24.254]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA09969 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 02:13:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2-16.warwick.net by host; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0310PM) id AA07650; Sun, 5 May 1996 02:14:42 -0400 X-Sender: u1003240@host.warwick.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Light 1.5.4Fat (PowerPC) Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 02:15:32 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: jaguar@warwick.net (Michael J. Rider) Subject: Re: Jonny Quest Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I wrote: >Aiiiiieeee! At least there is going to be a marathon before he goes. Is >this for good? Lets hope so. That will leave more air time for Kats (I >wish). I thought the parody on Freakazoid was better than the original >show. The "semi-conductor" that looks like the Big Guy really cracks me >up. And then on Sat, 4 May 1996 15:46:15 -0500 (CDT) Kay Chang wrote: >I don't know. I REALLY hope it is. I don't like JQ. =P >Freakazoid did a spoof on it? Rilly? Kewl. (Sorry, someone I've become an >e-mail penpal with writes that way. I'm suffering from a brief rub-off on >writing.) Well, that is such a, like, thing! I mean there are just so many kewl people who, like, talk like that. YouknowwhatImean? And then on Sat, 4 May 1996 21:18:38 -0400 LtFFeral@aol.com wrote: >Knowing Turner they'll probably stick Speed Racer in his time slot. Or worse >yet, (get out your barf bags everyone!) The *new* Jonny Quest will be there >in a month or so, kinda like that Speed, Kat, and Dexter thing for March. The _new_ Jonny. Arrrgh! Speed Racer wouldn't be bad, more Kats would be much better. And then on Sat, 4 May 1996 19:43:17 -0700 chance wrote: >It's a publicity stunt, gang. JQ is on track for fall, and, get this - >that JQ parody >on Freak! was shown in the boardroom at Hanna-Barbera to Seibert and a >few others. Heh. I'll bet they just _loved_ it. Um, were we talking about some kind of kats or something? >yawn< -- ____________________________ |\ /| / Michael J. Rider / :o o: / AKA: Fluffy /________oOOo_==( ^ )==_oOOo__________ / jaguar@warwick.net / ' / / Jason_Jaguar on FurryMUCK / Hey, what's going on up here? / ---------------------------- / / Brain> Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? / / Pinky> Uh, I think so, Brain, but where will we find a / / duck and a hose at this hour? / ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 02:37:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id CAA09982 for kats-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 02:13:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host (www.warwick.net [204.255.24.254]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA09976 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 02:13:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2-16.warwick.net by host; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0310PM) id AA01102; Sun, 5 May 1996 02:14:48 -0400 X-Sender: u1003240@host.warwick.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Light 1.5.4Fat (PowerPC) Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 02:15:37 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: jaguar@warwick.net (Michael J. Rider) Subject: Hobbes the Terrific Tiger and that kid with feet like little dinner rolls whose name I can never remember Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sat, 4 May 1996 15:46:15 -0500 (CDT) Kay Chang wrote: >>Don't mind me, I just live here. =) > >Yeah, don't we all? (Y'know, I used t' have a quote from Calvin & Hobbes >that said that. Calvin's mom gets really mad and blows up at his dad: "IT'S >*YOUR* FAULT WE DIDN'T HAVE A SWEET LITTLE GIRL! *YOUR* STUPID CHROMOSOME, >NOT MINE!!" and then she storms off while the dad's sitting there with the >expression "what?" on his face, then slinks into his chair, thinking "I just >live here . . .") Yup, yup, yup. That's a great quote. I simply _love_ C&H. Pictures of them asleep in front of a fireplace make me all wiggly like when I fell asleep like that when I was little... >I live here too. And I live in Austin Texas, and I also live somewhere no >one's ever discovered because they're too afraid that if they go they'll get >sucked in, and I've been stuffing on sugar again so RUN >AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To rip off a quote from Monty Python and the Holy Grail: "Run away, run away!" Maybe you could cut down a little on the sugar, huh? I will post something on-topic next time. I will post something on-topic next time. I will post something on-topic next time. I will post something on-topic next time. I will post something on-topic next time. I will post something on-topic next time. I will post something on-topic next time. I will post something on-topic next time. -- ____________________________ |\ /| / Michael J. Rider / :o o: / AKA: Fluffy /________oOOo_==( ^ )==_oOOo__________ / jaguar@warwick.net / ' / / Jason_Jaguar on FurryMUCK / Hey, what's going on up here? / ---------------------------- / / Brain> Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? / / Pinky> Uh, I think so, Brain, but where will we find a / / duck and a hose at this hour? / ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 03:54:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id DAA15759 for kats-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 03:36:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id DAA15753 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 03:36:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.205] (dyn1205a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.205]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id OAA04916 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 14:36:26 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 14:35:06 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: How different? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net How different is the original TurboKat from the one that we saw on TV? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "They're everywhere!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 04:09:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id DAA15779 for kats-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 03:37:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id DAA15773 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 03:36:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.205] (dyn1205a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.205]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id OAA04936 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 14:36:44 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 14:35:28 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: NOTAR animation Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Thu, 2 May 1996, Kevin L. Knoles wrote: >animation just doesn't seem like an issue, and I the chopper designs >likely weren't made in consideration of how good the studio was >anyway. Of course Mook done a much better job on doing the flight scenes. ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "They're everywhere!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 04:12:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id DAA15767 for kats-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 03:36:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id DAA15761 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 03:36:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.205] (dyn1205a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.205]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id OAA04924 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 14:36:36 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 14:35:11 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Only Felina? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Fri, 3 May 1996, Edo Andromedo wrote: >> Is there any other female Enforcer besides Felina? On Thu, 2 May 1996, Kevin L. Knoles wrote: > Yep. I can't immediately recall seeing any, but I'm sure there are. But >then we are talking about *my* memeory here. I don't remember seeing any female Enforcer either, so to you any other there that remember which episode that does show a female Enforcer (Besides Felina), please tell us. >It would seem a bit sexist to not have shown any others. Well, I think that they got the opportunity to show a female Enforcer in "Cry Turmoil", but unfortunately they put in Felina in that Chopper instead. ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "They're everywhere!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 04:16:12 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id DAA15786 for kats-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 03:37:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id DAA15780 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 03:37:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.205] (dyn1205a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.205]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id OAA04946 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 14:36:57 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 14:35:33 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Music. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Fri, 3 May 1996 00:05:57 +0700, Edo Andromedo wrote: >>An orchestratrial music as the intro music for a SWAT Kats >>movie would be nice. On Fri, 3 May 1996 20:28:52 -0500, Kevin L. Knoles wrote: > A night spent posting to the list without a single >deleted message? I knew it had to be too good to be true. Well, it's gotta be better than spending 24 hours waiting for part two of your message. >I'd have to say that while that while an orchestral >version of SWAT Kats' music would be nice, I wouldn't want >to hear it as the intro for a movie, more like a mood setting >portion heard later on in the film. I mean the music for the beginning credits, I think that Louallen here already given an example of it. >The movie's opening music should probably be closer to what >we hear for the first season, although it'd have to be on a >theatrical scale. Well, it's either that or they have to find a new breed of music for the SWAT Kats. >Perhaps a sequel could start out with such a >theme, but it just wouldn't seem right for the *first* Kats >movie to be that way. Why is the sequel instead of the first? Is there any differents? >Kevin L. Knoles ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "They're everywhere!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 18:26:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA04419 for kats-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 18:08:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from redding.snowcrest.net (redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA04378 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 18:08:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fatal.com (fatal@localhost) by redding.snowcrest.net (8.6.5) with UUCP id PAA15246 for kats@bort.mv.net; Sun, 5 May 1996 15:10:14 -0700 Received: by fatal.com (wcGATE v4) id 39733W Sun, 5 May 1996 23:08:41 GMT From: louallen.wheeler@fatal.com (Louallen Wheeler) Subject: test...... Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 21:50:47 GMT Message-Id: <96050515084137697@fatal.com> Organization: FATAL ERROR |(916)365-7456/6104 | Redding, Ca. 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Try Epic MegaGames!! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 5 21:53:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA15260 for kats-ll; Sun, 5 May 1996 21:39:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA15253 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 21:39:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from net-3-125.austin.eden.com (net-3-125.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.125]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id UAA18327 for ; Sun, 5 May 1996 20:39:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 20:39:34 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199605060139.UAA18327@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: IT'S FINISHED!!!!!!!! X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Okay, a few days? weeks? ago, somebody asked if anyone was doing any 'fic writing. I responded and said I was. AND IT'S FINALLY DONE!! (or at least part one is) I've sent it to Max, and now I'm waiting for it to be put up. ('S kinda long, so that might take a while.) If anyone would like, I can send them a copy of it. (yes, I'm shamelessly advertising, but WHO CARES?????? ) It's called "Blood Moon Rising". It's a vampire story. (Hey, I've been threatening to do one for a while now, as people who have been here as long or longer than I have know ;) ) I would really like, whether you get it from me or download it from the site, if you gave me your opinion. I'll still finish it if you hate it, but if I know you like it, I could work harder on parts two and so on. I always ask for people's advice, but this time I'm really desperate for feedback!! ****PLEASE**** tell me what you think. Pretty, pretty please? (BTW, [oh, and a spoiler warning for the story itself; if you don't like spoilers, ignore this and close the message now!!!] about what I did to T-Bone: don't worry all you fans of the bigger guy! His condition ain't pernament, I'll fix it without doing what I did to Razor. [no more hints. You'll hafta read it to find out what the *hell* I'm talkin' about. ;)] ) Erin's read part of it, she's said it's good, but I need more than just one feedback! (tho I greatly appreciate *good* feedback!) ;) OKAY that's it for now. Remember: I NEED TO KNOW YOUR OPINIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Terra Chang "I've got PLENTY of common sense . . . I just choose to ignore it." --Calvin & Hobbes `````````````````````````````` Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional. `````````````````````````````` "Childhood is short and maturity is forever." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon May 6 16:13:25 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA11986 for kats-ll; Mon, 6 May 1996 15:30:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA11977 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 15:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA16904; Mon, 6 May 1996 15:36:28 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 15:36:28 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: JQ and SK, Axes and Cans....... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I was watching a few eps of the "Farewell Jonny Quest" marathon and I was paying attention to the artwork done. It is exteremly good for the year it was made and what technology was available. Yet it got the ax. SWAT Kats has exteremly good artwork for the year it was made and the technology available. It got canned too. Seems like there's a connection here.......... Oh yeah, where can I watch the "New Jonny Quest"? I wanna see what it's like. Has anyone seen "Dial "M" for Monkey"? I think it's cute. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon May 6 16:17:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA11700 for kats-ll; Mon, 6 May 1996 15:26:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA11691 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 15:25:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA16741; Mon, 6 May 1996 15:32:24 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 15:32:23 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: TurboKat Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net About a week ago, I made a paper-airplane turbokat with a lot of paper and tape. It flies! I have a cockpit, tail fins, flaps at the end of the wings, and all that's missing is retracable wings! (If I did that, I don't know how the HECK they could stay on.) When will the TurboKat models be in the /drawn area on rat? Who drew the katsvg.gif, kats04.gif, bwtbone.gif, bwrazor.gif, katsmetl.gif? I am working on bwtbone.gif, and I have already finished the penciling. These pictures are good drawing practice and look cooler than on the cartoon. Is it possible on obtaining a "how to draw" from whoever made those pics? I'm guessing Christian, because of they way the kats are drawn, but I'm not sure. That would make a cool part of the 3rd season opener. (The katsvg.gif) Instead of the turbokat like in the 1st season one. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon May 6 17:02:29 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA18324 for kats-ll; Mon, 6 May 1996 16:46:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id QAA18319 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 16:46:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.68] (dyn1068a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.68]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id DAA05137 for ; Tue, 7 May 1996 03:46:24 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 03:45:13 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Okay, let's try this again Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >A few notes on some stuff: if you can, please try to consolidate your >posts into a single one (rather than several separate ones) as much as >possible. Well Razor, I already tried, read my message that was posted at "Wed, 3 Jan 1996 16:53:33 +0700". But nobody reply back to my message, I was depressed, so I just decided to drop the idea of putting all my respones in one single post. >Two or three posts replying to listmail is fine, but nine or ten >in a row to the list gets kind of ridiculous, if you ask me. Oh, you should have seen the other mailing list that I'm on, I got about 30-50 mails a day! Of course some of them are the stories that was written by my fellow crewmates. >I moved someone from the list to the digest for this very reason. Are you talking about me, Razor? ;) Okay, I'm going to try this again, but just for you Razor, and also for everybody on this list. ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: Sound Barrier, Names, and the MAA Edo: when do the kats broke the sound barrier anyway? Kevin: Yeah, since the Kats' history is clearly quite different than our own, then when would an historic event such as breaking the sound barrier occur? Well, if the third MegaWar in the kats world already happen, I say that it must be somewhere in MegaWar 3. Maybe jets and the other stuff appear in MegaWar 3. Speaking of MegaWar, how big is a MegaWar anyway? A World War is a world-wide conflict, but what is a MegaWar? Kevin: And what do you 'spose the name of test pilot was? Since Chuck Yaeger is sort of taken as the early names for T-Bone and Razor, If Chuck and Yeager are T-Bone and Razor's original names, then what are Jake and Chance's original names? Kevin: then I don't think it could/should be a variation of his name. Chuck Yeager would be nice name for that test pilot. Of course it would be much nicer if that name would be Chuckie. Of course it would be much much nicer if that test pilot is a female kat. IMHO of course. Kevin: When did the creators, I guess the Tremblays, come up with them and why, Let me guess, when they have way too much time on their hands? Kevin: and why and how on the show did Chance and Jake choose them? I think that it follow the same evolutionary path as the existence of Callie. Edo: is MASA belong to MegaKat or to someone else? Kevin: I have no idea. More argumentation for or against the existence of a Kat nation with a federal government. Could it be that "Mega" is a region (or an area, or a country, or a continent, or even the name for the kat planet itself) on the kats world? And the word "Mega" from "MegaKat" comes from that certain area? BTW, what does the M from 'MASA' stands for? And also in MAA *if* there is gonna be a MAA. Well, I always believe that MegaKat is a country by itself. Since that I haven't seen some sort of national flag. ------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: Kat Web? Edo: is there somekind of Computer Network in MegaKat? Kevin: There'd have to be (as I said for an organized aviation adminstration). Since, as it's been speculated before, the Kats have a much more technologically advanced society than our own, surely they'd have a very developed internet and web, right? The "MegaNet". :) Well, they already have ATM machines, a computer database that stores important files, and Hard Drive was a hacker. So I'm sure that they have a computer network or something like that. Kevin: Would a nation of city-states, if that's what it is, have a larger or smaller system, assuming equal technological advancement to keep things simple. Well, to me, their technology always advance one step than ours when ever the episode need them. Turmoil got a tractor beam! What next? Transporter to katnap T-Bone? On Thu, 2 May 1996 20:29:09 -0500 (CDT), Kevin L. Knoles wrote: >Hmmm...I'm gonna go surfing for the Scardey Kat and Enforcer home pages right >now ;-> Well, I'm going try to find the unofficial home pages of Kat Kommando. Hmmm... Better try searching it by using Katcrawler. ------------------------------------------------ Somebody please respond to this message, if you don't, then I will presumed that my approach on this have failed, and I have to go back to the regular one post per topic. ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "They're everywhere!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon May 6 17:39:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA20625 for kats-ll; Mon, 6 May 1996 17:03:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id RAA20601 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 17:03:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id QAA27281 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 16:39:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.68] (dyn1068a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.68]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id DAA04951 for ; Tue, 7 May 1996 03:39:35 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 03:38:18 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: I will post something on-topic next time. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sun, 5 May 1996 02:15:37 -0400 Michael J. Rider wrote: >I will post something on-topic next time. Hmmm.... How about... "The effect of SWAT Kats to the world if Turner decided to give SWAT Kats a big publicity"? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "They're everywhere!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 15:47:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA12887 for kats-ll; Mon, 6 May 1996 22:02:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.halifax.com (root@ns.halifax.com [206.99.226.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA12882 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 22:02:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from buford.halifax.com (buford [206.99.226.90]) by ns.halifax.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA16747 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 22:01:53 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 22:01:53 -0400 Message-Id: <199605070201.WAA16747@ns.halifax.com> X-Sender: buford@halifax.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: buford@halifax.com (Brother Buford) Subject: Dark Kat (It's Buford again) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I just had an idea about Dark Kat... If you remember, I asked about Dark Kat earlier. DK could be based on Darth Vader. Well... There *are* similarities between the two. I mean, think about it... 1. both have deep voices 2. both are evil 3. both are large and strong 4. both are mysterious 5. both can fly ships (I mean they're pilots, sort of - they don't exactly fly planes) 6. both have a skullish looking face 7. both wear a cloak and head covering I realize that Darth Vader worked for the Empire and Dark Kat works for no one but himself, but DK may be based on Vader. DK may even be part machine, because who knows what he looks like under his cloak. He is extremely strong as well, and that could have something to do with it. And where did that that purple fur come from? Brother Buford "It's about time we said hello, Commander. I can imagine it was getting rather chilly in the cargo bay." - DK to Feral, Wrath of Dark Kat From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 15:49:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA13298 for kats-ll; Mon, 6 May 1996 22:18:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA13291 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 22:17:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d151.infoserve.net [199.175.157.151]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA00138 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 19:18:47 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 19:18:47 -0700 Message-Id: <199605070218.TAA00138@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: TurboKat Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > About a week ago, I made a paper-airplane turbokat with a lot of >paper and tape. It flies! I have a cockpit, tail fins, flaps at the end >of the wings, and all that's missing is retracable wings! (If I did that, >I don't know how the HECK they could stay on.) When will the TurboKat >models be in the /drawn area on rat? Cool. I made a "Battlestar Galactica" Viper that actually flew aways back when, but never considered a TK. The TK drawings should be up on rat.org shortly, but you've gotta be patient! > Who drew the katsvg.gif, kats04.gif, bwtbone.gif, bwrazor.gif, >katsmetl.gif? I am working on bwtbone.gif, and I have already finished >the penciling. These pictures are good drawing practice and look cooler >than on the cartoon. Is it possible on obtaining a "how to draw" from >whoever made those pics? I'm guessing Christian, because of they way the >kats are drawn, but I'm not sure. That would make a cool part of the 3rd >season opener. (The katsvg.gif) Instead of the turbokat like in the 1st >season one. The 'Toon' model sheets were drawn by H-B artist Butch Hartman, and they're obviously first-season ones. I can't dl the others at the moment to check, but some of the stuff like the poster was drawn by the Tremblays and inked/coloured by a comix professional, and I think some of that "Style Guide" stuff was actually done by Lance Falk. All the line-drawings in the "Style Guide" look like Tremblay artwork to me, and are a lot more "edgy" than the first-season designs that appeared heavily simplified for the purposes of animation. The Butch Hartman/"Toon" model sheets have some 'how-to' panels concerning how to draw Razor and T-Bone, but it would *indeed* be nice if I could get hold of the originals for everyone to look at/learn from. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 15:49:25 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA09172 for kats-ll; Mon, 6 May 1996 21:11:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host (www.warwick.net [204.255.24.254]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA09165 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 21:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2-10.warwick.net by host; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0310PM) id AA20818; Mon, 6 May 1996 21:12:41 -0400 X-Sender: u1003240@host.warwick.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Light 1.5.4Fat (PowerPC) Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 21:13:32 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: jaguar@warwick.net (Michael J. Rider) Subject: SK Publicity Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Tue, 7 May 1996 03:38:18 +0700 Edo Andromedo wrote: >Hmmm.... How about... "The effect of SWAT Kats to the world if Turner >decided to give SWAT Kats a big publicity"? It would be better if they gave it a renewal or better yet a movie deal. If there were more interest in them that _might_ become a possibility someday. Even finishing the last three episodes would be _something_. -- ____________________________ |\ /| / Michael J. Rider / :o o: / AKA: Fluffy /________oOOo_==( ^ )==_oOOo__________ / jaguar@warwick.net / ' / / Jason_Jaguar on FurryMUCK / Hey, what's going on up here? / ---------------------------- / / Brain> Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? / / Pinky> Uh, I think so, Brain, but where will we find a / / duck and a hose at this hour? / ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 15:52:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA09200 for kats-ll; Mon, 6 May 1996 21:12:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA09193 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 21:12:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d151.infoserve.net [199.175.157.151]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA25211 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 18:12:30 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 18:12:30 -0700 Message-Id: <199605070112.SAA25211@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Jonny Quest Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >And then on Sat, 4 May 1996 19:43:17 -0700 chance wrote: > >>It's a publicity stunt, gang. JQ is on track for fall, and, get this - >>that JQ parody >>on Freak! was shown in the boardroom at Hanna-Barbera to Seibert and a >>few others. Heh. > >I'll bet they just _loved_ it. A good time was had by all. (Well...'cept maybe Peter Lawrence) >Um, were we talking about some kind of kats or something? >yawn< Yup. We are. I'm in the throes of trying to get the name/address of someone we can write to that could wind up having some kind of impact; or, at least an address that doesn't have a 12" pipeline to the waste-paper basket. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 16:02:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA29164 for kats-ll; Tue, 7 May 1996 15:12:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA29159 for ; Tue, 7 May 1996 15:12:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA02677; Tue, 7 May 1996 15:19:15 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 15:19:15 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Clay Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Since nobody's been posting lately, I've decided to tell you that I'm making a T-Bone out of clay in art class. It looks really cool. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 16:10:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA09182 for kats-ll; Mon, 6 May 1996 21:11:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host (webchat.warwick.net [204.255.24.254]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA09176 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 21:11:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2-10.warwick.net by host; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0310PM) id AA12330; Mon, 6 May 1996 21:12:45 -0400 X-Sender: u1003240@host.warwick.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Light 1.5.4Fat (PowerPC) Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 21:13:37 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: jaguar@warwick.net (Michael J. Rider) Subject: Re: Okay, let's try this again Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Tue, 7 May 1996 03:45:13 +0700 Edo Andromedo wrote: >[Razor wrote] >>Two or three posts replying to listmail is fine, but nine or ten >>in a row to the list gets kind of ridiculous, if you ask me. > >Oh, you should have seen the other mailing list that I'm on, I got about 30-50 >mails a day! Of course some of them are the stories that was written by my >fellow crewmates. I, for one don't mind getting large amounts of seperate mail. It's a real pain digging through long multiple reply mails. -- ____________________________ |\ /| / Michael J. Rider / :o o: / AKA: Fluffy /________oOOo_==( ^ )==_oOOo__________ / jaguar@warwick.net / ' / / Jason_Jaguar on FurryMUCK / Hey, what's going on up here? / ---------------------------- / / Brain> Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? / / Pinky> Uh, I think so, Brain, but where will we find a / / duck and a hose at this hour? / ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 16:24:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA09191 for kats-ll; Mon, 6 May 1996 21:11:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA09184 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 21:11:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d151.infoserve.net [199.175.157.151]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA25208 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 18:12:28 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 18:12:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199605070112.SAA25208@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: test...... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >index >- >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >Jedi Master Wheeler >louallen.wheeler@fatal.com >"..do or do not--there is no try..." > Jedi Master Yoda, Empire Strikes Back >If in the need for really rockin' games for free? Try Epic MegaGames!! >-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Grr. This is a *bad* thing, folks. Post something kats-relevant to "test" if you're getting your mail, not 'test'. In case you haven't guessed, while Dana's out of town until the 18th, I've got the Golf Clubs again. If you have any concerns about getting your mail, or are tempted at all to send "test" to the list, my e-mail address is chance@unix.infoserve.net - not kats@lists.mv.net. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 16:26:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA09162 for kats-ll; Mon, 6 May 1996 21:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host (host.warwick.net [204.255.24.254]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA09155 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 21:11:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2-10.warwick.net by host; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0310PM) id AA19079; Mon, 6 May 1996 21:12:37 -0400 X-Sender: u1003240@host.warwick.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Light 1.5.4Fat (PowerPC) Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 21:13:28 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: jaguar@warwick.net (Michael J. Rider) Subject: Re: JQ and SK, Axes and Cans....... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Mon, 6 May 1996 15:36:28 -0400 (EDT) ARTHUR JOHN FREDA wrote: > I was watching a few eps of the "Farewell Jonny Quest" marathon >and I was paying attention to the artwork done. It is exteremly good for >the year it was made and what technology was available. Yet it got the ax. > SWAT Kats has exteremly good artwork for the year it was made and >the technology available. It got canned too. Seems like there's a >connection here.......... Yeah, the folks at HB just never know when they have a good thing. It was well done for the time. Having seen a few episodes of JQ in that marathon (while vacuuming and generally cleaning up my usual mess) they don't look too bad. If the writing were better they might be more watchable. Epilogue: There were ads running on TCN today for JQ videos. I guess that's the real purpose of the marathon. "Let me throw a barrel at it!" -Brace, on Freakazoid -- ____________________________ |\ /| / Michael J. Rider / :o o: / AKA: Fluffy /________oOOo_==( ^ )==_oOOo__________ / jaguar@warwick.net / ' / / Jason_Jaguar on FurryMUCK / Hey, what's going on up here? / ---------------------------- / / Brain> Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? / / Pinky> Uh, I think so, Brain, but where will we find a / / duck and a hose at this hour? / ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 16:27:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA08940 for kats-ll; Mon, 6 May 1996 21:04:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA08931 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 21:04:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl9.redding.snowcrest.net (sl9.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.73]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA02555 for ; Mon, 6 May 1996 18:04:48 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 May 1996 18:04:48 -0700 Message-Id: <199605070104.SAA02555@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Casshan Subject: Re: Poll Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >-> 1. Who is the character you like seeing most in fanfiction? T-Bone, all the way! >-> 2. Which story on the site is your favorite? >-> >If mine is up on the site, than no contest. But otherwise Terra/Ryan's >Midnight Magic/Day and Night series. Here too! > >-> 3. Who's your favorite writer (fanfic, not episodes)? >-> >Me and Terra (Ryan's style is just too choppy for me...) I assume that people reading have a clue to real life (and you say that you don't [and it shows!!]). I like DJ Clawson and the guy who wrote T-Bone's Steaks. Those two are gifted (DJ writes the way I daydream [just less actionate]) > >-> 4. Why? >Well, I'm a pretty good writer, and I really like Terra's style. Lopine reminds me of Archeivic, and the other one was all about T-Bone Heeeeeeeeee! >-> >-> 5. Is there any specific character that any one would like an origin >-> story written for? >-> >I guess that that one would be Calico 'Callie' Briggs... I'd rather see one written about Feral. > >-> 6. Would any one like to see a POV (Point of View) done from one >-> character's side in any certain episode? >-> >Once again, Callie. Everything she does each day. EVERYTHING! Oh REALLY NOW! No, I would sat Feral. We're so close to being a clone of each other, sometimes, it SCARES ME!!! > >-> 7. If so, which episode? >-> >A romance-type episode. I'm sorry. But with mucho action scenes. >Callie and Jake, Chance and Felina... I'm writing one, but I don't think ANYONE will like it's style, so I'd have to edit it to the EXTREME! I don't know why, but I like seeing T-Bone picking on himself. Call me crazy! > >-> 8. Does anyone want to try tackling the mythology and such of the >-> kats world? > >Not right now... I am.......... kinda, sorta. I's really complicated, and I don't have the time to explain it. > >-> 9. Would any one like to see a deliberately funny kats story? >-> ('sides Ryan's "Tribute" story), sorta like MST/Kats crossover? (You >-> know, that wierd late-night show where these people and aliens >-> review different Sci-Fi movies?) > >I'm gonna do the Star Wars take-off, and the Grey Side/Blue Side story >is EXTREMELY FUNNY!!!!! Oh NO! Not another Ztarr Warz take-off! ANYTHING BUT THAT! > >-> 10. Are we *ever* gonna try and RPG? (this answer can also say if >-> you want to do it or not) > >I'm working on the RPG CCG right now. But even though I'm doin the >cards, I need some help on the rules... I'm thinking of doing RPG fanfics. > >-> >-> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >-> ~ >-> Okay, that's it. Kinda short, knowing me. Okay, now I'll just >-> click the "send" button and sit back and watch what happens. ANd, to >-> all you newbies who may have recently joined us here: Please answer! >-> It may not seem like it, but I'd like everybody's opinion here! (And >-> I promise to try and keep anyone [like Ryan] from biting you! No >-> offense, Ryan! =) ) >-> Terra Chang >-> None taken! I only bite when I'm highly irritated! >-> "I just live here . . ." >-> --Calvin & Hobbes I just brake the rules when my parents arn't home. This thingy is an example!" -- Casshan >-> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >-> "I've got PLENTY of common sense . . . I just choose to ignore it." >-> --Calvin & Hobbes >-> Don't we all? _______________________________________________________________ (Retarded)..... To heck with this! I don't want this crud anymore! ----------------------Ryan "Casshan" Kelley--------------------------------------- SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Casshan!.... I grow weary of that name." Android "Black King" BK1 _______________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 17:10:50 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA05873 for kats-ll; Tue, 7 May 1996 16:44:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA05823 for ; Tue, 7 May 1996 16:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA37842; Tue, 7 May 1996 15:43:21 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605072043.AA37842@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: TurboKat To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 15:43:21 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199605070218.TAA00138@unix.infoserve.net> from "chance" at May 6, 96 07:18:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > > Who drew the katsvg.gif, kats04.gif, bwtbone.gif, bwrazor.gif, > >katsmetl.gif? I am working on bwtbone.gif, and I have already finished I just thought I'd point out that I scanned bwtbone.gif and bwrazor.gif from the Bike Safety Checklist (safeinsd.jpg, under Promo), but even at 600 dpi lots of regions closed up and the images didn't come out right (Look at the black portions on the front to Razor's helmet, those rectangular pouches on T-Bone's torso, and their gloves, and you'll see what I mean.) I would have scanned at 1200 dpi, but I couldn't really due to those darn gray regions which were really made up of tiny little dots which became visible at that resolution and my experimentation at 1200 dpi showed (to my amazement) that it wouldn't have helped signifigantly anyway. If there are better, larger, versions out there (Perhaps among the 40 images Chance loaned Matt?), then bwtbone and bwrazor should be replaced. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 17:18:12 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA09272 for kats-ll; Tue, 7 May 1996 16:53:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA09222 for ; Tue, 7 May 1996 16:53:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA74412; Tue, 7 May 1996 15:53:14 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605072053.AA74412@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Dark Kat To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 15:53:09 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199605070201.WAA16747@ns.halifax.com> from "Brother Buford" at May 6, 96 10:01:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > DK could be based on Darth Vader. Well... > There *are* similarities between the two. [Deleted] Say, *you're*right*. I mean, even if one does account for the stereotype of the big dark bad guy, there seem to be just too many coincidences. I find it kind of hard to swallow that Darth Vader may not have been considered during the creation of Dark Kat. > strong as well, and that could have something to do with it. And where did > that that purple fur come from? But purple fur looks better than Black, and since T-Bone and Razor have mostly black bandannas/masks (with blue highlights), you wouldn't want them to resemble Dark Kat that way. > Brother Buford > "It's about time we said hello, Commander. I can imagine it was getting > rather chilly in the cargo bay." - DK to Feral, Wrath of Dark Kat Yeah, that was a good line. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 17:40:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA10527 for kats-ll; Tue, 7 May 1996 17:09:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA10517 for ; Tue, 7 May 1996 17:09:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA07554; Tue, 7 May 1996 17:16:35 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 17:16:35 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: SWAT Kats soundtrack CD and casette Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hmm... Possibly if I get enough sigs/names from people who would like an SK soundtrack, I could e-mail toonnet and ask for an sk sound track, like a petition. Please help, lurkers! We need all the names/sigs we can get ! Please e-mail me with the subject "SWAT Kats Soundtrack" or something similar. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS Aren't you getting tired of this sig? I'll change it today. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 18:54:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA17225 for kats-ll; Tue, 7 May 1996 18:44:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA17218 for ; Tue, 7 May 1996 18:44:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.135] (dyn1135a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.135]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id FAA23446 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 05:44:43 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 05:43:22 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Terra's Poll Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I already send 1-6 to Terra, but I think that I also to send 6-10 to the= list, since that I got something to say to the list >> 6. Would any one like to see a POV (Point of View) done from one >> character's side in any certain episode? > >Once again, Callie. Everything she does each day. EVERYTHING! Well, here's an idea of mine, make a story from the POV of your very own= fanfic character, you can make that character as a character that connect= the junkyard, Enforcer HQ, museum, City Hall, etc. >>7. If so, which episode? > >A romance-type episode. But with mucho action scenes. >Callie and Jake, Chance and Felina... Arrgghh!! If I ever catches the one that write a love story of either Callie= and Jake or Chance and Felina, I will... I will... Nevermind, it's too= violent for me to say it. Although that the idea of putting a green ribbon= or a purple ribbon to the one that write it does come up. But seriously, the only common thing between Callie and Jake is that a LOT= people like them. Although that if you want to ask who is the most perfect candidate to be in= a love story, is say that it is Callie. IMSHO of course. If you want to write a love story, here's a suggestion, write something that= might indicate the start of somekind a relationships, and then let the= readers confuse to no end by not writing it. But you may choose to write it= if you want. Of course since that this is you story, write what ever you want. Don't= write a service story. >> 8. Does anyone want to try tackling the mythology and such of the >> kats world? > >Not right now... A story based on a mythology is nice, but make it full SWAT Kats style. AND= NO DARK AGES! I HATE THE DARK AGES. Somebody once throw a cow at me over the castle a wall in the Dark Ages! >>9. Would any one like to see a deliberately funny kats story? > >I'm gonna do the Star Wars take-off, and the Grey Side/Blue Side story >is EXTREMELY FUNNY!!!!! Well, my first try to write a funny scene got shot down as soon it as it's a= irborne. But I do want to see some funny scenes in the story, and I also want to see= some funny villains too. >>10. Are we *ever* gonna try and RPG? "Yes." But I don't know about the others though. Please guys, do any of you got= something to say about this matter? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "They're everywhere!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 19:27:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA20287 for kats-ll; Tue, 7 May 1996 19:09:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id TAA20266 for ; Tue, 7 May 1996 19:09:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from net-7-214.austin.eden.com (net-2-070.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.70]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id SAA11567 for ; Tue, 7 May 1996 18:09:06 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 18:09:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199605072309.SAA11567@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Terra's Poll X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I already send 1-6 to Terra, but I think that I also to send 6-10 to the list, since that I got something to say to the list What? I'm sorry, Edo, but could you send it again? My system must've ate it, 'cuz I haven't seen it anywhere . . . Sorry. Terra Chang "I've got PLENTY of common sense . . . I just choose to ignore it." --Calvin & Hobbes `````````````````````````````` Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional. `````````````````````````````` "Childhood is short and maturity is forever." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 19:40:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA20068 for kats-ll; Tue, 7 May 1996 19:03:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host (host.warwick.net [204.255.24.254]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA20063 for ; Tue, 7 May 1996 19:03:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2-01.warwick.net by host; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0310PM) id AA19734; Tue, 7 May 1996 19:05:02 -0400 X-Sender: u1003240@host.warwick.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Light 1.5.4Fat (PowerPC) Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 19:05:53 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: jaguar@warwick.net (Michael J. Rider) Subject: NOTAR News Helicopter [Kats Related Material] Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I just noticed today that the news helicopter in Chaos In Crystal has some kind of metal grills on the end of it's tail. Could this be the NOTAR thingy? It sure looks like it. -- ____________________________ |\ /| / Michael J. Rider / :o o: / AKA: Fluffy /________oOOo_==( ^ )==_oOOo__________ / jaguar@warwick.net / ' / / Jason_Jaguar on FurryMUCK / Hey, what's going on up here? / ---------------------------- / / Brain> Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? / / Pinky> Uh, I think so, Brain, but where will we find a / / duck and a hose at this hour? / ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 19:54:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA20083 for kats-ll; Tue, 7 May 1996 19:03:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host (www.warwick.net [204.255.24.254]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA20070 for ; Tue, 7 May 1996 19:03:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2-01.warwick.net by host; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0310PM) id AA30579; Tue, 7 May 1996 19:05:06 -0400 X-Sender: u1003240@host.warwick.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Light 1.5.4Fat (PowerPC) Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 19:05:58 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: jaguar@warwick.net (Michael J. Rider) Subject: Re: Dark Kat Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Mon, 6 May 1996 22:01:53 -0400 Brother Buford wrote: >DK could be based on Darth Vader. Well... >There *are* similarities between the two. [stuff snipped] He's a pretty typical "heavy" character just like Vader. Those are all the hallmarks of a big nasty villian. They _are_ very similar otherwise. >I realize that Darth Vader worked for the Empire and Dark Kat works for no >one but himself, but DK may be based on Vader. DK may even be part machine, >because who knows what he looks like under his cloak. He is extremely >strong as well, and that could have something to do with it. And where did >that that purple fur come from? The idea of DK being a cyborg is cool. I don't know what the Tremblays had in mind for him, but it is reasonable. The purple doesn't have to mean anything in animation, tho'. Say, what are those creeplings anyway? -- ____________________________ |\ /| / Michael J. Rider / :o o: / AKA: Fluffy /________oOOo_==( ^ )==_oOOo__________ / jaguar@warwick.net / ' / / Jason_Jaguar on FurryMUCK / Hey, what's going on up here? / ---------------------------- / / Brain> Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? / / Pinky> Uh, I think so, Brain, but where will we find a / / duck and a hose at this hour? / ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 20:05:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA24177 for kats-ll; Tue, 7 May 1996 20:01:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vega.mps.com.br (mps.com.br [200.238.190.34]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA24154 for ; Tue, 7 May 1996 20:01:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [200.238.190.91] by vega.mps.com.br with SMTP (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA26701; Tue, 7 May 1996 21:04:21 -0300 Message-Id: <318EF266.751B@mps.com.br> Date: Tue, 07 May 1996 04:49:10 -0200 From: "Artur T. Hara" Organization: mps.com.br X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Kat stuff References: <9604302151.AA29624@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <19960501.174724.34@gunk.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Ben Carter wrote: > > > Er... Did anyone actually read this far? > Yes... Regards, -- Artur T. Hara hara@mps.com.br ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit the Kats site: http://rat.org/razor Visit the 3D design magazine: http://www.3dartist.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 20:20:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA24734 for kats-ll; Tue, 7 May 1996 20:16:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA24726 for ; Tue, 7 May 1996 20:15:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA42376; Tue, 7 May 1996 19:15:50 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605080015.AA42376@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: JQ and SK, Axes and Cans....... To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 19:15:50 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: from "Michael J. Rider" at May 6, 96 09:13:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > I was watching a few eps of the "Farewell Jonny Quest" marathon >and I was paying attention to the artwork done. It is exteremly good for >the year it was made and what technology was available. Yet it got the ax. > SWAT Kats has exteremly good artwork for the year it was made and >the technology available. It got canned too. Seems like there's a >connection here.......... There is a parallel with the shows' quality, but SWAT Kats and the original JQ, as good as they may look, didn't really use any "technology". Reminds me of something Peter Chung was asked in a recent Hollywood Reporter animation issue, "Are computers used in the production of AEon Flux?", no doubt asked becuase it looks so high tech. His reply was something along the lines of "Nothing we do uses techniques that weren't available fifty years ago." And I also recall a critic making the comment that Akira was an example of the future of animation, evidentally thinking that most of the animation was somehow high tech as well (and yeah, I know about the computer graphic aura hologram.) The only thing I can think of about SWAT Kats that may be high tech is the synthesized music, and possibly that few seconds of CG, if it *was* CG, in The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice. But everything besides that in SWAT Kats was done by hand with tried and true techniques. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 7 21:38:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA29596 for kats-ll; Tue, 7 May 1996 21:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA29591 for ; Tue, 7 May 1996 21:31:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA57532; Tue, 7 May 1996 20:31:52 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605080131.AA57532@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: SWAT Kats soundtrack CD and casette To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Tue, 7 May 1996 20:31:52 -0500 (CDT) Cc: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) In-Reply-To: from "ARTHUR JOHN FREDA" at May 7, 96 05:16:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Hmm... Possibly if I get enough sigs/names from people who would > like an SK soundtrack, I could e-mail toonnet and ask for an sk sound > track, like a petition. Please help, lurkers! We need all the names/sigs > we can get ! Please e-mail me with the subject "SWAT Kats Soundtrack" or > something similar. > > A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please All Right! Good idea! Back when I started up that merchandise thread I way overestimated myself by assuming that I'd jump "write" in with lots of detailed descriptions of merchandise that I'd like to see, hence the weird "part one" subject line. Allow this to be part two: I'd love for there to be a SWAT Kats CD Soundtrack made available. Ideally it would have *all* of the show's music, listed and grouped in the most logical fashion as to make the straight listening experience the best possible (The music wouldn't sound misplaced if there was no cuing up of any specific selections), and taken from the pristine(?) masters in HB archives. I haven't counted or timed any of the music except for the opening themes, so I'm guessing that they, however many selections that may mean, would all fit on a 76 minutes CD, but if not, then the soundtrack should be a dual CD like that recent 146 minute Robotech Perfect soundtrack from Streamline. As for the art reprinted on the actual CD(s) itself/themselves? Some of the better looking illustrations of the Kats to the left and right, the logo above, and the tracks contained listed on the bottom would be swell. But while the music is of course the most important thing about the release, I'd like to see a little extra effort given to making the soundtrack the best possible, which means a good booklet should be included. I've seen CD soundtracks without any kind of booklet or even a decent cover included (the American release of the Robot Carnival soundtrack comes to mind.) and it bugs me to think what could have included been instead. Often when I'm listening to a CD I'll flip through its booklet, so including one can improve the overall experience. Rather than just be a simple slip of paper than has lettering on one side, I'd like to see a hot illustration of the SWAT Kats on the cover of the booklet, and I know just the artwork for it. The best piece of SWAT Kats artwork I've ever seen was shown at the beginning of the commercial breaks during the twin episodes; Cry Turmoil/SWAT Kats Unplugged and Volcanus Erupts/The Origin of Doctor Viper. If you're not familiar with what I'm talking about, cue up your tapes and see for yourself. That'd be the perfect cover, just have the SWAT Kats standing above the words (In a red version of the same font used for the episode titles) "SWAT Kats Original Soundtrack". Inside you'd find a brief write up about the musicians and series itself, possibly a description of each selection and what it was used for, as well as the selection length down to the second (I *hate* when that's not listed everywhere.) Each page would have a bit of artwork, such as cels or promotion art in the background and maybe off to the side. I'm thinking the layout would be like that of video game manual ( http://rat.org/pub/kats/images/snes ) - in other words, whatever looks cool. And at the end of the booklet, an added bonus, 2 or more pages of images, some small, some large, of the series best artwork, both promotional, and taken directly from the master prints and selected by somebody who knows what looks good. The best example I've ever seen of this can be found in the Macross Plus Original Soundtrack Volume 1 from JVC. The back cover would be more of the same - done right, not just coldly "sufficient" as is often the case. Does it sound unlikely that a soundtrack may be released? Well, other merchandising came out after the show's demise, including the videos. SWAT Kats has by far *the*best* music of any H-B show, and an increasing number of soundtracks based on animated series are coming out (the AEon Flux soundtrack is said to be the most recent one.) H-B recently release sets of soundtrack from many of their older series, yet none those H-B properties can measure up to SWAT Kats music (Or anything else about the series for that matter.) Fred Seibert even commented on how different (and good) the music would be for SWAT Kats in Wild Cartoon Kingdom #1, "The music will be very different". With a flashy cover and halfway decent distribution and marketing, a SWAT Kats soundtrack could be a smash hit. And what do the beancounters stand to lose from such a venture? Nothing, it'd be another opportunity to rake in the money from a series previously thought deceased, and I'd be one of thousands with cash in hand. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 8 11:10:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA10529 for kats-ll; Wed, 8 May 1996 10:50:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA10522 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 10:50:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA25334 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 07:52:07 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 07:52:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199605081452.HAA25334@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats soundtrack CD and casette Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Hmm... Possibly if I get enough sigs/names from people who would >like an SK soundtrack, I could e-mail toonnet and ask for an sk sound >track, like a petition. Please help, lurkers! We need all the names/sigs >we can get ! Please e-mail me with the subject "SWAT Kats Soundtrack" or >something similar. Well, not to diss what is essentially a good idea, but after you use up the first and second season themes and some of the incidental music fleshed out to instrumental pieces, what then? Callie singing? It just seems as though you'd have about 12 minutes of material, then 6 tracks of "Ted's Best Business Decisions" (you guessed it: "silence"). Oh yeah, I heard that they lost something like 45 million bucks last year. Cool. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 8 11:19:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA09531 for kats-ll; Wed, 8 May 1996 10:45:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id KAA09497 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 10:45:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id KAA15526 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 10:44:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA25062 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 07:45:34 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 07:45:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199605081445.HAA25062@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: TurboKat Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > I would have scanned at 1200 dpi, but I couldn't really due to those darn >gray regions which were really made up of tiny little dots which became >visible at that resolution and my experimentation at 1200 dpi showed (to my >amazement) that it wouldn't have helped signifigantly anyway. If there are >better, larger, versions out there (Perhaps among the 40 images Chance loaned >Matt?), then bwtbone and bwrazor should be replaced. Yup. All the promotional images of the Kats that I've seen on boxes, packaging, things like the BSC/L etc. were all derived from that "Style Guide" thing, and it contains the "camera-ready" versions of those pics that were meant to be used as the foundation for package designs and promo literature of all kinds. (I now have the capability of scanning stuff up at the marvelous resolution of 240-300 dpi, but as it results in substandard imagery, I'll only use it for "emergencies") _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 8 11:25:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA12734 for kats-ll; Wed, 8 May 1996 11:08:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA12721 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 11:08:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA26045 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 08:10:04 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 08:10:04 -0700 Message-Id: <199605081510.IAA26045@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: JQ and SK, Axes and Cans....... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Yeah, the folks at HB just never know when they have a good thing. Mmm...let's take some time to differentiate between the different levels of "folks at H-B". Fred Seibert sits on the throne, nominally at least, and reports to Atlanta. Below him are executive producers, then producers, then the myriad directors, writers, artists etc. that make up the show. Let's just say that it appears *everyone* below Fred "knew that they had a good thing". A number of industry people of all stripes (though not associated with the show, past or present) dub Messr. Seibert as "utterly clueless", though I've had another hi-profile animation individual (again, never associated with the show) tell me that "I doubt Seibert had anything to do with it (cancellation), as he was always the one championing the program". Yeah, well...this was one voice singing contrary to the rest of a very loud choir. >Epilogue: There were ads running on TCN today for JQ videos. I guess that's > the real purpose of the marathon. No. The release of the vids and this "marathon" thing is publicity to hype the new series. It is set to air on TNT, TBS and TCN simultaneously come fall. If it fails, it won't be through lack of trying on the part of people that also tried hard with Kats. Hanna-Barbera's problem has always been one of poor management, not lack of talent. Kats showed what *can* be accomplished when everything works together, and the cancellation showed what happens when the far-sightedness of the creative types is matched by an equal level of myopia in the upper echelons of management. >"Let me throw a barrel at it!" > -Brace, on Freakazoid Ehh...hate to nitpick, but the character was "Dash O'Pepper" to Messick's "Dr. Danger". _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 8 11:40:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA13610 for kats-ll; Wed, 8 May 1996 11:24:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA13591 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 11:24:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d140.infoserve.net [199.175.157.140]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA26784 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 08:26:27 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 08:26:27 -0700 Message-Id: <199605081526.IAA26784@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Terra's Poll and fanfic POV Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net A half-digested Edo wrote: (get it? kats-digest...oh, never mind...) >Well, here's an idea of mine, make a story from the POV of your very own fanfic character, you can make that character as a character that connect the junkyard, Enforcer HQ, museum, City Hall, etc. ...and it's a *fine* idea! I generally find things written from first-person perspective to be a bit, er...distracting, but in this case it could work out well. How about a story written in the form of journal entries or something - perhaps from the POV of a "Private Detective" or Enforcer hired by a suspicious member of the Government to keep an eye on Jake and Chance (i.e. to see if they could actually be the SwatKats)? Cool. >Arrgghh!! If I ever catches the one that write a love story of either Callie and Jake or Chance and Felina, I will... I will... Nevermind, it's too violent for me to say it. Although that the idea of putting a green ribbon or a purple ribbon to the one that write it does come up. > >But seriously, the only common thing between Callie and Jake is that a LOT people like them. > >Although that if you want to ask who is the most perfect candidate to be in a love story, is say that it is Callie. IMSHO of course. You can't really do this for a couple of reasons, and these are most effectively demonstrated by checking out the portrayal of "romance" on today's TV and attempting to choose one that parallels your definition of it. I've not been very successful. Your idea of "romantic" will have the effect of confining your story to an audience of people that share your definition, where such unnecessary restriction would not apply if you merely leave romantic entanglements at the "flirting" or "anything's possible" stage. Every time that "romance" has been written into a series storyline where it had previously been avoided like the plague has failed miserably; case in point: "Moonlighting" and the old series "V". The "X-Files" has avoided developing stories along these lines despite pressure from writers and a segment of the audience to do so. Chris Carter thinks it's a bad idea, and I think it has the effect of shifting the "focus" of a particular show - be it Katsfic or 'Files - from those elements that made it successful in the first place. That, and I've *never* read a piece of fic that didn't make romantic endeavours sound like the back cover of a Harlequin Romance novel. Do I want to see Callie and Jake on a romantic level deeper than say, oh...Jenna and Balto? Not a chance. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 8 16:06:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA04287 for kats-ll; Wed, 8 May 1996 15:25:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA04282 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 15:25:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA31692; Wed, 8 May 1996 14:25:41 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605081925.AA31692@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Another Scan to be replaced... To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 14:25:41 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199605081445.HAA25062@unix.infoserve.net> from "chance" at May 8, 96 07:45:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >better, larger, versions out there (Perhaps among the 40 images Chance loaned > >Matt?), then bwtbone and bwrazor should be replaced. > > Yup. All the promotional images of the Kats that I've seen on boxes, packagin > things like the BSC/L etc. were all derived from that "Style Guide" thing, and > it contains the "camera-ready" versions of those pics that were meant to be > used as the foundation for package designs and promo literature of all kinds. In that case I should mention one more, bwlogo.gif, under drawn, was also taken from the Bike Safety Checklist, but the image was only about an inch across. It was amazingly crisp and clean, and I only had to do a little erasing of the black dots making up the "gray" region (Which were visible since I scanned at 1200 dpi) which touched it at only one spot. Nevertheless, the image of it from the Style Guide should replace it. And the only reason I'm posting this to the list is to inform everyone who might be assuming that the image there currently is ideal that it isn't. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 8 16:12:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA06433 for kats-ll; Wed, 8 May 1996 15:48:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA06325 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 15:47:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA09872; Wed, 8 May 1996 15:53:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 15:53:58 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: JQ and SK, Axes and Cans....... In-Reply-To: <9605080015.AA42376@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Technology means "current knowledge" not necessarily computers, Kevin From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 8 16:36:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA07559 for kats-ll; Wed, 8 May 1996 16:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA07496 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 16:02:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA17756; Wed, 8 May 1996 15:02:40 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605082002.AA17756@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Boo Boos To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 15:02:40 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <9605080131.AA57532@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> from "Kevin L. Knoles" at May 7, 96 08:31:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Not to be confused with two or more of Yogi's little buddy. I said a few screwy things recently and think I should clear them up: "The soundtrack is really going to be different" is what Fred Seibert said in WCK #1. I had guessed his quote earlier and as one might expect botched it. A.J., if you haven't already sent my post to toonnet, please change that part so this is corrected. Chopshop's...Chopper doesn't have a tail rotor as I thought it might have. I guess tail rotors are pretty uncommon. And, silly me, the opening theme for both season is 1 minute long while the credits theme is more like 25 seconds. I can't believe I botched that one. That's all, had to get those off my chest. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 8 16:39:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA05161 for kats-ll; Wed, 8 May 1996 15:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA05155 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 15:44:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA57714; Wed, 8 May 1996 14:43:59 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605081943.AA57714@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: SWAT Kats soundtrack CD and casette To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 14:43:58 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199605081452.HAA25334@unix.infoserve.net> from "chance" at May 8, 96 07:52:07 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Well, not to diss what is essentially a good idea, but after you use up the > first and second season themes and some of the incidental music fleshed > out to instrumental pieces, what then? Callie singing? It just seems as > though you'd have about 12 minutes of material, then 6 tracks of "Ted's > Best Business Decisions" (you guessed it: "silence"). 12 minutes? Are you certain? Did you actually go through the eps, count the number of songs and the running time of each to come up with that figure? I haven't so I can't be certain, but it sure seems like more than *12*minutes* were heard on the series. Let's see, for starters there's the 1st season opening and 2nd season openings, 2 minutes, the versions heard during the credits, another minute, and off the top of my head I can recall maybe a half a dozen bits of BGM, each of which must run about 2 or 3 minutes, and this is my gawsh awful memory we're talking about. I don't know what the total length of all the music is, but I'd guess over half and hour at least. Even if I'm mistaken and it's only something like 20 minutes, then releasing a soundtrack is still a good idea because there are soundtracks that brief for 40 some minute anime OAVs. And then there's the possibility that what we hear on the series is just *some* of the total quantity of music made. From my experience, selections are only heard in part, not whole, or only short versions are heard, and some selections are never once cut into the final mix. Like I said earlier, there's a 146 minute Robotech soundtrack out, and that's a series that seem to have a lot of repetitive music. I'll make a crude and horribly inaccurate analagy; With 146 minutes for 85 episodes, that works out to 40 minutes for SWAT Kats' 23 episodes. Given the effort put into SWAT Kats music, I doubt there are only 12 minutes, and I'd venture to guess it has more music per episode than many series, save those such as Animaniacs and Tiny Toon Adventures which had original scoring for each ep. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 8 16:53:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA08492 for kats-ll; Wed, 8 May 1996 16:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gate.garden.net (gate.garden.net [206.26.128.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id QAA08482 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 16:08:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (pb-ppp25.garden.net [206.28.208.125]) by gate.garden.net (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11505) with SMTP id AAA241 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 16:08:36 -0400 X-Sender: djclawson@garden.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Subject: Re: Terra's Poll and fanfic POV Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 16:08:36 -0400 Message-ID: <19960508200835377.AAA241@pb-ppp25.garden.net> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 08:26 AM 5/8/96 -0700, you wrote: > >A half-digested Edo wrote: (get it? kats-digest...oh, never mind...) > >>Well, here's an idea of mine, make a story from the POV of your very own fanfic character, you can make that character as a character that connect the junkyard, Enforcer HQ, museum, City Hall, etc. > >...and it's a *fine* idea! I generally find things written from first-person perspective to >be a bit, er...distracting, but in this case it could work out well. How about a story written >in the form of journal entries or something - perhaps from the POV of a "Private Detective" >or Enforcer hired by a suspicious member of the Government to keep an eye on Jake and >Chance (i.e. to see if they could actually be the SwatKats)? Cool. AWESOME! SOMEBODY WRITE IT!! (Hey chance you've got talent, why not try it?) I am not lazy or anything, but I happened to be REALLY tied up in "Children"'s sequel, which is about 6 Kb away from topping the first in length. I thought up tones of plots, but there are other works in my life I'm actually trying to get published. As for the Jake and Chance as kids story I wrote for English class, I rewrote it this weekend, and sadly, I cannot send it to the list. First of all, it has next to nothing to do with the show aside from the fact it IS backstory (no mention of enforcers or anything). Secondly, it's an extremely Jewish story (I got inspired by Philip Roth's works) and I'm actually thinking of submitting it to a magazine or something (it's about 10 pages). If I do, Chance will not be given a last name and Jake Clawson should become Jake Dawson, so it'll literally move away from the classification of "fanfiction." >>Arrgghh!! If I ever catches the one that write a love story of either Callie and Jake or Chance and Felina, I will... I will... Nevermind, it's too violent for me to say it. Although that the idea of putting a green ribbon or a purple ribbon to the one that write it does come up. >> >>But seriously, the only common thing between Callie and Jake is that a LOT people like them. >> >>Although that if you want to ask who is the most perfect candidate to be in a love story, is say that it is Callie. IMSHO of course. Why am I the only one who doesn't seem to agree with the Jake/Cally pair up?!? What it looks like from what I've seen fans say, there seems to be some sort of misconception that the females have to be divided evenly with the males. If there was the question, "Well, who'll go with Cally?" many fans who've felt the need to find one of the guys just because the show stressed their infatuation with her have turned to Jake. Personally, I can't see her with EITHER of them, and screw their lousy crushes. Jake is a scientist and and engineer, a pilot at heart. Cally is a politician. They have next to NOTHING in common. As for Chance, I can't see him settling down with anyone without his wild charisma. That's why I paired him with Felina in my stories--they're both gargoyles anyway, what's the difference? As for Jake, well . . . we all know that answer, if you read my fanfic. Romance can be worked in slowly and carefully, but some people should watch what they put in. Dr. Jake > From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 8 17:55:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA13222 for kats-ll; Wed, 8 May 1996 17:09:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (root@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA13217 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 17:09:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from JHWS9.aca.ilstu.edu by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA66376; Wed, 8 May 1996 16:09:17 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 16:09:17 -0500 Message-Id: <9605082109.AA66376@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> X-Sender: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: "Kevin L. Knoles" Subject: Re: NOTAR animation Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Of course Mook done a much better job on doing the flight scenes. > >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id Yuh, Huh. And have you ever noticed that Mook would flicker the rotors; in every other frame the rotor would disappear. The same thing was done in Akira. I don't think Hanho did that, which is a real shame, because a technique so simple really improved upon the rotor animation. Kevin L. Knoles From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 8 18:19:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA13757 for kats-ll; Wed, 8 May 1996 17:18:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (root@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA13751 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 17:18:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from JHWS9.aca.ilstu.edu by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA43012; Wed, 8 May 1996 16:18:33 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 16:18:33 -0500 Message-Id: <9605082118.AA43012@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> X-Sender: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: "Kevin L. Knoles" Subject: Re: Clay Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 03:19 PM 5/7/96 -0400, you wrote: >Since nobody's been posting lately, I've decided to tell you that I'm >making a T-Bone out of clay in art class. It looks really cool. > >A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please That does sound cool. Just out curiousity, how big is it and in what pose do you have him? I take it you're putting your work in the kiln and glazing it, right? If you've finished already, then how'd it come out? Kevin L. Knoles From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 8 18:31:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA14441 for kats-ll; Wed, 8 May 1996 17:34:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id RAA14430 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 17:34:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (root@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id RAA18985 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 17:04:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from JHWS9.aca.ilstu.edu by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA86774; Wed, 8 May 1996 16:04:25 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 16:04:25 -0500 Message-Id: <9605082104.AA86774@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> X-Sender: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: "Kevin L. Knoles" Subject: Early Kats renditions. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 02:35 PM 5/5/96 +0700, you wrote: >How different is the original TurboKat from the one that we saw on TV? > >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id Good Question. I wanna know too. All I've seen is a small poster of an early version of the SWAT Kats in WCK #1. From the way I've gone on about that article, don't get the impression that it was anything big, just a tiny mention and postage stamp size image, so insignificant that I didn't bother to scan it. But anyway, the image was of an early rendition of the SWAT Kats, T-Bone was much shorter and stockier than on the show, and Razor was a smaller Kat with a skinny little neck and a big helmet that made him look kind of dorky. They were in the blue and *yellow* suits, and the scene had a pinkish purple background. There were what looked like some small rat-like creatures, perhaps early version of the Creeplings(?), in the corners of the poster. Anyway, the TurboKat was in the background and it looked *ugly* IMO, light blue under a heck of a lot of black ink that looked like reentry burns, with an usually large nose and, and these sharp things jutting out of its nose. Above all of it was the original version of the SWAT Kats logo in black with a fairly boring font, given intentionally rough edges, and with a black and red target in the center. That's all I can remember for now. I can probably give a more accurate description if I had it in front of me. I'm just glad that SWAT Kats evolved into what is instead of staying that way. Kevin L. Knoles From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 8 18:39:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA17988 for kats-ll; Wed, 8 May 1996 18:13:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com (emout14.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.40]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA17980 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 18:13:43 -0400 (EDT) From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA04323 for kats@bort.mv.net; Wed, 8 May 1996 18:13:12 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 18:13:12 -0400 Message-ID: <960508181311_487053066@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: JQ and SK, Axes and Cans....... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> I was watching a few eps of the "Farewell Jonny Quest" marathon >>and I was paying attention to the artwork done. It is exteremly good for >>the year it was made and what technology was available. Yet it got the ax. >> SWAT Kats has exteremly good artwork for the year it was made and >>the technology available. It got canned too. Seems like there's a >>connection here.......... Hmmm... >Yeah, the folks at HB just never know when they have a good thing. >It was well done for the time. Having seen a few episodes of JQ in that >marathon (while vacuuming and generally cleaning up my usual mess) they >don't look too bad. If the writing were better they might be more >watchable. >Epilogue: There were ads running on TCN today for JQ videos. I guess that's > the real purpose of the marathon. Betcha 2 cases of tuna that Jonny'll be back in a month or so. Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa Anne Who is really, really mad at AOL right now!!! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 8 19:48:48 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA22960 for kats-ll; Wed, 8 May 1996 19:34:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host (host.warwick.net [204.255.24.254]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA22955 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 19:34:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m3-03.warwick.net by host; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0310PM) id AA08412; Wed, 8 May 1996 19:35:14 -0400 X-Sender: u1003240@host.warwick.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Light 1.5.4Fat (PowerPC) Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 19:36:06 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: jaguar@warwick.net (Michael J. Rider) Subject: Corrections Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Chance wrote: [I wrote] >>"Let me throw a barrel at it!" >> -Brace, on Freakazoid > >Ehh...hate to nitpick, but the character was "Dash O'Pepper" to Messick's >"Dr. Danger". Whoops, I haven't seen the episode in a while. At least I remembered Dr. Danger's name correctly. Dash O'Pepper sounds like something from a really old comic. -- ____________________________ |\ /| / Michael J. Rider / :o o: / AKA: Fluffy /________oOOo_==( ^ )==_oOOo__________ / jaguar@warwick.net / ' / / Jason_Jaguar on FurryMUCK / Hey, what's going on up here? / ---------------------------- / / Brain> Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? / / Pinky> Uh, I think so, Brain, but where will we find a / / duck and a hose at this hour? / ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 8 23:23:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA08502 for kats-ll; Wed, 8 May 1996 23:03:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA08484 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 23:03:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from kashmir.fdt.net (root@kashmir.fdt.net [205.229.48.16]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id WAA17023 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 22:53:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from yoda.fdt.net (buster@yoda.fdt.net [205.229.48.17]) by kashmir.fdt.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA12034 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 22:53:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 22:53:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Buster Bunny To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Fwd: JQ, SWAT Kats, and 2 Stupid Dogs (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Contained below is some E-mail I sent to ToonNet@aol.com and the responce i got back... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 16:52:01 -0400 From: ToonNet@aol.com To: buster@fdt.net Subject: Fwd: JQ, SWAT Kats, and 2 Stupid Dogs Hi there Buster Bunny...thanks for writing! You'll be pleased to know that JQ will be returning in the fall with all new episodes in the New Adventures of Johnny Quest! New episodes for SwatKats and Two Stupid Dogs are a possibilty for the new season next fall so stay tooned! Keep on watching! The Cartoon Network --------------------- Forwarded message: From: buster@fdt.net (Buster Bunny) To: ToonNet@aol.com Date: 96-05-06 08:14:43 EDT I was wondering why Johny Quest was being pulled off of TCN? Does it have something to do with the planned revival? I also wanted to say that I love SWAT Kats and 2 Stupid Dogs, as these shows are quite new are there any more episodes in the works? I haven't seen a new one for a while... Just as a side note it might not be a bad idea to finish up Pirates of Dark Water either, that was a great show! -Buster Bunny PO Box 90371 Gainesville FL, 32607 From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 9 00:19:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id AAA20035 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 00:01:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id AAA20001 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 00:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id XAA23792 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 23:31:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tole-cs-1.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-1.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.101]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id XAA05216 for ; Wed, 8 May 1996 23:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 23:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605090330.XAA05216@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Storyboards, Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net CTN Storyboard Contest: They did a promo for this a couple of days ago. You can call an 800 number, and they'll send you a form. If they decide they like your idea, they'll pay you big bux. You have to be at least 10 yrs. old to enter, well I've got that beat by 4x+! Hmmm. I've got an idea for a story set on a world populated by anthromorphic cats. The main character is a young newspaper editor named Tortie Caracal who investigates stuff & gets in trouble. It's mainly set in this big city, see, and there are these two vigilante cats who fly a jet around and save the.... What, CTN? You can't use it? You don't want it? No big bux for me? Oh, well, I'll just have to send it to Maxie! No digest from yesterday? Geez, you'd think we were all a bunch of scairdy cats! Though I'm allready on digest- wonder what happens if you're on digest & you post too much ^=^. Paul Kemner pkemner@bright.net From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 9 01:24:47 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id BAA24513 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 01:03:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id BAA24498 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 01:03:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id AAA10284 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 00:54:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA74742; Wed, 8 May 1996 23:54:21 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605090454.AA74742@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Fwd: JQ, SWAT Kats, and 2 Stupid Dogs (fwd) To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 23:54:21 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: from "Buster Bunny" at May 8, 96 10:53:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > of Johnny Quest! New episodes for SwatKats and Two Stupid Dogs are a > possibilty for the new season next fall so stay tooned! Keep on watching! > > The Cartoon Network > > -Buster Bunny Hollee Cow! Where'd they get that info?? There really might be new episodes, presumably meaning the three lost eps will completed? Were they just pulling Buster's chain or is this for real? I sure hope it is, it'd mean they've done something right for a change and we'd be looking at a real possibility of a return. Ooh, exciting stuff. I'm gonna keep my fingers crossed until they turn purple and fall off. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 9 04:54:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id EAA00732 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 04:33:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id EAA00719 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 04:33:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id DAA04260 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 03:35:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA30026; Thu, 9 May 1996 02:35:40 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605090735.AA30026@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Gamma Correction To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 02:35:40 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <9605090454.AA74742@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> from "Kevin L. Knoles" at May 8, 96 11:54:21 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net As I've said before, when I scanned the images for rat.org, virtually all of them ended up too dark and require some gamma correction. I've completed the list of what needs how much, and if you're interested, tell me via E-mail that you want a copy and I'll send it to you (It's too long for the list and sort of off-topic) But you'll have to hurry, I'll be going off-line in just a couple days. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 9 05:21:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id EAA00807 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 04:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id EAA00789 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 04:36:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id DAA02512 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 03:17:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d145.infoserve.net [199.175.157.145]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA12454 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 00:19:58 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 00:19:58 -0700 Message-Id: <199605090719.AAA12454@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Fwd: JQ, SWAT Kats, and 2 Stupid Dogs (fwd) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> of Johnny Quest! New episodes for SwatKats and Two Stupid Dogs are a >> possibilty for the new season next fall so stay tooned! Keep on watching! >> >> The Cartoon Network >> >> -Buster Bunny > > Hollee Cow! Where'd they get that info?? There really might be new >episodes, presumably meaning the three lost eps will completed? Were they just >pulling Buster's chain or is this for real? I sure hope it is, it'd mean >they've done something right for a change and we'd be looking at a real >possibility of a return. Ooh, exciting stuff. I'm gonna keep my fingers >crossed until they turn purple and fall off. Hmm. This is completely from left field. Nobody get too worked up until I check, 'kay? I would *hope* that I'm on the short list to hear info like the above, but then again.... _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 9 05:24:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id EAA00733 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 04:33:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id EAA00724 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 04:33:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id DAA03851 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 03:30:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d145.infoserve.net [199.175.157.145]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA12972 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 00:33:19 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 00:33:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199605090733.AAA12972@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Storyboards, Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >CTN Storyboard Contest: They did a promo for this a couple of days ago. You >can call an 800 number, and they'll send you a form. If they decide they >like your idea, they'll pay you big bux. You have to be at least 10 yrs. old >to enter, well I've got that beat by 4x+! Heh. A friend was one of the panel of judges for the last couple of years, and you would not *believe* some of the things people submit. John Kricfalusi (of "Ren and Stimpy" fame) even submitted a couple of 'board under an alias-du-jour without realizing that one of his friends was sitting on the panel. Heh. That little bit of subterfuge went nowhere fast. Hmmm. I've got an idea for a story >set on a world populated by anthromorphic cats. The main character is a >young newspaper editor named Tortie Caracal who investigates stuff & gets in >trouble. It's mainly set in this big city, see, and there are these two >vigilante cats who fly a jet around and save the.... What, CTN? You can't >use it? You don't want it? No big bux for me? Man, I was *so* tempted to fire off a 'board featuring the Kats in a sarcastic scenario featuring Fred Seibert, Ted Turner and the TPS gang, but I was advised against it. Some people just have no sense of humour. "Two Stupid Producers" was created as an outgrowth of this self-same storyboard contest, but the writer was likewise advised not to pursue it. Sheesh. Oddly, the "prizes" awarded in this pseudo-philanthropic Turner contest don't seem all that enticing in terms of recompense for someone's blood, sweat and tears, and someone who was lined up to do a WPT for them suggested that the somewhat paltry "prizes" were in fact representative of the professional WPT pay-scales! Heh. At least *someone* still remembers where their funny-bone is. >No digest from yesterday? Geez, you'd think we were all a bunch of scairdy >cats! Though I'm allready on digest- wonder what happens if you're on digest >& you post too much ^=^. Yeah, I'm looking into that. Apologies all round. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 9 09:55:38 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id JAA22104 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 09:48:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA22094 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 09:48:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d145.infoserve.net [199.175.157.145]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA19855 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 06:51:31 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 06:51:31 -0700 Message-Id: <199605091351.GAA19855@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: S.K.I.Q. and New Eps Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Okay, I found out that TCN *will* be airing "Katseye News Special Report/ S.K.I.Q." during an upcoming Kats "Super-chunk", but still don't have anything definite on any possible new eps. I'll make some calls. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 9 15:24:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id OAA16288 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 14:25:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id OAA16277 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 14:25:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id NAA28476 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 13:52:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.170] (dyn1170a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.170]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id AAA12572 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 00:52:04 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 00:50:42 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Drawings Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@lists.mv.net On Mon, 6 May 1996 15:36:28 -0400, ARTHUR JOHN FREDA wrote: > I was watching a few eps of the "Farewell Jonny Quest" marathon=20 >and I was paying attention to the artwork done. It is exteremly good for=20 >the year it was made and what technology was available. Yet it got the ax. > SWAT Kats has exteremly good artwork for the year it was made and= =20 >the technology available. It got canned too. Seems like there's a=20 >connection here.......... I think there is a moral here somewhere... Good thing always get the worse t= reatment. >A.J. Freda On Mon, 6 May 1996 15:32:23 -0400, ARTHUR JOHN FREDA wrote > About a week ago, I made a paper-airplane turbokat with a lot of=20 >paper and tape. It flies! Amazing! it can fly, the TurboKat really actually can fly! >I have a cockpit, tail fins, flaps at the end=20 >of the wings, and all that's missing is retracable wings! Oh, the wings. >(If I did that, I don't know how the HECK they could stay on.) Hmmm, stay on the air? BTW, how do you build it anyway? >When will the TurboKat models be in the /drawn area on rat? Yeah, when? I want to draw the TurboKat, so that if I make some mistake on= the drawing I wouldn't feel so bad. >Who drew the katsvg.gif, kats04.gif, bwtbone.gif, bwrazor.gif,=20 >katsmetl.gif? And also who draw jakesg.gif? He seem rather big on this picture. The drawings kats04.gif and katsmetl.gif seem to be used on the SWAT Kats= video boxes. Why? >These pictures are good drawing practice and look cooler=20 >than on the cartoon. Is it possible on obtaining a "how to draw" from=20 >whoever made those pics? I'm guessing Christian, because of they way the=20 >kats are drawn, but I'm not sure. I'm too also curious on who draw those pictures. chance, do you know who is= the one that draw those drawing? BTW, the TurboKat and the Glovatrix in those drawing look mighty different= than the one we saw on the cartoon. The TurboKat look like it only had two= engines, meanwhile the Glovatrix have claws and is connected to the= back-pack. The design of these two thing seem to be a lot different than= the one we saw on the cartoon. >That would make a cool part of the 3rd=20 >season opener. (The katsvg.gif) Instead of the turbokat like in the 1st=20 >season one. Well, a scene of the guys with a rocket-pack in the intro is a sure= definetly yes by me. >A.J. Freda ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Coming my queen!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 19:11:48 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA00808 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 16:55:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA00795 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 16:55:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA01389; Thu, 9 May 1996 17:01:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 17:01:41 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Rasslor, Randy Savage.... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net After seeing the "Dial 'M' from Monkey" ep. where Rasslor's voice was done by Randy Savage, it seems as though Randy has something here with H-B. (Note his SK manathon thing.) Does he have an e-mail address? Maybe he'll help us bring back Kats. A.J. Freda "Dial 'M' for Monkey" comes in 2nd to SWAT ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us Kats on my list. "Tails" on IRC Monkey! Monkey! Monkey! Monkey! Monkey! SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 19:29:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA09781 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:23:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA09774 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:22:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA21989; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:29:38 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 16:29:38 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Sountrack Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Since I haven't gotten many replies to the soundtrack (only 2), I will ask chance for all the names of all the people on the list and include them all unless you e-mail me and say that you would not like it if a soundtrack of SK was released. Could you send me the names, Chance? (Or did Dana take back the golf clubs again?) A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 19:30:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA09781 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:23:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA09774 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:22:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA21989; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:29:38 -0400 Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 16:29:38 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Sountrack Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Since I haven't gotten many replies to the soundtrack (only 2), I will ask chance for all the names of all the people on the list and include them all unless you e-mail me and say that you would not like it if a soundtrack of SK was released. Could you send me the names, Chance? (Or did Dana take back the golf clubs again?) A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 20:06:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA19544 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 20:41:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA19539 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 20:41:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA84962; Thu, 9 May 1996 19:41:03 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605100041.AA84962@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: How many missles did the MetalliKat Express fire? To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 19:41:02 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Has anyone ever tired to count the number of missles the MetalliKat Expresse fired at the Enforcers in Metal Urgency? My jaw when on the floor when I first saw that scene, and it still is whenever I watch it. I think missle are fired from about 54 locations on the ship, but I'm not sure if that the number of actual missles or not. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 20:13:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA01132 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 17:01:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA01110 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 17:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA01687; Thu, 9 May 1996 17:07:40 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 17:07:40 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: S.K.I.Q. and New Eps In-Reply-To: <199605091351.GAA19855@unix.infoserve.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Thu, 9 May 1996, chance wrote: > Okay, I found out that TCN *will* be airing "Katseye News Special Report/ > S.K.I.Q." during an upcoming Kats "Super-chunk", but still don't have anything > definite on any possible new eps. I'll make some calls. A SUPER CHUNK?!?!?!?!?!? There was one of the kats in March, and They only re-show a superchunk of the same topic every 6 months! Will they show it after they show "Katastrophe"? And does Katseye have a 1st or 2nd season opening? I must know this so I know which tape to put in the VCR. :) A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 20:21:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA13095 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:54:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id QAA13088 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:54:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sonic.maxie.com (sonic.maxie.com [199.250.231.29]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA10444 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 16:57:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 16:57:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605102057.QAA10444@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@underdog.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Maus Subject: New Fan Fiction Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Some new fan fiction which has been received over the last week or so has just been posted: "The Wild Side of Feral" by Anubis Soundwave (part 3) "Blood Moon Rising" by Kay Chang (kaychang@eden.com) (2 of 2 parts) "The Tortie Papers" by Paul Kemner (pkemner@bright.net) (part 1) My appologies for the delay in posting these, as usual, I was quite behind in reading e-mail. As a result, in the future please post fan fiction to the following address for faster service: stories@maxie.com ------------------------------------------ Max_Maus on Furtoonia, FurryMuck, and SPR E-mail: max@maxie.com WWW: http://www.maxie.com/~max Swat Kats! http://megakat.maxie.com Care Bears! http://www.maxie.com/carebears ------------------------------------------ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 20:26:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA00520 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 16:51:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA00513 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 16:51:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA01254; Thu, 9 May 1996 16:58:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 16:58:29 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Fwd: JQ, SWAT Kats, and 2 Stupid Dogs (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Wed, 8 May 1996, Buster Bunny wrote: > Hi there Buster Bunny...thanks for writing! You'll be pleased to know that > JQ will be returning in the fall with all new episodes in the New Adventures > of Johnny Quest! New episodes for SwatKats and Two Stupid Dogs are a > possibilty for the new season next fall so stay tooned! Keep on watching! Hmm... Possibility? We could use the new JQ as a weapon against Ted to make him bring back SK. "You brought back Jonny, so why don't you bring back Kats?" I like 2 Stupid Dogs too. "Girl Scout Cookies!" I feel the same way. :) > The Cartoon Network A.J. Freda "I could crush your skull, I could break your ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us bones, but I could never break your spirit" "Tails" on IRC -Rasslor talking to Monkey after the match. Monkey! Monkey! Monkey! Monkey! Monkey! Monkey! Monkey! Monkey! Monkey! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 20:52:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA18884 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 20:24:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id UAA18869 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 20:24:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id UAA05137 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 20:18:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.185] (dyn1185a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.185]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id HAA25273 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 07:18:10 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 07:16:47 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: animation... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sun, 5 May 1996 14:35:28 +0700, Edo Andromedo wrote: >>Of course Mook done a much better job on doing the flight scenes. On Wed, 8 May 1996 16:09:17 -0500 Kevin L. Knoles wrote: > Yuh, Huh. And have you ever noticed that Mook would flicker the >rotors; in every other frame the rotor would disappear. The same thing >was done in Akira. I don't think Hanho did that, which is a real shame, >because a technique so simple really improved upon the rotor animation. Another good thing about Mook's animation. If you see a scene where a monitor/TV screen is present, that thing (monitor/TV screen) flickers. And just like Kevin would say, "it added a little bit realism." ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Coming my queen!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 21:06:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA28914 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 16:44:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id QAA28905 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 16:44:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA00972; Thu, 9 May 1996 16:51:15 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 16:51:15 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Clay In-Reply-To: <9605082118.AA43012@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Wed, 8 May 1996, Kevin L. Knoles wrote: > That does sound cool. Just out curiousity, how big is it and > in what pose do you have him? I take it you're putting your work in the > kiln and glazing it, right? If you've finished already, then how'd it > come out? It's about 6-7 in. tall, and I'm not sure of the pose yet, I might just have him standing. I have almost everything but the arms done. My catholic school doesn't have a glazing, but I'll probably put it on myself, if/when i get any from an art store. My art teacher is going to put mine all alone in the kiln at about 1,000 degrees instead of 2,000 just incase it might explode. The body part is about an inch thick, and the head has about an 1in and a quarter diameter. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 21:29:12 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA02575 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 17:08:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA02570 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 17:08:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA02080; Thu, 9 May 1996 17:15:06 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 17:15:05 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Fan Club Newletter (FCNL) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Be paitent, I have finished the cover page (bwtbone.gif) and the contents. The cover took a long time to color, I also added a gradient fill of red and blue to give it that 2nd season end of the opening effect. Look for some POGs on the last page, too. Send your addresses to Walter! Here's what's in #1: Fan Letters: Please, e-mail me with letters, like dear razor, dear t-bone, etc. What Ted's been screwing up in H-B lately: Some opinions on Dexter's Laborotory, and some other stuff. Send your opinions to me! Fan Art: Send some fan art to me, preferably on disk via snail mail, until i am allowed to uudecode. I do not have a scanner, so don't send me paper, and if you do, I will do an attempt to paint it onto the screen. Specials: Just different activities, etc. this issue there's POGs, though I personally don't play POGs often, I just though it would be fun. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 21:41:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA22430 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 21:03:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA22425 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 21:03:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d153.infoserve.net [199.175.157.153]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA24198 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 18:05:54 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 18:05:54 -0700 Message-Id: <199605100105.SAA24198@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: New Katseps? PLEASE READ Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Okay, two Turner insiders have told me that they are not aware of any plans, embryonic or otherwise, for new episodes of either "Two Stupid Dogs" or "SwatKats". I suggested that the "Cartoon Network" rep that sent the reply to Buster may've just logically assumed (as we all have at one stage or another) that the amount of fan-mail received at the Toonnet address would have some bearing on pursue/cancel decisions, and he/she simply didn't check with the overlords before composing the reply. It happens. I haven't finished digging though, and stranger things have happened. Just don't get your hopes up too high based on that TCN communique - for the moment, at least. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 21:44:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA25195 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 21:47:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA25182 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 21:47:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d153.infoserve.net [199.175.157.153]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA26766 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 18:50:30 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 18:50:30 -0700 Message-Id: <199605100150.SAA26766@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats soundtrack CD and casette Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Kevin wrote: > 12 minutes? Are you certain? Did you actually go through the eps, count >the number of songs and the running time of each to come up with that figure? Nah. I didn't do anything that, um..."thorough", but I just don't recall too much in the way of incidental music and sonic wallpaper that would lend itself to easy translation into some cohesive instrumental piece. I mean, you could do it with a bit of work, and do the old standby of extra tracks "inspired by" the Kats track, and it *would* be something I'd buy. And yeah, I'd imagine there's a ton of stuff that got left on the cutting-room floor for one reason or another, and I'd also bet that some of it is as good as what we *did* hear in the various eps. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 21:50:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA18881 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 20:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id UAA18871 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 20:24:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id UAA05145 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 20:18:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.185] (dyn1185a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.185]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id HAA25280 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 07:18:13 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 07:16:50 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Poll Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Ryank Kelley wrote: >I assume that people reading have a clue to real life (and you say that you >don't [and it shows!!]). I like DJ Clawson and the guy who wrote T-Bone's >Steaks. Simon Leet is the one who wrote 'T-Bone Stakes'. >>>7. If so, which episode? >> >>A romance-type episode. > >I'm writing one, but I don't think ANYONE will like it's style, so I'd have >to edit it to the EXTREME! >I don't know why, but I like seeing T-Bone picking on himself. Call me crazy! Hmmm, T-Bone and T-Bone. Interesting. >>>10. Are we *ever* gonna try and RPG? (this answer can also say if >>>you want to do it or not) > >I'm thinking of doing RPG fanfics. Okay, who will do the RPG fanfics? >None taken! I only bite when I'm highly irritated! Er, I think that my nightmares are getting worse now. >Ryan "Casshan"Kelley Oh yeah Ryan, who is Julie? To Terra: >>I already send 1-6 to Terra, but I think that I also to send 6-10 to the >list, since that I got something to say to the list > >What? I'm sorry, Edo, but could you send it again? Well Terra, didn't you already replied it? >Terra Chang ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Coming my queen!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 21:52:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA14383 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 19:33:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA14378 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 19:33:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA76880; Thu, 9 May 1996 18:33:41 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605092333.AA76880@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Drawings & Stuff To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 18:33:40 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at May 10, 96 00:50:42 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >I have a cockpit, tail fins, flaps at the end=20 > >of the wings, and all that's missing is retracable wings! > > BTW, how do you build it anyway? This makes me wonder about a paper airplane version of the TurboKat. And by that I mean a simple folded version, not a compicated assembly. I seem to recall some famous origamist would make paper versions of popular aircraft, and I figure with a lot of work and planning I might be able to construct something as well, and it might even fly too. Course, I say that now.... > The drawings kats04.gif and katsmetl.gif seem to be used on the SWAT Kats= > video boxes. Why? I think so, I haven't memorized the names of too many. I believe they were made specifically for the videos, were they not? > I'm too also curious on who draw those pictures. chance, do you know who is= > the one that draw those drawing? The Tremblays did each, correct? > BTW, the TurboKat and the Glovatrix in those drawing look mighty different= > than the one we saw on the cartoon. The TurboKat look like it only had two= > engines, meanwhile the Glovatrix have claws and is connected to the= > back-pack. The design of these two thing seem to be a lot different than= > the one we saw on the cartoon. The Tremblays are good artists, but I presonally prefer something not quite as sketchy as the styles they displayed on the video and video game boxes. I find art with better, more 3-D renderings of technology appealing to my eye and angular patch inking instead of the heavily feathered kind. Sort of like what animators would draw the cels like if they had a dozen years and $100 million to work with. > Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 21:53:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA03482 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 17:27:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id RAA03470 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 17:27:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tole-cs-2.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-2.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.102]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id RAA03828 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 17:26:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 17:26:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605092126.RAA03828@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Hearts, Flowers, and Tuna Fish! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Dr. Jake wrote: >Personally, I can't see her with EITHER of them, and screw their lousy crushes. >Jake is a scientist and and engineer, a pilot at heart. Cally is a politician Callie is more of a civil servant than a politician. She actually does some work! Though you should remember {as Callie does!} (in the probably misquoted words of Robert Heinlein) that the terms "Civil Servant" and "Civil Master" are synonymous! Chance & Jake probably slick their hair back and get competitive when *any* reasonably attractive femkat walks in the garage. Chance wrote: >That, and I've *never* read a piece of fic that didn't make romantic endeavours >sound like the back cover of a Harlequin Romance novel. Bravo- much better to suggest something as a remote possibility that never quite happens. Keep the suspense up, keep the readers (and your characters) frustrated! I agree that it's been the downfall (or maybe a symptom of writers running out of steam) in many TV series. It makes an OK last episode, though. At least with a fanfic, there's no actual damage to the series, like there is when the stuff messes up real scripts. Edo (I think) wrote: >Well, here's an idea of mine, make a story from the POV of your very own fanfic >character, you can make that character as a character that connect the junkyard, >Enforcer HQ, museum, City Hall, etc. Chance wrote: >...and it's a *fine* idea! ... How about a story written in the form of journal entries >or something - Hey you guys! Stop hackin' into my pc files! Geez, I don't know how you do it, but if you don't stop I'll have to sic a (reverse paranoid) conspiracy freak kat on you! ^_^. Begin*** Birthday Alert !!! *** Birthday Alert !!! *** I just heard on the radio today that tomorrow (5/10) is Gary Owens birthday, and that he's 60! Too bad we didn't know about it beforehand, or we could have sent him a card, thanking him for his great work on SK! Well, If the forewarding spirits are out there, Happy B-day Gary! I hope in your case when you say "Bring me chopper backup!" you aren't asking for a second set of false teeth! End*** Birthday Alert !!! *** Birthday Alert !!! *** ************************* Paul Kemner pkemner@bright.net ************************* From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 21:55:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA23783 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 21:37:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA23778 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 21:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tole-cs-3.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-3.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.103]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id VAA01819 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 21:37:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 21:37:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605100137.VAA01819@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Cancelation idea from SF Dominion Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Here's an interesting exchange from the SF Dominion Board: (I've separated the posts with equals signs) ============================================================================ An alternative for cancelation ?!?! Posted on 5/6/96 by Neko The 'merchandise' reason sounds like a weak excuse to just about everybody. The 'too violent' reason hasn't run true, either, though maybe it's closer to the mark. I was watching 'Destructive Nature', in which Dr. Viper infests the new Megakat office towers with his creatures. He catches Callie prowling around the building, and he relates to her his plans for turning the city back into a swamp. 'It will be ssssssooo beautiful!' he enthuses 'No more ugly ssssteel and plasssstic, just my beautiful sssswamp!', or something to that effect. His eyes brim over with tears as he anticipates the completion of his work. Hello? Does this mean that Dr. V. is an environmentalist kat (an extreme one, admittedly)? He lives in the swamp, in harmony with nature. Maybe his mutations are needed to help the wetlands-life survive and triumph against the bad kat technology. Could someone have brought the Dr. V. episodes to Ted's attention? How would this sit with the same guy that came up with the Planeteers? ============================================================================ Hmm...Dr. Viper as an eco-extremist? Posted on 5/7/96 by Kevin_K Another excellent point Neko, I hadn't really considered that Viper might be considered an eco-extremist, or eco-terrorist if you will. That idea doesn't sit too comfortably with Ted's PR about environmentalism either (As evidenced by Captain Planet). Makes me wonder what other agendas the villians may have. ============================================================================ Exhibit "B"- Scene from Blowup Posted on 5/7/96 by Neko For further evidence, I present exhibit 'B' from the unused script "Blowup" by Lance Falk (MegaThanx to the rat.org Kats bulletin board- where you can read the entire script!) ********************************************************************** Razor HITS a graphic on his console, reading: PIRANHA MISSILES. RAZOR Two down, one to go...Piranha missiles away! WIDE ON TURBOKAT AND SEQUOIA Two teeth-snapping PIRANHA MISSILES (from show 4) LAUNCH from the jet, right into the mouth of the Sequoia. The Turbokat PULLS UP at the last minute to avoid slamming into the tree! ANGLE ON TURBOKAT OTS VIPER WHOOSH! The Turbokat's belly ROARS up, mere feet from Viper. A BLAST of (non-flaming) jetwash KNOCKS the villain off his feet! WIDE ON SEQUOIA It does a frantic dance, pounding at itself with its massive arms in an attempt to get at the Piranhas within. (Please play it _serious_, not a comedic antic. This monster is being eaten from within!) SEQUOIA (monstrous screams) *VERY* WIDE ON SEQUOIA The Turbokat banks around it at a safe distance. The tree begins to collapse in itself, then simply EXPLODES in a puff of wood debris and sawdust. (We're too far away to see Viper.) *************************************************************** A SEQUOIA? Dr. Viper has a really big 1,000 year-old tree helping him, and those nasssssty Ssssswat Katsssss explode it with piranha missiles? D'ya think I'm onto something here? ============================================================================ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 21:58:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA25691 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 21:50:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA25685 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 21:50:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA39826; Thu, 9 May 1996 20:50:20 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605100150.AA39826@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: More about Music To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 20:50:20 -0500 (CDT) Cc: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I was curious as to how much music the show has, since I had never payed that much attention to it and instead opted to mearly listen and not keep track. So this afternoon I watched an ep and skimmed through large portions of several more. I figure that The Deadly Pyramid has a good fifteen minutes or more worth of music in its 20 minutes, but maybe I'm off and there's only about 10. What they played sounded like mostly clips of longer themes, so there may be a considerable deal of music even if one just limits to a single episode. As I rewound the tape I checked and skimmed other second season eps and heard many of the same themes, but every so often I would notice that a longer portion of a theme was played, and I caught a few themes that I didn't hear in TDP. From that brief check through Cavern of Horrors, Razor's Edge, SWAT Kats Unlpugged, Cry Turmoil, The Origin of Doctor Viper, and Volcanus Erupts, I figure I heard what would amount to another ten minutes or so of music not heard in TDP. But keep in mind that since I wasn't writing anything down, only glancing at the tape counter, my estimates may be *way* off. I then went through a few of the first season eps that I remember as having more music in some of their best scenes not heard in those other episodes. Night of the Dark Kat, Metal Urgency, and The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice all appeared to have several more minutes of music that seemed more commom in the first season, perhaps exclusive? At that point I stopped (I had spent about two and half hours watching/listening). I don't know too much about how animated series are put together musically, but from this brief check it seems as if the musicians create a large amount of music early on in the production for each season without that much of the scripts in mind since some themes worked fine in many instances - As good as the music is, much of it is quite generic, and the selections were frequently picked and chosen as several second sound bites to set a tone. Since themes were so frequently faded out or into one another, and other portions were heard in other episodes, then I'd say that the total length of any single selection may be at least a couple minutes, and that's assuming that there's only one version of it (There may be a few in the same sense that the opening and credits theme differ in length but sound very similar.) My check was so rushed and disorganized that I haven't come up with any solid figures, but I'd venture to guess that SWAT Kats has at least 30 minutes of total music, and perhaps much more, more than a hour or so. Maybe my figures are overly optimistic, I am making some assumptions about the music I didn't hear, but even if I'm wrong, just what I heard in those episodes is more than enough to make a sufficiently lengthed worth while soundtrack. Given what I've heard in movie soundtracks that run over an hour for a 90 minute film, it makes sense that there'd be as much. If, sometime before this afternoon when I really went through and paid attention to it, I had been asked how to describe SWAT Kats music, I probably would have said mostly Queen and Metal like with occasional bits of more standard soft themes and adventurous BGM, but now I realize that those are just the most prominent type of music, not the majority. Listen to the sort of tragic music played in Chaos in Crystal when a Kat is turned to crystal and shattered before his friend, or the softer selections heard when Jake is moping and depressed in Razor's edge, and don't forget what's heard when Jake and Chance meet the old lady to give her a tow at the the end of NotD. Themes such as those take up a much larger portion of the total music than I had previously imagined. There's also the sort of creepy music heard at the beginning of TPART and for other Pastmaster appearances and in the scenes where Jake and Chance fight the (soon to be headless) MetalliKats in MU. I hadn't really accounted for the amount of simple music heard when the Kats were just hanging out either, and the adventure themes (Which TDP is *full*of*.) are lengthy too. After all is said and done, I'm left wondering if the Queen and Metal music isn't really just a small, but especially prominent part of the whole soundtrack. And when trying to listen to the music, it was also kind of frustrating hearing the themes in pieces, and sometimes only very briefly. A complete CD soundtrack is now more important to me than ever before, and considering the quality of the music, I think H-B could really make a lot of money with one. One of these days I gotta go through the eps and make an official tabulation, ...one of these days. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 22:06:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA28153 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 22:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA28148 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 22:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA78138; Thu, 9 May 1996 21:31:59 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605100231.AA78138@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Feral's Sidearm To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 21:31:59 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Was that thing formally a shoulder mounted weapon, a tank cannon or what? I mean, that is one *big* gun. I betcha the caliber's measured in meters. But really, is Feral's sidearm standard Enforcer equipment, or do you think it was made specifically for him and the fact that he looks like one of the few Kats strong enough to actually use the thing effectively? |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 22:08:25 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA27511 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 22:13:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA27506 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 22:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA33582; Thu, 9 May 1996 21:13:39 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605100213.AA33582@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Enforcer Symbol? To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 21:13:39 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Has anyone ever drawn the Enforcer symbol, and possibly scanned it? I once made a crude version, but the angles were taken from memory and I made some pretty bad choices for them. It's kind of difficult to judge from the episodes since it often seems to somehow look different. If it's not among the many images in the Style Guide (I hope it is, and it makes sense that it would be.), I think it'd be a good idea for somebody to draw an "official" version. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 22:25:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA14078 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 May 1996 10:57:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id KAA14065 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 10:57:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id KAA23401 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 10:57:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.160] (dyn1160a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.160]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id VAA15048 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 21:55:24 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 21:54:04 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: SK Publicity Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Tue, 7 May 1996 03:38:18 +0700 Edo Andromedo wrote: >>Hmmm.... How about... "The effect of SWAT Kats to the world if Turner >>decided to give SWAT Kats a big publicity"? On Mon, 6 May 1996 21:13:32 -0400 Michael J. Rider wrote: >It would be better if they gave it a renewal or better yet a movie deal. >If there were more interest in them that _might_ become a possibility >someday. Of course first we need to attract more SWAT Kats viewers, and I think that one of the way to get them is through publicity. >Even finishing the last three episodes would be _something_. Yes, it would be something, but will it be a good thing? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Coming my queen!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 22:32:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA02290 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 23:22:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (root@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA02285 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 23:22:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from JHWS19.aca.ilstu.edu by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA59736; Thu, 9 May 1996 22:22:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 22:22:50 -0500 Message-Id: <9605100322.AA59736@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> X-Sender: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: "Kevin L. Knoles" Subject: Re: Early Kats renditions. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Good Question. I wanna know too. All I've seen is a small >poster of an early version of the SWAT Kats in WCK #1. From the way Now that I do have it in front of me I can give a more accurate description. Their flight suits were blue and black, but not yellow. I think the yellow was actually supposed to be a lighting effect. Razor did kind of look like a dork, but it wasn't really because his helmet was too big, but rather because he was giving a salute while resting one arm on a small missle standing upright next to him, with his opposite foot on a box, and his sleeve on the arm he was resting on the missle was several inches too long so it drooped. The background was yellow and organge, and the ground was pinkish purple. The SWAT Kats logo was as I described it, but with red borders on the letters. Oh, and the little rat creatures which were along the bottom of the poster as well as the corners, were blue with yellow glowing eyes. Kevin L. Knoles From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 22:38:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA27920 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 22:25:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA27915 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 22:25:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA63552; Thu, 9 May 1996 21:25:11 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605100225.AA63552@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: 24 fps? To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 21:25:11 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net In what instances have there been 24 frame per second animation on SWAT Kats? I know there have been several instances, and being the intense nitpicker I am, I wanna know more. I seem to recall a little in each of Mook's first season eps, and I think there was some in the better looking second season ones too. And though it's not really animation, whenever you see something flicker rapidly (Like the TurboKat during Speed of Heat or the Enforcer Chopper rotors.), that's almost alway at 24 fps. Let's see, some specific instances I can recall of 24 fps animation...The train carrying gold in SWAT Kats Unplugged, the TurboKat POV though the hanger's runway, the MetalliKat express followed by Enforcers in Metal Urgency, portions of the Macrobots in MU, the centrifuge scene in The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice. I know there are tons more, but I just can't recall any specifics immediately. Anyone know of some others? |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 22:45:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA01727 for kats-ll; Thu, 9 May 1996 23:05:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA01722 for ; Thu, 9 May 1996 23:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA61596; Thu, 9 May 1996 22:05:27 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605100305.AA61596@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Lots of scientists? To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 9 May 1996 22:05:26 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Is it just me or does SWAT Kats feature an impressive number of scientists and inventors? There's Dr. Greenbox, Dr. Street, Dr. Sinian, Dr. Purvis/Viper, Dr. Zyme, Professor Hackle, Dr. Ohm (I think that's his name. He was in SK's Unplugged.) and of course, who could forget, Doc Konway. I don't think I'm leaving out any (but then again, if I did wouldn't I include them? ;-> ) Certainly Jake/Razor and to a lesser extent Chance/T-Bone are inventors as well, and if Turmoil did the perfecting on that engine herself as she claims, then she's another. The episode Doctors of Doom was even going to have a reappearance of Dr. Street too. Is the appearance of all the scientists and inventors intentional, out of necessity of plot, or is there some other reason for it? It's also a lot like Star Trek with their prominence. I guess a large number of scientists, engineers, and other technical Kats *would* explain why MegaKat City has such advanced technology. It's also nice that the writers didn't really stoop to the "Mad Scientist" stereotype, and the one instance where that might be considered (Dr. Purvis/Viper), they countered with his colleague, Dr. Zyme. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 22:47:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA13747 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 May 1996 10:56:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id KAA13521 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 10:55:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.160] (dyn1160a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.160]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id VAA15061 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 21:55:34 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 21:54:15 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Welcome to the Dark Side. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Mon, 6 May 1996 22:01:53 -0400 Brother Buford wrote: >I just had an idea about Dark Kat... > >If you remember, I asked about Dark Kat earlier. > >DK could be based on Darth Vader. Well... >There *are* similarities between the two. >I realize that Darth Vader worked for the Empire and Dark Kat works for no >one but himself, Who said that he work for himself? Could it be that he is just a messenger of doom from a far more evil villain? Dark Kat appear in 'The Dark Side of the SWAT Kats', and he is still a very evil kat there, could it be that the Dark Kat we know and the Dark Kat from the Dark Side is the same Dark Kat? >but DK may be based on Vader. DK may even be part machine, >because who knows what he looks like under his cloak. Hmmm, a tiny kat in an exo-frame? :) >He is extremely >strong as well, and that could have something to do with it. And where did >that that purple fur come from? Genetic manipulation? :) >Brother Buford >On Mon, 6 May 1996 22:01:53 -0400 Brother Buford wrote: >>DK could be based on Darth Vader. Well... >>There *are* similarities between the two. > >[stuff snipped] On Tue, 7 May 1996 19:05:58 -0400 Michael J. Rider wrote >He's a pretty typical "heavy" character just like Vader. Those are all the >hallmarks of a big nasty villian. They _are_ very similar otherwise. And both of them are very dark and mysterious. >The idea of DK being a cyborg is cool. I don't know what the Tremblays had >in mind for him, but it is reasonable. Well, his action figures does look like a cyborg. >The purple doesn't have to mean anything in animation, tho'. Well, is either purple or green, and I think that I rather see a purple Dark Kat than a green Dark Kat. Besides, we already have a green villain, Dr. Viper. >Say, what are those creeplings anyway? I said it once, I said it again, genetic manipulation! We have our very own Jurassic Park here in MegaKat. :) ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Coming my queen!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 23:01:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA09179 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 May 1996 10:32:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id KAA09156 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 10:32:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id EAA06599 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 04:00:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA51384; Fri, 10 May 1996 03:00:24 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605100800.AA51384@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Poster Nitpicks! To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 03:00:24 -0500 (CDT) Cc: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I'm one of us fortunate enough to have a poster of his own. I heard it was cool and when I got one I was glad to see that such good artwork, the images of T-Bone and Razor as they appear in the Bike Safety Checklist and just T-Bone as he appears on the action figures were used for it, but nitpick I shall... The lower background of the post is green, obviously intended to simulate grassy ground, and there are small ink marks places below the figures to act as shadows. I consider that a mistake, the images should have been left as is with no attempt as simulating any kind of shadow, and since the marks are so minor anyway, they don't really contribute anything to the overall appearance. The image of T-Bone is flipped from the way they appear in the checklist. I don't know what way is "correct", but I'm upset that the two don't coincide, and since I've looked at the checklist as the only source of the images for so long, I've grown attacked to the pose as it is. The exact coloring of the details in those images is sometimes rather variable. I consider the Kats gloves to have blue highlights (As shown in The Deadly Pyramid), but the poster says red, I feel the kneepads should be red (They just look better that way.), but the poster says blue, there's also disagreement on the masks/bandannas (Alos blue in TDP), and the areas on Razor's chest and abdomen are very unclear and I disagree about how they should be colored as well. The images overlap. I know not too much of a poster could be made without overlapping the two images, but it means that certain portions are missing. The top of the image is very close to the blue color that they used to form the border of the logo, and the lack of contrast makes it difficult to see. They should have used a single red border and not messed with two different border colors for different parts of the logo (And the same can be said for the logos as they appear on the videos too. Well, if they were colored correctly to begin with.) I don't really consider the colors deep enough. The fur tones look about right (But I think Razor is a *little* darker), but the blues aren't dark enough, a bit more navy colored would help, and the reds are too orange. Well, I that's all I have to say about the poster. I guess there's just not as much to nitpick as there is for the videos. At least I got some of you to lose consciousness... |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 10 23:02:45 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA09184 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 May 1996 10:32:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id KAA09160 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 10:32:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id DAA06484 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 03:58:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA91180; Fri, 10 May 1996 02:58:26 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605100758.AA91180@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Video Nitpicks! To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 02:58:26 -0500 (CDT) Cc: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Finally, some nitpicks! And I do mean *nitpicks*. When I first learned that there were going to be videos made of SWAT Kats, I was very pleased, but I was also hoping that they would would be done the right way. To me, it's important that videos not just have high technical quality, but that they are put together in the right format and have good packaging. I want the box to look good on my shelf too, and I know that if it does, then it will sell more copies by being so eye catching. As soon as I could I placed an order for all three of them at Suncoast Video (I've said it before and I'll say it again: You should too!), and they arrived just a couple weeks later. The price was excellent IMO, $13 for two eps is a good deal. Though I'm a big advocate of stuffing as many eps as possible onto a video while keeping it recorded at SP, two eps per video is entirely understandable and being fairly standard in the industry, fine. (Though ideally they should have released four videos with all of the episodes for under $25 per video.) I have no criticims of the eps themselves, or at least none here since that's irrelevent. What I will argue is the choice of which episodes they released. I think trying to base the videos on villians was a mistake since the series can't be readily classified as such; There would have to be breaks in the consistency to include all of the episodes, some of the videos would have to be about the other villians, or in the case of Cavern of Horrors, none at all. And even of what episodes were released, there is inconsistency since they aren't always about those particular villians as is the case with Katastrophe. I'm glad that a disproportionate amount of Mook's first season episodes were released, since those are more important for home video, IMO. But unfortunately the lack of a Pastmaster video kept my favorite ep, The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice from being released. I consider the best looking of second season eps to be the most important for release, and I feel that sales would have been higher if The Deadly Pyramid, for instance, had been among the videos, so the idea of restricting the release to first season eps was another mistake. I'd say in order of importance, Unikely Alloys ranks highest becuase of its animation quality, and the fact that it was shown so infrequently in syndication. After that, I rank according to how good the animation is, becuase storyline doesn't improve with picture quality. I feel the packaging for all three videos is quite good. I've seen animated series released to video with horrible box art (ExoSquad's box art is one example), and thankfully SWAT Kats was sparred such a fate. While I do somewhat prefer the style of animation art to the Tremblay's artwork, their work looks excellent, and backed with what looks like computer coloring, it's terrific. But something I'm a little upset by is the way the artwork on video two is offset a little ways to the right, leaving the far left side blank save the coloring. Don't people get fired when things like that occur in comic books? The other glaringly obvious detail is that of Razor's white nose, something repeated on all three videos (It's dark gray dangitt!). For some reason the SWAT Kats logo isn't once the correct color either. All they needed to do was use a certain color for the border to provide some contrast, and then they could have made the logo red and blue for all of them and it would have looked just fine. Too bad that they didn't becuase the miscoloring sticks out like a sore thumb. On the back of the videos we find 3 peices of artwork, which I'm guessing is by the Tremblays, but may not be. They look fine and I'm glad that they were included. For some reason, however, T-Bone and Razor don't appear but Jake and Chance do (and I do like the artwork of each.) Don't you think it's odd that we never see those guys in the same place at the same time? ;-> I would have preffered to see larger images of T-Bone and Razor and accompanying synopses since those who don't know who the SWAT Kats are would better be introduced to the characters that way. It would also have been nice if there were perhaps different images for every video, but what we got was OK. On the videos themselves, the label is rather cheap. A simple photocopy decal (And one of the decals of mine is from a machine that was low on toner.) that's not stuck on there too well, and like so many cheap videos out there, it's sometimes on crooked. At least I can be thankful the labels at least stay put, because I've had others come off. The write ups of the series and the individual epsiodes on the back of the videos, while better than nothing, are not anywhere as near good as they could be. I would have preferred a less juvenille, more accurate description (*Rocket*-blasting action?) of the episodes cointained within. For some reason I keep hearing Krusty the Clown read these things in my head and scream "Hey Kids!" with the occasional laughter. And as for what's contained on the videos themselves? Well, I'm not gonna nitpick the episodes. After all, who can argue with perfection? But I do find much to criticize about how everything is organized on them. To begin with, there'a an episode of Space Ghost - I like it, and I'm glad it was included for free, but I might prefer to see it at the end of the video rather than at the begining as I've heard it has been done for the recent Jonny Quest videos. Fast fowarding through 13 minutes of tape to get to the first episode can be tiresome. When the time for the first commercial break comes, we see the first secret file instead. I actually have sort of mixed feelings on the inclusion of the secret files where they are, in place of some of the commerical breaks. On the one hand they might appear to "get in the way" of the episode and destroy the pacing of some scenes, but on the other hand, watching the action build to a climax, fade out, and immediately fade right back in again wasn't intended. The writers had to adjust for the commercial breaks, and they wrote the episodes with those gaps in mind. It's a lot like what Patrick Stewart was saying in regard to ST:TNG on home video. In his opinion the problem should be sidestepped entirely with special versions of the episodes made specifically to get around the commercial gap, and given the tendency of ST:TNG to build up prior to the commercial breaks, I can see why he felt that way. The erasure of the gap is analogous to including them in a movie for broadcast on television - It is ultimately destuctive to the timing. The inclusion of the secret files fills the gap and provides the needed pause, and I know if they weren't there, I'd probably not have seen them as many times as I have. I recall there being character data at the the end of Guyver videos as well, and having them tacked on like that at the end was ackward and made for boring viewing. But going back to the previous hand (I'm not an octopus ;-> ), I find myself sometimes fast forwarding through the secret files or at least being tempted to, and simply relying on my familiarity with the episode to carry me through the lack of a gap (Though of course fast forwarding in itself can take time and provide a gap as well). So ultimately, I'd have to say that they should not be in place of any of the commercials, but I can certainly understand why they might choose to place the secret files where they are in the videos. After the secret files listed at the end of the first episode play, we aren't treated to the credits, but instead get the second episode title. I don't know all the differences between the two episode credits, but certainly the listing of whether the animation studio was Hanho or Mook is one. By deleting the first season episode titles, Turner is crediting Mook with Hanho's animation (Shouldn't there be some type of legal precedent against that?), and hiding that information from anyone who might be curious as to why the episodes look different. *Very* irresposible. And since the second intro is gone, we, the fans, have been deprived the opportunity to see it again and give us that important and oh-so-needed adrenaline rush before beginning the second viewing. I want to watch the opening so bad that I sometimes cue up the tape to the first one before fast forwarding to watch the second episode (Well, when I intend on only watching the 2nd episode that is.) The opening is there for a reason, and it should never be removed. The best example of an animated series I've seen released to video in the right format has got to be The Adventures of the Galaxy Rangers. There are not only five episodes per video in SP mode, but their opening and credits proceed and follow every one, just as they should. I just wish more releases were done that well, and SWAT Kats is sadly one that's misseed the mark due to incompetent editing. Thankfully the videos are recorded in the highest quality possible. The speed is of course SP, and the image is about good as video tape will allow, as is the sound quality, crisp stereo which doesn't contain the slightest hint of crackle even at high volume. It's good to know that Turner is at least making certain his video releases are technically good. Still conscious after all that? Well, maybe my next post, Poster Nitpicks, will be sure to put you to sleep... |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 01:27:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA08292 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 May 1996 22:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA08287 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 22:53:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA24930 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 19:56:51 -0700 Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 19:56:51 -0700 Message-Id: <199605110256.TAA24930@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Rasslor, Randy Savage.... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >After seeing the "Dial 'M' from Monkey" ep. where Rasslor's voice was >done by Randy Savage, it seems as though Randy has something here with >H-B. (Note his SK manathon thing.) Does he have an e-mail address? Maybe >he'll help us bring back Kats. Never seen "Dial M for Monkey" (it's a takeoff of the famous Hitchcock thriller "Dial 'M' for 'Murder'"), but turner.com used to have an e-address for WCW wrestling and those imprisoned within, so you might try there. Come to think of it, a pro-wrassler is just about on Ted's level in terms of conversational skills, and besides - haven't we tried everything else? (Oh YEAH!!!! I'm gonna take Jane's 'Work-Out Video and....YEAH!!!!) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 01:27:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA08169 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 May 1996 22:50:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id WAA08162 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 22:50:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id WAA08660 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 22:49:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA24888 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 19:52:30 -0700 Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 19:52:30 -0700 Message-Id: <199605110252.TAA24888@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: New Episodes? Not... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Definitely no new eps of Kats. Also, we aren't the only ones a bit peeved that such bad info was distributed by TCN, and I think a few people are going to wind up in deep sh.......(-aving cream?) as a result. I hope they go easy, it seems as though some eager-to-please guy just got a bit ahead of himself. I think most of us realized it was a mistake as we were reading it, right guys? _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 01:38:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA05827 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 May 1996 22:40:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA05813 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 22:40:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA24604 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 19:43:03 -0700 Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 19:43:03 -0700 Message-Id: <199605110243.TAA24604@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: S.K.I.Q. and New Eps Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >On Thu, 9 May 1996, chance wrote: > >> Okay, I found out that TCN *will* be airing "Katseye News Special Report/ >> S.K.I.Q." during an upcoming Kats "Super-chunk", but still don't have anything >> definite on any possible new eps. I'll make some calls. >A SUPER CHUNK?!?!?!?!?!? There was one of the kats in March, and They >only re-show a superchunk of the same topic every 6 months! Will they >show it after they show "Katastrophe"? And does Katseye have a 1st or 2nd >season opening? I must know this so I know which tape to put in the VCR. :) On my tape it has a second season opening, but that was off of TBS, and they did some strange things with the credits. Um...I wouldn't sweat the numerical order there, A.J; though it was supposed to be the first ep in the second season (technically after "Katastrophe"), it doesn't have any kind of continuity and could've been shown absolutely anywhere in the rotation and be "right". TCN didn't say *when* it would air, but they advertise their "Superchunk" things in advance, no? _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 01:39:52 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA08786 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 May 1996 23:08:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA08760 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 23:07:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA25528 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 20:11:07 -0700 Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 20:11:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199605110311.UAA25528@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Sountrack Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Since I haven't gotten many replies to the soundtrack (only 2), I >will ask chance for all the names of all the people on the list and >include them all unless you e-mail me and say that you would not like it >if a soundtrack of SK was released. Eyaahhh...despite obviously very good intentions, this is a bad idea. It's a bit like putting a stamp on the local Phone Book and mailing it to Tedco, having first put up a notice in the local Laundromat saying "oh, by the way...if you want your name crossed out....." > Could you send me the names, Chance? (Or did Dana take back the >golf clubs again?) I got 'em until the 18th, or until Dana gets back - whichever occurs first. The CD is a good idea, but Turner isn't in much of a listening mood at the moment - if they ever were - and won't be paying much attention to 73 people that they're already painfully aware of. "A+" for effort though! _________________________________________________________________ "Mister Mayor?" "Yes, ah....which one are you again?" "..'Razor', Mr. Mayor" "Yes, ah...'Razor', what can I do for you?" "Mr. Mayor? I feel it's my civic duty to point out that something died on your head." _________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 01:40:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA03482 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 May 1996 21:48:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA03458 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 21:48:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from net-7-212.austin.eden.com (net-4-150.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.150]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id UAA19797 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 20:47:56 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 20:47:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199605110147.UAA19797@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Fan Club Newletter (FCNL) X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Be paitent, I have finished the cover page (bwtbone.gif) and the >contents. The cover took a long time to color, I also added a gradient >fill of red and blue to give it that 2nd season end of the opening >effect. Look for some POGs on the last page, too. Send your addresses to >Walter! Huh? Wha? what happened? News letter? When did that happen? Huh? What? Ahhhhhhhh! (Oh, BTW, my address is: Terra Chang 901 Weston Lane Austin, Texas 78733 Someone else send it to Walter fer me, please, if he doesn't get it, I think I've lost the God-d****ed e-mail address! >Here's what's in #1: Oh goody. (Guess where that's from! ;) ) >Fan Letters: Please, e-mail me with letters, like dear razor, dear >t-bone, etc. Uhhhh . . . "dear Razor, my best friend wants to elope to Paris with you. Just so you know." >What Ted's been screwing up in H-B lately: Some opinions on Dexter's >Laborotory, and some other stuff. Send your opinions to me! Dexter's La-bor-ra-tor-ry (Imagine whoever's Dexter's voice saying that, okay?) was okay. Most sucked. >Fan Art: Send some fan art to me, preferably on disk via snail mail, >until i am allowed to uudecode. I do not have a scanner, so don't send me >paper, and if you do, I will do an attempt to paint it onto the screen. I cannot do that, as I stink at drawing. 'Nuff said. >Specials: Just different activities, etc. this issue there's POGs, though >I personally don't play POGs often, I just though it would be fun. Hey A.J., can I help in the newsletter writing? I can do stories (of course and I promise, with a certain DJ Clawson in mind, to keep my stories less depressing. But BMR will be a depressing story. Whadaya 'spect from a vampire story?) please sir? ;) >A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please >ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! >"Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club >SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS Ahhhh, now *that's* over with . . . Terra Chang "I didn't make the world, I just try to live in it." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "We PROTEST you calling us little kids. We prefer to be called 'vertically impaired pre-adults.'" --Yakko Warner From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 01:40:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA18052 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 May 1996 23:58:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA17877 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 23:58:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl11.redding.snowcrest.net (sl11.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.75]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA04493 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 20:58:51 -0700 Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 20:58:51 -0700 Message-Id: <199605110358.UAA04493@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Casshan Subject: Re: A Pole--er, I mean a Poll (There; that's better...) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >The name... > DAN RAMOS > my net alias is MILES You have the same net as my idiot brother uses for everyday use! > (Today's my birthday!!!) > Oh! I'll get the saw and the blowtorch! (Don't ask!) _______________________________________________________________ (Retarded)..... To heck with this! I don't want this crud anymore! ----------------------Ryan "Casshan" Kelley--------------------------------------- SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Casshan!.... I grow weary of that name." Android "Black King" BK1 _______________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 01:41:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA12358 for kats-ll; Fri, 10 May 1996 23:54:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA12353 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 23:54:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl11.redding.snowcrest.net (sl11.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.75]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA04375 for ; Fri, 10 May 1996 20:54:35 -0700 Date: Fri, 10 May 1996 20:54:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199605110354.UAA04375@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Casshan Subject: Re: New Intro. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >-> Edo Andromedo wrote: >-> > >-> > OK, let suppose that a third season will be in the make. What will >-> he intro to be? >-> >-> Obviously, Queen inspirate. Rock'n Roll!! >-> -- If I were to create a second opening, I'd play the second season in reverse with a few changes. You should hear it. It hardly sounds reversed at all. >Today, I (Jedi Master LouAllen `Louie' Wheeler writes.... >I think that that would be cool, but something really die-hard. Really >a driving beat. Something that knocks you out of your seat Also; if John Williams did the soundtrack for SK, with >the London Symphony Orchestra playing it, what would it sound like? Let >us wonder..... Symphony? Yohan Bach? What a concept! > > OH MY GOD! IT'S THE SOUND PROMO!!! >A long time ago--I mean Not to long ago--Crud! Well, sometime other >than this, on a planet far, far away..... Well lewt's see... How about 581 years into the future. > It is a time of desperation for the citizens of MegaKat City, as the >Evil Kat Empire (DK, Viper, etc.,) reeling from the destruction of the >most terrible weapon known to Kat-kind, the DeathDog, was destroyed in a >valiant effort by the Alliance to Restore the Enforcers, along side of >the SWATKats. Emperer DarkKat has ordered the Dark Lord of Time, the >PastMaster, to find and destroy the hidden Rebel base on the ice >continent Kloth, and to find Chance Furlong and turn him to the Dark >Side of Haura-Fusia.... Let me see.... Year 2577 A.D. (1996 C.E.) in another dimension.... It is a time of desperation for the citizens of MegaKat City, as the Followers of Mybyss reeling from the destruction of the most terrible weapon known to Kat-kind, the Ooyah Omega, obtained in a valiant effort by the Archeivers, along side of the SWATKats and the Cybotronic Super Squad. Essence Mybyss has ordered the Dark Lord of Time, Aug (Archeiver), to find and destroy the hidden Light Archeivic base on the ice planet, Maurra, and to find Chance (Monollyth) Furlong and turn him to the Dark Side of Haura-Fusia, an organization called the Dark Archeivers. > >Let's just think about that. Jeez. I don't know why I just did that, >and I have no idea how I came up with that storyline. Talk about on the >spot improvising--hey, that'll be my next project! I'll do a SWATKats >version of Star Wars! Yeah, that's it! NOOOOOOO! NOT THAT! IT INFESTS YOUR LIFE MORE THAN THE SWAT KATS INFEST MINE! You play that stupid card game non stop every day! Where will all this Ringo All- Ztarr's Warz of Morons end? (I hate Ztarr Warz, as if you didn't get my drift.) > Oh, and by the way Ryan; don't >bother to yell at me for this post. I've read yours. Too late. Even I don't have to talk about SWAT Kats all my life. I may think it all my life, but I don't nag you with the Archeivers Saga do I? > This is >completely on-topic. It's about SK, isn't it? Mabye..... > And don't any of you >give me that bull about 'not disgracing SK by giving it a Star Wars >plot.' They're two different ganres! Fluke Skyhopper dosn't go with T-Bone, and Waitress Leah makes Callie look bad, at least I think. > Hey, look at Liomrut Yrc: Cry Turmoil to a Batman: the Animated >Series theme? So I'm not overly obcesses about Batman. It's a Batman fanfic after all, no matter how weak! > Oh well. I can name at least 1 person who would LOVE >this aside from me. Edo, I'll send you a copy when I'm done. Or I'll >send it to Maxie. Or if that doesn't work, I'll send a copy to Terra, >who might post it to Maxie for me. (I wouldn't trust Ryan with doin' >anything for me that involves Ringo All- Ztarr's Warz of morons, including posting 1 measly >little story.....) Well good. You give me anything of that type. I byte! (sure I'll post it, but anything Ztarr Warz will be edited out, so expect only these words to show up: and or but if as are was were the it if is) _______________________________________________________________ (Retarded)..... To heck with this! I don't want this crud anymore! ----------------------Ryan "Casshan" Kelley--------------------------------------- SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Casshan!.... I grow weary of that name." Android "Black King" BK1 _______________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 06:25:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id GAA15981 for kats-ll; Sat, 11 May 1996 06:06:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id GAA15976 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 06:06:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.132] (dyn1132a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.132]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id RAA29358 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 17:06:08 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 17:04:49 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Sountrack Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net chance wrote: >_________________________________________________________________ >"Mister Mayor?" >"Yes, ah....which one are you again?" >"..'Razor', Mr. Mayor" >"Yes, ah...'Razor', what can I do for you?" >"Mr. Mayor? I feel it's my civic duty to point out that something died on your head." >_________________________________________________________________ Arrggghhh!!! He got fleas! ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Coming my queen!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 06:36:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id GAA15974 for kats-ll; Sat, 11 May 1996 06:06:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id GAA15969 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 06:06:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.132] (dyn1132a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.132]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id RAA29348 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 17:05:51 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id (Unverified) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 17:04:33 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Early Kats renditions. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >At 02:35 PM 5/5/96 +0700, Edo Andromedo wrote: >>How different is the original TurboKat from the one that we saw on TV? On Wed, 8 May 1996 16:04:25 -0500 Kevin L. Knoles wrote: > Good Question. I wanna know too. All I've seen is a small >poster of an early version of the SWAT Kats in WCK #1. What is WCK #1? >But anyway, the image >was of an early rendition of the SWAT Kats, T-Bone was much shorter >and stockier than on the show, and Razor was a smaller Kat with a >skinny little neck and a big helmet that made him look kind of dorky. Does it look like the drawings that A.J. mention recently? Is the style the same? >They were in the blue and *yellow* suits, and the scene had a >pinkish purple background. Pink?! And we think that yellow and green sky is kinda ... 'weird'. >There were what looked like some small >rat-like creatures, perhaps early version of the Creeplings(?), in >the corners of the poster. I want to see it! >Anyway, the TurboKat was in the >background and it looked *ugly* IMO, light blue under a heck of a lot >of black ink that looked like reentry burns, Probably getting that burns from all of its supersonic flights. :) >with an usually large >nose and, and these sharp things jutting out of its nose. Sharp things? >That's all I can remember for now. I >can probably give a more accurate description if I had it in front of >me. Can you scan it? I think that the rest of us on the list want to see that image, no matter how small it is. >I'm just glad that SWAT Kats evolved into what is instead of >staying that way. Well, I hope that SWAT Kats evolved in each new episode, the problem is, there is no new episode. Lets just say that they are in 'suspended animation' and not cancelled. Get it? 'suspended animation' :) Ahh... Nevermind. >Kevin L. Knoles ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Coming my queen!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 09:24:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id IAA25245 for kats-ll; Sat, 11 May 1996 08:54:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id IAA25228 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 08:53:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id IAA08649 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 08:48:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA01627; Sat, 11 May 1996 08:55:38 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 08:55:36 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: New Fan Fiction In-Reply-To: <199605102057.QAA10444@underdog.maxie.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Max wrote: > "Blood Moon Rising" by Kay Chang (kaychang@eden.com) (2 of 2 parts) Whenever you see "Kay Chang", it's "Terra Chang". She uses her mom's account. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 12:22:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA03952 for kats-ll; Sat, 11 May 1996 11:27:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Fox.nstn.ca (fox.nstn.ca [137.186.128.12]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id LAA03947 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 11:27:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ts1-01.hfx.iSTAR.ca (ts1-01.hfx.iSTAR.ca [137.186.7.21]) by Fox.nstn.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA29941 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 12:27:50 -0300 (ADT) Message-Id: <199605111527.MAA29941@Fox.nstn.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Erin O'Connell" To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 12:22:39 +0000 Subject: Re: Video Nitpicks! Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net As a deprived (of Kats) Kanadian, I'd like to ask if anyone out there knows if SunCoast (as mentioned in your article) has any sort of Snail Mail catalog so's one could order from them? Thx!!! Erin From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 12:38:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA03853 for kats-ll; Sat, 11 May 1996 11:26:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gate.garden.net (gate.garden.net [206.26.128.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id LAA03848 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 11:26:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (pb-ppp16.garden.net [206.28.208.116]) by gate.garden.net (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11505) with SMTP id AAA132 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 11:27:26 -0400 X-Sender: djclawson@garden.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 11:27:26 -0400 Message-ID: <19960511152725574.AAA132@pb-ppp16.garden.net> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hey! Sorry about this, but how can I get on the SWAT Kats fan club? I remember one being announced a while ago, but my e-mail wasn't working to well then and I had some trouble responding! Thanks. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 12:59:05 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA03731 for kats-ll; Sat, 11 May 1996 11:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Fox.nstn.ca (fox.nstn.ca [137.186.128.12]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id LAA03725 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 11:21:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ts1-01.hfx.iSTAR.ca (ts1-01.hfx.iSTAR.ca [137.186.7.21]) by Fox.nstn.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA29104 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 12:20:52 -0300 (ADT) Message-Id: <199605111520.MAA29104@Fox.nstn.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Erin O'Connell" To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 12:15:41 +0000 Subject: Re: Sountrack Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I did reply to your message (don't know if I was one of the 2 or not) but I'm not sure if the response got through - my E-Mail has been totally freaking out the last few days. haven't been able to retrieve any messages for two days - and the way this group talks (types) I figured my computer would crash with all the new messages once I got it up and running again. 'Tweren't too bad, tho. Oh, BTW, I was interested in the soundtrack. Erin From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 13:29:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA11059 for kats-ll; Sat, 11 May 1996 13:00:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA11048 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 13:00:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA09611; Sat, 11 May 1996 13:06:50 -0400 Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 13:06:49 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <19960511152725574.AAA132@pb-ppp16.garden.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sat, 11 May 1996, DJ Clawson wrote: > Hey! Sorry about this, but how can I get on the SWAT Kats fan club? I > remember one being announced a while ago, but my e-mail wasn't working to > well then and I had some trouble responding! Thanks. > > Dr. Jake just send Walter your address, and you'll recieve the 1st fan club issue as soon as it's completed. I think his address is wkoziol@ix.netcom.com I am currenlty working on the first issue, and I ship the disks to Walter and he prints them out and mails them. If I had a color printer this could be much easier. Walter would probably love a donation to pay for the color printouts and a new color cartridge when it wears out. :) His color printer's going to get a workout from my FCNL (Fan Club NewsLetter) pages! I'm using gradient fills and much more. hehehe. :) It's looking awesome! A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 13:29:12 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id MAA08283 for kats-ll; Sat, 11 May 1996 12:34:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA08274 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 12:34:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d155.infoserve.net [199.175.157.155]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA14861 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 09:38:02 -0700 Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 09:38:02 -0700 Message-Id: <199605111638.JAA14861@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Early Kats renditions. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> Good Question. I wanna know too. All I've seen is a small >>poster of an early version of the SWAT Kats in WCK #1. From the way > > Now that I do have it in front of me I can give a more accurate >description. Their flight suits were blue and black, but not yellow. >I think the yellow was actually supposed to be a lighting effect. >Razor did kind of look like a dork, but it wasn't really because his >helmet was too big, but rather because he was giving a salute while >resting one arm on a small missle standing upright next to him, with >his opposite foot on a box, and his sleeve on the arm he was resting on >the missle was several inches too long so it drooped. Okay, I think WCK must've run pics from the same generation of concept drawings that spawned the first pic in Mark Lungo's SwatKats article, and a pic of the guys running towards our POV in that "Toon" article some time back. Picture coming up with those designs at the H-B level, then being told to "age" your audience five or six years. You end up with what we're familiar with, don't you? _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 13:29:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id MAA08236 for kats-ll; Sat, 11 May 1996 12:31:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id MAA08231 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 12:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id MAA02372 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 12:31:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d155.infoserve.net [199.175.157.155]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA14701 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 09:34:19 -0700 Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 09:34:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199605111634.JAA14701@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Drawings & Stuff Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Kevin wrote: (and sorry, I haven't gotten through most of my mail yet!) >> The drawings kats04.gif and katsmetl.gif seem to be used on the SWAT Kats= >> video boxes. Why? > > I think so, I haven't memorized the names of too many. I believe they were >made specifically for the videos, were they not? > >> I'm too also curious on who draw those pictures. chance, do you know who is= >> the one that draw those drawing? > > The Tremblays did each, correct? Tremblays did the front cover art for each of the three Home Videos, and also the "scene" of the kat-guys doing something-or-other on the back. The drawings for the front covers were done specifically for the videos and don't appear anywhere else, and were done because the box-art submitted by Hanna-Barbera to the Tremblays for approval, well..."wasn't". The individual pics of Jake and Chance on the back of the vidboxes (and portions of the character descriptions) are taken directly from the "Style Guide", and were drawn, I think, by Lance Falk. > The Tremblays are good artists, but I presonally prefer something not quite >as sketchy as the styles they displayed on the video and video game boxes. >I find art with better, more 3-D renderings of technology appealing to my eye >and angular patch inking instead of the heavily feathered kind. Sort of like >what animators would draw the cels like if they had a dozen years and $100 >million to work with. The earliest Tremblay kat-drawings had the guys and the TK a lot more "cartoony" then what made it to the screen, and the more "radical" and "hard-edged" stuff like the vid-box art seems to have evolved along with a similar direction in the series itself. Christian&Yvon's early promotional poster of "The Giant Bacteria" looks little like the artwork seen on the vid-boxes, but somehow manages to scream "SwatKats" just the same. My ideal version of the Kat-guys and their environment is probably a cross between "Unlikely Alloys", "Mutation City", and "Night of the Dark Kat" (from memory, and subject to revision). _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 13:29:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id MAA07684 for kats-ll; Sat, 11 May 1996 12:14:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA07677 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 12:14:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d155.infoserve.net [199.175.157.155]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA13969 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 09:17:47 -0700 Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 09:17:47 -0700 Message-Id: <199605111617.JAA13969@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: "Jonny" politics, SwatKats, and Fondacom... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Some Day other than This Day, A.J. wrote: > Hmm... Possibility? We could use the new JQ as a weapon against >Ted to make him bring back SK. "You brought back Jonny, so why don't you >bring back Kats?" I like 2 Stupid Dogs too. "Girl Scout Cookies!" I feel >the same way. :) I think it works out something like this. Turner's got something like 30 million bucks invested in everything from the salaries of "Real Adventures of..." staffers right down to Hadji underwear, and their focus right now is going to be to recover some of that expenditure in terms of revenue from the show - and to the exclusion of everything else, it would seem. They've "hedged their bet" by doing this "Dexter's Lab" series for their own outlets, and some contract animation on things like "Dumber and Dumber", but neither of those efforts cost much in comparison to "Jonny". If they were contemplating new eps of Kats (not merely finishing the three they have), they couldn't do it in time for fall in any event; there just isn't time to assemble the necessary crew, facilities, arrange for "slots" in the now-busy schedules of Mook or Hanho. It would be a logistical nightmare. However, one way or the other, JQ *will* likely have a bearing on any future revival of Kats as a series. If 'Jonny' fails, Tedco could either interpret it as a failure of expensive TV animation in general, or could simply realize it was just the wrong decision concerning the wrong program at the wrong time. If it succeeds, Fondacom might realize "that thar's gold in them there hills", and start resuscitating other properties - like their plans to revive "The Jetsons" in some fashion. Everyone I've talked to that was associated with the production of "SwatKats" realizes that the show is an instant classic, and it seems to have much support in the more sensible areas of the Turner organization at present. For the moment, all eyes are on "Jonny" and the Return-On-Investment expected come fall. I wouldn't look for much to happen concerning a kats revival in the interim, though I personally can't fathom why - given the amount of katmail that TCN gets - those last three episodes haven't been given the green light to get animated. I mean, it doesn't really make financial sense *not* to animate them, and they will have given themselves a "back door" to reviving the Kats should "Jonny" not pan out as hoped. But, then again, that's just the opinion of a fellow lowly fan. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 15:12:52 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA15557 for kats-ll; Sat, 11 May 1996 13:59:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA15548 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 13:59:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA32530; Sat, 11 May 1996 12:59:47 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605111759.AA32530@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Viper's Eco concern? To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 12:59:47 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199605100137.VAA01819@brutus.bright.net> from "Paul Kemner" at May 9, 96 09:37:12 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > D'ya think I'm onto something here? Sure, that's why I made the follow-up that I did. But something I've been meaning to say but never got around to it was the fact that before he became Dr. Viper, Elrod Purvis was a money grubbing anti-environmentalist, he didn't care a bit about the appilcation of the formula, only how he could get rich off of it. Does this put the Eco-pro folks in a negative light, or am I just making conspiracy theories? |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 16:56:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id OAA19012 for kats-ll; Sat, 11 May 1996 14:47:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA18926 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 14:47:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA15264; Sat, 11 May 1996 13:47:18 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605111847.AA15264@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: New Intro. To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 13:47:18 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199605110354.UAA04375@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> from "Casshan" at May 10, 96 08:54:35 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > OH MY GOD! IT'S THE SOUND PROMO!!! Let's see, Tiny Toon Adventures: How I Spent My Vacation. Shirley the Loon and Foulmouth are about to watch a movie, when Shirley shouts: "Guy! Sound System Promo!" (I thinkit was "Guy", I dunno valley duck talk.) [Most everyone ducks and braces themselves. Those who don't are sent hurtling.] "THUD, The audience is now deaf" the screen reads afterwards Think about something similar with Kats music - *Very* nice. > Well lewt's see... How about 581 years into the future. > > > It is a time of desperation for the citizens of MegaKat City, as the ... This is just *too*cool*. > Let me see.... > Year 2577 A.D. (1996 C.E.) in another dimension.... > > It is a time of desperation for the citizens of MegaKat City, as the ... Even better. > ----------------------Ryan "Casshan" > Kelley--------------------------------------- Goin' off line in about an hour... |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 16:57:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id OAA19518 for kats-ll; Sat, 11 May 1996 14:59:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA19513 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 14:59:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA50462; Sat, 11 May 1996 13:59:07 -0500 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9605111859.AA50462@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Early Kats renditions. To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 13:59:07 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at May 11, 96 05:04:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > What is WCK #1? Sorry. Wild Cartoon Kingdom, a cool mag that only had five issues. I have all of 'em. =-> > >skinny little neck and a big helmet that made him look kind of dorky. > > Does it look like the drawings that A.J. mention recently? Is the style the sa me? I don't know. I think the first page of Mark Lungo's Animato! #32 article had something similar. > Pink?! And we think that yellow and green sky is kinda ... 'weird'. Well... I miscalled it. It was the ground. But a pinkish sky isn't that strange, I think we've seen it on the show once before. > >Anyway, the TurboKat was in the > >background and it looked *ugly* IMO, light blue under a heck of a lot > >of black ink that looked like reentry burns, > > Probably getting that burns from all of its supersonic flights. :) Well, they probably weren't meant to be that, just looked that way. > >with an usually large > >nose and, and these sharp things jutting out of its nose. > > Sharp things? You'd have to see it to know, but then I have no way for you to. > >That's all I can remember for now. I > >can probably give a more accurate description if I had it in front of > >me. > > Can you scan it? I think that the rest of us on the list want to see that imag e, no matter how small it is. Well, I don't really know how to covert images to text for E-mailing, and since I'll be off-line in mere moments and that particular lab is closed...no, sorry, I can't. > >I'm just glad that SWAT Kats evolved into what is instead of > >staying that way. > > Well, I hope that SWAT Kats evolved in each new episode, the problem is, there is no new episode. Lets just say that they are in 'suspended animation' and not cancelled. Get it? 'suspended animation' :) Ahh... Nevermind. Hey, I get it. If and when they do revive it, they'll probably just say "Cancelled? Don't be ridiculous, it was just... an extended hiatus, yeah that's the ticket..." > Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id OK, now that I'm gonna be off-line, anyone who wants to contact me, write to: Kevin L. Knoles 13648 NCR 3400 East Mason City, IL 62664-7350 Hope to hear from any of you! |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 20:24:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA05127 for kats-ll; Sat, 11 May 1996 19:00:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id TAA05119 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 19:00:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tole-cs-1.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-1.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.101]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id SAA03238 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 18:59:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 18:59:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605112259.SAA03238@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Re: Viper's Eco concern? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 12:59 PM 5/11/96 -0500, Kevin Knoles wrote: >... before he became Dr. Viper, Elrod Purvis was a money grubbing >anti-environmentalist, he didn't care a bit about the appilcation of the formula, >only how he could get rich off of it. Does this put the Eco-pro folks in a negative >light, or am I just making conspiracy theories? I'd probably take a more romantic view. All of Elrod's money-grubbing qualities were burned away (death & mutagens can do that to ya, I guess.) Dr. V. may be missing a soul (ref to "s o u l" being the letters lost in the Elrod Purvis to Dr Viper transition), but maybe his soul was rotten! So now he's a heroic environmentalist! With MKCity being on the ocean, apparently at the end of a river (thus the bridges), the city is built smack-dab on the delta and estuary- prime wetlands. So let's feel a bit sorry for Dr V. when his schemes are foiled. Hello? Hello? Well, Kevin's probably off line by now. What a shame. I guess I'll have to send the above by messenger cat. On the origin/what the heck are creeplings- I wonder if the creeplings are mutated or possibly just *visible* Greeblings? In this world, Greeblings absolutely infest human dwellings, but humans with their poor eyesight can't see them. My feline sources tell me that Greeblings are responsible for all sorts of rotten stuff, and that one of the major duties of a guardian cat is to eliminate them. When a cat jumps on newspaper, rips up the rug, gets on the kitchen counter, etc. they're really catching and killing Greeblings. When a cat just stares at a wall for no apparent reason, they're keeping an eye on a Greebling that's out of reach. There's a scientific paper on them that shows up on rec.pets.cats occasionally, but I haven't managed to snag a copy of it yet. The description seems to match pretty well. *********************************************** Paul Kemner pkemner@bright.net Tortie 1-3 are at the MaxiMall, #4 is under the cold & calculating stares of the secret fanfic editors of Katdom, and 5+ are in progress! The Few, The Proud, The Smug-even, The SwatKat Fanfic Authors! *********************************************** From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 20:24:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA07262 for kats-ll; Sat, 11 May 1996 19:46:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server1.mich.com (root@server1.mich.com [198.108.16.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA07075 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 19:45:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from purrcys-pc by server1.mich.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uIOPQ-0002e7C; Sat, 11 May 96 19:49 EDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960511234856.006705f4@mail.mich.com> X-Sender: mweb@mail.mich.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 19:48:56 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Matt Weber Subject: Re: Video Nitpicks! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 12:22 PM 5/11/96 +0000, you wrote: >As a deprived (of Kats) Kanadian, I'd like to ask if anyone out there >knows if SunCoast (as mentioned in your article) has any sort of >Snail Mail catalog so's one could order from them? I'll send this to everyone since some others may be interested.. I couldn't find an address for Suncoast directly, however, I belong to the Producer's Club (discounts). You may want to try their address & phone: The Producer's Club P.O. Box 264 Wayzata, MN 55391 (612) 933-8928 -Matt From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 20:45:52 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA09306 for kats-ll; Sat, 11 May 1996 20:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gate.garden.net (gate.garden.net [206.26.128.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id UAA09301 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 20:31:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (pb-ppp26.garden.net [206.28.208.126]) by gate.garden.net (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11505) with SMTP id AAA100 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 20:32:05 -0400 X-Sender: djclawson@garden.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Subject: Re: your mail Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 20:32:05 -0400 Message-ID: <19960512003204334.AAA100@pb-ppp26.garden.net> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >I am currenlty working on the first issue, and I ship the disks to Walter >and he prints them out and mails them. If I had a color printer this >could be much easier. Walter would probably love a donation to pay for >the color printouts and a new color cartridge when it wears out. :) His >color printer's going to get a workout from my FCNL (Fan Club NewsLetter) >pages! I'm using gradient fills and much more. hehehe. :) It's looking >awesome! > >A.J. Freda My Prodigy SWAT Kats Club originally did have a NL. It was joint with the Gargoyles Prodigy Club, run by Kyle Cummings. We were both co-editors. Everything went fine for a while--I hung back the first one to see how it worked, only making copies and distributing--no major editing aside from a quick opening letter. It was cool--we had Kyle's interview with Chris Tremblay concerning the toys, an interview with the guy who does Hudson's voice, a few sketches by free-lance animator Bill Van Ordan from my club, and part one of a round robin SK fanfic that was done by club members. It involved Jake getting kidnapped by a bunch of supercompter thieves because he knew the access codes (Maybe this summer I'll type it up for you guys). Anyway, I turned around one day on the BBs to find that Kyle had went ahead to make it the "offical Gargoyles magazine" now FEATURING SWAT Kats. So I practicaly ranted, "What happened to the NL?" I didn't get too much of a response. Don't get the wrong idea about Kyle--he's a nice guy, but he kind of swept the carpet out from under me. So I assigned someone to be editor (Paul Jutras or Ryan Kelly, can't remember) and heard nothing on at that point. Eventually I questioned Kyle on it and a few weeks later I got "The Stone" in the mail (that's what it was called). It had next to nothing on SWAT Kats. Kyle took the job all too himself, but it quickly became too much to manage. I don't even know how many issues there were--tops, 4 or 5. Or maybe it's still coming out. I don't know. Probably not, thought. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 11 23:16:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA15653 for kats-ll; Sat, 11 May 1996 22:09:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from underdog.maxie.com (underdog.maxie.com [199.250.231.28]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id WAA15648 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 22:09:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bossrkf6.bossnt.com (bossrkf6.bossnt.com [198.150.207.46]) by underdog.maxie.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA16629 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 22:12:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 22:12:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605120212.WAA16629@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: peej@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Peejster Subject: Swat Kats Fan Club Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net How much is it to join the Swat Kats Fan Club? Peejster From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 12 02:04:59 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id AAA02044 for kats-ll; Sun, 12 May 1996 00:16:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA02033 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 00:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl2.redding.snowcrest.net (sl2.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.66]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA00694 for ; Sat, 11 May 1996 21:16:14 -0700 Date: Sat, 11 May 1996 21:16:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199605120416.VAA00694@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Casshan Subject: Re: Can you memorize an ep? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Can anyone here memorize almost a whole ep? Here goes my try. "Cry Turmoil" > >T-Bone: "Good thing we happened to be in the neighborhood, buddy." > You messed right here: You forgot about the captian saying that the plane will be landing soon! Oh well, anyone can forget a simple line! >Well, I have to go. I'll finish it later and type up a whole text file. >THis is why I only admire the art and sound anymore like i said earlier. > Now he tells me! I've memorized basically what happens in each ep except for that last one, I've basically memorized every screen frame from every ep excepting that $%#!ly hard to find last ep, and can tell what ep a screen shot came from, and from which studio it was taken from. Not to mention that I can catch people when they mess with trying to memorize scripts! Unfourtionatly, I've grown to admire the eps to an unhelthy level, which is why, because of the aforementioned statement, I call myself an extremist. No I am not bragging, I just have no life outside SWAT Kats! _______________________________________________________________ (Retarded)..... To heck with this! I don't want this crud anymore! ----------------------Ryan "Casshan" Kelley--------------------------------------- SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Casshan!.... I grow weary of that name." Android "Black King" BK1 _______________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 12 02:38:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id BAA06234 for kats-ll; Sun, 12 May 1996 01:34:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host (www.warwick.net [204.255.24.254]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA06229 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 01:34:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1-02.warwick.net by host; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0310PM) id AA25298; Sun, 12 May 1996 01:35:49 -0400 X-Sender: u1003240@host.warwick.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Light 1.5.4Fat (PowerPC) Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 01:36:45 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: jaguar@warwick.net (Michael J. Rider) Subject: Greeblings Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sat, 11 May 1996 18:59:40 -0400 (EDT) Paul Kemner wrote: >On the origin/what the heck are creeplings- I wonder if the creeplings are >mutated or possibly just *visible* Greeblings? In this world, Greeblings >absolutely infest human dwellings, but humans with their poor eyesight can't >see them. My feline sources tell me that Greeblings are responsible for all >sorts of rotten stuff, and that one of the major duties of a guardian cat is >to eliminate them. When a cat jumps on newspaper, rips up the rug, gets on >the kitchen counter, etc. they're really catching and killing Greeblings. >When a cat just stares at a wall for no apparent reason, they're keeping an >eye on a Greebling that's out of reach. There's a scientific paper on them >that shows up on rec.pets.cats occasionally, but I haven't managed to snag a >copy of it yet. The description seems to match pretty well. They do look quite similar, but they are much larger than typical greeblings. If they are artificially mutated by Dark Kat this would explain the difference in size. The darn things always get online with my computer at night and post to alt.devilbunnies. Now the little fluffy terrors think I'm an axe wielding maniac. -- ____________________________ |\ /| / Michael J. Rider / :o o: / jaguar@warwick.net /________oOOo_==( ^ )==_oOOo__________ / ULC Minister/Furry Feline / ' / / Jason_Jaguar on FurryMUCK / Hey, what's going on up here? / ---------------------------- / / Brain> Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? / / Pinky> Wuh, I think so, Brain, but isn't Regis Philbin / / already married? / ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 12 03:45:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id DAA13095 for kats-ll; Sun, 12 May 1996 03:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.5]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id DAA13090 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 03:02:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from (wkoziol@spr-ma3-20.ix.netcom.com [205.184.172.116]) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA20062 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 00:05:29 -0700 Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 00:05:29 -0700 Message-Id: <199605120705.AAA20062@dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com> From: wkoziol@ix.netcom.com (Walter Koziol, Jr. ) Subject: Re: Swat Kats Fan Club To: kats@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net You wrote: > >How much is it to join the Swat Kats Fan Club? > > Peejster > > Free but there may be some stuff thats going to cost. Like "The Official Swat Kats Newsletter" cause printing and mailing newsletters and the envelopes to mail them in costs money. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 12 08:29:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id IAA28417 for kats-ll; Sun, 12 May 1996 08:07:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id IAA28412 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 08:07:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tole-cs-2.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-2.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.102]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id IAA00544 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 08:07:26 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 08:07:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605121207.IAA00544@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Re: Greeblings Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 01:36 AM 5/12/96 -0400, Michael J. Rider wrote: >They do look quite similar, but they are much larger than typical >greeblings. If they are artificially mutated by Dark Kat this would >explain the difference in size. That's assuming that Kats are human-sized. Is there any way to tell? Two of my cats sleep in the same room as the computer, so they can usually keep greeblings away from the keys. They don't seem to have the same luck with glitches, though. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 12 18:33:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA09970 for kats-ll; Sun, 12 May 1996 17:27:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA09962 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 17:27:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA13612; Sun, 12 May 1996 13:54:05 -0400 Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 13:54:05 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Swat Kats Fan Club In-Reply-To: <199605120212.WAA16629@underdog.maxie.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sat, 11 May 1996, Peejster wrote: > How much is it to join the Swat Kats Fan Club? > > Peejster Free, though Walter Koziol would probably like donations to help buy new color ribbon cartridges whenever they run out. Just send him your address at: wkoziol@ix.netcom.com A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 12 18:43:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA10319 for kats-ll; Sun, 12 May 1996 17:29:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id RAA10308 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 17:29:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d142.infoserve.net [199.175.157.142]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA05559 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 12:37:01 -0700 Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 12:37:01 -0700 Message-Id: <199605121937.MAA05559@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Newsletters and Prodigy... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > My Prodigy SWAT Kats Club originally did have a NL. It was joint with the >Gargoyles Prodigy Club, run by Kyle Cummings. We were both co-editors. >Everything went fine for a while--I hung back the first one to see how it >worked, only making copies and distributing--no major editing aside from a >quick opening letter. It was cool--we had Kyle's interview with Chris >Tremblay concerning the toys, Yeah, Christian told me that Kyle "sends me stuff, and I send him stuff" when I first heard of the P*Katsclub via Kyle's post to alt.tv.swatkats. I kinda got the idea that Gargs was displacing the kitties in the dude's efforts, so I didn't try to hook up with the P* club at all. > So I assigned someone to be editor (Paul Jutras or Ryan Kelly, can't >remember) Oh yeah, our very own Ryan Kelley - him of many aliases? People get around, huh? _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 12 21:39:48 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA11482 for kats-ll; Sun, 12 May 1996 17:36:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id RAA11467 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 17:36:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from net-6-183.austin.eden.com (net-6-183.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.183]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id MAA12580 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 12:46:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 12:46:51 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199605121746.MAA12580@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: New Fan Fiction X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net A.J. (very thoughtfully, I might add) wrote: >Max wrote: > >> "Blood Moon Rising" by Kay Chang (kaychang@eden.com) (2 of 2 parts) > > Whenever you see "Kay Chang", it's "Terra Chang". She uses her >mom's account. Yeah, that's right. Thanx, A.J. I hate it when people get me mixed up wit' m' mom, know what 'm sayin'? Oh yeah, and Max? "Blood Moon Rising" is not two parts, I accidently mislabelled the subject lines. What I sent you is only part one of a set. I'm working on part two right now! Hehe, sorry for that, everybody . . . Terra Chang "I didn't make the world, I just try to live in it." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "We PROTEST you calling us little kids. We prefer to be called 'vertically impaired pre-adults.'" --Yakko Warner From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon May 13 03:32:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id AAA02923 for kats-ll; Mon, 13 May 1996 00:44:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sioux.sodak.net (root@sioux.sodak.net [205.164.184.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA02917 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 00:44:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sioux.sodak.net ([205.164.184.220]) by sioux.sodak.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA24484 for ; Sun, 12 May 1996 23:51:01 -0500 Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 23:51:01 -0500 Message-Id: <199605130451.XAA24484@sioux.sodak.net> X-Sender: fuller@sioux X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: fuller@sioux.sodak.net (Frank Fuller) Subject: Fwd: Swat Kats: SKIQ Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I got this little ditty in the mail after an email I sent in... >From: ToonNet@aol.com >Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 21:40:17 -0400 >To: fuller@sioux.sodak.net >Subject: Fwd: Swat Kats: SKIQ > >Hello Frank! > > Alas, the rumor you heard was just that--a rumor! > > We still don't have "SKIQ". > > But if we ever get it, you can be sure we'll show it! We know there are >tons of SWAT Kats fans out there--we hear from them all the time! > > Your website sounds cool! We'll try to check it out if we can ever get out >from under this cyber-mountain of e-mail! > >Thanks for writing and stay tooned! >Cartoon Network > >--------------------- >Forwarded message: >From: fuller@sioux.sodak.net (Frank Fuller) >To: toonnet@aol.com >Date: 96-04-18 02:13:06 EDT > > Is the rumor I heard of you having found the SK episode 'SKIQ' >really true? I hope so... I'd love to see it! And I know I'm not the only >one who'd love to... There are lots of Kats fans out there, you know... :> > > >Frank Fuller >fuller@sioux.sodak.net >Proud to be a Swat Kats fan at nearly 22 >Check out the Kats WWW page!!! http://rat.org/kats/ for info! > > > > From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon May 13 03:45:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id CAA11159 for kats-ll; Mon, 13 May 1996 02:04:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host (host.warwick.net [204.255.24.254]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id CAA11138 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 02:04:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m2-10.warwick.net by host; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0310PM) id AA06027; Mon, 13 May 1996 02:05:56 -0400 X-Sender: u1003240@host.warwick.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Light 1.5.4Fat (PowerPC) Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 02:06:52 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: jaguar@warwick.net (Michael J. Rider) Subject: Re: Greeblings Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sun, 12 May 1996 08:07:26 -0400 (EDT) Paul Kemner wrote: >That's assuming that Kats are human-sized. Is there any way to tell? Two of >my cats sleep in the same room as the computer, so they can usually keep >greeblings away from the keys. They don't seem to have the same luck with >glitches, though. That's true. The Kats could be cat size and the Turbokat no bigger than a large RC plane and we'd never know the difference. I always assume without information to the contrary that furry or cartoon characters are at or near human size. Some species are definitely underfoot (like in Capitol Critters and Rescue Rangers). -- ____________________________ |\ /| / Michael J. Rider / :o o: / jaguar@warwick.net /________oOOo_==( ^ )==_oOOo__________ / ULC Minister/Furry Feline / ' / / Jason_Jaguar on FurryMUCK / Hey, what's going on up here? / ---------------------------- / / Brain> Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? / / Pinky> Wuh, I think so, Brain, but isn't Regis Philbin / / already married? / ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon May 13 20:01:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id JAA15958 for kats-ll; Mon, 13 May 1996 09:37:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA15948 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 09:37:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d141.infoserve.net [199.175.157.141]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA10977 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 06:42:41 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 06:42:41 -0700 Message-Id: <199605131342.GAA10977@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats: SKIQ Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>From: ToonNet@aol.com >>Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 21:40:17 -0400 >>To: fuller@sioux.sodak.net >>Subject: Fwd: Swat Kats: SKIQ >> >>Hello Frank! >> >> Alas, the rumor you heard was just that--a rumor! >> >> We still don't have "SKIQ". >> >> But if we ever get it, you can be sure we'll show it! We know there are >>tons of SWAT Kats fans out there--we hear from them all the time! *THUD* Now that I've picked myself up off the floor after 20 minutes of hysterical laughter, I'll try and get something posted to the list from TCN that's a bit more.....real. In case nobody's worked it out on their own, the horizontal lines of communication amongst the various arms of Tedco are about as efficient as Semaphore in a snowstorm, and often the slowest path of information travel can be found between the different levels of TCN. Sigh. FYI, anything I post saying "Cartoon Network Says" is generally from a level above the "toonnet" address - but I suppose someone forgot to tell them. Later. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon May 13 20:32:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id JAA18231 for kats-ll; Mon, 13 May 1996 09:50:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA18216 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 09:50:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d141.infoserve.net [199.175.157.141]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA11325 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 06:55:55 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 06:55:55 -0700 Message-Id: <199605131355.GAA11325@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Greeblings Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >On Sun, 12 May 1996 08:07:26 -0400 (EDT) Paul Kemner wrote: > >>That's assuming that Kats are human-sized. Is there any way to tell? Two of >>my cats sleep in the same room as the computer, so they can usually keep >>greeblings away from the keys. They don't seem to have the same luck with >>glitches, though. > >That's true. The Kats could be cat size and the Turbokat no bigger than a >large RC plane and we'd never know the difference. I always assume without >information to the contrary that furry or cartoon characters are at or near >human size. Some species are definitely underfoot (like in Capitol >Critters and Rescue Rangers). > Speaking of "Capitol Critters"; Kats designer/writer Lance Falk and Kats producer Davis Doi worked together on that series, and one of the reasons Lance got to art-direct his own eps of Kats was due to the talent demonstrated on that earlier project. (And quite likely why he was on Davis' short-list for JQ). WRT "human-sized": generally, the writers of most 'toons will go out of their way to put across the concept of "smaller than humans", as the character size often works out to be a vital part of the storyline later on. Since the katsworld has nothing for comparison, it'd be fairly hard to apply this here, but since there wasn't any compelling reason to make them the size of a housecat (and the "Mutilor" storyline originally had kat-sized humans in place of the Kat-Aquians), I think it's safe to assume the guys are meant to be our size. Meow. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon May 13 22:35:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id MAA08855 for kats-ll; Mon, 13 May 1996 12:26:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id MAA08844 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 12:26:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.64] (dyn1064a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.64]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id XAA24578 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 23:26:32 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 23:25:11 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Video Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sat, 11 May 1996, Erin O'Connell wrote: >As a deprived (of Kats) Kanadian, I'd like to ask if anyone out there >knows if SunCoast (as mentioned in your article) has any sort of >Snail Mail catalog so's one could order from them? Hey, if they got a snail-mail (or e-mail, or even better yet -- an online ordering system) catalog of all the kats merchandise and they ship oversea, I be a happy kat indeed. >Thx!!! >Erin ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Coming my queen!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon May 13 22:35:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA04765 for kats-ll; Mon, 13 May 1996 15:52:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from PICA.ARMY.MIL ([129.139.22.25]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA04675 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 15:52:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 13 May 96 15:49:19 EDT From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Video Nitpicks! Message-ID: <9605131549.aa07316@Fsac5.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > The write ups of the series and the individual epsiodes on the back of the >videos, while better than nothing, are not anywhere as near good as they could >be. I would have preferred a less juvenille, more accurate description >(*Rocket*-blasting action?) of the episodes cointained within. For some >reason I keep hearing Krusty the Clown read these things in my head and scream >"Hey Kids!" with the occasional laughter. Well, I hate to remind you, but we're not the primary audience for these videos (we being intelligent, thoughful fans). To Turner's distribution operation these are just more fodder for the seemingly insatiable kidvid market. But don't feel bad. Buena Vista Home Video has been doing just as loust a job on the packaging of Gargoyles and other series under their purview. Makes one wonder if the designers actually see the product they're designing the package for ("45 whole minutes?? But that means I only have an hour and 15 minutes left for lunch!!!" :) > Thankfully the videos are recorded in the highest quality possible. The >speed is of course SP, and the image is about good as video tape will allow, >as is the sound quality, crisp stereo which doesn't contain the slightest hint >of crackle even at high volume. It's good to know that Turner is at least >making certain his video releases are technically good. I know it's not everybody's cup of tea, but you should see the "Swan Princess" LD before you say that. Horrible, absolutely horrible. It's not as good a film as it could have been, but it doesn't deserve such an execrable LD release. At least MCA got "Balto" right on LD. Curse you, TedCo! Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon May 13 22:47:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id OAA28150 for kats-ll; Mon, 13 May 1996 14:57:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id OAA28142 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 14:57:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with SMTP id OAA25811 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 14:56:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA28312; Mon, 13 May 1996 15:03:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 15:03:41 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats: SKIQ In-Reply-To: <199605130451.XAA24484@sioux.sodak.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sun, 12 May 1996, Frank Fuller wrote: > I got this little ditty in the mail after an email I sent in... > > >From: ToonNet@aol.com > >Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 21:40:17 -0400 > >To: fuller@sioux.sodak.net > >Subject: Fwd: Swat Kats: SKIQ > > > >Hello Frank! > > > > Alas, the rumor you heard was just that--a rumor! > > > > We still don't have "SKIQ". Grrr. Turner's Cruddy Network has been getting on my nerves lately... looks like I'll have to go even further in the FCNL in the "What Ted's Been Screwing Up lately" section. ATTENTION!!!: I need your Ted Turner Jokes and letters to SWAT Kat characters for the Newsletter! (FCNL). And yes, there will be replys in the fcnl, and I have T-Bone and Razor's sigs to forge onto the computer, too! And before anyone asks, yes, they came on a note from the Tremblays. Can someone come up with a funny answer to this joke for the newletter?: How many Teds does it take to change a lightbulb? So far I have recieved NOTHING. No letters, no jokes, no opinions, etc. PLEASE SEND ME YOURE STUFF FOR THE FCNL!!!!! AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! Sorry. I didn't have a good day at school. :) A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 14 02:17:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA26790 for kats-ll; Mon, 13 May 1996 18:58:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id SAA26779 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 18:58:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Fox.nstn.ca (fox.nstn.ca [137.186.128.12]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id RAA18867 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 17:16:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ts7-08.hfx.iSTAR.ca (ts7-08.hfx.iSTAR.ca [137.186.7.148]) by Fox.nstn.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA08204 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 18:16:21 -0300 (ADT) Message-Id: <199605132116.SAA08204@Fox.nstn.ca> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Erin O'Connell" To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 18:10:46 +0000 Subject: Razor's Glovatrix Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net OK, bare with me - I've only been on this list for a month or so, and, probably, this has been discussed in the past, but it was something I noticed over the weekend and I would just like someone to confirm what I think I saw. During the final fight scene of "Katastrophe" does Razor's Glavatrix seem to be having a hard time deciding which hand it should be on? Before they get trapped under Dark Kat's dome, it's on his right hand, after that it's on his left. Is he ambidextrous, or was this, as I suspect, just an animating error? Erin From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 14 06:23:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA01227 for kats-ll; Mon, 13 May 1996 19:45:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA01141 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 19:45:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA11996; Mon, 13 May 1996 19:52:26 -0400 Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 19:52:25 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: MIDI Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Since I do not have access to newsgroups, could someone post a request for a SWAT Kats MIDI file on alt.tv.swatkats and all the MIDI newsgroups? Thanx a bunch, or, just mail me the sheet music. E-Mail me if any of you can get your hands on it. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 14 06:23:25 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA24460 for kats-ll; Mon, 13 May 1996 23:39:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA24444 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 23:38:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d167.infoserve.net [199.175.157.167]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA19662 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 20:44:18 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 20:44:18 -0700 Message-Id: <199605140344.UAA19662@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Newsletter and How Many Teds.... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >How many Teds does it take to change a lightbulb? One. Ted holds it towards the ceiling, and his execs screw everything up! (Don't worry - I *like* my "day job") I also like: "Lost: 9 million dollars. Reward. Call (213) 969-1201. Ask for "Fred". (in reference to the Great Jonny Debacle)| ___________________________________________________________ Warning: The Surgeon General has Determined that Cynicism Increases with Amount typed. Froth in moderation. ___________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 14 06:24:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA15220 for kats-ll; Mon, 13 May 1996 21:49:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA15153 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 21:49:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id VAA21793 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 21:47:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.168] (dyn1168a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.168]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id IAA02561 for ; Tue, 14 May 1996 08:46:36 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 08:45:19 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Greeblings Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sun, 12 May 1996, Paul Kemner wrote: >At 01:36 AM 5/12/96 -0400, Michael J. Rider wrote: >>They do look quite similar, but they are much larger than typical >>greeblings. If they are artificially mutated by Dark Kat this would >>explain the difference in size. On Sun, 12 May 1996, Paul Kemner wrote: >That's assuming that Kats are human-sized. Is there any way to tell? Well, the kats was supposed to be as close to human as possible, so I say that they are about our-size. But I like to see them a little bit smaller than us. BTW, the Aquians in "When Strikes Mutilor" supposed to be humans, so I think that the kats is probably meant to be human-sized. >Two of >my cats sleep in the same room as the computer, so they can usually keep >greeblings away from the keys. They don't seem to have the same luck with >glitches, though. Hmmm, a feline that can debug your computer ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Coming my queen!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 14 06:28:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA25483 for kats-ll; Mon, 13 May 1996 23:47:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA25410 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 23:47:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id WAA27222 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 22:40:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tole-cs-3.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-3.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.103]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id WAA26533 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 22:39:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 22:39:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605140239.WAA26533@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Re: Fwd: Swat Kats: SKIQ Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 06:42 AM 5/13/96 -0700, you wrote: >In case nobody's worked it out on their own, the horizontal lines of >communication amongst the various arms of Tedco are about as efficient as >a Semaphore in a snowstorm, and often the slowest path of information travel can >be found between the different levels of TCN. The amazing thing, for those of you that haven't worked in the corp-world yet, is that the various levels of Tedco are probably run as well or better than the average med-to-large corporation! Don't believe me? Just wait till you've got jobs (heh, heh, heh!), then tell me about it. ^~^ Don't get me wrong here. I like to complain as much as the next kat. Just don't expect too much of them- planaria are maybe a bit higher on the evolutionary scale. Besides, now that G.O. (among others) have... well, lets say we would have treated them better.... Who would do the voice of U. Feral in any revival, for instance? The guy that does SG Coast to Coast & Cartoon Planet? The guy that did Papa Smurf? What are our choices here, of those that might not come back? Who would YOU pick? ************* Paul Kemner pkemner@bright.net ************* From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue May 14 06:37:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id AAA08613 for kats-ll; Tue, 14 May 1996 00:04:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA08588 for ; Tue, 14 May 1996 00:04:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d167.infoserve.net [199.175.157.167]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA19659 for ; Mon, 13 May 1996 20:44:11 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 20:44:11 -0700 Message-Id: <199605140344.UAA19659@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Fwd: Broadcast copies of "SwatKats" degrading?? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Here's something I got from Toonnet today in answer to A.J's earlier query concerning the possiblity that the tapes are degrading. I don't know what to make of the reply, but I guess it's from someone that's not over-fond of the kitties - but who's sense of humour I *really* like. I guess my outgoing message to Toonnet must've read "stuffy" (yeah...I do that), hence this kinda reply. S'cool. >From: ToonNet@aol.com >Date: Mon, 13 May 1996 22:34:27 -0400 >To: chance@unix.infoserve.net >Subject: Fwd: Broadcast copies of "SwatKats" degrading?? > >Hi! > > "Are broadcast copies of "SWATKats degrading?" > >Only if you worked on the show! > > Aw, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! > > ...Wait a second....that made no sense whatsoever... > > Anyway, no need to worry about the masters! We keep them locked up in >climate controlled vault(95% humidity--the control is stuck) along with Mr. >Turner's high power magnet collection and also the Cartoon Network >sandblasting machine--which sort of malfunctioned and now we can't turn it >off! > > But we're sure the originals are in A-OK shape! > > > Seriously, don't worry! For all the money we poured into that show you can >bet we're not going to let anything happen to the real masters! > >And now--a Cartoon Network Fun Fact! Since we own over 8500 cartoons(and >we're making even more new ones all the time!), there's always something cool >to watch on Cartoon Network. You could watch four cartoons from our library >each day and it would still take about 6 years to watch all of them! But >don't worry--we plan to be around a lot longer than that--so it's all right >if you only watch two or three of our cartoons each day! > Thanks for writing to us, and stay tooned! >Cartoon Network > >--------------------- >Forwarded message: >From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) >To: toonnet@aol.com >Date: 96-04-20 12:40:58 EDT > >Hi guys. > >This post comes from the "SwatKats Mailing List", and as I don't get TCN and >can't verify for myself, *are* the masters degrading to the level described >below, >or is he perhaps just having a problem with his local carrier? _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 15 04:50:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id EAA15336 for kats-ll; Wed, 15 May 1996 04:11:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id EAA15321 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 04:11:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.69] (dyn1069a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.69]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id PAA12607 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 15:10:46 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 15:09:22 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Can you memorize an ep? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Well, I have to go. I'll finish it later and type up a whole text file. >>THis is why I only admire the art and sound anymore like i said earlier. > >Now he tells me! I've memorized basically what happens in each ep except for >that last one, I've basically memorized every screen frame from every ep >excepting that $%#!ly hard to find last ep, and can tell what ep a screen >shot came from, and from which studio it was taken from. Hmmm.... How about if we ask for the original script of an ep? That will be alot easier than remembering each lines. >Ryan "Casshan" Kelley ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Coming my queen!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 15 04:51:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id EAA15286 for kats-ll; Wed, 15 May 1996 04:10:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id EAA15281 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 04:10:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.69] (dyn1069a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.69]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id PAA12540 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 15:10:13 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 15:09:01 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Okay, I got it now. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Okay, a couple of days ago and not to mention a couple of previous months= ago -- I said something that is really wasting everybody's bandwidth, that= is because I still don't understand. Now, I know what SWAT Kats is! Okay, SWAT Kats is: An anime-influenced animations that was drawn by= Japanese artist (Except for a couple of first season episodes, although= that originaly it was meant to have all of its episodes drawn by Mook),= designed and voiced by Americans, and it was based on an original concept= made by Canadians. Well, that is all I want to say for now. Got any comments? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Coming my queen!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 15 04:51:49 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id EAA15292 for kats-ll; Wed, 15 May 1996 04:11:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id EAA15279 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 04:10:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.69] (dyn1069a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.69]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id PAA12597 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 15:10:42 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 15:09:18 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Early Kats renditions. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >But a pinkish sky isn't that strange, I think we've seen it on the show >once before. In which episode? >>Can you scan it? I think that the rest of us on the list want to see that >>image, no matter how small it is. > >Well, I don't really know how to covert images to text for E-mailing, Have you try using UUlite? But send it to rat.org of course, the list is no place to send a binary file. >and >since I'll be off-line in mere moments and that particular lab is closed...no, >sorry, I can't. Aww crud. >>Lets just say that they (SWAT Kats) are in 'suspended animation' and not >>cancelled. Get it? 'suspended animation' :) Ahh... Nevermind. > >Hey, I get it. If and when they do revive it, they'll probably just say >"Cancelled? Don't be ridiculous, it was just... an extended hiatus, yeah >that's the ticket..." The question is, how long? >>Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id > >Kevin L. Knoles ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Coming my queen!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 15 04:54:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id EAA15309 for kats-ll; Wed, 15 May 1996 04:11:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id EAA15303 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 04:11:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.69] (dyn1069a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.69]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id PAA12614 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 15:10:49 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 15:09:26 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Greeblings Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 01:36 AM 5/12/96 -0400, Michael J. Rider wrote: >>They do look quite similar, but they are much larger than typical >>greeblings. If they are artificially mutated by Dark Kat this would >>explain the difference in size. On Sun, 12 May 1996, Paul Kemner wrote: >That's assuming that Kats are human-sized. Is there any way to tell? Well, the kats was supposed to be as close to human as possible, so I say= that they are about our-size. But I like to see them a little bit smaller= than us. Not as small as an earthling cat, but small enough to allow me to= talk to Feral without me standing on a chair. BTW, the Aquians in "When Strikes Mutilor" supposed to be humans, so I think= that the kats is probably meant to be human-sized. >Two of >my cats sleep in the same room as the computer, so they can usually keep >greeblings away from the keys. They don't seem to have the same luck with >glitches, though. Hmmm, a feline that can debug your computer. SWAT Kats debugging a computer?= :) ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Coming my queen!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 15 04:57:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id EAA15331 for kats-ll; Wed, 15 May 1996 04:11:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id EAA15287 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 04:10:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.69] (dyn1069a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.69]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id PAA12587 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 15:10:30 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 15:09:08 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Unmasked 2 and ... romance? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Wed, 8 May 1996 08:26:27 -0700 Andy Hill wrote: >...and it's a *fine* idea! I generally find things written from= first-person perspective to >be a bit, er...distracting, but in this case it could work out well. How= about a story written >in the form of journal entries or something - perhaps from the POV of a= "Private Detective" >or Enforcer hired by a suspicious member of the Government to keep an eye= on Jake and >Chance (i.e. to see if they could actually be the SwatKats)? Cool. Well chance, this could be an idea for the sequel of SwatKats Unmasked.= Steel(e) still upset from 'SwatKats Unmasked' decided to make full= investigation on the guys. Collecting every piece of evidence that he could= find that lead to the guys being the SwatKats, searching the junkyard for= evidence, spying on the guys, make a journal of every SwatKats activity, et= c. Andy also wrote about romance: >You can't really do this for a couple of reasons, and these are most= effectively=20 >demonstrated by checking out the portrayal of "romance" on today's TV and a= ttempting >to choose one that parallels your definition of it. Er, romance? I thought that I was talking about a love story, how do romance= got into this thread anyway? >I've not been very successful. Your idea >of "romantic" will have the effect of confining your story to an audience= of people that >share your definition, where such unnecessary restriction would not apply= if you merely >leave romantic entanglements at the "flirting" or "anything's possible" sta= ge. Yeah, but if you stay in that stage for a very long time, the audience may= get a little ... upset. >Every time that >"romance" has been written into a series storyline where it had previously= been avoided >like the plague has failed miserably; case in point: "Moonlighting" and the= old series "V". Why written romance into the storyline? Why not make romance a part of the= storyline itself? >The "X-Files" has avoided developing stories along these lines despite= pressure from >writers and a segment of the audience to do so. Chris Carter thinks it's a= bad idea, and >I think it has the effect of shifting the "focus" of a particular show - be= it Katsfic or 'Files -=20 >from those elements that made it successful in the first place. I don't get it, fanfic and the show is the same? >Do I want to see Callie and Jake on a romantic level deeper than say,= oh...Jenna and Balto? Er, how do Jake got into the act? And why is that it have to be Jake? >Not a chance. Don't know about a Chance, but it surely a Jake. On Wed, 8 May 1996 DJ Clawson wrote: >I am not lazy or anything, Well, I am a very lazy person indeed. >As for the Jake and Chance as kids >story I wrote for English class, I rewrote it this weekend, and sadly, I >cannot send it to the list. First of all, it has next to nothing to do with >the show aside from the fact it IS backstory (no mention of enforcers or >anything). Well, send it, I don't care if it's a back story. It got Jake and Chance, is= n't? BTW DJ, you will divided it in section, wouldn't you? Since that I have a= hard time reading "Children of the Stone". >Secondly, it's an extremely Jewish story (I got inspired by >Philip Roth's works) and I'm actually thinking of submitting it to a >magazine or something (it's about 10 pages). Okay, so maybe it has some things, lets just call those things --= cross-overs stuff. >If I do, Chance will not be given a last name Hmmm, how about consulting us on giving him an alternative last name, after= all, you did get Charon's name from this list. ;) >and Jake Clawson should become Jake Dawson, Hmmm... How about "Dawnson"? >so it'll >literally move away from the classification of "fanfiction." You, write a story, send it to the story site. Me, write a story, throw it= into the trash. DJ wrote about Jake anc Callie: > Why am I the only one who doesn't seem to agree with the Jake/Cally pair >up?!? Well, believe me DJ, you're not the only one. I agree that both Callie and= Jake are very likeable and loveable characters, but I won't dare to match= the two. > What it looks like from what I've seen fans say, there seems to be some >sort of misconception that the females have to be divided evenly with the >males. Well, fans do that all the time, always trying to pairing the character that= they seen in the TV. Of course it would be interesting if they start matching females with= females. :) Or males with males. >If there was the question, "Well, who'll go with Cally?" many fans >who've felt the need to find one of the guys just because the show stressed >their infatuation with her have turned to Jake. What happen if she decided to choose another kat? >Personally, I can't see her with EITHER of them, and screw their lousy >crushes. Er, who has the crushes? But PERSONALLY, I can't see her with a boyfriend. >Jake is a scientist and and engineer, a pilot at heart. Well, Jake is a very bright kat who has a lot of time in his hands. >Cally is a politician. Don't know, she seem to have all the characterisitc of a lawyer to me. Of= course lawyer and politician has the same characteristic. >They (Callie and Jake)have next to NOTHING in common. Except that a LOT people like them and fans always try to match the two.= Read my previous message. >As for Chance, I can't see him settling down with anyone >without his wild charisma. That's why I paired him with Felina in my >stories--they're both gargoyles anyway, what's the difference? Well, one thing, Clawson and Feral don't mix, period! >As for Jake, well . . . we all know that answer, if you read my fanfic. You like Jake, you like Sinian. A LOT people like Jake, a LOT people like= Callie. See the similarities? People always match the character that they l= ike. >Romance can be worked in slowly and carefully, but some people should >watch what they put in. What is the differences between love and romance? > Dr. Jake Hmmm, Dr. Jake (Dr. Jake as in DJ Clawson, that's mean you DJ! :) and= Callie. Now that's an interesting idea, not a good one, but interesting= nonetheless. :) ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Coming my queen!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 15 09:43:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id HAA02716 for kats-ll; Wed, 15 May 1996 07:21:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id HAA02711 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 07:21:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tole-cs-1.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-1.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.101]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id HAA01422 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 07:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 07:21:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605151121.HAA01422@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Re: Greeblings Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >On Sun, 12 May 1996, Paul Kemner wrote: >>That's assuming that Kats are human-sized. Is there any way to tell? Another way that came to mind. In one of the Dr. V. eps, his 'pet' eats a cow and a farmer on it's way to MKCity. The cow is about the same relative size as some of our smaller breeds. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 15 14:09:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA25012 for kats-ll; Wed, 15 May 1996 10:35:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA25000 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 10:35:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d141.infoserve.net [199.175.157.141]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA06885 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 07:41:30 -0700 Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 07:41:30 -0700 Message-Id: <199605151441.HAA06885@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Unmasked 2 and ... romance? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Well chance, this could be an idea for the sequel of SwatKats Unmasked. Steel(e) still upset from 'SwatKats Unmasked' decided to make full investigation on the guys. Collecting every piece of evidence that he could find that lead to the guys being the SwatKats, searching the junkyard for evidence, spying on the guys, make a journal of every SwatKats activity, etc. Hmm. Another good idea. Now all I have to do is create a 48hr. day (that is, one that I don't have to work 40 hrs of). >>I've not been very successful. Your idea >>of "romantic" will have the effect of confining your story to an audience of people that >>share your definition, where such unnecessary restriction would not apply if you merely >>leave romantic entanglements at the "flirting" or "anything's possible" stage. > >Yeah, but if you stay in that stage for a very long time, the audience may get a little ... upset. That *never* happens. Not once. Ever. When you start a series, it's like taking a trip on a large highway. There's all kinds of off-ramps you can take, but every time you do that and wind up on a side-road, the road becomes narrower. Each time you make a choice at the storyline "forks in the road" and reduce the number of possibilities, the path becomes narrower and narrower the further you get from the "highway". Pairing your characters off as love interests is analogous to abandoning the "highway" altogether for the story equivalent of a deer-path. Megakat City needs nice, big multi-lane highways in the "official" continuity. Since fanfic is just someone's particular interpretation of the characters, you can go where you please. You just might lose your audience before Chapter Two. >I don't get it, fanfic and the show is the same? Nein. Not at all. However, the same reason people like the show is also what will prompt them to read your fanfic. Some might like to see possibilities explored in fanfic that are barely touched on in the show (the attraction of most fanfic), others may simply want to see "further adventures" written along exactly the same lines as the series. Tastes vary - fanfic accomodates. However, from what I've read, out of all the divergences that you can make from the storyline, heavily graphic romantic entanglements generally have the smallest appeal range. Your mileage may vary, though I'm personally in no great hurry to see Callie and Razor involved in some pseudo-gothic hyper-descriptive saccharine romance. "The scent of her drove him wild with desire. Every breath, every movement, was a study in beauty. His heart raced..." BLECH! I get my daily dose of that stuff listening to "Melrose Place" ads on the one-eyed babysitter. >>Romance can be worked in slowly and carefully, but some people should >>watch what they put in. > >What is the differences between love and romance? Hmmm. Love is more the attraction, and "romance" the mood surrounding it. I find even those that try to make sure it's "worked in slowly and carefully" tend to slide into the purplest of prose anyway. Still, katsfic is your province - you can make "romance" the capitol if you want. I'll just stay in the suburbs. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 15 23:05:13 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id QAA12393 for kats-ll; Wed, 15 May 1996 16:32:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id QAA12383 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 16:32:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tole-cs-1.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-1.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.101]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id QAA10565 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 16:32:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 16:32:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605152032.QAA10565@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Re: ... romance? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 07:41 AM 5/15/96 -0700, chance wrote: >"The scent of her drove him wild with desire. Every breath, every movement, > was a study in beauty. His heart raced..." "Oh!" Cried the katfans one by one, as they opened the fateful email. An odd sensation leapt into the very core of their beings from the glowing phosphor screens. Long-buried masochistic seeds took root and sprouted in their hearts, sending tendrils that choked their taste and judgement, as the kudzu vine covers all with it's alien morass. "Oh, Chance! We never knew that katfic could be so... so... satisfying- so meaninful. Give us more- we MUST have more! Pair Manx up with the old lady with the car that breaks down all the time! Pair Ulysses Feral with Abi! Callie with Steele, Razor with a Creepling! Ann with Dark Kat! Felina with Hard Drive! Yes, yes, YES!!!!" Springtime in MegaKat City, Indeed! Maybe we should write a round-robin Purple Prose Katfic, something katfans can turn to when there's no emetic in the house. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed May 15 23:19:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA02497 for kats-ll; Wed, 15 May 1996 19:17:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from host (host.warwick.net [204.255.24.254]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA02475 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 19:17:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m4-08.warwick.net by host; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0310PM) id AA08166; Wed, 15 May 1996 19:18:24 -0400 X-Sender: u1003240@host.warwick.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Light 1.5.4Fat (PowerPC) Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 19:19:23 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: jaguar@warwick.net (Michael J. Rider) Subject: Re: Early Kats renditions. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Wed, 15 May 1996 15:09:18 +0700 Edo Andromedo wrote: >>>Can you scan it? I think that the rest of us on the list want to see that >>>image, no matter how small it is. >> >>Well, I don't really know how to covert images to text for E-mailing, > >Have you try using UUlite? Any decent mail application should be able to encode and attach files. UUEncode is a slightly dated format for mail. MIME is much newer and better generally. >But send it to rat.org of course, the list is no place to send a binary file. If there is an uproar about sending fanfics to the list there is bound to be something even worse about that. Sending binaries to a mailing list is a _very_ bad idea. If you can use an ftp client to "put" things to rat.org that's much more appropriate. I think the guidelines for doing that are around somewhere. -- ____________________________ |\ /| / Michael J. Rider / :o o: / jaguar@warwick.net /________oOOo_==( ^ )==_oOOo__________ / ULC Minister/Furry Feline / ' / / Jason_Jaguar on FurryMUCK / Hey, what's going on up here? / ---------------------------- / / Brain> Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? / / Pinky> Wuh, I think so, Brain, but isn't Regis Philbin / / already married? / ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu May 16 02:49:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id BAA23955 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 May 1996 01:24:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id BAA23946 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 01:24:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gate.garden.net (gate.garden.net [206.26.128.1]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id TAA03281 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 19:32:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME (pb-ppp01.garden.net [206.28.208.101]) by gate.garden.net (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11505) with SMTP id AAA213 for ; Wed, 15 May 1996 19:32:34 -0400 X-Sender: djclawson@garden.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Subject: Re: Unmasked 2 and ... romance? Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 19:32:34 -0400 Message-ID: <19960515233233651.AAA213@pb-ppp01.garden.net> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net A> >Well chance, this could be an idea for the sequel of SwatKats Unmasked. Steel(e) still upset from 'SwatKats Unmasked' decided to make full investigation on the guys. Collecting every piece of evidence that he could find that lead to the guys being the SwatKats, searching the junkyard for evidence, spying on the guys, make a journal of every SwatKats activity, etc. Naaaahh . . . Steele's a pain in the butt. He got his just desserts. Leave him be. Get a NEW detective, maybe a female one, one less annoying. > >>As for the Jake and Chance as kids >>story I wrote for English class, I rewrote it this weekend, and sadly, I >>cannot send it to the list. First of all, it has next to nothing to do with >>the show aside from the fact it IS backstory (no mention of enforcers or >>anything). > >Well, send it, I don't care if it's a back story. It got Jake and Chance, isn't? The main reason I can't sent it to the Maxie site is I actually want it going as a simple short story to somewhere else (like a magazine or something). >BTW DJ, you will divided it in section, wouldn't you? Since that I have a hard time reading "Children of the Stone". Divide what into sections? "Vilthuril?" For your info, the sequel is actually longer than it's precessor, or at least it looks that way from this point. No, I really don't see a reason to break it out. I'm not sure how sending it in a few pieces is any different, aside for more work for Max. The speed you read it is the speed you read it. I can't control that unless I send it in in installments, and that's a pain. If it takes you a while, breaking it up won't change that. >>Secondly, it's an extremely Jewish story (I got inspired by >>Philip Roth's works) and I'm actually thinking of submitting it to a >>magazine or something (it's about 10 pages). > >Okay, so maybe it has some things, lets just call those things -- cross-overs stuff. Crossover? What is it crossing? > >>If I do, Chance will not be given a last name > >Hmmm, how about consulting us on giving him an alternative last name, after all, you did get Charon's name from this list. ;) Well, I can't really find something close to "Furlong" without sounding stupid, and why bother? There isn't a need for a last name. >>and Jake Clawson should become Jake Dawson, > >Hmmm... How about "Dawnson"? Again--why? I'll just give him a real name like Dawson. (side note: I saw some of "Murder in the First" on Saturday. The judge's name was Clawson. Cool, huh?) >You, write a story, send it to the story site. Me, write a story, throw it into the trash. Oh, never, NEVER throw away work, no matter how much you think it sucks. You can always learn from it. I have a hole folder of short stories (non-fanfic) that I HATE. > >>Personally, I can't see [Cally] with EITHER of [the SWAT Kats], and screw their lousy >>crushes. > >Er, who has the crushes? Come on, you've seen "The Giant Bacteria." The flirting scene. And the scene while they're watching TV while she's in the park. >>As for Chance, I can't see him settling down with anyone >>without his wild charisma. That's why I paired him with Felina in my >>stories--they're both gargoyles anyway, what's the difference? > >Well, one thing, Clawson and Feral don't mix, period! Felina isn't much of a Feral anymore, as you'll see in "Vilthuril" Whether she likes it or not, she's losing her kat side. >> Dr. Jake > >Hmmm, Dr. Jake (Dr. Jake as in DJ Clawson, that's mean you DJ! :) and Callie. Now that's an interesting idea, not a good one, but interesting nonetheless. :) Ummmm . . .. excuse me . . . what are you hinting? You ARE aware I'm female, right? >------------------------------------- >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >"Coming my queen!" > > Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiricies we don't know about." -Sensei McGee ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Jake Clawson (djclawson@garden.net) (XXRJ13C@prodigy.com) ------------------------------------------------------------------ "Accidents are conspiricies we don't know about." -Sensei McGee ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 17 12:40:05 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA14793 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 May 1996 19:49:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id TAA14770 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 19:49:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.150] (dyn1150a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.150]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id GAA27516 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 06:49:22 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 06:47:53 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Human-sized? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>On Sun, 12 May 1996, Paul Kemner wrote: >>>That's assuming that Kats are human-sized. Is there any way to tell? Then on Wed, 15 May 1996, Paul Kemner also wrote: >Another way that came to mind. In one of the Dr. V. eps, his 'pet' eats a >cow and a farmer on it's way to MKCity. Hmmm... "The Giant Bacteria"? >The cow is about the same relative size as some of our smaller breeds. Well, at least now we know that there is a T-Bone steak somewhere in MegaKat. And where do the kats get their milk. ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "Coming my queen!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 17 12:42:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA08188 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 May 1996 23:54:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA08177 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 23:54:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d145.infoserve.net [199.175.157.145]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA09601 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 21:01:44 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 21:01:44 -0700 Message-Id: <199605170401.VAA09601@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Katmail to Hanna-Barbera Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Okay, the fan-mail setup has changed yet again, as we thought, and "Classic" cartoons div. is no longer involved. The new setup has "Cartoon Network" responsible for handling H-B fanmail of all descriptions, but I don't have any further details at the moment WRT addresses and such. Writing Seibert *is* pointless, and I'm going to suggest that the FAQ reflect that as soon as Dana gets back (about the time I split for awhile too, so someone else might want to mention it). For those of us that talked with Michael Diaz or Mark Hughes, be advised that Hughes is no longer with them, and Diaz *is* essentially "Classics" now. (Hmm. Anything not current is a 'Classic', the kats are not current, ergo the Kats are an instant classic? Don't break an arm patting yourselves on the back. "Magilla Gorilla"'s in there somewheres too.) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 17 12:43:55 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id OAA09546 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 May 1996 14:41:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mv.mv.com (root@mv.mv.com [192.80.84.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id OAA09539 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 14:41:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by mv.mv.com (8.7.5/mem-940616) with ESMTP id OAA05649 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 14:41:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tole-cs-2.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-2.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.102]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id OAA15794 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 14:39:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 14:39:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605161839.OAA15794@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Re: Unmasked 2 and ... romance? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Edo wrote: >>Hmmm, Dr. Jake.... Dr. Jake wrote: >You ARE aware I'm female, right? Yeah- watch it Edo- you never know what folks on this list are- male, female, small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri, hive entities from Spica, etc. Ever notice how some of the katfans say they don't have much 'real world' experience? How some give their age, but don't specify Earth Years! There are plenty of hints if you look for them. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 17 12:47:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA14490 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 May 1996 15:15:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (root@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA14478 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 15:15:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [138.87.57.106] by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA67012; Thu, 16 May 1996 14:15:02 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 14:15:02 -0500 Message-Id: <9605161915.AA67012@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> X-Sender: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: "Kevin L. Knoles" Subject: Re: Early Kats renditions. Cc: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 03:09 PM 5/15/96 +0700, you wrote: >>But a pinkish sky isn't that strange, I think we've seen it on the show >>once before. > >In which episode? Though I can't name an episode of the top of my head, probably a few times. I seem to recall the second season opening has one. >>>Can you scan it? I think that the rest of us on the list want to see that >>>image, no matter how small it is. >> >>Well, I don't really know how to covert images to text for E-mailing, > >Have you try using UUlite? Uh, no. To be honest, I'm not sure how to go about working anything on these dang blasted high tech contraptions (I say in my most hickish accent.) I've really only learned enough to get by, but even that wasn't quite enough as evidenced by my ftping of images that were too dark. >>Hey, I get it. If and when they do revive it, they'll probably just say >>"Cancelled? Don't be ridiculous, it was just... an extended hiatus, yeah >>that's the ticket..." > >The question is, how long? Hmm, what's the time span between the cancellation of Jonny Quest and its revival? >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id Kevin L. Knoles From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 17 12:51:16 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA06762 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 May 1996 10:09:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA06749 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 10:09:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d143.infoserve.net [199.175.157.143]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA03183 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 07:16:11 -0700 Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 07:16:11 -0700 Message-Id: <199605161416.HAA03183@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: ... romance? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >At 07:41 AM 5/15/96 -0700, chance wrote: >>"The scent of her drove him wild with desire. Every breath, every movement, >> was a study in beauty. His heart raced..." > >"Oh!" Cried the katfans one by one, as they opened the fateful email. An odd >sensation leapt into the very core of their beings from the glowing phosphor >screens. Long-buried masochistic seeds took root and sprouted in their >hearts, sending tendrils that choked their taste and judgement, as the kudzu >vine covers all with it's alien morass. "Oh, Chance! We never knew that >katfic could be so... so... satisfying- so meaninful. Give us more- we MUST >have more! Pair Manx up with the old lady with the car that breaks down all >the time! Pair Ulysses Feral with Abi! Callie with Steele, Razor with a >Creepling! Ann with Dark Kat! Felina with Hard Drive! Yes, yes, YES!!!!" ROTFLMAO! Yes, fanfic entirely composed of overblown adjectives and adverbs...I like it. Throw in some halting sentences and you'd have Barbara Taylor Bradford cold. (Just tack an airsick bag to the bottom of the "foreword"...just to be safe and junk.) >Springtime in MegaKat City, Indeed! Maybe we should write a round-robin >Purple Prose Katfic, something katfans can turn to when there's no emetic in >the house. Hmm. "Captain Planet" tapes, every version of "Jane Eyre", a best-seller called "101 Bob Saget Quotes for Every Occasion" and a picture of the "Olsen Twins" in a heart-shaped frame. I think I've got "emetic" covered - don't you? (Man, I forgot the LD of "Barbarella"...) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 17 12:53:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id OAA09629 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 May 1996 14:43:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (root@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA09624 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 14:43:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [138.87.57.106] by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA47328; Thu, 16 May 1996 13:43:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 13:43:23 -0500 Message-Id: <9605161843.AA47328@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> X-Sender: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: "Kevin L. Knoles" Subject: Re: Viper's Eco concern? Cc: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 06:59 PM 5/11/96 -0400, you wrote: >At 12:59 PM 5/11/96 -0500, Kevin Knoles wrote: >>... before he became Dr. Viper, Elrod Purvis was a money grubbing >>anti-environmentalist, he didn't care a bit about the appilcation of the >I'd probably take a more romantic view. All of Elrod's money-grubbing >qualities were burned away (death & mutagens can do that to ya, I guess.) >Dr. V. may be missing a soul (ref to "s o u l" being the letters lost in the >Elrod Purvis to Dr Viper transition), but maybe his soul was rotten! So now >he's a heroic environmentalist! With MKCity being on the ocean, apparently >at the end of a river (thus the bridges), the city is built smack-dab on the >delta and estuary- prime wetlands. So let's feel a bit sorry for Dr V. when >his schemes are foiled. Got back on-line for just a few hours this afternoon. I hadn't really looked at it from that perspective before, and I guess it does work out that Viper is an environmentalist, albeit and extreme one, presented in a negative, but perhaps sympathetic light. But that's been stated thus far. Now we have to consider just *what* that says about environmentalists. Are they all being bashed, or is this a cautionary tale of a cause taken too far? If the latter is true, then why are we not really presented with a moderate environmentalist in the stories, as appears to be the case for fiction of that type? Maybe this is just more of SWAT Kats refusal to be a PC show? >Hello? Hello? Well, Kevin's probably off line by now. What a shame. I guess >I'll have to send the above by messenger cat. No need to bother if that was all you were planning on writing. As for any other letters, bring 'em on! >On the origin/what the heck are creeplings- I wonder if the creeplings are >mutated or possibly just *visible* Greeblings? In this world, Greeblings I *really* doubt creeplings have anything to do with Greeblings (which I had never heard of until you mentioned them.) in anything other than name. Then again, if that's where the name came from, then I guess it's possible. >Paul Kemner >pkemner@bright.net From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 17 12:57:29 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA13648 for kats-ll; Thu, 16 May 1996 15:05:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (root@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu [138.87.1.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA13642 for ; Thu, 16 May 1996 15:05:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [138.87.57.106] by rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA41998; Thu, 16 May 1996 14:05:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 14:05:20 -0500 Message-Id: <9605161905.AA41998@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> X-Sender: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: "Kevin L. Knoles" Subject: Re: Video Nitpicks! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 03:49 PM 5/13/96 EDT, you wrote: > >>reason I keep hearing Krusty the Clown read these things in my head and scream >>"Hey Kids!" with the occasional laughter. > >Well, I hate to remind you, but we're not the primary audience for >these videos (we being intelligent, thoughful fans). To Turner's >distribution operation these are just more fodder for the seemingly >insatiable kidvid market. Oh, I'm well aware of the mentality of the suits, but in every instance I've seen where an animated series is not dumbed down, the result has been excellent and the same goes for the write ups on a package. I think it's a more profitable option for them to not dumb down the write ups since the younger buyers are a given, but the older buyers might be driven away by such. >But don't feel bad. Buena Vista Home Video has been doing just as >loust a job on the packaging of Gargoyles and other series under >their purview. Makes one wonder if the designers actually see the >product they're designing the package for ("45 whole minutes?? But >that means I only have an hour and 15 minutes left for lunch!!!" :) And I'm also I'm well aware of how stupidly done some of the Gargoyles box art, specifically Gargoyles: The Movie was (see the scans I made at rat.org) and I've got the three or four page letter to Buena Vista home video to prove it. Of all the artwork they could have used, they made up some stuff that makes the gargs all Disneyfied. I can't say the write up in that particular inastance was all *that* bad. SWAT Kats was fortunately given good artwork, but wouldn't you know it, the write ups sucked. >> Thankfully the videos are recorded in the highest quality possible. The >>of crackle even at high volume. It's good to know that Turner is at least >>making certain his video releases are technically good. > >I know it's not everybody's cup of tea, but you should see the "Swan >Princess" LD before you say that. Horrible, absolutely horrible. >It's not as good a film as it could have been, but it doesn't >deserve such an execrable LD release. At least MCA got "Balto" right >on LD. Curse you, TedCo! >Ed Well, the *video* seems fine, and I guess we should be glad the videos from Tunrner aren't like f.h.e.'s - almost always EP. Too bad about the Swan Princess LD, i hope it's an exception (and why aren't the Kats on LD too?) Kevin L. Knoles From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri May 17 13:38:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA18842 for kats-ll; Fri, 17 May 1996 11:14:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA18796 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 11:13:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d146.infoserve.net [199.175.157.146]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA29923 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 08:21:35 -0700 Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 08:21:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199605171521.IAA29923@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Clueless Execs confined to Turner? Nope. They've just practiced. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >The amazing thing, for those of you that haven't worked in the corp-world >yet, is that the various levels of Tedco are probably run as well or better >than the average med-to-large corporation! Don't believe me? Just wait till >you've got jobs (heh, heh, heh!), then tell me about it. ^~^ Don't get me >wrong here. I like to complain as much as the next kat. Dumb decisions, deceit, misrepresentation of 'supporting' data - yeah, all of that sounds like fodder for corporate America - but I've seldom seem so much of it encapsulated in so small an area of real-estate. Not everyone over there is a cretin. A few I've talked to from time-to-time are well-grounded in reality and some have been honest to a fault. They don't hold the PIN number to Ted's bank account though, and couldn't refuel the Turbokat even if they wanted to. When I'm shouting atop my Turner-bashing haywagon, I'm seldom ranting at more than maybe five or six people tops...and even then, I don't suppose that every decision they've ever made is idiotic. Some make mistakes as a side-effect of their job, with others, the mistakes *define* their jobs. Turner appears to have had more than their fair share of the latter. See, on the one hand, Turnerco advertised to the world in "Animation Magazine" that SwatKats" Clawed its Way to the Top!" (Anniemag, Nov. 1994 - "poster1.jpg"), and quoted some Neilsen figures (the industry rating system, for those that don't know) in addition to promising "new episodes" and listing some licensed goods that would soon be available. Then, on the other hand (and around the same month, I think) Turner Entertainment cancels the program and blames "poor ratings" and "not moving enough merchandise". Hmm. Didn't that ad just proclaim great ratings before the whole world? And how can one "move merchandise" that the ad clearly states hasn't been created yet? So, let's say that the ratings were depressed in certain markets - particularly those large Western CONUS cities with them amazing 0530 timeslots - and Turner decided to can the series using the ratings info as reasoning. Why then do we still have "Captain Planet and the Planeteers"? Guess. Anyway, ratings interpretation, cancel/pursue decisions, green-lighting new concepts - all that stuff is derivative of Hollywood studio/network politics. Nothing else. "Captain Planet" has a powerful ally, "SwatKats" does not. All the fans have many voices to Ted's bombastic one - but that "one" has the bucks, and therefore the power. "Captain Planet" and whatever project Turner decides should be successful *will* be successful, and there'll always be some ratings somewhere that will appear to back that up irrespective of the truth. I personally despise hypocrisy, and the main problem with Hollywood entities like Turner.org is that while there's no shortage of accountants, there's no accountability. I'm one of those folks that still takes offence at dishonourable behaviour and often react like Don Quixote, but if everybody accepts behaviour like Turnerco's at the time Kats was canned, then it soon becomes the norm. I may have to learn to live with it, but I don't have to like it. (Which is why I won't work for a big corporation again. Too much like prostitution). Just don't expect >too much of them- planaria are maybe a bit higher on the evolutionary scale. Heh. "Each individual rises to the level of his own incompetence and remains there until retirement". Without going into details, I think the patron saint of animation execs like F.S. and Gary Krisel must be Eddie Selzer (it's obscure, sorry). Yeah, I can picture it now - a thousand candles or so around a shrine to Selzer - and a centerpiece featuring him that looks suspiciously like a bowling trophy. >Besides, now that G.O. (among others) have... well, lets say we would have >treated them better.... Who would do the voice of U. Feral in any revival, >for instance? The guy that does SG Coast to Coast & Cartoon Planet? The guy >that did Papa Smurf? What are our choices here, of those that might not come >back? Who would YOU pick? You know, I never thought of that. G.O. did lay down his tracks already for the unfinished three katseps, but what after that? I don't think he'd be in any great hurry to work for Ted again after the "Space Ghost" mess, but who knows? Gordon and Adler would probably reprise their roles in a second, and much of the supporting cast doesn't appear to be overemployed at the moment, but what do you do with a voice like Owens? He's been imitated up the wazoo by many other voice artists, but though you can imitate the resonance well enough, the delivery is all Gary. I think I especially adore the way he enunciates "crud", and thank Kats at every turn for reintroducing that particular word to the popular vernacular! (Saved my ass more than a few times in polite company when I've been tempted to use something more Saxon). I think Charlie Adler could efficiently double for Feral, or maybe Rob Paulsen, but no matter how talented the replacement is, there'll always be something missing. By all accounts, Owens is a great guy all 'round. (I'll try steer away from execu-rants in future, katgang - I'm sure it's of limited interest). _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 18 03:07:41 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA07138 for kats-ll; Fri, 17 May 1996 18:26:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA07132 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 18:26:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA17702; Fri, 17 May 1996 18:33:36 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 18:33:35 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Why Kats got canned? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hmm. I think I have found out why the kats got canned at that time. Turner was just coming out with TCN around that time, and they wanted to bring all their attention to the WPTs and Space Ghost, so they cancelled the currently running shows: SWAT Kats and 2 Stupid Dogs. There you have it. B & W. I NEED LETTERS AND TED JOKES!!!! PLEEEEEEAAAAASSSSEEEE!!! Don't just brush this off! Terra, Edo, are you up for the soundtrack? I must know! mail me with anything you have: Letters, Ted Jokes, if you want to send some fan art, send it on a disk via snail mail to: A.J. Freda 527 W. 11th St. Traverse City, MI 49684 I NEED SOME PARTICIPATION HERE PEOPLE!!!!! (Now letting go of the Shift button...) :) A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 18 03:15:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id SAA06149 for kats-ll; Fri, 17 May 1996 18:11:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA06133 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 18:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA16987; Fri, 17 May 1996 18:18:06 -0400 Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 18:18:06 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Fwd: Belated B-Day (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Here's a b-day message I sent to toonnet! A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 23:49:42 -0400 From: ToonNet@aol.com To: ah518@aol.com Subject: Fwd: Belated B-Day Hi! Thanks for writing! We'll forward your belated birthday greetings to Mr. Owens over to Beautiful Downtown Burbank, where's he's been known to hang out! Thanks for writing and stay tooned! Cartoon Network --------------------- Forwarded message: From: ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us (ARTHUR JOHN FREDA) To: toonnet@aol.com Date: 96-05-16 20:17:59 EDT Happy 60th Belated Birthday to Gary Owens! Great Job on SWAT Kats! I just hope that when he calls for chopper backup, that he doesn't need an extra set of dentures. :) >From all of us on the SWAT Kats mailing list A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat May 18 03:24:11 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id XAA05032 for kats-ll; Fri, 17 May 1996 23:38:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id XAA05025 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 23:38:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tole-cs-2.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-2.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.102]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id XAA02419 for ; Fri, 17 May 1996 23:37:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 23:37:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605180337.XAA02419@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Re: ... romance? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 07:16 AM 5/16/96 -0700, chance wrote: >ROTFLMAO! Yes, fanfic entirely composed of overblown adjectives >and adverbs...I like it. Throw in some halting sentences and you'd >have Barbara Taylor Bradford cold. (Just tack an airsick bag to the bottom >of the "foreword"...just to be safe and junk.) "Y-Y-You mean.... like this?" Good thing I use my talents only for good, not evil! ^-^ Got a great idea on this, but I'll wait for general release until the kats still being schooled get their general release. >>... something katfans can turn to when there's no emetic in the house. > >Hmm. "Captain Planet" tapes, every version of "Jane Eyre", a best-seller called >"101 Bob Saget Quotes for Every Occasion" and a picture of the "Olsen Twins" >in a heart-shaped frame. I think I've got "emetic" covered - don't you? Hhhhuuuuurrrrrkkkk! (quick- think of TurboKat, think about seeing Miyazaki's LAPUTA tommorow, think of anthropomorphic felines! Whew!) Man! I just had dinner, got to be careful what I read. >(Man, I forgot the LD of "Barbarella"...) Actually, shouldn't that be good to see? If being embarrasing to JF&Co counts for anything, it should (just grit your teeth & say "It's for the good of the whole world!") B.C.N.U. Paul From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 19 11:38:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id PAA24285 for kats-ll; Sat, 18 May 1996 15:05:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA24277 for ; Sat, 18 May 1996 15:05:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA17078; Sat, 18 May 1996 15:12:31 -0400 Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 15:12:30 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Orazio or whatever Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net If I could do a day on TCN, this is what it would be: 12 noon: 2 Stupid Dogs 12:30PM: 2 Stupid Dogs 1:00PM: 2 Stupid Dogs 1:30PM: 2 Stupid Dogs 2:00PM: SWAT Kats (Mutation City) 2:30PM: SWAT Kats (Bright and Shiny Future) 3:00PM: SWAT Kats (When Strikes Mutilor) 3:30PM: SWAT Kats (Katseye News Special Report) 4:00PM: SWAT Kats (Unlikely Alloys) 4:30PM: SWAT Kats (Deadly Piramid) 5:00PM: SWAT Kats (The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice) 5:30PM: SWAT KATS (Katastrophe) Complete with "Today on SWAT Kats" and the Secret Files A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 19 11:39:38 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA17873 for kats-ll; Sat, 18 May 1996 20:27:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA17868 for ; Sat, 18 May 1996 20:27:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl35.redding.snowcrest.net (sl35.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.131]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA02503 for ; Sat, 18 May 1996 17:27:28 -0700 Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 17:27:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199605190027.RAA02503@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Casshan Subject: Re: Jonny Quest vs. Kats, who would win? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Johnny Quest is leaving Cartoon Network!! I don't know if anyone else saw >>this, but they're showing these promos that say stuff like: "Dr. Zinn's >>dream has come true . . . Johnny Quest is leaving," and what not. =P > >Aiiiiieeee! At least there is going to be a marathon before he goes. Is >this for good? Lets hope so. That will leave more air time for Kats (I >wish). I thought the parody on Freakazoid was better than the original Since when does Freakazoid fit in with SWAT Kats? >show. The "semi-conductor" that looks like the Big Guy really cracks me >up. > Zed? For once, I'm totally lost! Yike! spend all your time trying to get a web browser and now Freakazoid fits in with SWAT Kats! > Seeing the world from my perspective? > _______________________________________________________________ (Retarded)..... To heck with this! I don't want this crud anymore! ----------------------Ryan "Casshan" Kelley--------------------------------------- SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Casshan!.... I grow weary of that name." Android "Black King" BK1 _______________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 19 11:54:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA18131 for kats-ll; Sat, 18 May 1996 20:33:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA18123 for ; Sat, 18 May 1996 20:33:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl35.redding.snowcrest.net (sl35.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.131]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA02631 for ; Sat, 18 May 1996 17:33:28 -0700 Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 17:33:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199605190033.RAA02631@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Casshan Subject: Re: JQ and SK, Axes and Cans....... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > I was watching a few eps of the "Farewell Jonny Quest" marathon >and I was paying attention to the artwork done. It is exteremly good for >the year it was made and what technology was available. Yet it got the ax. > SWAT Kats has exteremly good artwork for the year it was made and >the technology available. It got canned too. Seems like there's a >connection here.......... It's called, The general public is dumb. Only the cartoons which survive in America are dumb. Most cartoons are on a fourth grade level (I'll be nice), and attract millions of fans. Yay! Let's go watch Senior Tonto who looks like a blob jump off a rectangle! Yes, I perfer anime because it's more complex. When it makes you think, most people don't like to think. SWAT Kats and Jonney Quest are like that. Oh well..... _______________________________________________________________ (Retarded)..... To heck with this! I don't want this crud anymore! ----------------------Ryan "Casshan" Kelley--------------------------------------- SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Casshan!.... I grow weary of that name." Android "Black King" BK1 _______________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 19 11:55:23 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA17379 for kats-ll; Sat, 18 May 1996 20:14:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA17374 for ; Sat, 18 May 1996 20:14:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl35.redding.snowcrest.net (sl35.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.131]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA02167 for ; Sat, 18 May 1996 17:14:26 -0700 Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 17:14:26 -0700 Message-Id: <199605190014.RAA02167@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Casshan Subject: Re: IT'S FINISHED!!!!!!!! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Okay, a few days? weeks? ago, somebody asked if anyone was doing any 'fic >writing. I responded and said I was. >AND IT'S FINALLY DONE!! (or at least part one is) I've sent it to Max, and >now I'm waiting for it to be put up. ('S kinda long, so that might take a >while.) >If anyone would like, I can send them a copy of it. (yes, I'm shamelessly >advertising, but WHO CARES?????? ) > After Netscape said "Up yours! I'm gonna stop working!" to me, It was a nice thing to come and see all the new fanfics that have come my way (Mabye this should happen more often!), now my printer's saying "You're not giving me enough love in my life, so, goodbye!" (I have to court the peice of junk to make the thing work, a pathetic thing, really! >It's called "Blood Moon Rising". It's a vampire story. (Hey, I've been Yes, I got page one, then my printer died. >threatening to do one for a while now, as people who have been here as long >or longer than I have know ;) ) I would really like, whether you get it from >me or download it from the site, if you gave me your opinion. I'll still >finish it if you hate it, but if I know you like it, I could work harder on >parts two and so on. Hey, I know what it's like to create a vampire story! After all my technical difficulties, I've gotta read it! >I always ask for people's advice, but this time I'm really desperate for >feedback!! ****PLEASE**** tell me what you think. Pretty, pretty please? > The aforementioned statement says enough for now. >Erin's read part of it, she's said it's good, but I need more than just one >feedback! (tho I greatly appreciate *good* feedback!) ;) > don't we all 8^) >OKAY that's it for now. Remember: I NEED TO >KNOW YOUR OPINIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Us writers are always open for opinions! >Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional. Yeah, I know. We all grow old, but my 8 year old brother still acts like a two year old! 8^P _______________________________________________________________ (Retarded)..... To heck with this! I don't want this crud anymore! ----------------------Ryan "Casshan" Kelley--------------------------------------- SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Casshan!.... I grow weary of that name." Android "Black King" BK1 _______________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 19 12:13:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id MAA02575 for kats-ll; Sun, 19 May 1996 12:04:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id MAA02570 for ; Sun, 19 May 1996 12:04:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from net-6-167.austin.eden.com (net-6-167.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.167]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id LAA18011 for ; Sun, 19 May 1996 11:04:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 11:04:25 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199605191604.LAA18011@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: IT'S FINISHED!!!!!!!! X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >After Netscape said "Up yours! I'm gonna stop working!" to me, It was a nice >thing to come and see all the new fanfics that have come my way (Mabye this >should happen more often!), now my printer's saying "You're not >giving me enough love in my life, so, goodbye!" (I have to court the peice >of junk to make the thing work, a pathetic thing, really! Ahhhh . . . *my* printer doesn't do that to *me*. Oh well . . . ;) >Yes, I got page one, then my printer died. Oh. Oh dear. Did you deplete all your money sources paying for the funeral? >Hey, I know what it's like to create a vampire story! After all my technical >difficulties, I've gotta read it! Does this mean you want me to send you a copy of what's already written & posted to Max's site? >don't we all 8^) oh yes. The problem is, many people who read what we write are too damn lazy to send us a line to tell us what they thought! (Wahhh!) >Us writers are always open for opinions! Y'know that better'n' most, sweetie! >>Growing old is mandatory. Growing up is optional. >Yeah, I know. We all grow old, but my 8 year old brother still acts like a >two year old! 8^P I'm twelve . . . and I act like I'm from another planet! (That would explain all those weird looks I got at lunch a few days ago . . . ;) ) And I just found out I'm related to a certain Mssr. LeBrat. Not that I don't like it, in fact, he's my fav vampire in the entire series! heh heh . . . whoops. I won't do that again, okay? (promises, promises ;) ) Terra Chang "My mother has eyes on the back of her head! I don't quite believe it, but that's what she said! She explained that she'd been so uniquely endowed To catch me when I did Things Not Allowed. I've noticed she also has eyes on her rear, I've noticed her hindsight's unusually clear." --Bill Watterson, from "The Indespensible Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 19 16:44:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id NAA08075 for kats-ll; Sun, 19 May 1996 13:33:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id NAA08068 for ; Sun, 19 May 1996 13:33:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tole-cs-2.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-2.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.102]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id NAA03787 for ; Sun, 19 May 1996 13:33:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 13:33:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605191733.NAA03787@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Re: Orazio or whatever Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 03:12 PM 5/18/96 -0400, A.J. Freda wrote: > If I could do a day on TCN, this is what it would be:...snip How about flying the entire kats mailing list to Atlanta...( no.. change that to Japan! to visit the Mook studios), & do a live remote party from there! Meet the creators, voice actors, writers, etc. B.C.N.U. Paul Kemner From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 19 16:47:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id OAA13158 for kats-ll; Sun, 19 May 1996 14:44:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ns.halifax.com (root@ns.halifax.com [206.99.226.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA13149 for ; Sun, 19 May 1996 14:44:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from buford.halifax.com (buford [206.99.226.90]) by ns.halifax.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA08449 for ; Sun, 19 May 1996 14:43:29 -0400 Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 14:43:29 -0400 Message-Id: <199605191843.OAA08449@ns.halifax.com> X-Sender: buford@halifax.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: buford@halifax.com (Brother Buford) Subject: Character ages Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net There has been little traffic lately, so I think I'll add something to the list. How old do you (listmembers) think most of the SK characters are? Here's my take on it: Jake and Chance - 20's, Chance older by 2 or 3 years Callie Briggs - she'd never tell (probably 20's) Mayor Manx (what's his first name?) - 50's Cmdr. Feral - 40's Lt. Feral - late 20's Lt. Cmdr. Steele - 20's the nameless Enforcer Sergeant - 40's Prof. Hackle - late 60's early 70's Ann Gora - 20's most all of the scientists - 20's to 30's Burke & Murray - probably late 20's early 30's the Pastmaster - over 800 Dark Kat - 40's Dr. Viper - 30's Mac & Molly (as living kats) - 30's Rex Shard - 30's Hard Drive - 20's Brother Buford email: buford@halifax.com ============== Halifax, VA; NOT Nova Scotia :) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun May 19 19:25:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id RAA26917 for kats-ll; Sun, 19 May 1996 17:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id RAA26912 for ; Sun, 19 May 1996 17:28:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from net-6-165.austin.eden.com (net-6-165.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.165]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id QAA02681 for ; Sun, 19 May 1996 16:28:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 16:28:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199605192128.QAA02681@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Character ages X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >There has been little traffic lately, so I think I'll add something to the list. Yeah, I know. Slow mail week. >How old do you (listmembers) think most of the SK characters are? Well . . . >Here's my take on it: And I add mine to it! >Jake and Chance - 20's, Chance older by 2 or 3 years I believe when asked, one of the Trembly (for shame, I've forgoten how to spell it!) said they were in their mid-twenties, and Chance was the elder. >Callie Briggs - she'd never tell (probably 20's) I'd say older than Jake and younger than Chance. WHich doesn't leave a lot, if we ever find out how old they really are. >Mayor Manx (what's his first name?) - 50's Yeah, fifty-six going on five. (Remember, he doesn't do any paperwork any more!) >Cmdr. Feral - 40's 45-ish or so. >Lt. Feral - late 20's Naw, I'd say either late teens (19 going on fifty) or early twenties. >Lt. Cmdr. Steele - 20's Ahhh, I don't like him. I don't care. >the nameless Enforcer Sergeant - 40's Which one? There are many of them. >Prof. Hackle - late 60's early 70's late seventies, early eighties. >Ann Gora - 20's No argument here. >most all of the scientists - 20's to 30's Nooo . . . I'd say that either Zyme or Greenbox was in their early forties. >Burke & Murray - probably late 20's early 30's Boo! Hiss! (Not to mention that since Murray is so short, it's hard to tell) >the Pastmaster - over 800 well, *duh*, he's always complaining he's been locked up "for these eight hundred years," and he's gotta be older than that so he can have time to do these heinous crimes that got him in trouble in the first place. >Dark Kat - 40's Dark Kat? 40-ish or so? Hahahahahahahahahahaah ::collapses laughing:: I don't think so. More like 400 to me. >Dr. Viper - 30's >Mac & Molly (as living kats) - 30's >Rex Shard - 30's >Hard Drive - 20's You know, I don't really know. (I think I agree with you on Viper, Mac n' Molly, and Rex. But Hard Drive . . . Eyeah . . . no, not really.) >Brother Buford email: buford@halifax.com >============== Halifax, VA; NOT Nova Scotia :) >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >"640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gates Why does everyone put their e-mail address on the sigs these days? I don't. And don't bite me head off, I was just curious. BTW, how old are *you*, Mssr. Brother Buford? (I think I've said this about a hundred times already, but I'm twelve.) Terra Chang "Here we go again!!" ``````````````````` "You've gone over the edge!" "Yeah--ain't it cool?" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon May 20 02:56:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA18234 for kats-ll; Sun, 19 May 1996 21:58:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA18225 for ; Sun, 19 May 1996 21:58:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl4.redding.snowcrest.net (sl4.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.68]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA02771 for ; Sun, 19 May 1996 18:55:27 -0700 Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 18:55:27 -0700 Message-Id: <199605200155.SAA02771@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Casshan Subject: Re: Early Kats renditions. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>How different is the original TurboKat from the one that we saw on TV? > > Good Question. I wanna know too. All I've seen is a small >poster of an early version of the SWAT Kats in WCK #1. >don't get the impression that it was >anything big, just a tiny mention and postage stamp size image, so >insignificant that I didn't bother to scan it. Oh, don't worry, I hope your scanner can enlarge it, and if you can't, I definatly could, hopefully with it not becoming too blocky. Anyway, I'd like to see it. _______________________________________________________________ (Retarded)..... To heck with this! I don't want this crud anymore! ----------------------Ryan "Casshan" Kelley--------------------------------------- SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Casshan!.... I grow weary of that name." Android "Black King" BK1 _______________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon May 20 03:12:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA19003 for kats-ll; Sun, 19 May 1996 22:13:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA18998 for ; Sun, 19 May 1996 22:13:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl4.redding.snowcrest.net (sl4.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.68]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA03289 for ; Sun, 19 May 1996 19:10:33 -0700 Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 19:10:33 -0700 Message-Id: <199605200210.TAA03289@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Casshan Subject: Re: S.K.I.Q. and New Eps Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Okay, I found out that TCN *will* be airing "Katseye News Special Report/ >S.K.I.Q." during an upcoming Kats "Super-chunk", but still don't have anything >definite on any possible new eps. I'll make some calls. > ACK!! NO!!! Of course.... they do this after I logged off Prodigy (where I find the times for SK, since my local television guides fail to list it). Now I have to watch that stupid thing. When are they going to show it? When? If they've already had, you never knew that psycopath on the news who commited seuicide over a television show. Okay? _______________________________________________________________ (Retarded)..... To heck with this! I don't want this crud anymore! ----------------------Ryan "Casshan" Kelley--------------------------------------- SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Casshan!.... I grow weary of that name." Android "Black King" BK1 _______________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon May 20 03:27:12 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA18537 for kats-ll; Sun, 19 May 1996 22:04:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA18532 for ; Sun, 19 May 1996 22:04:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl4.redding.snowcrest.net (sl4.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.68]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA02936 for ; Sun, 19 May 1996 19:01:25 -0700 Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 19:01:25 -0700 Message-Id: <199605200201.TAA02936@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Casshan Subject: Re: Fwd: JQ, SWAT Kats, and 2 Stupid Dogs (fwd) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Hi there Buster Bunny...thanks for writing! You'll be pleased to know that >JQ will be returning in the fall with all new episodes in the New Adventures >of Johnny Quest! Unfourtionatly, I think almost the entire northern part of California isn't going to be so happy about that! > New episodes for SwatKats and Two Stupid Dogs are a >possibilty for the new season next fall so stay tooned! Keep on watching! IMHO, I can't understand exactly WHAT are the dogs. I've had the shapes beed pointed out to me numerous times, but I still see a grey ameobia, and a brown monkey that walks on all fours. I only have one thing to look forward to ( ) > >The Cartoon Network Gee, dosen't that come from... WAIT A MMINUTE!!.... Um, forget you read this, I'll stay polite. _______________________________________________________________ (Retarded)..... To heck with this! I don't want this crud anymore! ----------------------Ryan "Casshan" Kelley--------------------------------------- SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Casshan!.... I grow weary of that name." Android "Black King" BK1 _______________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon May 20 03:27:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id BAA16392 for kats-ll; Mon, 20 May 1996 01:42:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id BAA16387 for ; Mon, 20 May 1996 01:42:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.53] (dyn1053a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.53]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id MAA02163 for ; Mon, 20 May 1996 12:42:33 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 12:40:54 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Questions about "When Strikes Mutilor" Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net If the ship that he use to drain the water from MegaKat bay belong to the= aquians, where is his real mothership? And are there any more space pirates= out there in the galaxy? If the aliens that buy the water didn't get their= water from Mutilor, will they buy it from someone else? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon May 20 03:30:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA17412 for kats-ll; Sun, 19 May 1996 21:51:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA17342 for ; Sun, 19 May 1996 21:51:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl4.redding.snowcrest.net (sl4.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.68]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA02556 for ; Sun, 19 May 1996 18:48:27 -0700 Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 18:48:27 -0700 Message-Id: <199605200148.SAA02556@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Casshan Subject: Re: Terra's Poll and fanfic POV Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >A half-digested Edo wrote: (get it? kats-digest...oh, never mind...) > I've done that... twice! Once, was Dark Ages (merged with a Tribute to Mr. Barneylover [ancient Chinese joke]) and again in the Archeivers Saga (Really SWAT Kats aren't used as much as lead characters, but play a huge part, to the fourth power!) >>Well, here's an idea of mine, make a story from the POV of your very own fanfic character, you can make that character as a character that connect the junkyard, Enforcer HQ, museum, City Hall, etc. > Write it up when you have the time. I'm sure we'd all love it. You will do that won't you and thank U very much (get my drift?) >>Arrgghh!! If I ever catches the one that write a love story of either Callie and Jake or Chance and Felina, I will... I will... Nevermind, it's too violent for me to say it. Although that the idea of putting a green ribbon or a purple ribbon to the one that write it does come up. I like purple! What's wrong with a ribbon? _______________________________________________________________ (Retarded)..... To heck with this! I don't want this crud anymore! ----------------------Ryan "Casshan" Kelley--------------------------------------- SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Casshan!.... I grow weary of that name." Android "Black King" BK1 _______________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon May 20 03:34:12 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA18300 for kats-ll; Sun, 19 May 1996 21:59:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA18294 for ; Sun, 19 May 1996 21:59:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tole-cs-1.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-1.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.101]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id VAA16927 for ; Sun, 19 May 1996 21:59:02 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 21:59:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199605200159.VAA16927@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Pondering the Rainbow Bridge & fanfic Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Slow mail week. Yeah. Well, I was wondering if anybody ever did a tally of how many kats cross the rainbow bridge (pass on, join the kat choir eternal, are ex-kats, etc.etc) in each episode, and what the body count for each villain is. It's a complicated problem in these BS&P-influenced days. You'd have to define what constitutes a 'kill'- (aircraft shot down, no chute?, Pumadyne guards apparently eaten, the hoods looking at Mac's cigar-bomb in Metallikats, etc.) Sone of the episodes would be really iffy- was everyone out of town visiting their relatives on Mutation City day? Otherwise having the city flood to about a 10+ story level with hungry froggies around would have, *ahem*, reduced the number of taxpayers quite a bit. Anyway, right now I don't have the time to go through all my tapes (now a complete high-speed set! Yay!) frame-by-frame to do a count. Do any of my fellow fugitives from the 'Please, Please, Pleez Get Yourself A Life Foundation' have the time to do this? Or perhaps you have already done it, and have a nice footnoted spreadsheet detailing the results of your efforts? =_= =_= =_= =_= =_= =_= =_= Casshan & Terra wrote, on fanfic: > oh yes. The problem is, many people who read what we write >are too damn lazy to send us a line to tell us what they thought! (Wahhh!) Yeah! I've sent some notes to a couple of the authors. Like Terra, I think it's a good idea to send some sort of feedback. It doesn't even need to be detailed. I'm sure that any author would appreciate a simple note like: "I read your story - 'Callie's Perfect Wedding Day part 7', and it was.... interesting." See- it's simple! (hint hint) It's good to know that *someone* is reading this stuff. It takes time to type stories up, and the advance payments aren't very high (though the royalty percentages are astronomical!) Ages ago (Terra?) remarked that nobody writes story reviews to the list. Is this something that the other SK authors would all appreciate? Or is personal email preferable? ____________________________________________________ Paul Kemner Callie's Perfect Wedding Day, part 7 (still in the concept stage) The Tortie Papers- Part 8- being written now! ____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon May 20 03:44:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id UAA10943 for kats-ll; Sun, 19 May 1996 20:37:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA10937 for ; Sun, 19 May 1996 20:37:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl4.redding.snowcrest.net (sl4.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.68]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA00463 for ; Sun, 19 May 1996 17:34:50 -0700 Date: Sun, 19 May 1996 17:34:50 -0700 Message-Id: <199605200034.RAA00463@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Casshan Subject: Re: Dark Kat (It's Buford again) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I just had an idea about Dark Kat... > Don't we all 8^) >DK could be based on Darth Vader. Well... >There *are* similarities between the two. > really? >I mean, think about it... duh..... >1. both have deep voices I guess >2. both are evil My Ztarr Warz extremist (Hey, mabye he has a crush on Fluke Skyhopper! I don't mean this as an insult so nobody take it as one) friend says that Darth Vader was really working on the side of justice, only with the Imperial class X-Empire Wing 95 it's gotta defragger (I think that's right, I'm not sure) people, they still kept some evil as a norm in their scociety, so I think this statement is false. >3. both are large and strong Gee, I considered Darth Vader average in largeness and strong only with the Schwartz. >4. both are mysterious I, for one, do not find Dark Kat all that mysterious. I donno. He seems to have all his actions play a single purpose, but is true. But that little is known about this advasairy, he's not so nearly as mysteroius as Darth Vader. >5. both can fly ships (I mean they're pilots, sort of - they don't exactly fly planes) No dissagreement here. >6. both have a skullish looking face I thought of Vader as having a face plate that resembled Arislan's helmet. Vader's real face was human, so I can't make the connection. >7. both wear a cloak and head covering I understand that. > >I realize that Darth Vader worked for the Empire and Dark Kat works for no >one but himself, but DK may be based on Vader. DK may even be part machine, >because who knows what he looks like under his cloak. He is extremely >strong as well, and that could have something to do with it. And where did >that that purple fur come from? > I've got a theroy for that. I think that Dark kat was once honest and just, but still highly vicious. He pobably mutated himself then died in the process. Later, he was able to return into our relm from the Purple Neitherworld, explaining his purple fur, and his strength, due to his feeling of pain being numbed. His uncanny methods of surviving explosions and air crashes are also explained in this, since he has died, he cannot die again. _______________________________________________________________ (Retarded)..... To heck with this! I don't want this crud anymore! ----------------------Ryan "Casshan" Kelley--------------------------------------- SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Casshan!.... I grow weary of that name." Android "Black King" BK1 _______________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon May 20 13:01:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA01907 for kats-ll; Mon, 20 May 1996 11:03:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id LAA01845 for ; Mon, 20 May 1996 11:03:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.164] (dyn1164a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.164]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id WAA06124 for ; Mon, 20 May 1996 22:02:35 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 22:01:18 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Orazio or whatever Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sat, 18 May 1996, ARTHUR JOHN FREDA wrote: > If I could do a day on TCN, this is what it would be: Hmmm, how about an all kats day? >A.J. Freda >ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon May 20 13:28:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA01970 for kats-ll; Mon, 20 May 1996 11:03:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id LAA01812 for ; Mon, 20 May 1996 11:02:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.164] (dyn1164a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.164]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id WAA06132 for ; Mon, 20 May 1996 22:02:38 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 22:01:20 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: The guessing game. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>There has been little traffic lately, so I think I'll add something to the >>list. > >Yeah, I know. Slow mail week. Well, I like to send a lot of mail to the list. >>How old do you (listmembers) think most of the SK characters are? > >Well . . . > >>Here's my take on it: > >And I add mine to it! Me too! >>Jake and Chance - 20's, Chance older by 2 or 3 years > >I believe when asked, one of the Trembly (for shame, I've forgoten how to >spell it!) said they were in their mid-twenties, and Chance was the elder. Tremblay. Don't worry, you only missing an "a". >>Callie Briggs - she'd never tell (probably 20's) > >I'd say older than Jake and younger than Chance. WHich doesn't leave a lot, >if we ever find out how old they really are. Well, I say that she is in her late 20's, going to be 30. >>Mayor Manx (what's his first name?) - 50's Montague? Maxwell? Londo? >Yeah, fifty-six going on five. (Remember, he doesn't do any paperwork any more!) Same here. Mid-50's. >>Cmdr. Feral - 40's > >45-ish or so. "No comment". >>Lt. Feral - late 20's > >Naw, I'd say either late teens (19 going on fifty) or early twenties. Nah, I think that she is alot older than that. About the same age as Callie perhaps? >>Lt. Cmdr. Steele - 20's > >Ahhh, I don't like him. I don't care. Well, I sorta like him. So I say 23. >>the nameless Enforcer Sergeant - 40's > >Which one? There are many of them. Pick one. But I say that they are in their mid 30's. >>Prof. Hackle - late 60's early 70's > >late seventies, early eighties. Grandpa Hackle? >>Ann Gora - 20's > >No argument here. I guess that she is in her mid 20's. Starting to work in the journalistic world from her late teens. Although that in a couple of second season episodes - she look much older than in the first season. >>most all of the scientists - 20's to 30's > >Nooo . . . I'd say that either Zyme or Greenbox was in their early forties. Well, I think that Greenbox is in his mid-30's. But I agreed that Zyme does look like in his early 40's, probably he is a family kat. Yo! What about Dr. Konway? I say that he is in his late 40's. Although that I think that Dr. Conway is a lot older than Konway. 60's perhaps? Dr. Sinian? I say that she is in her mid 30's. >>Burke & Murray - probably late 20's early 30's > >Boo! Hiss! (Not to mention that since Murray is so short, it's hard to tell) Hey, the Pastmaster is short, and he is over 800 years old. >>the Pastmaster - over 800 > >well, *duh*, he's always complaining he's been locked up "for these eight >hundred years," and he's gotta be older than that so he can have time to do >these heinous crimes that got him in trouble in the first place. Who lock him up anyway? Could it be that MadKat and the Pastmaster once met? >>Dark Kat - 40's > >Dark Kat? 40-ish or so? Hahahahahahahahahahaah ::collapses laughing:: I >don't think so. More like 400 to me. Hey, for all what we know, he could be a 4 year old. :) >>Dr. Viper - 30's >>Mac & Molly (as living kats) - 30's >>Rex Shard - 30's >>Hard Drive - 20's > >You know, I don't really know. (I think I agree with you on Viper, Mac n' >Molly, and Rex. But Hard Drive . . . Eyeah . . . no, not really.) Can't comment on Viper's age. Haven't seen Elrod Purvis. Mac and Molly? Yeah, same estimation too, early 30's. Hard Drive? Is that his real name or his net name? Okay, here is two beings that I like to know how old they are. How old is Zed? How old is Mutilor? >>Brother Buford email: buford@halifax.com > >Why does everyone put their e-mail address on the sigs these days? I don't. >And don't bite me head off, I was just curious. So that people will know who is the one that write the message and on where to send the reply to. >BTW, how old are *you*, Mssr. Brother Buford? Well, I guess that Brother Buford is around 17-18. >(I think I've said this about a hundred times already, but I'm twelve.) Hmmm, a hundred times 12. 1200 years old? :) >Terra Chang ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon May 20 13:51:58 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA01987 for kats-ll; Mon, 20 May 1996 11:04:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id LAA01979 for ; Mon, 20 May 1996 11:03:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [202.154.6.164] (dyn1164a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.164]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id WAA06109 for ; Mon, 20 May 1996 22:02:20 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 20 May 1996 22:01:04 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Unmasked 2 and ... romance? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Wed, 15 May 1996, Edo Andromedo wrote: >>Well chance, this could be an idea for the sequel of SwatKats Unmasked. >>Steel(e) still upset from 'SwatKats Unmasked' decided to make full >>investigation on the guys. On Wed, 15 May 1996, DJ Clawson wrote: > Naaaahh . . . Steele's a pain in the butt. He got his just desserts. >Leave him be. Get a NEW detective, maybe a female one, one less annoying. That is one of Steel(e)'s special qualities, he can be one very annoying kat indeed. >>Well, send it, I don't care if it's a back story. It got Jake and Chance, >>isn't? > > The main reason I can't sent it to the Maxie site is I actually want it >going as a simple short story to somewhere else (like a magazine or something). Why? >>BTW DJ, you will divided it in section, wouldn't you? Since that I have a >>hard time reading "Children of the Stone". > > Divide what into sections? "Vilthuril?" Well, I mean to the backstory about Jake and Chance. But doing that to "Vilthuril" would also be nice too. >For your info, the sequel is >actually longer than it's precessor, or at least it looks that way from this >point. No, I really don't see a reason to break it out. I'm not sure how >sending it in a few pieces is any different, aside for more work for Max. I mean divide it in lots of chapters, not part by part like "Midnight Magic". In "Children of the Stone", you only divided it in two parts. >The speed you read it is the speed you read it. I can't control that unless >I send it in in installments, and that's a pain. If it takes you a while, >breaking it up won't change that. Hey, I got a fast reading speed. Only that sometimes that I have to leave, and when I got back to reading it, I forgot which part of the story that I already read. Example: I was reading your story, at then when suddenly... "Mutation City" is on. I said to myself, okay, what chapter that I was reading? 2? Okay, chapter 2. I will start reading it again at chapter 2. >>>Secondly, it's an extremely Jewish story (I got inspired by >>>Philip Roth's works) and I'm actually thinking of submitting it to a >>>magazine or something (it's about 10 pages). >> >>Okay, so maybe it has some things, lets just call those things -- >>cross-overs stuff. > > Crossover? What is it crossing? You know, it's like when you're using some Gargoyles in your story, that maybe not be a full cross-overs, but it has some materials that can be consider as a cross-overs. Well, at least to me that is. >>>If I do, Chance will not be given a last name >> >>Hmmm, how about consulting us on giving him an alternative last name, after >>all, you did get Charon's name from this list. ;) > > Well, I can't really find something close to "Furlong" without sou