From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 16:11:09 1996 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 13:13:30 -0800 Message-Id: <199604012113.NAA23995@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Ted's Excellent Speaking Engagement Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Some folks have wondered both here and in e-mail why The Ted does certain things, apparently flying in the face of all logic. The following excerpt from "Entertainment Weekly" might help answer some lingering questions as to the motivational aspect of things, at least. "Ted's Excellent Speaking Engagement" When it comes to public speaking, Ted Turner is as composed, self-possessed, and reserved as any professional would be. Professional wrestler, that is. In a rambling, half-hour discussion at the recent Variety/Wertheim Schroder Big Picture Media Conference in New York City, "Jane Fonda's last husband" -- as he called himself -- expounded on topics ranging from his recent attempts to buy CBS, to the hottest company in entertainment ("Turner Broadcasting. Next question."), to his personal business philosophy ("We leave no turn unstoned"). Here's a sampling of the wit and wisdom of Chairman Ted. ON HOW TO BEAT THE COMPETITION: "I'm only 56. Rupert Murdoch (64) and Sumner Redstone (71) are the two guys in this business richer than I am. But if the actuarial tables are right, *I'll* be the richest guy in the business in another ten years." ON HIS FUTURE: "I've got a pocketful of big plans. But I'm not going to show my hand. I mean, you didn't see Eisenhower faxing Hitler the plans for the invasion of Europe." ON GLOBAL EXPANSION: "We have our entertainment networks everywhere but Africa. And we're talking about going into Africa with 'Tom and Jerry' because Africans like cartoons too. Trouble is, most of them don't have television sets or electricity." ON BEAVIS AND BUTT-HEAD: "We have more cartoons than anybody: 'The Flintstones', 'The Jetsons', 'The Smurfs', 'Scooby-Doo'. They're nonviolent. We don't have to worry that we're encouraging kids to kill each other -- like *SOME* of the other cartoon programs do." ON THE CLASSICS: "..[Turner Broadcasting's] closing in on 4,000 motion pictures. That's the good news. The bad news is 2,000 of them are in black and white. But that's not a problem because we colorized the best 100 of them." ________________________END QUOTED MATERIAL______________ I especially adore that "Beavis and Butt-Head" paragraph. Guess nobody told him that Turner division "New Line" released the TMNT movies and "Mortal Kombat", huh? Not to mention optioning "Nexus". Quick Poll. You've been given a bag of popcorn and a large Coke, and someone's shoved you into the middle of a multiplex where the following films are showing. In front of which screen will you be found happily munching? 1) "Captain Planet and the Planeteers: The Environment Needs You!" (Double-billed with re-runs of ABC's animated "Free Willy") 2) "The Smurfs: Gargamel won't sell me CBS!" 3) "The Jetsons Meet the Smurfs in 3D" 4) "The Flintstones: Fred 'n' Barney's Rap Vacation" 5) "SwatKats: The Radical Movie!" (Okay, so we're biased. 'Sides, those damn 3D glasses never *did* work properly anyway...) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 16:53:14 1996 Date: Mon, 01 Apr 1996 16:20:41 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-085.43] Message-Id: <096.04926903.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Concerning using Lopine in your katstuff Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Since the submission of "Children of the Stone" to the rat site, I've recieved a number of letters from SWAT Kat fanfic authors, wondering if they could use the language and culture Lopine in their fanfic stories. My plain, bottom-line answer is NO, but there's a lot behind that. As most of you know, (or have figured out along the way) Lopine is taken from the religion Lapine used in Richard Adam's "Watership Down" novel. If you haven't read it, I suggest you do. Nothing about SKs, but it happens to be a very good book by itself. I created Lopine and the Lopineneans back in 1990. Lopine is a culture, according to foklore, that sprouted from Lapine and has spread throughout many species and dimensions. Father Time (a.k.a. Frith, Frith-rah) is the ruler of the cartoon universe. Lopine is not a religion; it is a culture, or a way of life. Not all Lopineneans belief Frith (the sun) is directly father time. Not all worship him as the Lapine rabbits in "Watership Down" did. In fact, a lot of Lopineneans have their own religion. I wrote a series of seaQuest DSV stories called "The Chomzon Chronicles" concerning the character Lucas Wolenczak and a species of bird-like creatures called chomzons who are, not surprisingly, Lopinenean. Because I have all intents to possibly publish this story, whether in fanzine or novel form, the term "Lopine" is technically a trademark. Lopine is MY invention. It may sound neat, and you may want to use it, but there's too much into it and too much stories not concerning the kats that I've used it in to just say, "Go ahead and do whatever you want with it." I worry a lot about the portrayal of Lopine. This, too me, is the equivelant of the Tremblay brothers reading one script of SWAT Kats to Davis Doi, then handing him the rights and saying, "Go ahead and do whatever you want with it." Any creator wants their creations to be potrayed correctly. I don't fault anyone for asking. I appreciate your interest. But sorry. As for the people (well, one person) who has approached me and said, "Can I use 'Watership Down' (WD) characters in my story?" I can't stop you from that. I'm not Richard Adams. But if you got the idea to do it from my using Lapine into Lopine first, think it through first. Thank you for your time. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 17:51:02 1996 From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: "'Kats list'" Subject: RE: Popularize SWAT Kats artwork! Date: Sun, 17 Mar 96 14:38:00 PST Message-ID: <31607FA4@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 19 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Kevin wrote: typically the kind that's put on envelopes. Magazines such as Wizard and Hero receive so many submissions that they can afford to be extremely choosy and only print the best of the best original artwork. Sending art to them can be risky since the likelihood of it being printed is so small. But Gaming There's a small problem with this.. It's called copyright infringement. It may be "allright" (read: borderline) to create artwork of someone else's characters for your own personal enjoyment & freely give it to your friends to view. However, drawing the characters & having the pictures published, is most definately a violation of law. mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us mweb@mich.com http://www.mich.com/~mweb From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 18:16:21 1996 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 16:41:37 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199604012241.QAA24727@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Ted's Excellent Speaking Engagement X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >ON HOW TO BEAT THE COMPETITION: "I'm only 56. Rupert Murdoch >(64) and Sumner Redstone (71) are the two guys in this business richer than I am. >But if the actuarial tables are right, *I'll* be the richest guy in the business in >another ten years." Yeah, and *I'll* be the richest gal in about twenty. >ON HIS FUTURE: "I've got a pocketful of big plans. But I'm not going to >show my hand. I mean, you didn't see Eisenhower faxing Hitler the plans >for the invasion of Europe." What? Is this guy for real? >ON GLOBAL EXPANSION: "We have our entertainment networks >everywhere but Africa. And we're talking about going into Africa with >'Tom and Jerry' because Africans like cartoons too. Trouble is, most >of them don't have television sets or electricity." 'scuse me, sir, but how could they like s . . . oh, forget it. There's nothing I could say here without insulting someone's intelligence. >ON BEAVIS AND BUTT-HEAD: "We have more cartoons than anybody: >'The Flintstones', 'The Jetsons', 'The Smurfs', 'Scooby-Doo'. They're nonviolent. We >don't have to worry that we're encouraging kids to kill each other -- like >*SOME* of the other cartoon programs do." I'm sorry sir. I've never seen Beavis and Butt-head. And anyway, some of those cartoons of yours are so boring, maybe they'll try and kill themselves just to have something to do. (THat probably doesn't sound right . . .) >ON THE CLASSICS: "..[Turner Broadcasting's] closing in on 4,000 >motion pictures. That's the good news. The bad news is 2,000 of them >are in black and white. But that's not a problem because we >colorized the best 100 of them." Well, 4,001 won't kill ya. Make SWAT Kats into a movie!!!!!!!! ________________________END QUOTED MATERIAL______________ For *you.* >I especially adore that "Beavis and Butt-Head" paragraph. Guess nobody told >him that Turner division "New Line" released the TMNT movies and "Mortal >Kombat", huh? Not to mention optioning "Nexus". Ahhhhhh, maybe he's already senile. Or maybe it Als-whatever, where you gradually lose your memory. It can happen to people under sixty. >Quick Poll. You've been given a bag of popcorn and a large Coke, and >someone's shoved you into the middle of a multiplex where the following >films are showing. In front of which screen will you be found happily munching? Oh, this should be easy . . . >1) "Captain Planet and the Planeteers: The Environment Needs You!" > (Double-billed with re-runs of ABC's animated "Free Willy") BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good one. Yeah right. >2) "The Smurfs: Gargamel won't sell me CBS!" And lemme guess: Ted plays the smurfs, whoever's in charge of CBS is Gargamel? (And whoever the guy is, good for him! I'd hate to see Turner get his fat little paws on *another* TV station.) >3) "The Jetsons Meet the Smurfs in 3D" Ewwwww. I'm gonna be SICK!!! >4) "The Flintstones: Fred 'n' Barney's Rap Vacation" I hate the Flintstones. I'm not too fond of rap. End of story. >5) "SwatKats: The Radical Movie!" YEAH!YEAH!YEAH!YEAH!YEAH!YEAH!YEAH!YEAH!YEAH!YEAH!YEAH!YEAH!YEAH!YEAH!YEAH!Y EAH!YEAH!YEAH!YEAH!YEAH!YEAH!YEAH!YEAH!YEAH!YEAH!YEAH!YEAH! (answer your question? ) >(Okay, so we're biased. 'Sides, those damn 3D glasses never *did* work > properly anyway...) I *kn*ow . . . Ciao! Terra Chang: writer and poet SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 19:34:47 1996 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604020017.AA29566@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: How does Katkind measured their time? To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 18:17:09 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at Apr 1, 96 02:37:09 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1163 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Their moon seem to be bigger than ours, and don't tell me again that is only o ptical ilusion. Not an optical illusion, but a "camera zoom". Surely you've seen the sun or moon look huge in a live action movie? It's the same thing in the series, only a BG artist painted and drew the scene instead of filming it. Until you factor out that possibility, I don't think you can be certain of the moon's differing size. I say that their moon, in keeping with the other earth like similarities is very close to the size of our own. > > Well, they would have constellations based on Kat imagery; The big > >and little (Milk) Saucers instead of Dippers, for instance. > > Hmmm, one thing for sure, the Milky Way will still remain the same. Right you are! Can't beleive I missed that one. > Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 19:35:23 1996 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604020020.AA86334@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: More Merchandise To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 18:20:03 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at Apr 1, 96 02:36:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 909 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > > There are to more I just remembered: To nitpick myself, that's "2" and I didn't remember one, but saw it listed in another post. > > A SWAT Kats fighting game with all the characters. > > Hmmm, just like Street Fighters? Sure, but maybe closer to the TMNT fighting game. > OK, here's what I want to see: > > A battle chess like SWAT Kats chess game. > An interactive SWAT Kats encylopedia. > A SWAT Kats adventure game. > A Rebel Assault like SWAT Kats game. Oh, Yes! More, More! I gotta get that list organized. > Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 19:51:43 1996 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604020030.AA109232@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Popularize SWAT Kats artwork! To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 18:30:17 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <31607FA4@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> from "Matthew O. Weber" at Mar 17, 96 02:38:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1103 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > There's a small problem with this.. It's called copyright infringement. > It may be "allright" (read: borderline) to create artwork of someone > else's characters for your own personal enjoyment & freely give it to > your friends to view. However, drawing the characters & having the > pictures published, is most definately a violation of law. > mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us Comic book magazines, Comic books (sometimes), and Gaming magazines get reader artwork about virtually everything and it's printed just fine. I don't know the intricate details of how they get the rights, but they do. The live action SWAT Kats as they appeared at comic cons appeared in Wizard (See the 2 scans I made at http://rat.org/pub/kats/images/real-life ) Reader artwork would make it just fine, I'm sure. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 20:54:37 1996 Received: by fox.ksu.ksu.edu (8.6.12/1.34) id TAA12647; Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:35:39 -0600 Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 19:35:36 -0600 (CST) From: Jason M Platter To: kats@bort.mv.net cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Popularize SWAT Kats artwork! In-Reply-To: <9604020030.AA109232@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net please drop me from the list! Thanks Jason From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 23:52:23 1996 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604020431.AA116144@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Deadly Budget? 700K for a katsep? To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Mon, 1 Apr 1996 22:31:21 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <199604011529.HAA09374@unix.infoserve.net> from "chance" at Apr 1, 96 07:29:53 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2394 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >When did he make that comment, BTW? And do you know what episode it may have > > He made the comment on rec.arts.animation around, oh, October last year, > and in response to a post of Mark Evanier's talking about "Mighty Orbots > being the most expensive series ever made". Evanier and Potamkin are > fast friends. Again, I don't even know if he was talking about the 'Kats, but Oh, *that* thread. I'm the one who started it (Brag, Brag.) I thought you meant a more recent one since I haven't been reading rec.arts.animation too thoroughly lately. I'll have to dig up that thread, assuming I went to the effort of forwarding myself a copy which I usually do. (When I'm reading, that is.) > when I suggested "The Deadly Pyramid" as the likely culprit, the suggestion > was neither acknowledged nor denied. Probably the e-mail equivalent of > "no comment". I'd bet the budget was creeping up and up since the first > season, and was a bit out of control for elements of the second. That's > just a guess. I'm glad it might not have been that particular one. It's a real trip and I don't want any type of guilty conscious over enjoying it. > market, and as a result is a *fine* film. Disney showed death in the form of > Bambi, Tod's mother, Gaston and Mufasa, but "Balto" depicted it as > coffins being readied for use; IMO *far* more powerful. Kats has a lot of I have just written to somebody else *extensively* describing my feelings on a similar manner, that's why I haven't written more for the list tonight. Sorry. I'll make it up, I promise! > >> workings of the Turner org called "Two Stupid Producers" which evidently > > > I don't suppose you could have it or could post it, could you? > > Well, I could....but then I'd have to kill you. No, seriously -- I'd love to > We all have a sense of humour, but Tedco's is occasionally a bit > underdeveloped. Hey, tell us something we *don't* know! (Now where have I heard this before?) Oh, geez, this is getting off topic again. My aplogies. Uh, SWAT Kats are cool! There, all better now. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 1 23:56:19 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 11:36:12 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Big moon. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Their moon seem to be bigger than ours, and don't tell me again that is only >>optical ilusion. > > Not an optical illusion, but a "camera zoom". Surely you've seen the sun >or moon look huge in a live action movie? Yeah, I saw that too, but if they zoom in, the human and other stuff get big too. But I saw kats and other stuff is small compare to the moon. >It's the same thing in the series, >only a BG artist painted and drew the scene instead of filming it. Until you >factor out that possibility, I don't think you can be certain of the moon's >differing size. I say that their moon, in keeping with the other earth like >similarities is very close to the size of our own. Is either that or the distances between their moon and the kat planet is a lot closer than 380.000 km. >> Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id > >Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 02:22:27 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 14:12:38 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: 9401 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >You win on your second guess! (pick up your cookie at the door). "93" >is the year, "01" is the ep in sequence. "9402" is the code for "Mutation City", >as it started the second season. Brownie points for guessing what "9401" was. "S.K.I.Q."? BTW, why is that Lance use those numbers anyway? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 07:21:16 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 19:12:57 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: The truth is out there. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net How many SWAT Kats fan are there on planet Earth? And how many kats on MegaKat city? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 07:24:35 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 19:12:54 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Cancelation reason... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net What make the SWAT Kats got canceled anyway? We should really found out if we gonna bring them back. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 09:57:07 1996 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 09:54:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199604021454.JAA05515@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: peej@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Peejster Subject: Re: The truth is out there. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 07:12 PM 4/2/96 +0700, you wrote: >How many SWAT Kats fan are there on planet Earth? > >And how many kats on MegaKat city? > > > You mean by "SWAT KATS" fans of the show? If so, count me in. Peej From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 10:12:12 1996 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 09:55:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199604021455.JAA05522@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: peej@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Peejster Subject: Re: The truth is out there. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 07:12 PM 4/2/96 +0700, you wrote: >How many SWAT Kats fan are there on planet Earth? > >And how many kats on MegaKat city? > > > Sorry, Edo, just read the question, sorry about that. I am a Swat Kat fan. Duh!! Peej From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 13:45:48 1996 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 96 13:29:55 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: SWAT Kats LOUD Message-ID: <9604021329.aa00996@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Tremblays told the Turn(er)coats that they could do a theatrical "Kats" for >about 3 million (Glenn Leopold was even co-developing the story), but >Turner shot it down as "too expensive". They're spending more than this just _promoting_ the new, but as tireasome as the old, Jonny Quest. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 13:55:42 1996 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 96 13:41:04 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: The year is 1996, the name of the place is... The Kats mailing list. Message-ID: <9604021341.aa01029@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >chance wrote: >>Since Kats have Christmas (it's true! "Night of the Dark Kat"), then I think >>you can safely use the same date conventions as in our world. > >Yeah, but it's the numbers that we will never know. > >BTW, is the Kats definition of Christmas is the same as some definition of Christmas in our world? Which one? The "birth of Christ" Christmas, or the "shopping and Santa" Christmas? Cynically, Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 13:57:13 1996 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 96 13:34:25 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: SWAT Kats LOUD Message-ID: <9604021334.aa01011@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Funny how Turner had no problem pumping 35 million into both The >Pagemaster and Swan Princess (Which both bombed in theaters.) The Pagemaster was Turner's effort, and IMHO it shows. The Swan Princess was from Rich Animation, and distributed by someone other than Turner. Turner got the video distribution rights. Unfortunately, in that the clueless SOBs put out a pan & scan LD. Ed Still P.O.ed about that. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 14:11:16 1996 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 96 13:46:14 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Mutilor + Video games Message-ID: <9604021346.aa01044@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>I'm not a Mortal Kombat fan, and not too fond of it either (I never like >>>fighting games.). But a SWAT Kats 2D fighting game could be fun. >> >>I am, sorta. (And don't give me a "Terra, you're only twelve years old, that >>stuff's too violent for you," speech. > >No, I won't. > >>I don't like the blood-n-guts stuff, > >Neither do I, I much prefer explosion and missile. What do you think happens when the shock wave from the explosion or the fragments from the missile, ahem, _intersect_ with a vehicle and the occupant thereof? What do you think happens to the Kat inside when an Enforcer chopper goes down without anyone getting out? Talk about desensitized. Sheesh! Ed 1/2 :) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 16:24:10 1996 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 96 16:05:43 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: How were the Enforcers formed? Message-ID: <9604021605.aa01180@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > As it was once discussed here before, the Enforcers are kind of like a >combination of the military and police created for the purpose of defending the >megalopolis. But when and how were they formed? Has MegaKats City always been >under the wrath of monsters and supervillians, and if so does that mean that >some version of the Enforcers has always existed, or did the military and >police merge at some point in history? Anybody construct some sort of >SK's timeline, and if so what does the author have to say on this? I betcha >that Megalith City's guards and soldiers were technically the first Enforcers. Since MegaKat City seems to be a city that ends up a city-state in the ancient Greek or medieval Italian sense, I'd say the Enforcers evolved from the original guards. I wouldn't say soldiers, as the guards have only a defensive/protective role, and cannot really act in an offensive manner. Another POV is that they're originally a police department that had to drastically evolve to face the increased threat from the monsters and supervillains. Look at any major police force today. In addition to the many beat cops in their patrol cars, armed with pistols and perhaps shotguns, all big cities will have a SWAT-type unit, with the capabilities of an infantry unit sans heavy weapons, a number of armored vehicles, and a substantial number of helicopters. Most have mounted police for crowd control, and coastal/river cities have water units. And this is just to face conventional human adversaries. Step up the threat, and you can easily envision more heavy weapons and armored vehicles, arming the helicopters (remember "Blue Thunder"?), and so on. Not far-fetched at all. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 17:20:02 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 04:36:41 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Crushed Enforcer. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >What do you think happens when the shock wave from the explosion or >the fragments from the missile, ahem, _intersect_ with a vehicle and >the occupant thereof? What do you think happens to the Kat inside >when an Enforcer chopper goes down without anyone getting out? Talk >about desensitized. Sheesh! I don't know what happen next, did they ever show on what happen to the Enforcer next? >Ed >1/2 :) ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 17:22:19 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 04:37:02 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: The definition of Christmas. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Is the Kats definition of Christmas is the same as some definition of Christmas in our world? > >Which one? The "birth of Christ" Christmas, or the "shopping and >Santa" Christmas? That's what we don't know on what tree Hard Drive was refering to. For all we know, a Christmas tree is probably just another breed of tree in MegaKat. >Cynically, > >Ed ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 18:46:06 1996 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:31:53 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199604022331.SAA06644@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: peej@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Peejster Subject: Re: The definition of Christmas. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 04:37 AM 4/3/96 +0700, you wrote: >>>Is the Kats definition of Christmas is the same as some definition of Christmas in our world? >> >>Which one? The "birth of Christ" Christmas, or the "shopping and >>Santa" Christmas? > >That's what we don't know on what tree Hard Drive was refering to. For all we know, a Christmas tree is probably just another breed of tree in MegaKat. > >>Cynically, >> >>Ed > >------------------------------------- >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >"A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." > > > To me. it's Christ's birth. Peej From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 19:26:38 1996 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 96 19:15:40 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: The definition of Christmas. Message-ID: <9604021915.aa01292@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >At 04:37 AM 4/3/96 +0700, you wrote: >>>>Is the Kats definition of Christmas is the same as some definition of >Christmas in our world? >>> >>>Which one? The "birth of Christ" Christmas, or the "shopping and >>>Santa" Christmas? >> >>That's what we don't know on what tree Hard Drive was refering to. For all >we know, a Christmas tree is probably just another breed of tree in MegaKat. >> >To me. it's Christ's birth. You and me both, Peej. My comment was directed at whoever asked about Christmas in the Kat world, whether it was the original "Christian" Christmas (and yes I know of its pagan roots), or the current "secular" Christmas which occurs at the same time. Now to answer my question: I don't seem to recall any mention of Kat religion, but IMHO it's more likely that a secular holiday does exist, as this is seen in a number of hy00man cultures, while it's unlikely a religion _that_ similar to Christianity should arise. OTOH, there was that ST:TOS episode with the "Romans" and what eventually turned out to be "Christians". Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 19:49:56 1996 From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: "'Kats list'" Subject: RE: Merchandise We'd Like to See: Introduction Date: Tue, 02 Apr 96 17:23:00 PST Message-ID: <3161D3E5@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 8 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >All this discussion about SWAT Kats music and comics >has made me think of an old idea, a series of threads >where we not only name the items of merchandise that >we'd like to see, but go into detail about them. Here's >some items, some of which have been named before: Keep an eye open for some scans coming to a site near you! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 21:06:16 1996 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604030144.AA34728@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Big moon? To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 19:44:16 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: from "Edo Andromedo" at Apr 2, 96 11:36:12 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1449 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > > Not an optical illusion, but a "camera zoom". Surely you've seen the sun > >or moon look huge in a live action movie? > > Yeah, I saw that too, but if they zoom in, the human and other stuff get big t oo. But I saw kats and other stuff is small compare to the moon. That's irrelevent if the "camera" is located far away. Once again, the same thing is done in live action films rather frequently for effect. The camera is so far away that the characters appear relatively unzoomed (technically all shots are zooms, it's just a matter of how much.) while the moon or sun appears huge. > >differing size. I say that their moon, in keeping with the other earth like > >similarities is very close to the size of our own. > > Is either that or the distances between their moon and the kat planet is a lot closer than 380.000 km. Another possibility, but I just don't see any real need for exotic explanations (But hey, believe what you like!) I'm gonna stick with the idea of their moon being about the same size and distance as ours. Works better for me personally. > Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 21:19:51 1996 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:28:15 -0800 Message-Id: <199604030228.SAA21944@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Cancelation reason... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >What make the SWAT Kats got canceled anyway? We should really found out if we gonna bring them back. We've had a pack of reasons (heck, TCN has had a pack of reasons), but nothing definitive. Even the Tremblay bros. didn't get anything resembling satisfactory, and the 'published' reasons through the Turner spin-doctors are little save bad theater (just ask Gary Owens about his dismissal - er, sorry, "non-renewal of contract due to undesirable geography"). Christian got the first 300 pieces of our fan-mail (sent via download off newsgroups and this list), and proceeded to call Seibert up whenever possible to say "See? People *do* like the show!". Yep, they like it....even at 4:30 am Pacific they liked it. A year after the cancellation they *still* like it. Any Turner rep care to give the TCN e-mail handlers a call to see how much kat questions they field? "Bad ratings" huh....pull the other one. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 2 21:53:20 1996 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 1996 18:52:18 -0800 Message-Id: <199604030252.SAA23088@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: 9401 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>You win on your second guess! (pick up your cookie at the door). "93" >>is the year, "01" is the ep in sequence. "9402" is the code for "Mutation City", >>as it started the second season. Brownie points for guessing what "9401" was. > >"S.K.I.Q."? > >BTW, why is that Lance use those numbers anyway? Lance didn't except by way of convention, as all the scripts bear that kind of legend irrespective of whether Leopold, Falk, or someone like Saraceni wrote them. The full form is actually along the lines of "0182-9313" ("Katastrophe"), but I couldn't tell you what the "0182" stands for aside from project number. After the script made it through final revision, they make up a bunch of "show packs" with all the model sheets for the various characters and props unique to that episode (see rat.org's "dockat.gif" for illustration), then to 'board, then to animation, then to TV -- all bearing this number for reference and archive purposes. The "Katseye News Special Report/SKIQ" ep that TCN can't find would wind up being H-B no. "0182-9401" (man, now we're getting almost as anal as alt.tv.animaniacs!) Chances are that H-B lost it after they were ordered to send all their "SwatKats" materials to Turner Home Video (or so I'm told). _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 3 02:26:14 1996 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 02:20:54 -0500 (EST) From: Buster Bunny To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: SWAT Kats LOUD In-Reply-To: <9603251750.AA42594@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, Kevin L. Knoles wrote: > If you watch SWAT Kats on a small mono TV, then you are missing out on a > the true listening experience. I don't own any kind of spectacular system > here myself (a 13 mono TV and recently broken mono VCR are about it for me.), > but back at home we have a stereo VCR hooked up to an amp and some pretty big > speakers. When I'm home I put my videos, especially the prerecordeds in, set > the base a couple notches higher, and crank it up. SWAT Kats, dare I say more > than any other animated series, can utilize big sound to its fullest extent. I have to agree with Kevin on this one, SWAT Kats has a radical sound track, and I always end up listening to it a bit louder than other tv shows... If you haven't tried this, you should. Now if only my cheap cable system would give me TCN (which I pay extra for) in stereo... -Buster Bunny ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit Buster Bunny's FTP site! ftp://ftp.fdt.net/pub/users/b/buster Home of the official Chris Brown distirbution site! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 3 10:30:32 1996 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 07:32:41 -0800 Message-Id: <199604031532.HAA20633@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats LOUD Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Buster Bunny wrote: >I have to agree with Kevin on this one, SWAT Kats has a radical sound track, >and I always end up listening to it a bit louder than other tv shows... >If you haven't tried this, you should. Now if only my cheap cable system >would give me TCN (which I pay extra for) in stereo... Seems a lot of people get mono TCN, huh? Anyway, after a *really* long search awhile back, I found my first Turner Home Video Kats tape (silly me, it was right beside the Holy Grail all along!), I played it on my 20 yr. old colour TV and was impressed even by the increase of sound quality on *that* in comparison to the broadcast eps. Thinking it might be fun to hear it in stereo, I plugged the Hi-Fi VHS into the stereo feed and voila....it postively *glistened*. My neighbours hate me now, but at one or two points above "comfortable", watching the program becomes less of a simple diversion and more like an *experience*. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 3 11:25:29 1996 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604031621.AA35672@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: How were the Enforcers formed? To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 10:21:25 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9604021605.aa01180@octavius.pica.army.mil> from "Ed Rudnicki" at Apr 2, 96 04:05:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1575 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Since MegaKat City seems to be a city that ends up a city-state in > the ancient Greek or medieval Italian sense, I'd say the Enforcers > evolved from the original guards. I wouldn't say soldiers, as the A nice idea but... > Another POV is that they're originally a police department that had > to drastically evolve to face the increased threat from the monsters > and supervillains. Look at any major police force today. In addition > adversaries. Step up the threat, and you can easily envision more > heavy weapons and armored vehicles, arming the helicopters (remember > "Blue Thunder"?), and so on. I prefer this one instead. I'm going to make this the official continuity in my mind since it seems so plausible. Anybody have any other suggestion? I'd love to hear them. > Ed A few other things I have to wonder about, if the Enforcers existed before the Megawar(s), then what role did they have in the war(s)? *Is* there a miltary in the Kat nation that MegaKat city resides in besides the Enforcers, and if so, how closely is it linked to them? And if the Enforcers still do function as regular police (The MKPD?), then how have they organized things to keep the regular patrol Kats seperate from the tank and jet pilots and infantrykats? |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 3 13:16:33 1996 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 96 12:58:16 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: How were the Enforcers formed? Message-ID: <9604031258.aa01700@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > A few other things I have to wonder about, if the Enforcers existed before >the Megawar(s), then what role did they have in the war(s)? *Is* there a >miltary in the Kat nation that MegaKat city resides in besides the Enforcers, >and if so, how closely is it linked to them? If the MegaWars were as bad as our world wars, and if the Kats found a way to lasting piece, something us hy00mans have yet to achieve, they may have disbanded their military, and allowed the police (now Enforcers) an expanded role to take up the slack. This is a common theme in a lot of SF. Question: Who "owned" the aircraft carrier in "Ghost Pilot"? Was it "owned" by the Enforcers, or another entity? This may give us the answer to whether the Kats have true armed forces or not. > And if the Enforcers still do function as regular police (The MKPD?), then >how have they organized things to keep the regular patrol Kats seperate from the >tank and jet pilots and infantrykats? The same way it's done now: the police boat crews and helo pilots are specifically assigned to their platforms; the same would be true of Kat pilots and vehicle crews. The "infantrykats", OTOH, may just be patrol Kats with added equipment, in the same way that a lot of smaller SWAT teams are comprised of regular cops who carry their SWAT gear with them in their cars, and receive special training. That is, they go about their regular beats, but when the stuff hits the fan they suit up, arm up, and put that extra training to use. This gives the advantage of numbers, compared to a dedicated SWAT unit. In the case of the Kats there may be a core or cadre of specialists, with the ranks filled out by regular patrol kats, as above. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 3 17:58:57 1996 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 96 17:39:54 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: SWAT Kats LOUD Message-ID: <9604031739.aa02020@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> Funny how Turner had no problem pumping 35 million into both The >>Pagemaster and Swan Princess (Which both bombed in theaters.) > >At the moment they've got "Cats Don't Dance" on the launchpad, which may >end up being halfway decent. "Pagemaster" was a shambles from the word "go", >and "Swan Princess" was critically acclaimed in many quarters but almost >universally shunned by the viewers (though that's beginning to change in Methinks the re-release of The Lion King on the same day had a lot to do with this :) And the Turner animated title is "Cats Can't Dance" I think. Anyhow, I saw a conceptual painting from it, and it looks satisfyingly furry. >the Blockbuster environment). Turner Home Video was "disappointed" at >orders for the 'SwatKats Home Videos', but as most of you have found >out from your retailer during your search for them, everyone replies to >your question with "Whatsa Swatkat?". No promotion. No sales. 3 mil Well there were ads on the various Turner cable stations. Even CNN. I guess the fool assumed that only his stations are worth watching. >for a 'Kats' movie would be well spent, and if accompanied by a *competent* >promotion, would certainly cause quite a stir. Many are clamouring now for >anime-level movies in wide release, and you couldn't do better than a Kats >flick - provided that the compulsion to "dumb it down" for the 6-11 >"Princess and Pony" set is fought at every turn. Major fear here. One of the drivers for new feature animation, even mediocre efforts like The Pagemaster and The Princess and the Goblin, is the seemingly insatiable demand for inoffensive kidvid. A Kats film that we'd enjoy would not sell to this market, which is absolutely staggering in size. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 3 18:57:34 1996 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 18:58:36 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Swat Kats Comics In-Reply-To: <199604010516.VAA20178@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I think the 1st one I'll approch will be "T-Bone's Stakes", since I am currently working on the Pastmaster and Dr.Viper. (Need to get working on Callie/Callista!) A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 3 19:01:25 1996 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 18:53:45 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Swat Kats Comics In-Reply-To: <199604010427.UAA17463@unix.infoserve.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sun, 31 Mar, 1996, chance wrote: > For an AFG, I was going to post something to rec.arts.animation outlining > Turner's plans for a "Captain Planet"/"SwatKats" crossover made-for-TCN > movie, but I figured I'd be eaten alive. I can't even begin to imagine a plot... > though I suppose that hasn't stopped the vast majority of the CP eps > from being made. > > "I'm a marketeer... > You can be one too... > Bringing back 'Kats... > is the thing to do!" > I have a plot, umm. maybe it could be a more detailed "Katastrophe, with Mutilor, the Pastmaster, Ci-Kat-As, and all there past villians, including zed, team up. It'd be kinda nifty, though the title of the movie may be: "The End Of The SWAT Kats" :( A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 3 19:27:59 1996 id AA24875; Wed, 3 Apr 1996 19:01:25 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 19:01:24 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Games In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >An interactive SWAT Kats encyclopedia Hmm. Maybe I can create one in Window's Write? I know you can imbed pictures, video, sound, etc. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 3 19:30:19 1996 From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: "'Kats list'" Subject: RE: SWAT Kats LOUD Date: Wed, 03 Apr 96 04:17:00 PST Message-ID: <31633A54@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 26 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>the Blockbuster environment). Turner Home Video was "disappointed" at >>orders for the 'SwatKats Home Videos', but as most of you have found >>out from your retailer during your search for them, everyone replies to >>your question with "Whatsa Swatkat?". No promotion. No sales. 3 mil >Well there were ads on the various Turner cable stations. Even CNN. >I guess the fool assumed that only his stations are worth watching. There were? I only recall seeing it once on TCN. This is not the way to advertise & promote something you want to make money with. Seems that the suits at TedCo need to go back to school for Marketing 101. Even the "here's what kids think about the Swat Kats" had disappeared after a short time while the show was still airing on TBS. I really wonder how many calls TCS got from the "call us & tell us what you think"... From the promos on the beginning of the videotapes, you'd think there were a lot of them. And you'll also note that there were no fans listed older than 12 (or something). Seems to me that there are probably just as many (if not more) fans that are twice that age. TPTB probably think that anyone past the age of 13 switches over to watch CNN all day. Go fig.. mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us mweb@mich.com http://www.mich.com/~mweb From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 3 19:30:47 1996 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 19:08:05 -0500 (EST) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: The definition of Christmas. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net hmm. New FanFic coming on for someone to write! It's Christmas time in MK city, and HD zips from tree to tree and robs houses?!?!?!? A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 3 19:57:50 1996 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 19:51:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199604040051.TAA09879@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: peej@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 1 (Highest) To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Peejster Subject: Re: The definition of Christmas. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 07:08 PM 4/3/96 -0500, you wrote: >hmm. New FanFic coming on for someone to write! It's Christmas time in MK >city, and HD zips from tree to tree and robs houses?!?!?!? > >A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please >ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! >"Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club >SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS > > And it can be written andd drawn in the style of the late Dr. Seuss Give the Grinch a run for his money. I wonder where green eggs and ham fit in. The Peejster From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 3 20:29:32 1996 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 20:14:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199604040114.UAA09916@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@underdog.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: Games Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 07:01 PM 4/3/96 -0500, you wrote: >>An interactive SWAT Kats encyclopedia > >Hmm. Maybe I can create one in Window's Write? I know you can imbed >pictures, video, sound, etc. Why not do it in HTML? You can embed everything in it too, and it's portable to non-Windows machines, and you could post it on the web that way. Max From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 3 20:32:19 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 08:18:48 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: The definition of Christmas. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >hmm. New FanFic coming on for someone to write! It's Christmas time in MK >city, and HD zips from tree to tree and robs houses?!?!?!? Well, I was writing a fanfic about a New Year in MegaKat city. >A.J. Freda >ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 3 20:56:48 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 08:18:44 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats encyclopedia Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>An interactive SWAT Kats encyclopedia > >Hmm. Maybe I can create one in Window's Write? I know you can imbed >pictures, video, sound, etc. Well, if somebody here got an access to Macromedia Director, I think that would be much better. But Microsoft Write is fine with me, is it readable with Microsoft Word 5.1? BTW, I was refering an interactive encyclopedia ala Star Trek TNG Technical Manual. >A.J. Freda >ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 3 21:33:22 1996 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 21:15:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <199604040215.VAA10097@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: peej@mail.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Peejster Subject: Re: Games Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >Why not do it in HTML? You can embed everything in it too, and it's portable >to non-Windows machines, and you could post it on the web that way. > > Max > > > > > > > That sounds like a good idea, Maxie. When do you want to start? Any other idea, Kats? Peejster From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 3 21:55:12 1996 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604040244.AA59210@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: SWAT Kats LOUD To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 20:44:28 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9604031739.aa02020@octavius.pica.army.mil> from "Ed Rudnicki" at Apr 3, 96 05:39:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1430 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >anime-level movies in wide release, and you couldn't do better than a Kats > >flick - provided that the compulsion to "dumb it down" for the 6-11 > >"Princess and Pony" set is fought at every turn. > > Major fear here. One of the drivers for new feature animation, even > mediocre efforts like The Pagemaster and The Princess and the > Goblin, is the seemingly insatiable demand for inoffensive kidvid. A > Kats film that we'd enjoy would not sell to this market, which is > absolutely staggering in size. Who says it has too sell to *that* market? There's an entire generation of kids growing up and being exposed to action adventure stuff that blows away what we saw in the eighties, especially anime. With the way animation is growing and changing in America, there has to be a breaking point. SWAT Kats: The Radical Movie would serve the purpose of linking the kids programming and the hard edged action adventure, it could play a *very* important role in the growth and evolution of American animated features. More excerpts from my as yet to be written post. I need to hurry up and write that thing. > Ed |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 3 21:57:06 1996 Date: Wed, 3 Apr 1996 18:32:16 -0800 Message-Id: <199604040232.SAA24644@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats LOUD Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Methinks the re-release of The Lion King on the same day had a lot >to do with this :) And the Turner animated title is "Cats Can't >Dance" I think. Anyhow, I saw a conceptual painting from it, and it >looks satisfyingly furry. Mmm...it's still "Cat's Don't.." on everything I've got, but I guess they could've changed it. If there were a "SwatKats" movie released, I *certainly* hope Mouse doesn't pull any shenanigans like the TLK release - or the extra dose of "Toy Story" hype during the "Balto" run - or the manufactured "coincidence" of having "Oliver and Company" re-released just in time for "All Dogs Go To Heaven Pt. II". 'Course, Mikey Eisner would have to retire, but that's another story. >Well there were ads on the various Turner cable stations. Even CNN. >I guess the fool assumed that only his stations are worth watching. Yeah, there's that promotion, and the fuzzy logic of having trailers for the Kats videos *ON* the Kats videos, but I suppose "fool" adequately covers this as well (not to mention Razor's white nose). >Major fear here. One of the drivers for new feature animation, even >mediocre efforts like The Pagemaster and The Princess and the >Goblin, is the seemingly insatiable demand for inoffensive kidvid. A >Kats film that we'd enjoy would not sell to this market, which is >absolutely staggering in size. That is still *the* market when planning an animated feature release. 'Batman: Mask of the Phantasm" tried for an up-market audience, and likely would've set a better precedent for "older" target features had bloody WB not released it on Christmas Day - dooming it to the "kid" label irrespective of content. What I think producers like Tedco and the rest are slow to grasp is that there are actually *two* major markets for feature animation (just ask any anime fan), one of which stays away from "Pretty Princess" epics in droves. Nobody's convinced the feature people that a more mature audience may be going to these things for reasons other than to be kid-chaperones, and as a result everyone keeps betting on the 'sure-thing'; the audience that will always be there - the littl'uns spending their allowances on cute, flyweight and fuzzy. The first mature-themed anime flick in wide release that doesn't scream "Japanese Culture" with every frame should just *rake* it in. That feature could be Kats - with the mecha appetites of the traditionalists catered to - the furry-fans catered to, and the marketeers with enough stuff to turn into PVC icons for Christmas to keep Jane in Thigh-masters 'till the cows come home. 3 mil doesn't sound like that bad a bet to me. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 3 23:39:28 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 11:33:15 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Swat Kats movies ala ST:TOS movies Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I have a plot, umm. maybe it could be a more detailed "Katastrophe, with >Mutilor, the Pastmaster, Ci-Kat-As, and all there past villians, >including zed, team up. It'd be kinda nifty, though the title of the >movie may be: "The End Of The SWAT Kats" :( Well, if they follow the pattern of Star Trek TOS movies, here's what might happen: SWAT Kats: The Motion Picture Zed is back! and starting to assimilate everything insight, including the junkyard! The coolest part is when Zed assimilate a rocket at MASA space center, and the SWAT Kats have to follow Zed into outerspace. SWAT Kats: The Wrath of MadKat MadKat and the Pastmaster, join forces? Time traveling is involved here. SWAT Kats: The Search for Razor Razor is missing! T-Bone have to look for his partner. A sequel to "The Wrath of MadKat". SWAT Kats: The Flight back to MegaKat. What else? SWAT Kats: The Final Frontier SWAT Kats: The Undiscovered Country Back to the future! >A.J. Freda >ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in space, all alone in the night." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 4 15:13:48 1996 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 96 14:57:24 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: SWAT Kats LOUD Message-ID: <9604041457.aa02668@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>the Blockbuster environment). Turner Home Video was "disappointed" at >>>orders for the 'SwatKats Home Videos', but as most of you have found >>>out from your retailer during your search for them, everyone replies to >>>your question with "Whatsa Swatkat?". No promotion. No sales. 3 mil > >>Well there were ads on the various Turner cable stations. Even CNN. >>I guess the fool assumed that only his stations are worth watching. > >There were? I only recall seeing it once on TCN. This is not the way to >advertise & promote something you want to make money with. Seems that >the suits at TedCo need to go back to school for Marketing 101. I saw it on at least TBS and CNN, and I think TNT. As I posted elsewhere, it just occurred to me that ads on Turner stations are in effect free for TedCo product. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 4 15:40:22 1996 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 96 14:54:51 EST From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: SWAT Kats LOUD Message-ID: <9604041454.aa02649@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Methinks the re-release of The Lion King on the same day had a lot >>to do with this :) And the Turner animated title is "Cats Can't >>Dance" I think. Anyhow, I saw a conceptual painting from it, and it >>looks satisfyingly furry. > >Mmm...it's still "Cat's Don't.." on everything I've got, but I guess they >could've changed it. If there were a "SwatKats" movie released, I >*certainly* hope Mouse doesn't pull any shenanigans like the TLK >release - or the extra dose of "Toy Story" hype during the "Balto" >run - or the manufactured "coincidence" of having "Oliver and Company" >re-released just in time for "All Dogs Go To Heaven Pt. II". 'Course, >Mikey Eisner would have to retire, but that's another story. Now I'm doubting myself about that title. Readers: one of us is definitely right :) Anyhow, you _know_ Disney will do everything possible to counter- release an animated film to try to suppress the opening of someone else's product. What bothers me is that Disney is in effect "wasting" the release of "James and the Giant Peach" tomorrow, as it'll be competing with "Oliver" to some extent as well as "All Dogs..." Mysterious indeed are the ways of the Mouse. >>Well there were ads on the various Turner cable stations. Even CNN. >>I guess the fool assumed that only his stations are worth watching. > >Yeah, there's that promotion, and the fuzzy logic of having trailers for >the Kats videos *ON* the Kats videos, but I suppose "fool" adequately >covers this as well (not to mention Razor's white nose). It just occurred to me that advertising the SK videos only on Turner stations doesn't cost him anything for air time. Still, "fool" applies, as every other purveyor of animated films and/or kidvid will advertise during "competitors'" programming, as witnessed by ads for "Balto" during The Disney Afternoon. I haven't seen any ads for the "Balto" video, but perhaps I haven't been looking. Just two more weeks for the LD! >>Major fear here. One of the drivers for new feature animation, even >>mediocre efforts like The Pagemaster and The Princess and the >>Goblin, is the seemingly insatiable demand for inoffensive kidvid. A >>Kats film that we'd enjoy would not sell to this market, which is >>absolutely staggering in size. > >That is still *the* market when planning an animated feature release. >'Batman: Mask of the Phantasm" tried for an up-market audience, and >likely would've set a better precedent for "older" target features had >bloody WB not released it on Christmas Day - dooming it to the >"kid" label irrespective of content. What I think producers like Tedco and >the rest are slow to grasp is that there are actually *two* major markets >for feature animation (just ask any anime fan), one of which stays away >from "Pretty Princess" epics in droves. Nobody's convinced the feature >people that a more mature audience may be going to these things for >reasons other than to be kid-chaperones, and as a result everyone keeps >betting on the 'sure-thing'; the audience that will always be there - the >littl'uns spending their allowances on cute, flyweight and fuzzy. The first >mature-themed anime flick in wide release that doesn't scream "Japanese >Culture" with every frame should just *rake* it in. That feature could How well did "Heavy Metal" do in its original release? The problem with the "two major markets" is that the one that stays away from "Pretty Princess" epics in droves is an order of magnitude or two smaller than the traditional market. Films that are still accessible to children while offering adults more will _always_ succeed, but a film appealing only to adults is just too risky. Animation costs too much and take too long to make to take that risk, and thanks to Disney and certain others the limited animation that allows anime to be produced at lower costs would not be acceptable. And I wonder about the "general public's" acceptance of a Kats film. Most of us are furries/furfen, and we readily accept a Kats, or other anthro world, as readily as our own. The rest of the world sees the "funny animals" and, apart from perhaps the old WB shorts, dismisses them as purely kiddie material. It's noteworthy that "Cats Can't/Don't Dance" will have this exact same problem; its success or lack thereof may be a good indicator as to how a Kats film might do. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 4 18:00:33 1996 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 16:22:13 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199604042222.QAA18079@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Swat Kats Comics X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I think the 1st one I'll approch will be "T-Bone's Stakes", since I am >currently working on the Pastmaster and Dr.Viper. (Need to get working on >Callie/Callista!) Sounds cool, but remember to ask whoever wrote it. (Wasn't it Simon Leet or something like that?) And also, that is one helluva long story, and even though I personally loved it (just it was too long for my printer to handle. ) it is definetely gonna be more than one issue. (I mean, no offense, after all, I've already said I liked it, but that thing's more than a short story, it's a novella!) You could do what the people at Innovation (sp?) did for the graphic novels of Anne Rice. They made it into a series of 13 comic books and sold them. 'Course, you're gonna let us see them for free . . . RIGHT??? One more thing: I suggest you and the author work it out. 'S almost like a movie, maybe there's something the author wants to change. Lord knows *I* feel that way about some of the things I wrote. Have fun, send it when you're done, and (to quote God-knows-who coined this one) break a leg! (Yeah, yeah, I know it's for showbiz, but oh well!) >A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please >ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! >"Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club >SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS > > Ciao! Terra Chang: writer and poet SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 4 23:04:44 1996 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604050329.AA86970@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Movie Discussion To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 21:29:40 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <9604041454.aa02649@octavius.pica.army.mil> from "Ed Rudnicki" at Apr 4, 96 02:54:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 5250 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Anyhow, you _know_ Disney will do everything possible to counter- > release an animated film to try to suppress the opening of someone > else's product. But I'm not so certain that's all that relevant if the film is action adventure, as would be the case with SK's: TRM > >Yeah, there's that promotion, and the fuzzy logic of having trailers for > >the Kats videos *ON* the Kats videos, but I suppose "fool" adequately > >covers this as well (not to mention Razor's white nose). Actually that's not all that uncommon, ads for other videos in the series on the videos. Ewoks and Droids, Bucky O'Hare, ExoSquad, Gargoyles, just to name a few from my collection. I think it's a rather smart move, actually. > >"kid" label irrespective of content. What I think producers like Tedco and > >the rest are slow to grasp is that there are actually *two* major markets > >mature-themed anime flick in wide release that doesn't scream "Japanese > >Culture" with every frame should just *rake* it in. That feature could I'm not so certain the film has to seem non-Japanese, Akira is very Japanese and it could be a smash if they gave it the respect it deserves (A 1500 theater mainstream release with standard action adventure film promotion.) > How well did "Heavy Metal" do in its original release? According to Maltin, it had good returns at first, and then quickly dwindled. (I can check old Variety issues on microfilm if anyone's intensely interested. I sorta have been meaning to do it for ahwile.) He then made some type of speculation about such films not being a very profitable option. I'll argue the point in a sec. > The problem with the "two major markets" is that the one that stays > away from "Pretty Princess" epics in droves is an order of magnitude > or two smaller than the traditional market. Films that are still As demonstrated by the release of...of...of What?? There just haven't been any big budget animated action adventure films in (mainstream, wide release) American theaters. > accessible to children while offering adults more will _always_ > succeed, but a film appealing only to adults is just too risky. And SK's: TRM would bridge the gap, open their eyes. Timmy drags Mom and Dad along to see it, and they are all *Blown*Away* by it. > Animation costs too much and take too long to make to take that > risk, and thanks to Disney and certain others the limited animation > that allows anime to be produced at lower costs would not be > acceptable. I say again, Akira was made for about ten million. It was made in 2 1/2 years and looks like a 40 million dollar production. That's not any kind of risk for a studio, especially with them pumping 175 million into Waterworld and 100 million into that pirate movie that's so forgettable I can't recall the name of. It comes down to movie producers and their biases and ignorance, not financial risk. > And I wonder about the "general public's" acceptance of a Kats film. Look at how many people might enjoy Akira if they saw it. Do something on the same scale or greater with Kats and suddenly they reject it? You don't know until you know. > "Cats Can't/Don't Dance" will have this exact same problem; its > success or lack thereof may be a good indicator as to how a Kats > film might do. This all comes down to what Maltin was saying, that a certain type of film won't may not work based on the success or lack thereof of one film. Do G rated animated musicals not work since The Pebble and the Penguin bombed? Of course not. Will an animated action adventure film bomb because Heavy Metal wasn't a blockbuster? Nope, (and here's where I argue the point.) that was in the early 80's, things have changed and HM wasn't that good of a movie to be honest (Contrast critics' opinions of it with Akira, for instance.) The Last Action Hero bombed. Does that mean that big budget action adventure films starring Arnold Schwarzenegger are doomed to failure? As I envision SK's: TRM, it would be one of the most stunning productions ever created. Kids would flock to the theaters after a major adrenaline rush from the previews, Dad (and hopefully Mom) would be amazed, teenagers would think it's one of the most incredible things they've ever seen, critics would be stunned, and it'd make about 70 million at least. It'd be beautiful So I got a little carried away there in the end. (Like I've kind of said before...) With the way animation is changing, growing, expanding, and evolving in America, within several years you can expect to see some mainstream animated action adventure films with Elfquest and Heavy Metal ][ being the first ones. These films may have some difficulty breaking in at first (A la B:MotP), and a bridge between the two extremes as provided by SK's: TRM could lessen the blow that the dicotomy creates. OK, I'm going to start writing that thing tonight. > Ed |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 4 23:11:01 1996 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604050351.AA50286@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: More about SWAT Kats animation art To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 21:51:16 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1669 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I don't have any info about pricing and availability that you haven't heard already, but I've been meaning to post this for awhile. I've spoken with Marc Melocchi of Hanna-Barbera Animation Art and asked him about SWAT Kats cels. He told me what he could, said he would FedEx me a package (It's some pretty good stuff as was his letter [He suggested I write Glenn Leopold, though not on the matter of aartwork.] though none of the enlcosed materials had anything to do with SWAT Kats cels unfortunately.), and directed me to another guy, who's machine I left a question and my number on. The guy didn't call me back, so I called Marc back up after I recieved his package and asked him a few more questions which he was only too happy to answer and talk about. It turns out that I'm the first person he's talked to who's curious about Kats animation art (And I think he said there are only three art reps total.), and he was unaware of any SK's interest or fandom. So, if you haven't called up the animation art number, please do: 1 - 800 - 577 - 7878 It's an 800 number folks. Take a minute out of your day, call it up and say you're interested in Kats cels, specifying that the Mook artwork, particularly the second season stuff is very important to you. Remember if we don't tell them we're interested, they won't know. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 5 00:33:27 1996 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 1996 21:22:41 -0800 Message-Id: <199604050522.VAA05780@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: More about SWAT Kats animation art Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >art reps total.), and he was unaware of any SK's interest or fandom. So, if >you haven't called up the animation art number, please do: > > 1 - 800 - 577 - 7878 > > It's an 800 number folks. Take a minute out of your day, call it up and >say you're interested in Kats cels, specifying that the Mook artwork, >particularly the second season stuff is very important to you. Remember if we >don't tell them we're interested, they won't know. I'm sure lots of us are "interested", but don't have the bank account to make the interest actionable (one of the reasons I tend to keep my nose out of Galleries). I think they may've shied away from cel sales *this* long because the average 12-year old F-14 fan doesn't have $400.00 bucks burning a hole in his back pocket. Still, if you've got the means - kid or adult - call 'em up. More demand generally means greater availability and lower pricing (unless you're "The Disney Store", then it's negotiable), and all katfans will eventually benefit. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 5 08:32:18 1996 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 08:16:49 -0500 (EST) From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: SWAT Kats animation art, more thereof In-Reply-To: <199604050522.VAA05780@unix.infoserve.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > > 1 - 800 - 577 - 7878 > > It's an 800 number folks. Take a minute out of your day, call it up and > >say you're interested in Kats cels, specifying that the Mook artwork, > >particularly the second season stuff is very important to you. > I think they may've shied away from cel sales *this* long > because the average 12-year old F-14 fan doesn't have $400.00 bucks > burning a hole in his back pocket. However, the average fat old research scientist DOES. I shall ring up the number forthwith. I wonder if they have any Doctor Konway cels. That, I am certain, would look groovy on my wall. A quick note of thanks to those persons of offered, with me, to write letters to the Consulate of Singapore to try to locate Simon Leet. He's been found alive, and none the worse for wear after his ordeal at sea, floating for 39 days on a piece of driftwood in the Sea of Japan. That will teach him to try to fly the Turbokat without proper training. ------- Samuel Conway, Ph.D. Senior Don't Believe Everything You Read Scientist Avid Therapeutics Philadelphia, PA flogistn@netaxs.com From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 5 10:00:36 1996 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 06:31:45 -0800 Message-Id: <199604051431.GAA20650@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats animation art, more thereof Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >However, the average fat old research scientist DOES. I shall ring up >the number forthwith. I wonder if they have any Doctor Konway cels. >That, I am certain, would look groovy on my wall. Heh. Of *course* it would! (try get Callie in the frame...y.y.you know, for contrast!) >A quick note of thanks to those persons of offered, with me, to write >letters to the Consulate of Singapore to try to locate Simon Leet. He's >been found alive, and none the worse for wear after his ordeal at >sea, floating for 39 days on a piece of driftwood in the Sea of Japan. Yeah. He was suddenly deprived of access to his University account (despite the fact that the Katmail is still going *somewhere*), and e-mailed me this morning to re-up him. Done. I was worried he'd done something warranting the death penalty in Singapore - like putting gum underneath a theater seat....or parking in a loading zone. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 5 23:52:05 1996 Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 20:33:54 -0800 Message-Id: <199604060433.UAA27970@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Simon says "Hi"...(why this landed in the 'dead letter' box, who knows?) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >To: kats@bort.mv.net >From: sleet@pacific.net.sg (Leet Wai Leong Simon) >Subject: Re: SWAT Kats animation art, more thereof >Date: Fri, 5 Apr 1996 23:24:34 +0800 >Message-ID: <19960405152433.AAA13209@LOCALNAME> > >At 06:31 AM 4/5/96 -0800, you wrote: >>>A quick note of thanks to those persons of offered, with me, to write >>>letters to the Consulate of Singapore to try to locate Simon Leet. He's >>>been found alive, and none the worse for wear after his ordeal at >>>sea, floating for 39 days on a piece of driftwood in the Sea of Japan. >> >>Yeah. He was suddenly deprived of access to his University account (despite >>the fact that the Katmail is still going *somewhere*), and e-mailed me this >>morning to re-up him. Done. I was worried he'd done something >>warranting the death penalty in Singapore - like putting gum underneath a >>theater seat....or parking in a loading zone. > >Boy, you get locked out of your net account for a few weeks and the things >that start to go around ... sheesh! In anycsae, yes, I'm back ... and >there's a certain "fat old scientist" who should get his facts straight ;) > >Be seeing you folks! > >- Simon Leet >... who's currently at a loss for a .sig > > > _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 6 04:01:07 1996 X-Sender: duehara@pop.ben2.ucla.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 01:40:09 -0800 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: Re: kats V1 #201 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Doc Konway writes: >A quick note of thanks to those persons of offered, with me, to write >letters to the Consulate of Singapore to try to locate Simon Leet. He's >been found alive, and none the worse for wear after his ordeal at >sea, floating for 39 days on a piece of driftwood in the Sea of Japan. > >That will teach him to try to fly the Turbokat without proper training. and Simon sez: >>Boy, you get locked out of your net account for a few weeks and the things >>that start to go around ... sheesh! In anycsae, yes, I'm back ... and >>there's a certain "fat old scientist" who should get his facts straight ;) All the same, I sure hope the Turbokat wasn't damaged. I know of a certain Kat who would be *very* upset if he learned the jet was dinged in any way, shape or form. (Anyone got a couple of matchhead missiles handy, just in case, hmm?) Re: Kats cels... I'd like to get one in particular of the Kats standing in their hangar (season 1 opener) just before they run to and jump into their jet. I think there's a screen grab of this on rat.org, actually. Some time ago, Edo asked why HTMLize the FAQ. Here are a couple of reasons for doing so that I can think of, off the top of my head: (1) Instantaneous link to email, if you wanted to email Turner or the Cartoon Network. (2) Access to other information, such as other web pages, immediately and directly from the HTMLized FAQ. For example, if a company is mentioned that has a web page, you can click on the link and it'll take you directly to that page, if for example you wanted to order something from them. I don't know of any specific examples that I can offer offhand, however. (3) It looks cooler if graphics are involved and you have a web browser that supports graphics, rather than just reading a straight text file. It's true that not everyone has access to a web browser. But I think more of us have access to a web browser than don't, so I think creating an HTMLized FAQ is justified. And in parting, Happy Easter to the list, and for those of you affected, don't forget to "spring forward" before you go to sleep on Saturday! -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 6 05:00:58 1996 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 02:23:54 -0800 Message-Id: <199604061023.CAA00478@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Stories, Fanfic stories. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>Does this mean that good, mediocre, and not bad doesn't count? >> >>Good, yes. Mediocre and bad . . . yeah right. > >Oh well, I guess that have to resign from the fanfic story writing departement. Hmmm, maybe I should try to draw some Kats art. > Okay then. Could you give me your unfinished fanfic? Mabye I could finish it for you, if you want to be ashamed of your CREATIVE GENIUS. You should finish whatever, though. Good, Mediocre and bad aren't possable! >>>Now if only I can finished my story so that you guys can read it. >> Finish it! Show the world how great you are! Write Fanfics! Be cool! Be popular!! >>I *know* this is a 'Kats list, but to quote a certain blue hedgehog: "We're >>waiting . . ." Even TCN says to "Don't give in to ... evil power ...", HA!!! >>And if you're too embarrassed to send it to Rat, send >>it to me! at least, okay? > >It's not that I'm embarrassed or anything, it's just that I'm affraid that my story gonna do more harm than good. > I love harm! SEND IT! I'd love to read it! It can't honestly be worse than Euroatia and Mind Merge's sequal (I'm gonna modify these so they don't do harm!!) ______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." ______________________________________________________ Just one question, WHO AM I??????????????????????????? SHISH! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 6 05:14:41 1996 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 02:27:18 -0800 Message-Id: <199604061027.CAA00516@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Stories Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Look. Good, mediocre and bad don't happen with the kats, because the series >>is too cool! (Arn't I wonderful?) > >Does this mean that every story about the Kats is great? > YES, What did you think? People who like Kats are stupid? Come on! We're all anything BUT stupid!!! ______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan, Japanimation extremist, Whatever. "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." ______________________________________________________ Just one question, WHO AM I??????????????????????????? SHISH! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 6 14:35:17 1996 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 13:01:22 -0800 Message-Id: <199604062101.NAA13773@you.got.net> X-Sender: lsetnor@mail.got.net (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: lsetnor@got.net (Leslie Setnor) Subject: Re: Mutilor + Video games X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >BTW, is it just me, or does Turmoil from "Cry Turmoil" look like an anime character? I dunno. The females in the second season all looked awfully.... humanoid. Karen Setnor lsetnor@got.net mcjd61b@prodigy.com From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 6 14:48:51 1996 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 13:01:05 -0800 Message-Id: <199604062101.NAA13764@you.got.net> X-Sender: lsetnor@mail.got.net (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: lsetnor@got.net (Leslie Setnor) Subject: Re: Merchandise We'd Like to See: Introduction X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > T-Shirts and other clothing There were *some* made, but nobody I know actually found them. The problem is, they can make merchandise, but the show isn't widely known enough to make it popular. They need a mail order catalog! My dream shirts: black, with T-Bone on one side and Jake on the other. Characters in the lower left hand corner against technical diagrams of the Cycletron and the TurboKat. Hey, I can dream, can't I? Karen Setnor lsetnor@got.net mcjd61b@prodigy.com From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 6 20:16:54 1996 Date: Sat, 06 Apr 1996 20:01:35 EST From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-085.43] Message-Id: <096.05347409.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Sighting on Santo Bugito Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net This morning I had the rare chance to watch some Saturday morning cartoons. Typically, I'm in synogoage, but I was getting over a virus and too tired to get up, so I slept in and caught some toons before going to karate. Anyway, I checked out Santo Bugito while I was watching because I was familiar with the animation style-- the people who do Rugrats and Duckman. Guess what! The guest star was a mosquito lawyer who came to get rich out of sucking the town dry with lawsuits. She was voiced by the woman who played Ann Gora on SKS (I forget the name). Recognized it immediately. Funny- - she had the same hairstyle, too. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 6 21:46:32 1996 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 18:40:53 -0800 Message-Id: <199604070240.SAA04699@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Correction: please note it. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I posted awhile back that Buzz Potamkin's comments on rec.arts.animation (remember, he was the Exec. Prod. of "SwatKats") about some recent animated program's budget going "north of $700,000.00" for a single episode. The comment was not referring to any episode of "SwatKats". (I think I even said I wasn't sure in the original post, but, well....there you have it) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 6 22:17:40 1996 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 19:11:28 -0800 Message-Id: <199604070311.TAA05792@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Sighting on Santo Bugito Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net e >town dry with lawsuits. She was voiced by the woman who played >Ann Gora on SKS (I forget the name). Recognized it immediately. Funny- >- >she had the same hairstyle, too. Candi Milo, I think. She's one of the voice artists that I've kept an ear open for, but never seems to get any gigs. The fact I missed her on "Santo Bugito" is...um....not surprising. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 6 22:28:30 1996 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 19:11:34 -0800 Message-Id: <199604070311.TAA05799@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Mutilor + Video games Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >>BTW, is it just me, or does Turmoil from "Cry Turmoil" look like an anime >character? > >I dunno. The females in the second season all looked awfully.... humanoid. I think that may've been the idea. I also note that the Kat guys look proportionally closer to the human side of things in "Unlikely Alloys" and "Mutation City" to some extent. The most human-like of the cast *has* to be Felina, though. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 6 22:36:20 1996 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 19:11:37 -0800 Message-Id: <199604070311.TAA05803@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Merchandise We'd Like to See: Introduction Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> T-Shirts and other clothing > >There were *some* made, but nobody I know actually found them. The problem >is, they can make merchandise, but the show isn't widely known enough to >make it popular. They need a mail order catalog! >My dream shirts: black, with T-Bone on one side and Jake on the other. >Characters in the lower left hand corner against technical diagrams of the >Cycletron and the TurboKat. > >Hey, I can dream, can't I? Heh. If Matt has time to scan in the actual H-B T-shirt designs, you can dream with visual aids. Some of them were way cool - especially the Leather Flight Jackets! _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 6 22:43:07 1996 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 19:11:31 -0800 Message-Id: <199604070311.TAA05796@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: kats V1 #201 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Some time ago, Edo asked why HTMLize the FAQ. Here are a couple of reasons >for doing so that I can think of, off the top of my head: >(1) Instantaneous link to email, if you wanted to email Turner or the >Cartoon Network. This is a great idea. Just have a link labelled something like "tell TCN what you think!" and have the link set for e-mail to Toonnet. Turner org *may* have an address more applicable to "get with the program, Ted" kinda mail, and if so, I'll try find it this week when I find out what's happening with fanmail. (Might be a horrid week - I'll do it if I get time. I also won't stop someone else from doing it if they get time!). _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 6 22:47:52 1996 Date: Sat, 6 Apr 1996 21:36:54 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199604070336.VAA07123@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Mutilor + Video games X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> >>>BTW, is it just me, or does Turmoil from "Cry Turmoil" look like an anime >>character? >> >>I dunno. The females in the second season all looked awfully.... humanoid. > >I think that may've been the idea. I also note that the Kat guys look proportionally >closer to the human side of things in "Unlikely Alloys" and "Mutation City" to >some extent. The most human-like of the cast *has* to be Felina, though. Very much agreed. I've noticed something, but it might just be me. I know how they look humaniod many times, and it seems to me that occasionally during the series only TB & R remain consistantly feline-like. (This may sound weird, lemme try to 'splain.) It seems not much of the second series new characters were very . . . feline. Now Felina, if it weren't for her tail and ears, she *would* be a human. Just MHO. Okay, we now take a break for something that probably doesn't make any sense. ilovevacationscausetheyresocoolandilovetorelaxandgoofoffontheinternetitsjust somuchfunthaticantstayawayandimfeelingreallyhypercauseijustatetoomuchsugar. If anyone can translate that, good for you! Ciao! Terra Chang: writer and poet SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 01:50:26 1996 Message-Id: <1.5.4b13.32.19960407074940.006873cc@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: wkoziol@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b13 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 01:49:40 -0500 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Walter Koziol Subject: THE OFFICIAL SWAT KATS FAN CLUB Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 03:17:45 1996 Message-Id: <1.5.4b13.32.19960407070904.006643e4@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: wkoziol@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b13 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====================_828875344==_" Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 03:09:04 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Walter Koziol Subject: THE OFFICIAL SWAT KATS FAN CLUB X-Attachments: C:\TEMP\Swkats.txt; Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net --=====================_828875344==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" --=====================_828875344==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Swkats.txt" SWAT KATS FAN CLUB You all are probably wondering if there is still a club, the answer is YES. The name of the club has now been changed to "The Official SWAT Kats Fan Club." I was talking to the people at HB and they were most helpful in guiding me with the legalities. I was also been busy with my real job but now I'm starting to have more time on my hands and I can start concentrating again on developing the club. Now you know what's going on. The rules of the club are simple. All I need is your snail mail (Post Office) address and you are in. As for doing stuff I need YOUR HELP in developing and making this club fly. I need your feedback. Say what's on your mind. No matter how stupid it may sound. So please help out in this department. If I am getting too much of a work load then I would really appreciate someone to lend me a hand as well. Also, if you want things like club cards, or special pics from scenes of the show I can also do these but its going to cost some money. If you request something I will do it for the cost of the printer's job. If you do this I will send you the original receipt to prove that I used your money properly. There is one more last thing. Once I get enough snail mail (Post Office) letters stating a fact, I will send them to Ted Turner to prove that the Swat Kats are alive and well and still growing in number. Well I guess this is it. I don't know what else to say but SEND IN THOSE IDEAS!!! I am now back, back with a vengeance. Remember, this club is now called "THE OFFICIAL SWAT KATS FAN CLUB." Thank you for your time in reading this and let us keep them flying. A Swat Kat Fan, wkoziol@ix.netcom.com PS If you have any further questions please feel free to leave me email. The address is wkoziol@ix.netcom.com --=====================_828875344==_-- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 05:45:08 1996 X-Sender: duehara@pop.ben2.ucla.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 02:36:45 -0800 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: HTMLized FAQ, alpha version 1, available... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net ... at "http://rat.org/razor/katsfaq.html". Check it out and let me know what you think. It's still in the process of being revised (as I find more links). I'll do my best to update the HTMLized FAQ at least twice a month. The text FAQ will be updated once a month (twice if I can find the time to update it). -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 06:16:38 1996 Message-Id: <1.5.4b13.32.19960407101744.0066b730@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: wkoziol@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b13 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 06:17:44 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Walter Koziol Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net SWAT KATS FAN CLUB You all are probably wondering if there is still a club, the answer is YES. The name of the club has now been changed to "The Official SWAT Kats Fan Club." I was talking to the people at HB and they were most helpful in guiding me with the legalities. I was also been busy with my real job but now I'm starting to have more time on my hands and I can start concentrating again on developing the club. Now you know what's going on. The rules of the club are simple. All I need is your snail mail (Post Office) address and you are in. As for doing stuff I need YOUR HELP in developing and making this club fly. I need your feedback. Say what's on your mind. No matter how stupid it may sound. So please help out in this department. If I am getting too much of a work load then I would really appreciate someone to lend me a hand as well. Also, if you want things like club cards, or special pics from scenes of the show I can also do these but its going to cost some money. If you request something I will do it for the cost of the printer's job. If you do this I will send you the original receipt to prove that I used your money properly. There is one more last thing. Once I get enough snail mail (Post Office) letters stating a fact, I will send them to Ted Turner to prove that the Swat Kats are alive and well and still growing in number. Well I guess this is it. I don't know what else to say but SEND IN THOSE IDEAS!!! I am now back, back with a vengeance. Remember, this club is now called "THE OFFICIAL SWAT KATS FAN CLUB." Thank you for your time in reading this and let us keep them flying. A Swat Kat Fan, wkoziol@ix.netcom.com PS If you have any further questions please feel free to leave me email. The address is wkoziol@ix.netcom.com PPS I apologize for sending a txt file using the mime protocol on here. I am using a new email reader and its still somewhat foreign to me. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 09:32:43 1996 Message-Id: <199604071313.IAA01683@flowbee.interaccess.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Matthew Milam" To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 08:19:41 +0000 Subject: Re: THE OFFICIAL SWAT KATS FAN CLUB Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hi! This is Matthew Milam here. I'e been a long time member of the swat kats mailing list. and when i heard of your fan club i didn't think of any ideas until now. Here are some to start... 1. Projections of what season three would been like. 2. Love stories...(I like to see my characters get romantic sometimes). 3. A letter count to see how many letter were sent to Ted Turner on Swat Kats Renewal. Hope these help here's my address: Matthew Milam 1452 East 54th Place Chicago,il 60615 ______________________________________________________ Matthew Milam (mcshade@interaccess.com) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 12:54:42 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 23:31:45 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: THE OFFICIAL SWAT KATS FAN CLUB Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net What's the address? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 13:01:59 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 23:31:14 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: The original Policewoman. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I'm curious on what the original Policewoman supposed to be. Does anybody here know about what she supposed to look like? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in cyberspace, all alone in the net." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 13:06:41 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 23:31:21 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Mail order. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> T-Shirts and other clothing > >There were *some* made, but nobody I know actually found them. The problem >is, they can make merchandise, but the show isn't widely known enough to >make it popular. *>They need a mail order catalog!* Good idea! :) Maybe the best way of distributing kats merchandise is through mail-order. >Karen Setnor >lsetnor@got.net >mcjd61b@prodigy.com ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in cyberspace, all alone in the net." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 13:11:22 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 23:31:27 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Felines and Humans Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >It seems not much of the second series new characters were very . . . >feline. Is that a good thing or bad thing? >Now Felina, if it weren't for her tail and ears, she *would* be a human. >Just MHO. A perfect candidate for an ambassador if humankind and katkind gonna have a diplomatic relation! Of course, she still has *four* fingers instead of five. Hmmm, ambassador Feral, or should that be ambassador Felina? >Terra Chang: >writer and poet ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in cyberspace, all alone in the net." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 13:20:18 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 23:31:42 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: HTMLized FAQ, alpha version 1, available... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >... at "http://rat.org/razor/katsfaq.html". Check it out and let me know >what you think. It's still in the process of being revised (as I find more >links). Is like looking at the old FAQ through the eye of a web browser. >I'll do my best to update the HTMLized FAQ at least twice a month. The >text FAQ will be updated once a month (twice if I can find the time to >update it). > >-- >=================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== > Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in cyberspace, all alone in the net." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 13:21:42 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 23:31:07 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Video games... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net OK, this post isn't about SWAT Kats video games. This post is about the= position of video games in the SWAT Kats universe. We know there is an arcade game somewhere in MegaKat city, since that Chance= was playing one in "Destructive Nature", and we do know that wireframe= graphics do exist in the SWAT Kats universe (Look at the dimensional radar= in "The Dark Side of the SWAT Kats".). Is there some sort of company that= make video games in MegaKat city? Do you guys ever think that a Kat Kommando game might exist in the SWAT= Kats universe? Here's another question, do Kat Kommando really exist? Here's the big one, is the SwatKats gonna meet Kat Kommando? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in cyberspace, all alone in the net." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 13:24:15 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 23:31:33 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Stories and Dark Side. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Okay then. Could you give me your unfinished fanfic? Mabye I could finish i= t >for you, if you want to be ashamed of your CREATIVE GENIUS. You should >finish whatever, though. Good, Mediocre and bad aren't possable! All right! OK, I will try to rewrite the first act of my story and then send= it to you. After that, you can tell me if you understand the story or not. Oh yeah A.J., can you please send me the first act of "Shadows of the Red= Lynx'? I want to read it too. >>>I *know* this is a 'Kats list, but to quote a certain blue hedgehog:= "We're=20 >>>waiting . . ." > >Even TCN says to "Don't give in to ... evil power ...", HA!!! Speaking of evil side, I always wondering about "The Dark Side of the SWAT= Kats". Is the Dark SWAT Kats from that universe was destroyed, or do they= slide to another dimension? OK. here's an idea of my that I've been thinking, the SWAT Kats really= doesn't go through some sort of dimensional slide or anything like that,= they have been katnapped by aliens (or something that is very mysterious.)!= The alien decided to test the SWAT Kats by testing them through somekind of= mind test, that mind test is the Dark Side thing that we saw. After they've= finished testing the SWAT Kats, they dropped the SWAT Kats back to MegaKat= city, and the only thing that the SWAT Kats remember is that test. >>It's not that I'm embarrassed or anything, it's just that I'm affraid that >>my story gonna do more harm than good. > >I love harm! SEND IT! I'd love to read it! It can't honestly be worse than >Euroatia and Mind Merge's sequal (I'm gonna modify these so they don't do >harm!!) "I love cruel and unusual punishment." >______________________________________________________ >Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley >SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan >"Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." >______________________________________________________ >Just one question, WHO AM I??????????????????????????? SHISH! ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in cyberspace, all alone in the net." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 13:24:24 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 23:31:17 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Females characters Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>BTW, is it just me, or does Turmoil from "Cry Turmoil" look like an anime= =20 >>character? > >I dunno. The females in the second season all looked awfully.... humanoid. Well, all the furry female characters seem to look more humanoid than their= male counterparts, but you're right, the females in the second season= episode does look more humanoid. Which is kinda strange since that in some= anime, some of the characters look more like a cat than a human. Of course= SWAT Kats isn't an anime, or is it? Speaking of humanoid, we call other beings that look like a human - a= humanoid, what do the kats call the aliens in "When Strikes Mutilor"?= Felinoid maybe? >Karen Setnor >lsetnor@got.net >mcjd61b@prodigy.com ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in cyberspace, all alone in the net." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 13:32:10 1996 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 11:48:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199604071648.LAA28548@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: THE OFFICIAL SWAT KATS FAN CLUB X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Hi! > >This is Matthew Milam here. I'e been a long time member of the swat >kats mailing list. and when i heard of your fan club i didn't think >of any ideas until now. So've I . . . I've known 'bout this fer a while, but got nothin' of it till now . . . go fig. >Here are some to start... Yes, but shouldn't this go directly to Walt? (Not that I don't like seeing possible future ideas that'll happen to our club. ) >1. Projections of what season three would been like. Yeah . . . and maybe a bit more info on the unfinished season two eps. >2. Love stories...(I like to see my characters get romantic > sometimes). Me too. (But don't tell anyone! I'm s'posed t' be the harboiled crazy kid!) >3. A letter count to see how many letter were sent to Ted Turner on > Swat Kats Renewal. Well, o' *course* we have t' do that. VIVE SWAT KATS!! >Hope these help here's my address: And I might as well add mine. >Matthew Milam >1452 East 54th Place >Chicago,il 60615 Mines: Terra Chang 901 Weston Lane Austin, Tx 78733 Thank y'all and walk safely. =) >______________________________________________________ >Matthew Milam >(mcshade@interaccess.com) BTW, Happy Easter from Texas! (I know some o' you've might've already had it, but this is from the Lone Star State! Hugs to you all!) Ciao and meow. Terra Chang: writer and poet SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 14:08:06 1996 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 12:46:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199604071746.MAA01083@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Stories and Dark Side. X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >All right! OK, I will try to rewrite the first act of my story and then send it to you. After that, you can tell me if you understand the story or not. *Ahem* Aren't you forgetting someone? LIke me? But don't rewrite it, send me both copies! >Oh yeah A.J., can you please send me the first act of "Shadows of the Red Lynx'? I want to read it too. Me too! Me too! Me too! Where is it? >Speaking of evil side, We weren't, but I forgive you. >I always wondering about "The Dark Side of the SWAT Kats". Is the Dark SWAT Kats from that universe was destroyed, or do they slide to another dimension? I think they were destroyed. Remember, the dark Turbokat blew up, and the two Dark SWAT Kats didn't have time to eject. Remember: DR: "The bomb's stuck!" DT-B: "You stupid--" and then: KABOOM!!!!!!!!!!! >OK. here's an idea of my that I've been thinking, the SWAT Kats really doesn't go through some sort of dimensional slide or anything like that, they have been katnapped by aliens (or something that is very mysterious.)! The alien decided to test the SWAT Kats by testing them through somekind of mind test, that mind test is the Dark Side thing that we saw. After they've finished testing the SWAT Kats, they dropped the SWAT Kats back to MegaKat city, and the only thing that the SWAT Kats remember is that test. That's one idea. >>>It's not that I'm embarrassed or anything, it's just that I'm affraid that >>>my story gonna do more harm than good. Hey, don't worry 'bout it. In my other sites, some stories end up killing main and very much loved characters, and as far as I know, nobody's been seriously damaged by it. Of course, I *could* be wrong . . . But, send it anyway. >>I love harm! SEND IT! I'd love to read it! It can't honestly be worse than >>Euroatia and Mind Merge's sequal (I'm gonna modify these so they don't do >>harm!!) I'm not fond of harm, but I can stand it. Don't forget this lil kat here, okay? And about Ryan's newest stories? I don't think I even wanna know. >"I love cruel and unusual punishment." Then you must love the cancellation. ______________________________________________________ >>Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley as well as our beloved resident insane man. (I can't claim that title . . . I'm a girl!) >>Just one question, WHO AM I??????????????????????????? SHISH! See the answer above. >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >"A shining beacon in cyberspace, all alone in the net." Yes, but not alone in this list! All o' us here are proof o' that! Ciao! Terra Chang SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the universe was in their hands. Then I ask myself, 'How the heck did we survive?'" ------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 14:41:55 1996 Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 14:18:53 EDT From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-085.43] Message-Id: <096.05383307.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Females characters Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Someone wrote: >>BTW, is it just me, or does Turmoil from "Cry Turmoil" look like an anime= =20 >>character? > >I dunno. The females in the second season all looked awfully.... humanoid. ALL the females pretty much looked humanoid, but it really stuck out second season. Cally's OK, sometimes very kat looking, but Felina's basically a human with a black nose, ears, and a tail. The most kat-like female I think we've seen (aside from Molly, but we don't see much of her with fur) is Dr. Abi Sinian. One of the really distinguishing and critical features to making a kat vs. making a human is the face. Male kats have very furry faces and they seem to be much easier to draw 'cause there's more of a variety for some reason. Women, you can make them VERY feline in movement, but not in face. Dr. Abi, if you look closely, not only has the typical black nose but actually a bunch of short lines behind it-- indicating a very small, cat (yes, I mean that spelling) snout. Cally has that, but not to any degree as Abi. Felina's snout simply doesn't exist--she was drawn if a human face and a black square over her nose. One nice thing about making her gargoyle in "Children"--she's much more animal like, and anything that gets her away from being humanoid helps. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 17:50:28 1996 Message-Id: <1.5.4b13.32.19960407214839.00670edc@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: wkoziol@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b13 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 17:48:39 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Walter Koziol Subject: Re: THE OFFICIAL SWAT KATS FAN CLUB Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 11:31 PM 4/7/96 +0700, you wrote: >What's the address? > > > >I forgot to include the mailing address as well. You and your friends can write to me at the following snail mail (Post Office Address) at: Walter P. Koziol, Jr. P.O. Box 315 Chicopee, MA 01020 I would rather if possible be sent email instead. The email address once again is: wkoziol@ix.netcom.com From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 18:02:28 1996 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:58:47 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: THE OFFICIAL SWAT KATS FAN CLUB In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sun, 7 Apr 1996, Edo Andromedo wrote: > What's the address? You e-mail him YOUR address. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 18:12:48 1996 Message-Id: <1.5.4b13.32.19960407214332.00678628@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: wkoziol@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b13 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 07 Apr 1996 17:43:32 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Walter Koziol Subject: Re: THE OFFICIAL SWAT KATS FAN CLUB Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 08:19 AM 4/7/96 +0000, you wrote: >Hi! > >This is Matthew Milam here. I'e been a long time member of the swat >kats mailing list. and when i heard of your fan club i didn't think >of any ideas until now. > >Here are some to start... > >1. Projections of what season three would been like. > >2. Love stories...(I like to see my characters get romantic > sometimes). > >3. A letter count to see how many letter were sent to Ted Turner on > Swat Kats Renewal. > >Hope these help here's my address: > >Matthew Milam >1452 East 54th Place >Chicago,il 60615 > > > > > > > > > >______________________________________________________ >Matthew Milam >(mcshade@interaccess.com) > >Hey those are great ideas!!! I'll put you in charge of the committee. So, when are you going to start writing those love stories? :P BTW, yer in the club. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 18:16:41 1996 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:10:14 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: RE: THE OFFICIAL SWATKATS FAN CLUB Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I was thinking maybe I could put together the newsletter with pics and such.... one problem: NO COLOR PRINTER!!!! grrr! i hate that! Anyway, I've start a SWAT Kats encyclopedia, unofficallly coined as a "Katlopedia". It has graphics, sound, and videos, with captions, etc. It looks really nice! I just need more HD space to complete it. Oh yeah, I found a 2nd season ep that had NO nitpicks in it. "When Strikes Mutilor". If you find a nitpick in it, please tell me. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 18:24:19 1996 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:05:34 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Stories and Dark Side. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net ok, since I don't know who all wanted my unfinished story, here it is, it's only 1Kb, so it's not exceeding the 6kb limit.: "Shadow of the Red Lynx" ------------------------------------------------------------------- by A.J. Freda (ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Noontime at MegaKat City. The Enforcers have just finished hauling the Blue Manx jet out of MegaKat bay. They take it to Enforcer Headquarters to get it restored. One week later... After extensive work on the Blue Manx, it finally is restored. Mayor Manx was quite upset that he had to sink $1 billion of the city treasury into repairing it. It was damaged very badly from when it was shot down by Mayor Manx a year ago. Feral couldn't wait to try out the Blue Manx and show off to the SWAT Kats. It was getting late, so they left the repair room where the jet was sitting. Feral left three guards to guard it overnight. He didn't want anything to happen to it like it did with the Red Lynx. At approximately midnight, Dark Kat's Creeplings sneak into the repair room with Dark Kat trailing behind. The Creeplings shut off all the security and knock the three guards unconsious. Dark Kat gets into the Blue Manx, takes off and heads back to his hideout. As he is flying away, he looks back at Enforcer Headquarters and says, "Soon, Enforcers, soon..." There it is. Enjoy, build on it, post your versions to rat, though I would appriciate part one being written by me. I'm more of an artist than a writer. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 18:51:38 1996 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 17:33:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199604072233.RAA11791@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Stories and Dark Side. X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >ok, since I don't know who all wanted my unfinished story, here it is, >it's only 1Kb, so it's not exceeding the 6kb limit.: We could start postin' our stories in parts like they do in the StH list, (yes, I know, I'm getting bad at keeping my lists seperate, but . . .) 'Course, I'd have a bit of a probl'm keepin' 'em under the 6kb limit . . . >There it is. Enjoy, build on it, post your versions to rat, though I >would appriciate part one being written by me. I'm more of an artist than >a writer. Okay, I c'n do that. But, could I lengthen part one (if I ever get around to embroidering on it)? I'm more o' a writer than artist. (My favorite part 'bout it is laughing at the writing attempts o' those who scorned my drawings. ) > >A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please >ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! >"Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club >SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS Ciao! Terra Chang SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the universe was in their hands. Then I ask myself, 'How the heck did we survive?'" ------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 19:09:26 1996 From: louallen.wheeler@fatal.com (Louallen Wheeler) Subject: Harvey, Archie and Turner - the unholy trinity of comicdom... Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:08:17 GMT Message-Id: <96040711232835409@fatal.com> Organization: FATAL ERROR |(916)365-7456/6104 | Redding, Ca. To: kats@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net -> I thought you lived in No.Cal. What's a "small town" in No.Cal? -> (lemme guess. They're still showing "Star Wars" at the local -> multiplex?) -> Anyway, Turner had a tentative deal with Harvey Comics. Something -> happened with Harvey Comics where they were bought out, or went -> bankrupt, or some junk, then Archie Comics got the rights to H-B -> stuff. Archie supposedly was interested in a Kats title, but was -> more or less *told* not to pursue it by their parent company -- also -> Turner. Christian Tremblay was talking to Dark Horse comix who were -> interested enough to schedule several meetings, but in the end -> brushed off Christian with the comment that Peej is referring to. -> The last mention of a Kats-title to Turner reps came at SanDiego -> comicon, where a rep from a comics outfit approached a Turner rep to -> ask about a possible Kat-comic, and was laughed off. How -> professional. -> _____________________________________________________ Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Laugh it up. I live in a quiet Northern California town just outside of Redding called Palo Cedro, same place as Ryan lives, just about 2 miles north of him, though. And we don't even have ONE movie theater here! And if that thing involving the Star Wars CCG is what made you say that, HA! Well, I gotta go. Not only am I timed on the BBS that I'm writing this from, but the BBS is slowing me down by taking forever to respond to my typing. Well, bye! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 21:45:18 1996 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 18:42:25 -0700 Message-Id: <199604080142.SAA18298@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: BOUNCE kats: (Interesting mental picture...) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net **Simon's posts shouldn't be bouncing. I'll forward 'em manually until I can work it out.**** To: kats@bort.mv.net From: sleet@pacific.net.sg (Leet Wai Leong Simon) Subject: Re: Merchandise We'd Like to See: Introduction Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 19:49:37 +0800 Message-ID: <19960407114936.AAA4048@LOCALNAME> At 07:11 PM 4/6/96 -0800, you wrote: >Heh. If Matt has time to scan in the actual H-B T-shirt designs, you can dream >with visual aids. Some of them were way cool - especially the Leather Flight >Jackets! WOW! Are they still around?! Gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme! *ahem* right ... on another note, for those of you who want to print your own shirts, I think one of Canon's bubble jets has the capability to print on design paper which can be ironed on to any clean shirt ... I think I can find out the model number if anyone is desperate enough to want to know ... with the library of Kats pics on the ftp site already, you could probably print out some fairly decent designs on your own. If not, you can always dream on ... ;) -Simon Leet _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 22:49:17 1996 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 19:47:09 -0700 Message-Id: <199604080247.TAA21037@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Mail order. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>> T-Shirts and other clothing >> >>There were *some* made, but nobody I know actually found them. The problem >>is, they can make merchandise, but the show isn't widely known enough to >>make it popular. > >*>They need a mail order catalog!* > >Good idea! :) Maybe the best way of distributing kats merchandise is through mail-order. "We're looking into maybe making some things available through the fan-mail system" -- Hanna-Barbera (though I'll leave the speaker un-named) c. March, 1995 Hm. Still waiting. I think the only thing you can currently get direct from H-B is posters for "Power Puff Girls", though even *that* was a long time ago. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 23:02:59 1996 Message-Id: <199604080301.UAA21454@unix.infoserve.net> From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Dipso Factoids on CN Date: Mon, 08 Apr 1996 02:56:02 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I pulled this off rec.arts.animation for a laugh... In rec.arts.animation, k._m._schoonmaker@spacesta.com (K. M._SCHOONMAKER) wrote: >Was anybody watching Cartoon Network today? >If so, I hope you all were paying attention to some of the "factoids" you heard >throughout CN's programming day. (Something to do with today's date, I believe) >Here are some of the ones I remembered (correct me if I misquote): >*On "Smurfs": "The part of Papa Smurf is being played by Judy Jetson." >*"Perils of Penelope Pitstop:" "The Anthill Mob (her gangster-protectors) >were once tall, but Penelope put them in the dryer!" >And here are two of my favorites from "SWAT Kats:" >"Razor doesn't want you to know this, but his given name is...Cuddles >(It's true!)" >"Megakat City is actually a suburb of Des Moines." >Hope you all got at least a chuckle or two out of 'em. >--I(P.S. "Dexter's Laboratory," a loaf from the risen dough of "Cartoon >Pilot Playhouse"--er, I mean, "World Premiere Toons," premieres April >28.) >... "Beats my last job as the royal speed bump..." >___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 _____________________________________________________________________ "People have been trained to be stupid -- they need a word-checker to spell, they need a titular watch to tell time, and they need a goddamn PC to give them their sex and their community." H. Ellison _____________________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 7 23:05:29 1996 Date: Sun, 7 Apr 1996 19:47:05 -0700 Message-Id: <199604080247.TAA21034@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Harvey, Archie and Turner - the unholy trinity of comicdom... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, Laugh it up. I can't imagine what I would've said in this person's place (with the Turner rep laughing at me, that is), but I'm sure the Tedco rep wouldn't have easily forgotten it. Without diving into the realms of prehistory like "Flintstones", I wonder if they could name a property other than Kats created by them within recent memory to rival it in terms of popularity/merchandisablility. I kinda doubt they could, and they have some of the best spin-doctors going at the moment. I live in a quiet Northern California >town just outside of Redding called Palo Cedro, same place as Ryan >lives, just about 2 miles north of him, though. Hold on. A "quiet" No.Cal town with Ryan? Is that possible? And we don't even have >ONE movie theater here! And if that thing involving the Star Wars CCG >is what made you say that, HA! I'll never tell! _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 03:32:23 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 14:17:31 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: HTMLized FAQ. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Razor wrote: >Some time ago, Edo asked why HTMLize the FAQ. Here are a couple of reasons >for doing so that I can think of, off the top of my head: >(1) Instantaneous link to email, if you wanted to email Turner or the >Cartoon Network. Or to the one that maintained the FAQ. ;) >(2) Access to other information, such as other web pages, immediately and >directly from the HTMLized FAQ. For example, if a company is mentioned >that has a web page, you can click on the link and it'll take you directly >to that page, if for example you wanted to order something from them. I >don't know of any specific examples that I can offer offhand, however. Well, if the FAQ has gone to more than 10k, it will be very useful to= HTMLized it, you can divided section by section, and then put somekind of= link to the other sections at the beginning of the FAQ so that people can= jump to directly to the section that they want to read. >(3) It looks cooler if graphics are involved and you have a web browser >that supports graphics, rather than just reading a straight text file. Speaking of web browser, how many you out there that got an access to a web= browser that that can handle frames? BTW, is there a plan on building a SWAT Kats vehicles and weapons FAQ? I= think that would be cool if that FAQ got HTMLized too. >It's true that not everyone has access to a web browser. But I think more >of us have access to a web browser than don't, so I think creating an >HTMLized FAQ is justified. Well, in that case, here's some of the suggestion for the new HTML FAQ that= I can think of right now: When somebody click the merchandise thing on the FAQ, there is a link to the= pictures of the merchandise in rat.org/kats/promo directory. When somebody click the 23 episode thing on the FAQ, there is a link to the= episode guide (rat.org/kats/episodes.txt). BTW Razor, I think that you should add the "no SWAT Kats comic" thing and= the officiality of Walt's SWAT Kats fan club to the FAQ . Oh yeah Razor, one more thing, who is Yaeger? >-- >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Dana Uehara= (razor@rat.org) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D > Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "A shining beacon in cyberspace, all alone in the net." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 12:53:00 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:43:55 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Songs... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Do you guys ever wonder what kind of song that might exist in the kats world? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 14:58:16 1996 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 96 14:27:42 EDT From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sighting on Santo Bugito Message-ID: <9604081427.aa01266@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>town dry with lawsuits. She was voiced by the woman who played >>Ann Gora on SKS (I forget the name). Recognized it immediately. Funny- >>- >>she had the same hairstyle, too. > >Candi Milo, I think. She's one of the voice artists that I've kept an ear >open for, but never seems to get any gigs. The fact I missed her >on "Santo Bugito" is...um....not surprising. She played Thundra the Rainbird in two (three?) eps of "Aladdin" as well. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 15:33:44 1996 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 96 14:01:02 EDT From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: SWAT Kats animation art, more thereof Message-ID: <9604081401.aa01226@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> I think they may've shied away from cel sales *this* long >> because the average 12-year old F-14 fan doesn't have $400.00 bucks >> burning a hole in his back pocket. > >However, the average fat old research scientist DOES. I shall ring up >the number forthwith. I wonder if they have any Doctor Konway cels. >That, I am certain, would look groovy on my wall. :) A Doc Konway cel would likely be cheaper than one with the main characters, but it may be impossible to get. I found this out last year in my efforts to find cels of one of the villains from the Aladdin TV series for a couple of friends. Finally found some, after a friend at a gallery pulled strings with Disney Art Editions. And I don't know if H-B's art organization is quite as well-oiled as Disney's. If the cels are culled overseas before being shipped the chances are slim. Still, I hope it's not the case. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 18:16:32 1996 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 16:22:20 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199604082122.QAA14959@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Songs... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Do you guys ever wonder what kind of song that might exist in the kats world? Well, if we can't find any in this world, we could always write 'em ourselves! (I voluneteer fer lyrics!) Ciao! Terra Chang SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the universe was in their hands. Then I ask myself, 'How the heck did we survive?'" ------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 20:05:47 1996 From: louallen.wheeler@fatal.com (Louallen Wheeler) Subject: Re: Harvey, Archie and Turner - the unholy trinity of comicdom... Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 23:45:05 GMT Message-Id: <96040816472435531@fatal.com> Organization: FATAL ERROR |(916)365-7456/6104 | Redding, Ca. To: kats@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net -> ______________________________________________________ -> >Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley -> >SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan -> >"Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." -> >______________________________________________________ -> -> Hey Ryan...when you gonna fix this, bro? "Immortality"....two "m"'s. Yeah... Hey everybody... Let's try to catch EVERY ERROR THAT RYAN MAKES... EVERY SINGLE ONE!!!!!!!! HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA! He laughed maniacally [sp?] From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 21:10:03 1996 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 17:52:57 -0700 Message-Id: <199604090052.RAA27856@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Speling Erors..and marketing stuff... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >-> ______________________________________________________ >-> >Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley >-> >SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan >-> >"Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." >-> >______________________________________________________ >-> >-> Hey Ryan...when you gonna fix this, bro? "Immortality"....two "m"'s. >Yeah... Hey everybody... Let's try to catch EVERY ERROR THAT RYAN >MAKES... EVERY SINGLE ONE!!!!!!!! > >HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA! He laughed maniacally [sp?] Call me fussy, but spelling errors are more egregious when they're repeated daily in a sigfile (especially after I'd previously told him how to spell it in e-mail too!). Oh yeah, the stuff like those Leather Flight Jackets in that H-B "Style Guide" thing were almost without exception never made. Basically, the whole thing was created to show around the network of potential licensees in order to give them some idea of what they *could* get a license agreement to produce. The Jackets are *obviously* geared towards viewers considerably older than the 6-11's, so at least someone realized that the merchandise demand wouldn't stop at action-figures and bedspreads. They've got some pictures of the watch concepts in this thing, which is really the only thing I can think of that they actually went ahead with. The really funny thing about this whole book is the great detail that H-B goes into to ensure that the packaging and color scheme is just so - even down to the printing font used: "Vulcan Schriftena", created specifically for the Kats and their environment! In light of this, isn't it incredibly ironic that Razor's nose on Turner's own Home Video boxes is a clueless shade of white? I'd be embarrassed. (at least it wasn't W.C. Fields red, though nobody could blame a grounded Kat for taking up drinking in the complete absence of anything more exciting...) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 8 21:20:51 1996 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604090108.AA33986@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: SWAT Kats animation art, more thereof To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 20:08:29 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <9604081401.aa01226@octavius.pica.army.mil> from "Ed Rudnicki" at Apr 8, 96 02:01:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1957 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I get back on-line after a couple days of Easter vacation and I discover tons of Kats mail and the latest CELMAIL announcements. Ed's too modest to brag about his recent, excellent post to CELMAIL about Kats art, so I'll do it for him: >From CELMAIL@aol.com Fri Apr 5 11:14:15 1996 ================================================================== For those who might be interested in acquiring cels from the Hanna Barbera/Turner series "SWAT Kats: the Radical Squadron", I've been told that they'll be released soon. It may be worthwhile to call H-B at 1-800-577-7878 to inquire about them, as multiple inquiries may encourage them to put them on the market sooner. It may also be worthwhile to specifically ask for art from the superior (visually) Mook studio animated episodes. Does H-B have a network of "preferred" galleries, like Disney? Ed Rudnicki Oculis numquam claudentibus erudnick@pica.army.mil -- Hi Ed. H-B has a gallery program, but will sell to just about any gallery that orders their minimum amounts. With increasing sales quotas, the H-B Animation sales staff have been known to sell to card shops, frame shops, and I've been told even flea marketers. Steve Grossfeld Moderator Think about all the people who read *that*. And in regards to the possibility that you individually may not be able to afford a Kats cel, I suggest calling the number anyway. As the prices and lack of Mook artwork show, the Kats cels release is far from an ideal one, H-B needs to understand how the artwork's release would best be prioritized, they welcome any opinions, and need to hear that there *are* SWAT Kats fans out there. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 01:01:45 1996 Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 21:49:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199604090449.VAA27559@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats animation art, more thereof Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Hi Ed. > >H-B has a gallery program, but will sell to just about any gallery that >orders their minimum amounts. With increasing sales quotas, the H-B >Animation sales staff have been known to sell to card shops, frame shops, and >I've been told even flea marketers. > >Steve Grossfeld >Moderator Yeah, though some of these outlets may appear to "cheapen" the product in some fashion, we the consumer should realize that higher volume often brings lower unit pricing. That is, unless you're Disney! > Think about all the people who read *that*. And in regards to the >possibility that you individually may not be able to afford a Kats cel, I >suggest calling the number anyway. As the prices and lack of Mook artwork >show, the Kats cels release is far from an ideal one, H-B needs to >understand how the artwork's release would best be prioritized, they welcome >any opinions, and need to hear that there *are* SWAT Kats fans out there. One comment on this Mook-Hanho thing. I don't know for certain that they're releasing only the Hanho, but earlier I'd heard from a third party that if cels were going to be released, they'd only be the Hanho ones for reasons unspecified (someone else suggested that the Mook ones were all destroyed in the Orient, but I've heard junk like this before). Anyway, that was a few months ago now, so things might've changed, or this individual could've been talking through their hat. Best call before taking my word for it regardless. I'll probably call them anyway, I guess. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 09:24:15 1996 From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: "'Kats list'" Subject: RE: Merchandise We'd Like to See: Introduction Date: Wed, 03 Apr 96 21:05:00 PDT Message-ID: <316A7EB9@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 11 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Heh. If Matt has time to scan in the actual H-B T-shirt designs, you can dream >with visual aids. Some of them were way cool - especially the Leather Flight >Jackets! Patience... I'm working on it. I want to make sure these scans come out as *purfect* as possible! -Matt From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 10:47:11 1996 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 07:11:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199604091411.HAA14481@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: RE: Merchandise We'd Like to See: Introduction Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >>Heh. If Matt has time to scan in the actual H-B T-shirt designs, you can >dream >>with visual aids. Some of them were way cool - especially the Leather >Flight >>Jackets! > >Patience... I'm working on it. I want to make sure these scans come out >as *purfect* as possible! Cool! Plus, it doesn't help that there's something like forty pages to plow through. (Even if Tedco/Fondacom had just seen fit to make the *crests* on those jackets available to the katfans, I would've been happy (-er) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 14:20:15 1996 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 96 13:43:26 EDT From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Speling Erors..and marketing stuff... Message-ID: <9604091343.aa02026@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Oh yeah, the stuff like those Leather Flight Jackets in that H-B "Style Guide" >thing were almost without exception never made. Basically, the whole thing >was created to show around the network of potential licensees in order to >give them some idea of what they *could* get a license agreement to produce. >The Jackets are *obviously* geared towards viewers considerably older >than the 6-11's, so at least someone realized that the merchandise demand >wouldn't stop at action-figures and bedspreads. They've got some pictures >of the watch concepts in this thing, which is really the only thing I can think >of that they actually went ahead with. The purpose of the style guide is both to suggest possible product ideas, and also to ensure that the merchandide actually produced looks like the licensed characters depicted therein/on. >The really funny thing about this whole book is the great detail that H-B >goes into to ensure that the packaging and color scheme is just so - even >down to the printing font used: "Vulcan Schriftena", created specifically >for the Kats and their environment! In light of this, isn't it incredibly ironic >that Razor's nose on Turner's own Home Video boxes is a clueless shade >of white? I'd be embarrassed. Most style guides are like this, and unique fonts are the rule rather than the exception. This allows one to let the viewer/ consumer know which product they're looking at even without pictures. It's also an important device for making the real thing stand out from the imitations, though of course SWAT Kats merchandise never got to that stage :( Turner is not alone at all in putting out lousy video cover art. Far from it, sadly :( Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 14:41:14 1996 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 96 13:51:14 EDT From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: SWAT Kats animation art, more thereof Message-ID: <9604091351.aa02042@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>H-B has a gallery program, but will sell to just about any gallery that >>orders their minimum amounts. With increasing sales quotas, the H-B >>Animation sales staff have been known to sell to card shops, frame shops, and >>I've been told even flea marketers. >> >>Steve Grossfeld >>Moderator > >Yeah, though some of these outlets may appear to "cheapen" the product >in some fashion, we the consumer should realize that higher volume often >brings lower unit pricing. That is, unless you're Disney! It's not so much volume as whether the outlet belongs to a "preferred gallery" plan or not. With Disney the expected markup is 100 %, and most galleries will charge this. Some, however, prefer to get their profits through volume, and even sell to other galleries who can still undercut the "preferred gallery" prices. It looks like we'll be in good shape with the SK cels, as H-B apparently doesn't have anywhere near the network that Disney has. >> Think about all the people who read *that*. And in regards to the >>possibility that you individually may not be able to afford a Kats cel, I >>suggest calling the number anyway. As the prices and lack of Mook artwork >>show, the Kats cels release is far from an ideal one, H-B needs to >>understand how the artwork's release would best be prioritized, they welcome >>any opinions, and need to hear that there *are* SWAT Kats fans out there. > >One comment on this Mook-Hanho thing. I don't know for certain that >they're releasing only the Hanho, but earlier I'd heard from a third party >that if cels were going to be released, they'd only be the Hanho ones for >reasons unspecified (someone else suggested that the Mook ones were >all destroyed in the Orient, but I've heard junk like this before). Anyway, that OTOH, this _does_ happen. The studios are there to animate the material, first and foremost. In many cases when they are tasked to send over cels they pretty much throw in material at hand until the specified quota is filled, without regard to artistic value, leaving it up to the company back home to cull what's sent over. The rest then get chucked. I see this with the TLM TV cels; I see a _lot_ of material, and there's a lot of duplication from certain eps/scenes, while there's _nothing_ from others. I hope the Mook cels survived, but there's no guarantee they did. I guess we'll just wait and see. And hope. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 16:51:58 1996 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 96 16:30:44 EDT From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: SWAT Kats animation art, more thereof Message-ID: <9604091630.aa02442@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > I get back on-line after a couple days of Easter vacation and I discover >tons of Kats mail and the latest CELMAIL announcements. Ed's too modest to >brag about his recent, excellent post to CELMAIL about Kats art, so I'll do it >for him: Dang, he beat me to it! Anyhow, it turns out a gallery I do business with (Animation Sensations in DC) subscribes to CELMAIL, and the owner said she'll let me know when the SK cels are out, and I of course will let you all know. > Think about all the people who read *that*. And in regards to the >possibility that you individually may not be able to afford a Kats cel, I >suggest calling the number anyway. As the prices and lack of Mook artwork >show, the Kats cels release is far from an ideal one, H-B needs to >understand how the artwork's release would best be prioritized, they welcome >any opinions, and need to hear that there *are* SWAT Kats fans out there. It is an indication of the show's popularity that the cels are being priced that high. If H-B didn't think they'd sell at that level they'd be priced a lot lower. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 17:15:52 1996 From: louallen.wheeler@fatal.com (Louallen Wheeler) Subject: Re: Merchandise We'd Like to See: Introduction Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 21:01:40 GMT Message-Id: <96040913400235607@fatal.com> Organization: FATAL ERROR |(916)365-7456/6104 | Redding, Ca. To: kats@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net -> > T-Shirts and other clothing -> -> There were *some* made, but nobody I know actually found them. The -> problem is, they can make merchandise, but the show isn't widely -> known enough to make it popular. They need a mail order catalog! -> My dream shirts: black, with T-Bone on one side and Jake on the other -> Characters in the lower left hand corner against technical diagrams -> of the Cycletron and the TurboKat. -> -> Hey, I can dream, can't I? -> -> Karen Setnor There is a way to do this... If you have a color printer (laser is best), you can buy paper for your printer that is iron-on. When you print it out, put it on a shirt. Voila [sp?]! There you go... If anybody wants to do this, Radio Shack has the paper, but other places might also. The paper's a bit spendy though. Or, you could print it out off of your computer, or get any other pic you want on a shirt and have it done at a professional place for around $14. My mom did that for my dad's B-Day with a large picture of the cover of my dad's tape that he made. His own artwork too... Think about it... 'Nobody wants to play with me. . .' the man says as he chases his prey while driving a monster truck... Jedi Louie... (I think..) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 17:52:46 1996 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 96 17:21:32 EDT From: Ed Rudnicki To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Gordy Toys SK Item Found Message-ID: <9604091721.aa02585@octavius.pica.army.mil> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net In case anyone's interested I found a few copies of the Gordy Toys SWAT Kats "Prop Shooter" at a local drugstore. If anyone wants one LMK; I think they had three. Unfortunately I didn't note the price, but it wouldn't be much anyway, as cheapness is Gordy Toys' stock in trade. Ed From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 18:12:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id RAA28962 for kats-ll; Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:37:34 -0400 Message-Id: <1.5.4b13.32.19960409214432.00674cac@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: wkoziol@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b13 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 17:44:32 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Walter Koziol Subject: Re: Merchandise We'd Like to See: Introduction Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 09:01 PM 4/9/96 GMT, you wrote: >-> > T-Shirts and other clothing >-> >-> There were *some* made, but nobody I know actually found them. The >-> problem is, they can make merchandise, but the show isn't widely >-> known enough to make it popular. They need a mail order catalog! >-> My dream shirts: black, with T-Bone on one side and Jake on the other >-> Characters in the lower left hand corner against technical diagrams >-> of the Cycletron and the TurboKat. >-> >-> Hey, I can dream, can't I? >-> >-> Karen Setnor >There is a way to do this... If you have a color printer (laser is >best), you can buy paper for your printer that is iron-on. When you >print it out, put it on a shirt. Voila [sp?]! There you go... If >anybody wants to do this, Radio Shack has the paper, but other places >might also. The paper's a bit spendy though. Or, you could print it >out off of your computer, or get any other pic you want on a shirt and >have it done at a professional place for around $14. My mom did that >for my dad's B-Day with a large picture of the cover of my dad's tape >that he made. His own artwork too... Think about it... > >'Nobody wants to play with me. . .' the man says as he chases his prey >while driving a monster truck... > > Jedi Louie... (I think..) > >If you are talking about those iron-on transfers lasers are the worst to use. The toner is of a very fine powerder and that if you wash it even in cold cycle it will bleed and bleed big time. The best to use is the Canon Bubble jets and the (I think) Epson Color Stylest II printers. I'll let you know when I try it out on my Stylest. As you know and for those who don't know these are bubble jet printers and they act like like the iron-on machines that you see at your local T-Shirt Express outlets or any other t-shirt places. These are the best kind to use. If it works on my printer and is safe to wash at least a dozen times before the color starts to really fade then I'll go and do custom orders. I will not over charge, just for the use of the ink, the iron on papers, and the postage and handling. If you have your favorite pic send it to me via email and I'll print it out on the iron-on sheets. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 18:21:42 1996 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 17:04:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199604092204.RAA11798@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Okay, this is off-topic, but I couldn't find his address . . . X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Like the subject says, this is really off-topic. I wanted to just send a "thank-you" note to A.J. I got the pictures you sent. You're really good! I couldn't find his e-mail address, so I had to send it to the list in general. A.J., thanx!! =) =) =) Ciao! Terra Chang SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the universe was in their hands. Then I ask myself, 'How the heck did we survive?'" ------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 22:56:16 1996 From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: "'Kats list'" Subject: RE: Sighting on Santo Bugito Date: Thu, 04 Apr 96 04:22:00 PDT Message-ID: <316B3A35@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 16 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Candi Milo, I think. She's one of the voice artists that I've kept an ear >>open for, but never seems to get any gigs. The fact I missed her >>on "Santo Bugito" is...um....not surprising. >She played Thundra the Rainbird in two (three?) eps of "Aladdin" as >well. Candi has also worked with Tress MacNeill on the CD-ROM "Full Throttle". On Monday I noticed that the credits at the end of "Metal Urgency" (my favorite ep.) contained quite a bit of talent.. Gary Owens, Mark Hamill, as well as the other usuals. Anyone have an idea how much $$ was spent on voice actors? -Matt From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 23:02:50 1996 From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: "'Kats list'" Subject: RE: BOUNCE kats: (Interesting mental picture...) Date: Thu, 04 Apr 96 04:29:00 PDT Message-ID: <316B3A38@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 21 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >*ahem* right ... on another note, for those of you who want to print your >own shirts, I think one of Canon's bubble jets has the capability to print >on design paper which can be ironed on to any clean shirt ... I think I can >find out the model number if anyone is desperate enough to want to know ... Heh. I happen to have just such a printer (BJC-610) and has excellent output. Canon's special cloth transfer paper is available at most office supply stores or directly through Canon. (You can do a search for their web page since I don't happen to know it.) It's kinda funny you brought this up, because I have been working (well, _trying_ to find some time to work) on a design for a t-shirt. If (and when) I ever get it finished, I'll send a thumbnail version to the ftp site. -Matt From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 9 23:56:59 1996 Message-Id: <1.5.4b13.32.19960410034901.006737dc@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: wkoziol@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b13 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 09 Apr 1996 23:49:01 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Walter Koziol Subject: RE: BOUNCE kats: (Interesting mental picture...) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 04:29 AM 4/4/96 PDT, you wrote: > >>*ahem* right ... on another note, for those of you who want to print >your >>own shirts, I think one of Canon's bubble jets has the capability to >print >>on design paper which can be ironed on to any clean shirt ... I think I >can >>find out the model number if anyone is desperate enough to want to know >... > >Heh. I happen to have just such a printer (BJC-610) and has excellent >output. Canon's special cloth transfer paper is available at most office >supply stores or directly through Canon. (You can do a search for their >web page since I don't happen to know it.) > >It's kinda funny you brought this up, because I have been working (well, >_trying_ to find some time to work) on a design for a t-shirt. If (and >when) I ever get it finished, I'll send a thumbnail version to the ftp >site. > > -Matt > >Yea.....The funny thing is that I want to do work on something nice as well for a t-shirt but everytime I sit down and begin my design something always come up. I wish sometimes that you can eject from life to do the stuff you really enjoy, oh well. =========================================================================== I don't think we're in Kansas any more Toto. Dorathy -- From Wizard of Oz. =========================================================================== From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 00:41:09 1996 Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 21:31:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199604100431.VAA29052@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Giyggas Subject: Re: Harvey, Archie and Turner - the unholy trinity of comicdom... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >-> ______________________________________________________ >-> >Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley >-> >SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan >-> >"Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." >-> >______________________________________________________ >-> >-> Hey Ryan...when you gonna fix this, bro? "Immortality"....two "m"'s. >Yeah... Hey everybody... Let's try to catch EVERY ERROR THAT RYAN >MAKES... EVERY SINGLE ONE!!!!!!!! > >HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA! He laughed maniacally [sp?] > WHO KAREZ? IFF EWE KAN UNDARSTAND WHATT THU PERSUN MEENS 2 SAY, THUN THARE'Z NO PROBLIM! Let's try to keep these things on topic too, huh? Whoever wrote this annoying little thing dosn't seem to understand this. A while ago, we found it was easiest to keep things as on topic as possable. GOT IT? Yeah... Hey everybody... Let's try to catch EVERY ERROR THAT THIS PERSON MAKES... EVERY SINGLE ONE!!!!!!!! HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA! He laughed maniacally [sp?]. You can get annoying, I can get worse. Hey, was this guy the same one who killed me over the scanner too? Hmmmmmm....... Oh well. I'll see if I can settle this myself, just, let's try not to kill each other like this one killed me. BTW, the world of Imortality is really a world of clouds and space. It's inhabitants are to control the Universe (It's an Archeivic thing, I assure you.) Now where were we? ______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan, Japanimation extremist, Whatever. "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." "Abmnesia. One thing leads to another, and..... you know nothing." ______________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 01:39:57 1996 Message-Id: <1.5.4b13.32.19960410054037.00670564@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: danramos@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b13 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 01:40:37 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Dan Ramos Subject: RE: BOUNCE kats: (Interesting mental picture...) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 04:29 AM 4/4/96 PDT, you wrote: > >>*ahem* right ... on another note, for those of you who want to print your >>own shirts, I think one of Canon's bubble jets has the capability to print >>on design paper which can be ironed on to any clean shirt ... I think I can >>find out the model number if anyone is desperate enough to want to know... > >Heh. I happen to have just such a printer (BJC-610) and has excellent >output. Canon's special cloth transfer paper is available at most office >supply stores or directly through Canon. (You can do a search for their >web page since I don't happen to know it.) > >It's kinda funny you brought this up, because I have been working (well, >_trying_ to find some time to work) on a design for a t-shirt. If (and >when) I ever get it finished, I'll send a thumbnail version to the ftp >site. > Actually.. it's not the printer that matters, but the ink used. All Canon printers using CANON ink will do this fine. I myself had worn a MILES T-shirt (my character, Miles, not Tails) to ConFURence East. Ratman and lotsa other furs can vouch for it. It's right here with me right now in RL (Real Life) and the iron-on looks GREAT and cleans quite well (in cold or warm gentle wash). T-Bone knows all 'bout it... he bought some of this paper from my Sears store and he's got a Cannon BJC-600 and an Epson. I know Hewlett Packard BLACK ink will NOT transfer--so don't even try it (there might be ink by other manufacturers for HP inkjets that might work.. but I'm not aware of any). From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 02:02:17 1996 Message-Id: <1.5.4b13.32.19960410053603.006669c4@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: danramos@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b13 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 01:36:03 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Dan Ramos Subject: RE: BOUNCE kats: (Interesting mental picture...) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 04:29 AM 4/4/96 PDT, you wrote: > >>*ahem* right ... on another note, for those of you who want to print your >>own shirts, I think one of Canon's bubble jets has the capability to print >>on design paper which can be ironed on to any clean shirt ... I think I can >>find out the model number if anyone is desperate enough to want to know... > >Heh. I happen to have just such a printer (BJC-610) and has excellent >output. Canon's special cloth transfer paper is available at most office >supply stores or directly through Canon. (You can do a search for their >web page since I don't happen to know it.) > >It's kinda funny you brought this up, because I have been working (well, >_trying_ to find some time to work) on a design for a t-shirt. If (and >when) I ever get it finished, I'll send a thumbnail version to the ftp >site. > Actually.. it's not the printer that matters, but the ink used. All Canon printers using CANON ink will do this fine. I myself had worn a MILES T-shirt (my character, Miles, not Tails) to ConFURence East. Ratman and lotsa other furs can vouch for it. It's right here with me right now in RL (Real Life) and the iron-on looks GREAT and cleans quite well (in cold or warm gentle wash). T-Bone knows all 'bout it... he bought some of this paper from my Sears store and he's got a Cannon BJC-600 and an Epson. I know Hewlett Packard BLACK ink will NOT transfer--so don't even try it. SO NOW!!! An ON-TOPIC POST!! heheh... More Sonic merchandise found. ------------------------------------------------------------- /// BOF ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// ------------------------------------------------------------- FREE SONIC WATCH OFFER Send 25 empty specially marked INSTANT QUAKER OATMEAL packets Plus $1.00 shipping and handling. THE QUAKER OATS COMPANY PO BOX 049003 CHICAGO IL 60604-9003 USA ------------------------------------------------------------- 16 SONIC COLLECTOR'S CAPS (POG-style caps) "There are 4 FREE Sonic the Hedghog Collectors Caps in each box of Cookie-Crisp and 16 Caps in all. With your favorite Sega and Cookie-Crisp characters on these caps, you'll want every one!" RALSTON FOODS, INC. PO BOX 618 ST.LOUIS, MISSOURI 63188-0618 USA ------------------------------------------------------------- /// EOF ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 06:25:02 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 17:13:55 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Voice actors. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Dj wrote: >>>Candi Milo, I think. She's one of the voice artists that I've kept an >>>ear open for, but never seems to get any gigs. The fact I missed her >>>on "Santo Bugito" is...um....not surprising. Ed wrote: >>She played Thundra the Rainbird in two (three?) eps of "Aladdin" as >>well. Matt wrote: >Candi has also worked with Tress MacNeill on the CD-ROM "Full Throttle". Ahh... "Full Throttle"... It got a junkyard, a garage, a mechanic, and a heavy metal music. If I don't know it better, I swore that I was a playing a SWAT Kats adventure game. Now if only Maureen has a tail and is a flight commander. > On Monday I noticed that the credits at the end of "Metal Urgency" (my >favorite ep.) contained quite a bit of talent.. Gary Owens, Mark Hamill, >as well as the other usuals. I like "Metal Urgency" too, the only thing that bothered me is that blur thing. >Anyone have an idea how much $$ was spent on voice actors? Yeah, I always wanted to know that too, how much do they get paid anyway? > -Matt ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya Starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 10:42:51 1996 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 07:35:46 -0700 Message-Id: <199604101435.HAA20432@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: RE: Sighting on Santo Bugito Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Candi has also worked with Tress MacNeill on the CD-ROM "Full Throttle". > On Monday I noticed that the credits at the end of "Metal Urgency" (my >favorite ep.) contained quite a bit of talent.. Gary Owens, Mark Hamill, >as well as the other usuals. Anyone have an idea how much $$ was spent >on voice actors? As far as I know, they have to get paid a basic scale, but of course the "names" like Alaskey, Cummings, Paulsen, Gordon et al get the big bucks. I don't have any figures available, but for an example of how much these guys cost, check out the woeful tale of "Lt. Feral"; Gary Owens. Owens had worked for H-B for years (the original "Space Ghost" for openers), and though a voice-for-hire like many others, he made enough of a living over the years to spend some of his free time doing charity appearances and some promotional stuff for Turner gratis. Turner was in the process of reviving "Space Ghost" in a new format, and rather than cast Gary back in his old role - as everyone took as a "given" - they inexplicably told him his services were no longer required, and "Space Ghost Coast-to-Coast" was handed to another actor. Turnerco, in the press, stated that Gary wasn't suitable for the new gig because he was based in L.A., and the new series was to be voiced in Atlanta. Sounds good on the surface, but the Atlanta operation is designed to be cheaper - and non-union - whereas Gary doesn't fall easily into either category. Besides, he wouldn't have been the *first* voice actor to lay down tracks in one city for use in another. Just like everything they're doing lately, Messr. Owens was a casualty of the drive to create as much product as possible for the least outlay. 'Course, how does one put a price-tag on all the pro-bono stuff that Gary was doing for them? (Hopefully they'll patch things up for any revival of the 'Kats or a movie deal. Can you even _imagine_ someone else as our beloved Lieutenant?) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 11:10:14 1996 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 07:42:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199604101442.HAA20601@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Harvey, Archie and Turner - the unholy trinity of comicdom... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA! He laughed maniacally [sp?] >> >WHO KAREZ? IFF EWE KAN UNDARSTAND WHATT THU PERSUN MEENS 2 SAY, THUN THARE'Z >NO PROBLIM! Let's try to keep these things on topic too, huh? Yes, "let's try and keep these things on topic...". Guys 'n' gals, please don't post stuff like this to 70 mailboxes! It's more appropriate in e-mail if you don't want to append something kats-related to the bottom somewhere for the rest of us to read. ...and remember, when you go to Hell? The guy who invented the CAPS LOCK key will be there to greet you (insert evil smiley here). _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 14:29:17 1996 From: louallen.wheeler@fatal.com (Louallen Wheeler) Subject: WWW via e-mail Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 19:03:08 GMT Message-Id: <96041011054835724@fatal.com> Organization: FATAL ERROR |(916)365-7456/6104 | Redding, Ca. To: kats@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hey, for all you peoples who are deprived like me and can't run/afford the WWW, there is a way to get WWW pages via e-mail... Just send a messege to this address agora@info.lanic.utexas.edu and in the body put something like this... send http://t-w-i.com or send http://redgreen.com etc... if I'm right, it will only pay attention to the first three lines in the messege... Bored at 3:00 A.M.; PSST? Got a modem? Jedi Louie.... From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 17:10:17 1996 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 16:51:26 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: SWAT Kats animation art, more thereof In-Reply-To: <199604090449.VAA27559@unix.infoserve.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Mook-HanHo thing You said they might be only releasing the HanHo art, and the Mook was "rumorously, or possibly" destroyed? Yippe! My cel is a Mook one. Ask the Tremblays if they have any left. (Just imagining the worth of my cel shooting up the chart with that big red line.... :)) A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 18:04:48 1996 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 16:27:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199604102127.QAA00727@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Voice actors. X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I like "Metal Urgency" too, the only thing that bothered me is that blur thing. Metal Urgency . . . hmmmm . . . my favorite *first* season. >>Anyone have an idea how much $$ was spent on voice actors? > >Yeah, I always wanted to know that too, how much do they get paid anyway? Yes, please tell. ('Cause that's what I wanna be when I grow up. Which means in ten years or so . . . ) I wanna be a voice-actress! (I have been told by friends and teachers that I should be in drama, but I can't 'cause I'm in orchestra.) Does anyone wonder about musical instruments in the 'Kats world? (Like me?) Terra Chang SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes -------------------------------- "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the universe was in their hands. Then I ask myself, 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 18:28:21 1996 From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: "'Kats list'" Subject: RE: Sighting on Santo Bugito Date: Thu, 04 Apr 96 12:53:00 PDT Message-ID: <316C5AF0@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 53 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>favorite ep.) contained quite a bit of talent.. Gary Owens, Mark Hamill, >>as well as the other usuals. Anyone have an idea how much $$ was spent >>on voice actors? >As far as I know, they have to get paid a basic scale, but of course the >"names" like Alaskey, Cummings, Paulsen, Gordon et al get the big bucks. I kinda figured there'd be a minimum amount of pay for any kind of "acting" service. For instance, Robin Williams took only scale pay for the work he did in Aladdin; but from what I hear wanted to do it for nothin'. Disney couldn't _not_ pay him because of the trouble they'd be in with the union. (Yes, a bit off topic, but can someone confirm this?) > don't have any figures available, but for an example of how much these guys [...] >took as a "given" - they inexplicably told him his services were no longer >required, and "Space Ghost Coast-to-Coast" was handed to another actor. I remember quite a bit of discussion over this on rec.arts.animation. If I were Mr. Owens, I'd be rightly p.o.'d. Seems like TurnerCo would have Gary under a contract and use him whenever there was a need. Common sense says it's cheaper to pay a guy under contract for his services than it would be to pay the contract wages AND hire another voice actor. Of course, common sense doesn't seem to apply whenever TPS is involved... >Just like everything they're doing lately, Messr. Owens was a casualty of the >drive to create as much product as possible for the least outlay. 'Course, >how does one put a price-tag on all the pro-bono stuff that Gary was doing for >them? ARRRGGHH! It just doesn't make any sense! You'd think that no one at TPS has ever heard the saying "You get what you pay for." If you want a quality product with which you can make tons o' cash, you need to spend money to get the quality product. They seem to be following the business advice of the Yugo manufacturers. "Let's see... We'll build something as cheap as we possibly can no matter what level of quality & people will buy into it anyway because they're stupid." *sigh* *Rant mode off* -Matt mweb@mich.com mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us http://www.mich.com/~mweb From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 19:09:08 1996 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 17:32:42 -0400 Message-Id: <199604102132.RAA11859@ns.halifax.com> X-Sender: buford@halifax.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: buford@halifax.com (Brother Buford) Subject: Merchandise we'd like to see... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Merchandise I'd like to see... this is just an idea, but I think it'd be cool Swat Kats Chess Set ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ White side: King: Mayor Manx Queen: Callie Briggs Bishops: T-Bone & Razor Knights: Feral & Felina Rooks: TurboKat & Enforcer Tank Pawns: Enforcers Black Side: King: Dark Kat Queen: Pastmaster Bishops: Hard Drive & Dr. Viper Knights: the Metallikats Rooks: one of Viper's creations & tower of Pastmaster's castle Pawns: creeplings (I know there are more villains, but I'm kinda partial to the ones I have listed) Brother Buford From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 19:28:02 1996 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:49:58 EDT From: XXRJ13C@prodigy.com ( DJ CLAWSON) X-Mailer: PRODIGY Services Company Internet mailer [PIM 3.2-085.43] Message-Id: <096.05661433.XXRJ13C@prodigy.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Need help with subscription Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Sorry to send this to the list, but I lost the address for help. I have a new address aside from my P* one. I would like to work through that one because no big shot company can charge me for plus time every time I go in my e-mailbox that way! Is there a way to change my subscription without unscribing through my prodigy ID and then resubscribing with my new ID? I am now availabe at: djclawson@garden.net I will still be available through XXRJ13C@prodigy.com, but please try the new one if you can. Thanks a lot! Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 19:33:08 1996 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604102252.AA42448@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: What "blur" thing? To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 17:52:57 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 763 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > I like "Metal Urgency" too, the only thing that bothered me is that blur thing From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 19:37:37 1996 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604102257.AA107228@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: SWAT Kats animation art, more thereof To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 17:57:04 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: from "ARTHUR JOHN FREDA" at Apr 10, 96 04:51:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 831 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >Mook-HanHo thing > > You said they might be only releasing the HanHo art, and the Mook was > "rumorously, or possibly" destroyed? Yippe! My cel is a Mook one. Ask the > Tremblays if they have any left. (Just imagining the worth of my cel > shooting up the chart with that big red line.... :)) > > A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please Just out of (desperate) curiousity, A.J., what cel do you have? By that I mean what ep is it from, and if possible, could you specify down to the frame? |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 21:59:31 1996 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 21:35:13 -0400 Message-ID: <960410213504_373117123@emout04.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Sighting on...a World Premier Toon? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>Candi Milo, I think. She's one of the voice artists that I've kept an >ear >>>open for, but never seems to get any gigs. The fact I missed her >>>on "Santo Bugito" is...um....not surprising. > >>She played Thundra the Rainbird in two (three?) eps of "Aladdin" as >>well. I *think* I heard the voice of that old lady kat (the one who always gets her car towed) on one of the WPTs (I don't know the name). In "Pizza Boy" she was the lady eskimo. It took me 'til the end of the short to place the voice; but, oh well... Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa Anne Deja Vu! The date of April 20th is now fast approaching! (Jump Forrest...Jump!!!) BTW- For all those who might care, I started "Watership Down" yesterday, and am finished half (yes, half!). Excellent book! From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 22:16:18 1996 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 18:52:17 -0700 Message-Id: <199604110152.SAA26045@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: SWAT Kats animation art, more thereof Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Mook-HanHo thing > >You said they might be only releasing the HanHo art, and the Mook was >"rumorously, or possibly" destroyed? Yippe! My cel is a Mook one. Please take this in the spirt in which it is intended, but..um....you make me sick. ;) Chances are (no pun intended) that a number of the Mook ones were culled to decorate the offices of certain people, or as promotional gifts or some junk, and that's where the T's got hold of the one for you. S'good news though - at least it means they weren't *all* torched (if indeed any of 'em have). _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 10 22:38:36 1996 Date: Wed, 10 Apr 1996 19:03:32 -0700 Message-Id: <199604110203.TAA27259@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Voice Actors etc... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Matt Wrote: >I remember quite a bit of discussion over this on rec.arts.animation. If >I were Mr. Owens, I'd be rightly p.o.'d. Seems like TurnerCo would have >Gary under a contract and use him whenever there was a need. Common >sense says it's cheaper to pay a guy under contract for his services than >it would be to pay the contract wages AND hire another voice actor. Of >course, common sense doesn't seem to apply whenever TPS is involved... They did something that at least makes *business* sense in their dealings with voice actors. Ep. 24 had the tracks laid down when Tedco ordered the series halted, but inexplicably they had Barry Gordon and Charlie Adler et al lay down the tracks for 25 and 26 even though they had no intention of finishing them. Couldn't figure that one out until someone told me something about SAG contracts WRT voice-work: Adler and Gordon had a "pay-or-play" kinda contract for the entire second-season run, and would've been paid whether or not they laid the tracks. Nice work if you can get it. Dunno what kind of contract Owens had, but I guess he didn't have much to do once the Kats were grounded, and letting him go must've looked like an irresistable financial carrot to one of the TPS bean-counters. >"Let's see... We'll build something >as cheap as we possibly can no matter what level of quality & people will >buy into it anyway because they're stupid." *sigh* Funny cartoons are cheaper than ac/adv, funny shorts are cheaper than funny series, so let's do cheap, funny shorts. Well, they got the "cheap" and "shorts" part right! _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 11 01:00:41 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 11:25:01 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: What "blur" thing? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Watch "Metal Urgency" again and you will know what I mean. ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya Starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 11 02:33:51 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:12:28 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Season One <-> Season Two Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net What will happen if all season one's stories become season two episodes, and all season two's story become season one episodes? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya Starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 11 02:48:36 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:12:44 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Music in the kats world. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Does anyone wonder about musical instruments in the 'Kats world? (Like me?) Well, I always wanted to know if the kats do can sing. Then again, it maybe better to left that topic alone. BTW, ever played "Alley Cat", Terra? >Terra Chang >SWAT Kats lover >Anne Rice fan ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya Starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 11 02:58:44 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:12:33 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Merchandise we'd like to see... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Merchandise I'd like to see... > >this is just an idea, but I think it'd be cool > >Swat Kats Chess Set >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Well, I usualy keep lose track of all my chess set, how about a Battle chess SWAT Kats computer game instead (So that the only thing that I can lose is only the disk.) ? just like the one Star Wars have. >White side: > >King: Mayor Manx >Queen: Callie Briggs >Bishops: T-Bone & Razor >Knights: Feral & Felina >Rooks: TurboKat & Enforcer Tank >Pawns: Enforcers Well, here's how I view it: King & Queen: You already know Knights: Who else? Sir Razor & Sir T-Bone of course Bishops: Doc. Conway & Proffesor Hackle Rooks: Feral & Felina Pawns: Generic Enforcer >Black Side: > >King: Dark Kat >Queen: Pastmaster The Pastmaster as a Queen??? I think that Turmoil is much better choice for a Queen. >Bishops: Hard Drive & Dr. Viper Bishops: Dr. Viper & Dr. Street >Knights: the Metallikats Knights: Dark T-Bone & Dark Razor >Rooks: one of Viper's creations & tower of Pastmaster's castle Rooks: The Metallikats >Pawns: creeplings Pawns: Dr. Viper's creatures, Creeplings, etc >(I know there are more villains, but I'm kinda partial to >the ones I have listed) > >Brother Buford ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya Starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 11 05:28:47 1996 X-Sender: duehara@pop.ben2.ucla.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 02:08:53 -0800 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Yeah, there's no subject this time. So sue me... it's 1:45 am (local time) as I write this and I can't think of anything witty for a subject title. On spelling errors: netiquette generally dictates that spelling errors should be taken to PRIVATE EMAIL and not dragged through the list. This also applies to the net; if you ignore this and spell-flame someone on the net, don't expect any sympathy should you be eaten alive. OK, enough on the off-topic stuff. Back to the Kats: Edo queries: >What will happen if all season one's stories become season two episodes >and all season two's story become season one episodes? Umm, how do you mean? In terms of continuity, or in terms of when they were aired? As far as continuity goes, I'd say "Katastrophe" (season 1 finale) would have been the final episode because three villains (Dark Kat, Doctor Viper and the Metallikats) evidently die ("if I lose, everyone loses!"). We also know that "The Deadly Pyramid" most likely comes, continuity-wise, *after* "Bride of the Pastmaster" because in "Deadly..." the Pastmaster notes that Callie looks like Queen Callista, whom he said spurned his advances (which we see in "Bride...") On a Kats chess set: I'm a little surprised nobody even mentioned Madkat as one of the pieces. I don't know which he'd be, but I have a feeling he'd fit right in. chance comments: > Chances are (no pun intended) that a number of the Mook ones were culled > to decorate the offices of certain people, or as promotional gifts or some > junk, and that's where the T's got hold of the one for you. S'good news > though - at least it means they weren't *all* torched (if indeed any of > 'em have). Out of curiosity, are there any press kits available for the Kats? (Yeah, I know this is a rather long shot, but it's worth asking, in any event...) Edo, not to pick on you, but if you mention something like a "blur thing" in an ep like "Metal Urgency" (which, btw, just aired on the Cartoon Network), it'd really help if you mentioned perhaps a specific scene or event during the ep where it occurs (even *one* scene would be helpful). It makes it a lot easier for me (and I'm sure others) to go through the episode to locate what you're talking about. BTW, what works for the goose works just as well for the gander... if I happen to mention something in an ep that you don't recognize, don't hesitate to ask for details BTW2, speaking of the Cartoon Network: Tuesday's ep was "Enter the Madkat" while Wednesday's was "Katastrophe." Anyone willing to bet that Thursday's ep will be (or was, for those on the digest, like me ;-) "Mutation City"? And no, I'm not placing money on this. Till later... -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia "Some Kats have higher standards, ya know..." -- Jake (while watching David Litterbin) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 11 11:36:57 1996 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 07:56:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199604111456.HAA00388@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: What "blur" thing? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Watch "Metal Urgency" again and you will know what I mean. Ummm...seen the thing a few times, and I honestly can't imagine what you could be referring to. Could you be a bit more specific, or is it perhaps that your Katseps are a bit out-of-focus in the Kingdom of Id? (or, conversely, maybe the international version of the Kitties had Brian May's guitar riffs replaced by "Blur"?) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 11 13:50:18 1996 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 13:20:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199604111720.NAA14234@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Kat Musical Instruments. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Terra Chang wrote: >Does anyone wonder about musical instruments in the 'Kats world? (Like me?) Yeah! Are they microtonal (like cats sing)? I bet that they don't use Katgut for strings (yeah, yeah... I know they're sheeps guts- BTW: do you know why gut strings are called catgut? Hint- it's a nautical reason.) Would they prefer instruments that can slide in pitch- fiddle, slide guitar, dobro, theramin, frettless bass to get that "Katty" sound? The music in the ScairdyKat cartoons sounds pretty standard, but then maybe comedy-toon music is the same throughout the universe. Paul Kemner From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 11 18:06:37 1996 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604112127.AA77490@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Razor's unnamed mail To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 16:27:00 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: from "Razor" at Apr 11, 96 02:08:53 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 4078 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Yeah, there's no subject this time. So sue me... it's 1:45 am (local time) > as I write this and I can't think of anything witty for a subject title. Nor can I ;-> > Edo queries: > >What will happen if all season one's stories become season two episodes > >and all season two's story become season one episodes? > > Umm, how do you mean? In terms of continuity, or in terms of when they I think I know what Edo's getting at. I say it wouldn't work for the mentioned continuity glitches. > were aired? As far as continuity goes, I'd say "Katastrophe" (season 1 > finale) would have been the final episode because three villains (Dark Kat, > Doctor Viper and the Metallikats) evidently die ("if I lose, everyone However the villians have been shown to endure some mighty powerful explosions. Doctor Viper made it through the destruction of the labs (another timeline landmark, or were they rebuilt soon afterward?), Hard Drive survived a bazooka blast (But he was a bunch of electrons at the time of the detonation.) It appears that explosions are really only deadly when it jives with the plot. But I'd say that the explosion in Katastrophe was meant to be the fatal kind in which case the part about the villians dying could work, but the fact that the SWAT Kats have the TurboKat rebuilt in When Stikes Mutilor puts a monkey wrench in that idea. What would be a fairly big continuity glitch is the season ][ Glovatrix design, but then again the Doctor Viper origin episode predates all of the second season and much of the first, but that design is still there. Boy, do we ever need a precision timeline here. > loses!"). We also know that "The Deadly Pyramid" most likely comes, > continuity-wise, *after* "Bride of the Pastmaster" because in "Deadly..." > the Pastmaster notes that Callie looks like Queen Callista, whom he said > spurned his advances (which we see in "Bride...") But the Pastmaster timeline is so convoluted already that it's not that serious a glitch. > On a Kats chess set: I'm a little surprised nobody even mentioned Madkat > as one of the pieces. I don't know which he'd be, but I have a feeling > he'd fit right in. Yep. And the squares should be red and blue. Perhaps the game could incorporate all the characters by allowing the players to choose the pieces? It could get confusing if you let it, but it'd be more fun that way. > chance comments: > > Chances are (no pun intended) that a number of the Mook ones were culled > > to decorate the offices of certain people, or as promotional gifts or some > > junk, and that's where the T's got hold of the one for you. S'good news Does this mean they told someone in Japan "We want you to get a dozen of the cels and ship 'em, but don't dare send any more than that."? I'm not an expert, but I'd think if any made it over, then tons more might be available. > > though - at least it means they weren't *all* torched (if indeed any of > > 'em have). I've also been curious as to the treatment of animation art in Japan. On the one hand I'm thinking they love it and probably respect it and treat the cels well, and other the other hand they crank out so much that they might not be able to keep all of it, so the foreign materials, not matter how good they might look would get tossed out first. Anyone know more about this, cuz I'm about the most opposite of an expert as there ever was. > BTW2, speaking of the Cartoon Network: Tuesday's ep was "Enter the Madkat" > while Wednesday's was "Katastrophe." Anyone willing to bet that Thursday's > ep will be (or was, for those on the digest, like me ;-) "Mutation City"? At least you can *get* TCN. =-< > =================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 11 18:07:10 1996 From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: "'Kats list'" Subject: RE: 4 villians die (was: nothin') Date: Thu, 04 Apr 96 16:34:00 PDT Message-ID: <316DA168@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 20 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Dana wrote: >Umm, how do you mean? In terms of continuity, or in terms of when they >were aired? As far as continuity goes, I'd say "Katastrophe" (season 1 >finale) would have been the final episode because three villains (Dark Kat, >Doctor Viper and the Metallikats) evidently die ("if I lose, everyone >loses!"). We also know that "The Deadly Pyramid" most likely comes, I'd have to take exception to the 4 villians dying in "Katastrophe". The Metallikats can take quite a beating before being injured enough to actually be "dead". They were in the worst shape I've seen at the end of "Metal Urgency", and Feral still had to use the Neural Neutralizer. Dark Kat has never been hurt and only captured once (as far as I can remember). Dr. V isn't as tough as the others, IMO. I think he may have been seriously injured in "Katastrophe". Remember, they were all in a forcefield when the shack exploded. (Yeah, I know the forcefield only lets things in & not out.. but hey...) -Matt mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us + mweb@mich.com From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 11 21:32:58 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 08:09:37 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: A reply to Razor's reply. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Yeah, there's no subject this time. So sue me... it's 1:45 am (local time) >as I write this and I can't think of anything witty for a subject title. No wonder I received this at 17:45 (My local time). >OK, enough on the off-topic stuff. Back to the Kats: > >Edo queries: >>What will happen if all season one's stories become season two episodes >>and all season two's story become season one episodes? > >Umm, how do you mean? In terms of continuity, or in terms of when they >were aired? I mean, what will happen if some characteristic (Animation, characters, music, etc.) from the second season was used on the first season episodes, and vice versa. >On a Kats chess set: I'm a little surprised nobody even mentioned Madkat >as one of the pieces. I don't know which he'd be, but I have a feeling >he'd fit right in. Does anybody here got a picture of Madkat? Razor wrote: >it'd really help if you mentioned perhaps a specific scene or >event during the ep where it occurs. Hmmm, every scene where there is blast and explosion on it. I think that most of the blur scenes I was refering to, happen after the Metallikats was de-headed. >Till later... > >-- >=================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== > Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia >"Some Kats have higher standards, ya know..." -- Jake (while watching > David Litterbin) ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya Starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 11 23:48:08 1996 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604120333.AA87014@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: What'd they do with those voice tracks anyway? To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 22:33:18 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199604110203.TAA27259@unix.infoserve.net> from "chance" at Apr 10, 96 07:03:32 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 858 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > with voice actors. Ep. 24 had the tracks laid down when Tedco ordered > the series halted, but inexplicably they had Barry Gordon and Charlie Adler > et al lay down the tracks for 25 and 26 even though they had no intention So what happens to those things if they're never used? Are they just kept in a dank archive cellar at H-B to never be heard by fans, or what? And are the tracks complete at that stage, or are they still in need of Music, SFX, and maybe fine tuning of voice acting? I *really* wanna know. (And I'd love to hear 'em too.) |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 12 02:12:05 1996 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 22:57:20 -0700 Message-Id: <199604120557.WAA12881@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: B-ko Daitokuji Subject: Re: Music in the kats world. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Does anyone wonder about musical instruments in the 'Kats world? (Like me?) Yeah. What kind of music DO they listen to. I can't figure out what kind of music the SWAT Kats like (I just hope it's not sonething I hate!!) > >Well, I always wanted to know if the kats do can sing. Then again, it maybe better to left that topic alone. I think it would be funny to hear the SWAT Kats sing!! LA!!! |^) > >BTW, ever played "Alley Cat", Terra? I played a CGA version for the PC. It was fun, but when I tried to run it om my pc, I couldn't! Oh well. Gave me room for more kats stuff. [Just a couple a' hoops for the road!!! -Fran Drescha] ______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan, Japanimation extremist, Whatever. "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." "Abmnesia. One thing leads to another, and..... you know nothing." ______________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 12 02:56:41 1996 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 01:42:57 -0500 Message-Id: <9604120642.AA117680@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> X-Sender: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: "Kevin L. Knoles" Subject: Re: What "blur" thing? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 05:52 PM 4/10/96 -0500, you wrote: >> I like "Metal Urgency" too, the only thing that bothered me is that blur thing I could swore that I wrote a follow-up to this and sent it, but when it arrived in my mailbox it was all gone save the quoted text. Wierd. What I said was something along the lines of: Do you mean the filter shots? I happened to like them myself, as it added a bit of realism to the explosions and gave them that "You are there" effect. Those types of FX also only appear in Mook episodes too, another visual mark over Hanho in my book. Same thing could be said about the mutiplane shots, those added some real dimension (literally) for further enhancement. Since both of these things are present in Mook episodes and not the Hanho ones, does that mean that they were done by the studios and not originally intended in the eps, written into the storyboards or scripts? Something similar could be said about Hanho's fuzzy white inking of the TurboKat, which I didn't like *at*all*, made it look like it was made of cotton. Kevin L. Knoles From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 12 04:41:39 1996 X-Sender: duehara@pop.ben2.ucla.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 01:17:08 -0800 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: Stuff for Megakat City Salvage Yard... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net ... or, in other words, junk. ;-) Thursday's ep was, as it turned out, "A Bright & Shiny Future." But I have a feeling that "Mutation City" isn't far behind, so I expect it to air sometime within the next few days. In any event, a few comments on the last digest: Edo clarifies his comment on switching the season 1 and season 2 episodes: > I mean, what will happen if some characteristic (Animation, characters, > music, etc.) from the second season was used on the first season episodes, > and vice versa. Well, with respect to the music, you'd probably get differing opinions. I've had several people tell me that they liked the season 1 music better than the season 2 music, while a few have told me the opposite. As far as the animation sequences go, season 2 definitely tops season 1, especially in the anime-like scenes where T-Bone and (especially!) Razor suit up. The big difference in terms of the characters between season 1 and season 2 is that Felina Feral replaces Steel(e); otherwise, the main characters remain the same. (Then again, you've got one-shot appearances by characters like Turmoil and Dr. Street, who would have reappeared had more episodes been made.) I once commented to someone at ConFurence 6 (I believe his name is Malachi Keller, who I assume worked on some part of the series since he *did* have some sort of artwork on display which looked VERY much on-model) about the quality of Mook's animation versus Hanho Heung-Up's. I thought HHU at the time did a much better job of drawing the Kats on-model than Mook (and we're talking only season 1 here), but I had not thought about how the characters themselves were initially drawn. Although I never saw a set of the *initial* drawings, I believe that the Kats themselves underwent a change in drawing style during the first season (sort of like what happened to Garfield -- compare some of his cartoons from when he was first drawn, back in 1978, to now). Edo also queries: > Does anybody here got a picture of Madkat? I don't, but I'm sure anyone with a video capture board could probably get one and put it on the FTP site (hint, hint...) -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia "Once an inventor, always an inventor..." -- Professor Hackle From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 12 05:26:46 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 16:11:00 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: What "blur" thing? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At Fri, 12 Apr 1996, Kevin L. Knoles wrote: > Do you mean the filter shots? Yep, it was the filter shots. >I happened to like them myself, as it >added a bit of realism to the explosions and gave them that "You are there" >effect. Yeah, but why do they have to use so many of them? >Kevin L. Knoles ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "I don't know why they called it a mouse, if you can't chase it, it's no mouse to me." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 12 05:39:01 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 16:11:07 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Music in the kats world. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>Does anyone wonder about musical instruments in the 'Kats world? > >Yeah. What kind of music DO they listen to. I can't figure out what >kind of music the SWAT Kats like (I just hope it's not sonething I >hate!!) Well, one thing for sure, they love to Rock'n'Roll. >>Well, I always wanted to know if the kats do can sing. Then again, it >>maybe better to left that topic alone. > >I think it would be funny to hear the SWAT Kats sing!! LA!!! |^) The question is, will we survived? >>BTW, ever played "Alley Cat"? > >I played a CGA version for the PC. It was fun, but when I tried to run it om >my pc, I couldn't! Oh well. Gave me room for more kats stuff. [Just a couple >a' hoops for the road!!! -Fran Drescha] Well, I was talking about the music, not the game. But you're right, it was fun! Chasing mouse, avoiding dogs, finding your love and have kittens, etc. About kats stuff, it's scary, I just downloaded all the pictures from the images directory. >______________________________________________________ >Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley >SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan, Japanimation extremist, Whatever. >______________________________________________________ ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "I don't know why they called it a mouse, if you can't chase it, it's no mouse to me." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 12 10:34:28 1996 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 07:14:44 -0700 Message-Id: <199604121414.HAA02117@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: What'd they do with those voice tracks anyway? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> with voice actors. Ep. 24 had the tracks laid down when Tedco ordered >> the series halted, but inexplicably they had Barry Gordon and Charlie Adler >> et al lay down the tracks for 25 and 26 even though they had no intention > > So what happens to those things if they're never used? Are they just kept >in a dank archive cellar at H-B to never be heard by fans, or what? And are >the tracks complete at that stage, or are they still in need of Music, SFX, and >maybe fine tuning of voice acting? I *really* wanna know. (And I'd love to >hear 'em too.) Christian said that they score completed footage returning from overseas, so the incomplete eps won't have progressed that far. I think everyone does it a bit differently, but the usual order of battle sends the completed script to be voiced and boarded at roughly the same time. Although they had to pay the voice artists regardless of whether they laid tracks or not, I doubt the same held true for the storyboard artists, and yet Tedco had the 'boards completed anyway. In other words, they've got the "show packs" for each of the last three eps, all the voice tracks laid, and all the storyboard material completed awaiting shipment to Mook. Forever. (with scoring, animation, and animation retakes/ADR - you'd figure it would cost them a maximum of, what...200K per ep or so? Sounds like a deal to me. It would have the effect of turning so many dust-magnets into something they could recover their investment from). _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 12 16:34:17 1996 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 13:00:45 -0700 Message-Id: <199604122000.NAA00866@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Julie Kelley Subject: Re: Music in the kats world. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Well, one thing for sure, they love to Rock'n'Roll. > I just hope it isn't 1979 A.D. - 1979 B.C. Rock'n'Roll!! >>>Well, I always wanted to know if the kats do can sing. Then again, it >>>maybe better to left that topic alone. >> >>I think it would be funny to hear the SWAT Kats sing!! LA!!! |^) > >The question is, will we survived? Yeah. Chance is probably so tone deaf that we'd die just hearing it!! (Tha's bad, since I try to find every peice of SWAT Kats stuff ever made, a peice of fantastic art [But this??? Can you imagine? =8^) ]) > >>>BTW, ever played "Alley Cat"? >> >>I played a CGA version for the PC. It was fun, but when I tried to run it om >>my pc, I couldn't! Oh well. Gave me room for more kats stuff. [Just a couple >>a' hoops for the road!!! -Fran Drescha] > >Well, I was talking about the music, not the game. But you're right, it was fun! Chasing mouse, avoiding dogs, finding your love and have kittens, etc. Yeah! Nothing to do with SWAT Kats, though. =8^( I've never heard "Alley Cat". Whatzit like? > >About kats stuff, it's scary, I just downloaded all the pictures from the images directory. > Something more scary is not having enough space for all your Kats stuff. I'm going through that now. I hope America Online gives me another Free Start up Disk soon (They make great kats storage!!) >"I don't know why they called it a mouse, if you can't chase it, it's no mouse to me." > Anoter quote is "Is that your mouse you're holding, or are you just exited to see me?" (Picture insert of Felina here =8^)) ______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan, Japanimation extremist, Whatever. "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." "Abmnesia. One thing leads to another, and..... you know nothing." ______________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 12 18:12:52 1996 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 16:52:35 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199604122152.QAA23881@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Music in the kats world. X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Does anyone wonder about musical instruments in the 'Kats world? (Like me?) > >Well, I always wanted to know if the kats do can sing. Then again, it maybe better to left that topic alone. I can sing. I've been told I should be in drama/choir (and Amy says that the teachers of each would fight for me, whatever that means) but I'm in orchestra. (Violin.) Another crazy idea: We form a band and become world-famous, spread 'Kats popularity everywhere, and then MOB TED TURNER, TIE HIM TO A CHAIR, AND TAKE OVER TURNER, AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY, BRING OUR FAV. TV SHOW BACK!!!!!!!!!!!! >BTW, ever played "Alley Cat", Terra? Huh? Whazzat? (Answer your question? ) >------------------------------------- >Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id >"See ya Starside!" > > > Terra Chang SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes -------------------------------- "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the universe was in their hands. Then I ask myself, 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 12 22:19:52 1996 X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 09:10:13 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Music in the kats world. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Fri, 12 Apr 1996, Julia Kelley wrote: >>Well, one thing for sure, they love to Rock'n'Roll. >> >I just hope it isn't 1979 A.D. - 1979 B.C. Rock'n'Roll!! Why? >>>>BTW, ever played "Alley Cat"? > >Yeah! Nothing to do with SWAT Kats, though. =8^( I've never heard "Alley >Cat". Whatzit like? Well, an alley cat is: 1. A type of cat that usualy hang out in an alley or street. (Hence the name alley.) 2. A fun game that I used to played. 3. A fun music. I have MIDI of it, do you want to listen to it? 4. Feral! >>"I don't know why they called it a mouse, if you can't chase it, it's no >>mouse to me." > >Anoter quote is "Is that your mouse you're holding, or are you just exited >to see me?" (Picture insert of Felina here =8^)) Here's another one. "Is that a blaster in your paw, or are you just glad to see me?" >______________________________________________________ >Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley >SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan, Japanimation extremist, Whatever. >______________________________________________________ ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "I don't know why they called it a mouse, if you can't chase it, it's no mouse to me." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 12 23:04:49 1996 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 19:57:05 -0700 Message-Id: <199604130257.TAA09797@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Stuff for Megakat City Salvage Yard... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I once commented to someone at ConFurence 6 (I believe his name is Malachi >Keller, who I assume worked on some part of the series since he *did* have >some sort of artwork on display which looked VERY much on-model) about the >quality of Mook's animation versus Hanho Heung-Up's. Ah, yes...Malachi Keller. He went on a tour of Hanna-Barbera with another friend courtesy of the Tremblay bros, and was trying to break in to the animation business. Even at *that* time (just after the Northridge quake), he had with him a marvelous portfolio of various anime beauties, and brought some Kats pencil art to show Christian. The whole gang trouped around the studio and met Davis Doi, Bodie Chandler, Alison Leopold etc, then went over to (I think) Comicon. From what I saw of Mal's stuff, he's a damn fine artist. Even Christian looked at his artwork and asked him why he wasn't *already* working in the biz. Mal answered that he did test for Carl Macek at Streamline, but really wanted to work on something he *liked* -- "SwatKats". At the time they'd done everything but post on Kats season two, and there was nothing they could've assigned Mal even if Christian pulled a string or two. I dunno what he's up to now. I thought HHU at the >time did a much better job of drawing the Kats on-model than Mook (and >we're talking only season 1 here), but I had not thought about how the >characters themselves were initially drawn. Although I never saw a set of >the *initial* drawings, Those of us that have the "Animato!" article and the "Toon" one will have a ready reference as to what the kitties started out H-B life as. On the first page of Mark's article, you see a very funny looking Razor and T-Bone from about waist-up, and posed in that kind of "ta-da!" pose that the marketeers adore. The "Toon" article has a line drawing of the two Kat guys running towards our POV, and their drawn in much the same fashion as the "Animato!" pic. T-Bone looks much simplified and even sorta cutesified in my pre-HB promo poster - as does the TK. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 13 01:07:42 1996 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 21:56:13 -0700 Message-Id: <199604130456.VAA01882@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Music in the kats world. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I can sing. I've been told I should be in drama/choir (and Amy says that the >teachers of each would fight for me, whatever that means) but I'm in >orchestra. (Violin.) Well, don't take it too bad. Everyone wants me to be an actor. I want to be a novelist or script writer (things could look bright in the future =8^) ) >Another crazy idea: We form a band and become world-famous, spread 'Kats >popularity everywhere, and then MOB TED TURNER, TIE HIM TO A CHAIR, AND TAKE >OVER TURNER, AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY, BRING OUR FAV. TV SHOW BACK!!!!!!!!!!!! But if we can't, there will be trubutes to him galore!! (my tributes say how nice people and things are, but the people and things I write tributes for usually don't have anything nice about them!!) > >>BTW, ever played "Alley Cat", Terra? > >Huh? Whazzat? (Answer your question? ) > Hey, c'mon! I don't need this! >"I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." No, but Mr. Hollahan LIVES in his closet in his classroom! I swear it's got all the essentials of living in that thing!! >"I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the universe was in their >hands. Then I ask myself, 'How the heck did we survive?'" > "After all is done, after all is said, (Insert SWAT Kat character here) is in my heart. After all is done, after all is said, I'll never stop lovong you!" ______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Megafan, anime fan, Japanimation extremist, Whatever. "Without the world of Imortality at our sides, we would be nothing." "Abmnesia. One thing leads to another, and..... you know nothing." ______________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 13 10:47:30 1996 Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 10:49:45 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: SWAT Kats animation art, more thereof In-Reply-To: <9604102257.AA107228@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Wed, 10 Apr 1996, Kevin L. Knoles wrote: > Just out of (desperate) curiousity, A.J., what cel do you have? By that I > mean what ep is it from, and if possible, could you specify down to the frame? Ok, I'll try. In the December Cristian's Kat Contest, I won 1st prize, and the Tremblays sent me a cel from "Metal Urgency" where T-Bone and Razor were giving thumbs up and saying "Yes" after destroying Feral's new tank. I can't give you the exact frame #, but this might help: Since the background is penciled and not inked like the characters, there is a bunch of mumbo-jumbo in some spots, that may be Japanese writing, but near the top, it says this: There is a #12 in the left hand upper corner, and in the right hand upper corner, it looks like (-45) I hope that helps, and oh yeah, when you were talking about SWAT Kat's music and turning up the speakers and mentioned the jet scene in "Night of the Dark Kat", I have now recorded a WAV file of it. It is 16 bits at 44Khz mono. I will try to get it to rat as soon as my other server allows internet mail and attachments. If you have one of those Dolby Surround 3d Sound Processor thingys for you computer, does that take a mono file and make it 3d stereo? I don't have one, and I'd like to know. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 13 11:08:22 1996 Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 11:02:04 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: What'd they do with those voice tracks anyway? In-Reply-To: <199604121414.HAA02117@unix.infoserve.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net hmmm. Maybe if I could find a couple of good kats artists, we could make the three eps., and we'd each work on one frame for one month, perfecting it, etc. Ok, so maybe it'l take a century!!! A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 13 11:20:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA00475 for kats-ll; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 11:01:04 -0400 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA00470 for ; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 11:01:01 -0400 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA15485; Sat, 13 Apr 1996 11:07:12 -0400 Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 11:07:11 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Music in the kats world. In-Reply-To: <199604122152.QAA23881@natashya.eden.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Fri, 12 Apr 1996, Kay Chang wrote: > Another crazy idea: We form a band and become world-famous, spread 'Kats > popularity everywhere, and then MOB TED TURNER, TIE HIM TO A CHAIR, AND TAKE > OVER TURNER, AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY, BRING OUR FAV. TV SHOW BACK!!!!!!!!!!!! Don't forget that lighting a fire under ted and doing a tomahawk dance. :) A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 13 11:32:16 1996 Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 10:53:37 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Season One <-> Season Two In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Thu, 11 Apr 1996, Edo Andromedo wrote: > What will happen if all season one's stories become season two episodes, and all season two's story become season one episodes? > eek! No! I don't want the 2nd Season to be animated my HanHo, but the 1st seasons that hanho did would look great if done by mook, compare the flash back in "Deadly Piramid" and "Bride of the Pastmaster". Mook could have done very well on that ep. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 13 17:24:52 1996 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604132110.AA93202@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Stuff for Megakat City Salvage Yard... To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 16:10:58 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199604130257.TAA09797@unix.infoserve.net> from "chance" at Apr 12, 96 07:57:05 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1779 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Those of us that have the "Animato!" article and the "Toon" one will have a re ady > reference as to what the kitties started out H-B life as. On the first page o f Mark's > article, you see a very funny looking Razor and T-Bone from about waist-up, an d > posed in that kind of "ta-da!" pose that the marketeers adore. The "Toon" art icle > has a line drawing of the two Kat guys running towards our POV, and their > drawn in much the same fashion as the "Animato!" pic. T-Bone looks much > simplified and even sorta cutesified in my pre-HB promo poster - as does the > TK. This really gets at something about SWAT Kats, that there are two basic potential directions that the series was capable of going in - The all too typically H-B style where ultra toony monochromed kats scamper like Fred Flintstone to cheesy sound effects, or the gritty, hard edged, more graphic, more "radical" kats who absolutely crackle with style in every frame. I tend to prefer the latter to the former. SWAT Kats as it stands has, interestingly enough, gone a little ways in each direction in a comfortable amalgam. Examples? The Kats are drawn a little rounder, a little more toony than usual in The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice, but in the same episode the Megasaurus Rex attack scenes were ckock full of the hard edge look. The Deadly Pyramid had some Razor looking especially diminutive, but it also feautured some of the most stunning action the series had to offer, all IMO. |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 13 19:02:17 1996 Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 15:59:05 -0700 Message-Id: <199604132259.PAA15524@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: What'd they do with those voice tracks anyway? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >hmmm. Maybe if I could find a couple of good kats artists, we could make >the three eps., and we'd each work on one frame for one month, perfecting >it, etc. Ok, so maybe it'l take a century!!! Cool...twice as fast as Fondacom! _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 13 19:11:45 1996 Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 15:59:08 -0700 Message-Id: <199604132259.PAA15527@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Stuff for Megakat City Salvage Yard... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > This really gets at something about SWAT Kats, that there are two >basic potential directions that the series was capable of going in - The all >too typically H-B style where ultra toony monochromed kats scamper like Fred >Flintstone to cheesy sound effects, or the gritty, hard edged, more graphic, >more "radical" kats who absolutely crackle with style in every frame. I tend >to prefer the latter to the former. SWAT Kats as it stands has, interestingly >enough, gone a little ways in each direction in a comfortable amalgam. >Examples? The Kats are drawn a little rounder, a little more toony than usual >in The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice, but in the same episode the Megasaurus >Rex attack scenes were ckock full of the hard edge look. The Deadly Pyramid >had some Razor looking especially diminutive, but it also feautured some >of the most stunning action the series had to offer, all IMO. When I was posting all the katstuff to rec.arts.animation that kinda got me in trouble, I had an argument with someone who was a knowledgeable animation fan, but dismissed the Kats as "just more toy-driven action-adventure drek" (or similar). This individual and I had words back and forth over the issue, then we had this lapse of several months. Out of the blue, this Kats detractor e-mails me with "I just saw 'Deadly Pyramid'. Forget anything nasty I ever said about 'SwatKats'". Also, (and I know this person won't mind an innocuous quote) it seems that certain production people realized they'd created something head-and-shoulders above the "ultra toony monochromed" stuff H-B was infamous for: "No matter what happened to SWAT Kats later on, what we did will probably be remembered for quite a while." I doubt the same could be said for any of the WPT's. (P.S. don't e-mail and ask who the quote is from please. I can't answer.) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 13 23:01:32 1996 X-Sender: djclawson@garden.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Subject: Jake/Hackle Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 22:50:13 -0400 Message-ID: <19960414025012578.AAA225@pb-ppp04.garden.net> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I just thought I'd bring this up again because of something I noticed. I've expressed this before: in all my fanfic, Hackle is Jake's father. I really don't see why the writers didn't see the connection. They're both genuises, they both design weapons (well, one did when he was younger) and they both have trademark sideburns that no one else in the show has (or should have) the honor of bearing. Anyway, I was watching "A Bright and Shiny Future" yesterday and I couldn't help but noticing this. In the future, where Hackle is somehow still alive and his beard is SOMEHOW yellow (I guess they couldn't make it any whiter than it already was), there's a scene after Cally and Manx are taken in the van-thing where Razor and Hackle have some dialogue (when he says, "Once an inventor, always an inventor"). Now of course it's not exactly father-son, but you'll notice if you watch it again that the coloring of their fur is almost exactly the same shade. One of the things I definitely like about Mook is he uses a different color for Razor (except in "SKs Unplugged). Razor has more tanish, mellow colored fur with Mook, especially in the second season. Orange is nice, but not always that realistic. In "Bright and Shiny" which had some of the best Mook stuff (aside from "Deadly Pyramid obviously, but that was a different style), diffenitely let their similarites shine through. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 14 00:37:15 1996 Date: Sat, 13 Apr 1996 21:28:10 -0700 Message-Id: <199604140428.VAA29754@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Jake/Hackle Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I just thought I'd bring this up again because of something I noticed. > I've expressed this before: in all my fanfic, Hackle is Jake's father. I >really don't see why the writers didn't see the connection. They're both >genuises, they both design weapons (well, one did when he was younger) and >they both have trademark sideburns that no one else in the show has (or >should have) the honor of bearing. Wait...Razor has *sideburns*??! Who knew? Honestly, I've looked at the dude pretty closely on a couple of eps, and can't recall anything smacking of Elvis - young or old. Canya give us a hint as to what scene(s) you might be a-thinkin' of? ("Just trim the fur Floyd, and don't touch the sideburns. Thankya...thankya verra much..") ..guess the medication's wearing off... _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 14 14:48:43 1996 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604141832.AA92768@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Stuff for Megakat City Salvage Yard... To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 13:32:26 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199604132259.PAA15527@unix.infoserve.net> from "chance" at Apr 13, 96 03:59:08 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2490 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > When I was posting all the katstuff to rec.arts.animation that kinda got me > in trouble, I had an argument with someone who was a knowledgeable What kind of trouble? > animation fan, but dismissed the Kats as "just more toy-driven > action-adventure drek" (or similar). This individual and I had words back Yeah, about as Toy-driven as Star Trek. > and forth over the issue, then we had this lapse of several months. Out of > the blue, this Kats detractor e-mails me with "I just saw 'Deadly Pyramid'. > Forget anything nasty I ever said about 'SwatKats'". I not only remember that follow-up, but I'm the one who made the post that started it (Yeah, more bragging.) I think it was back before I ever posted to the list or even saved my mail. I said some things about SK's being better than many folks may realize with the thinking being that some may have been judging the series as a whole on the basis of a their solitary veiwing of The Giant Bacteria, or judging the animation on the basis of Hanho's worst work. The post was rough, but it got my points across, one of which was that Mook's aniamtion was spectacular, without an equal on TV. In the follow-up, the poster argued that - get this - Baby Huey and The Tick had better animation. I countered and I think that was the end of it on the usenet. Chance was kind enough to tell me of that E-mail via snail mail, but I seem to recall the episode that that person saw was Mutation City, not TDP. Just out of curiousity, which was it? > Also, (and I know this person won't mind an innocuous quote) it seems that > certain production people realized they'd created something head-and-shoulders > above the "ultra toony monochromed" stuff H-B was infamous for: > > "No matter what happened to SWAT Kats later on, what we did will probably be > remembered for quite a while." Yep, SWAT Kats may be cancelled, but the show has been imortalized as the best thing H-B has done, action-adventure or otherwise. > I doubt the same could be said for any of the WPT's. > > (P.S. don't e-mail and ask who the quote is from please. I can't answer.) And I say in a musical tone "I know who it is" =-> |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 14 15:24:15 1996 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 12:14:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199604141914.MAA27393@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Stuff for Megakat City Salvage Yard... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> When I was posting all the katstuff to rec.arts.animation that kinda got me >> in trouble, I had an argument with someone who was a knowledgeable > > What kind of trouble? Some of those posts caused someone to be summoned to Atlanta to explain how product/show info was being disseminated on Internet, and caused an internal witch-hunt to determine who was responsible as it "wasn't their job". In short, the news about the tapes and merchandise did an "end run" around those charged with PR (you mean they *have* people in charge of Kats PR?), and it caused a few people some uncomfortable moments under bright lights. So, I stopped putting product info up on rec.arts (if temporarily). > In the follow-up, >the poster argued that - get this - Baby Huey and The Tick had better >animation. I countered and I think that was the end of it on the usenet. Yeah, but the poster's basically cool. She has friends in Spumco who have friends at Carbunkle, so it's fairly easy to see where objectivity gives way to loyalty. > Chance was kind enough to tell me of that E-mail via snail mail, but I seem >to recall the episode that that person saw was Mutation City, not TDP. Just >out of curiousity, which was it? Hmm. Now you've got me thinking. It may well have been "Mutation", and I can't get to my backups to check. > Yep, SWAT Kats may be cancelled, but the show has been imortalized as the >best thing H-B has done, action-adventure or otherwise. > >> I doubt the same could be said for any of the WPT's. >> >> (P.S. don't e-mail and ask who the quote is from please. I can't answer.) > > And I say in a musical tone "I know who it is" =-> "kay, but everyone maybe keep guesses to themselves or point-to-point e-mail, okay? Cool. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 14 15:36:19 1996 X-Sender: djclawson@garden.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Subject: Re: Jake/Hackle Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 15:26:45 -0400 Message-ID: <19960414192644524.AAA229@pb-ppp11.garden.net> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 09:28 PM 4/13/96 -0700, you wrote: >>I just thought I'd bring this up again because of something I noticed. >> I've expressed this before: in all my fanfic, Hackle is Jake's father. I >>really don't see why the writers didn't see the connection. They're both >>genuises, they both design weapons (well, one did when he was younger) and >>they both have trademark sideburns that no one else in the show has (or >>should have) the honor of bearing. > >Wait...Razor has *sideburns*??! Who knew? Honestly, I've looked at the >dude pretty closely on a couple of eps, and can't recall anything smacking >of Elvis - young or old. > When I say sideburns, I mean the fur on the sides of his head that sticks out. Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 14 20:35:27 1996 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 17:27:33 -0700 Message-Id: <199604150027.RAA21565@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Ted stuff. Was Re: Music in the kats world. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >> Another crazy idea: We form a band and become world-famous, spread 'Kats >> popularity everywhere, and then MOB TED TURNER, TIE HIM TO A CHAIR, AND TAKE >> OVER TURNER, AND, MOST IMPORTANTLY, BRING OUR FAV. TV SHOW BACK!!!!!!!!!!!! > >Don't forget that lighting a fire under ted and doing a tomahawk dance. :) Or tossing him into the local incenerator, or the local live vulcano. What about just letting him almost starve to death, say an order of fries once a week (To keep his misery running to the fullest!!) ((^3 _______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Always have something in your lunch box to trade with" -The Great One _______________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 14 20:50:26 1996 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 17:30:53 -0700 Message-Id: <199604150030.RAA21688@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: What'd they do with those voice tracks anyway? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>hmmm. Maybe if I could find a couple of good kats artists, we could make >>the three eps., and we'd each work on one frame for one month, perfecting >>it, etc. Ok, so maybe it'l take a century!!! > >Cool...twice as fast as Fondacom! Well, at least it's SOMETHING! Mabye if we saved our money for a few hundred years, we could have the last eps sent over to Mook and we could take all the credit (Yeah! and I'm the QUEEN of England! Oh well.... My ideas never work!) _______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Always have something in your lunch box to trade with" -The Great One _______________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 14 20:58:33 1996 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 17:38:38 -0700 Message-Id: <199604150038.RAA21938@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Jake/Hackle Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I just thought I'd bring this up again because of something I noticed. > I've expressed this before: in all my fanfic, Hackle is Jake's father. Yeah. Now I see that the two characters slightly resemble each other. I see where you get that aspect. > I >really don't see why the writers didn't see the connection. They're both >genuises, they both design weapons (well, one did when he was younger) and >they both have trademark sideburns that no one else in the show has (or >should have) the honor of bearing. > Well, I never found Hakle's character all that intriguing. He seemed to be just.... there! Mabye the Tremblay brothers meant to make something more out of this kat that seems to be just.... there. I think it's possable. The show is so advanced, that they MUST have had the kats concept going on for AT LEAST five years (That's my guess) and probably even longer. Who knows? _______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Always have something in your lunch box to trade with" -The Great One _______________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 14 21:13:21 1996 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 17:46:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199604150046.RAA22177@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Jake/Hackle Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>I just thought I'd bring this up again because of something I noticed. >> I've expressed this before: in all my fanfic, Hackle is Jake's father. I >>really don't see why the writers didn't see the connection. They're both >>genuises, they both design weapons (well, one did when he was younger) and >>they both have trademark sideburns that no one else in the show has (or >>should have) the honor of bearing. > >Wait...Razor has *sideburns*??! Who knew? Honestly, I've looked at the >dude pretty closely on a couple of eps, and can't recall anything smacking >of Elvis - young or old. > What I think he means is that Jake'd basic facial design is similar to that of most American animated cartoons. They all have this basic stereortypical pionts at the sides of their faces, usually thought as the side of their face. Both Jake and Hakle do have this almost rectangle face when you include these "sideburns" as part of their face as a whole. (Sorry, I think in basic abstract shapes!) >Canya give us a hint as to what scene(s) you might be a-thinkin' of? > If I'm right, just look at near any schene on SWAT Kats! >("Just trim the fur Floyd, and don't touch the sideburns. Thankya...thankya verra much..") > Acting like me? Oh great! My "extremist disease" is conteigious (however spelt!) >..guess the medication's wearing off... See! What did I tell ya! ((^3 _______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Always have something in your lunch box to trade with" -The Great One _______________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 14 21:50:35 1996 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 18:38:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199604150138.SAA13652@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: BOUNCE kats: if the add isn't subscribed, you can't post, guys! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net This is from A.J., quite likely using up his free "Amerika On-Hold" diskette: >From: RazorSKat@aol.com Clever name, A.J. >Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA15267 for kats@lists.mv.net; Sun, 14 Apr 1996 18:49:24 -0400 >Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 18:49:24 -0400 >Message-ID: <960414184923_513606128@emout07.mail.aol.com> >To: kats@bort.mv.net >Subject: SWAT Kats: There are more fans than you think!!! > >hmm. aol has been messing up mail and sending it as im typing it. oh well: > > I just recently entered my drawing of the cel i recieved into an >art contest. (You've seen it, Terra. :-)) It didn't win, but at the >reception, there were a lot a little kids coming up to my picture and saying, >"Look, mommy! SWAT Kats!!!". > > Hmm. Maybe Ted doesn't know about all these "little fanatics". > > Which comes to my request: I'm going to work on another for next >years contest, could anyone get me a 8 1/2 x 11" or larger print of a screen >grab of the anim blur part in 2nd season opening, or the part where Razor >says: "Mini Cement Launchers" from Bright and Shiny....."? I need a big >picture so I can study it, and I dont have a color printer to print out a >screen grab. If you can do this, e-me at ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us and I'll >give you my snail mail address. > > > _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 14 22:02:19 1996 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 18:50:17 -0700 Message-Id: <199604150150.SAA14035@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: What'd they do with those voice tracks anyway? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>hmmm. Maybe if I could find a couple of good kats artists, we could make >>>the three eps., and we'd each work on one frame for one month, perfecting >>>it, etc. Ok, so maybe it'l take a century!!! >> >>Cool...twice as fast as Fondacom! >Well, at least it's SOMETHING! Mabye if we saved our money for a few hundred >years, we could have the last eps sent over to Mook and we could take all >the credit (Yeah! and I'm the QUEEN of England! Oh well.... My ideas never >work!) You're a Queen? (Never mind...I don't really want to know) It seems to me that they wouldn't have gone through all the trouble to get at least *that* far with the eps unless they had at least the faintest glimmer of intent towards eventually animating them. Maybe Ted will fall in love with *good* animation again once the Olympics, and "Iggy", are over and done with. (Hey, No.Cal kids get a *huge* allowance, don't they? Maybe three of you could save your arcade money for a week and pay to complete at least "Curse of Kataluna", huh?. ) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 14 23:18:07 1996 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 23:09:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Ratman To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: fan fiction section moved Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net this is just a quick annoucement. Max has agreed to take over the Kats fan fiction section of my site. The address is now http://maxie.com/pub/swatkats/stories/ or FTP to the same location. Additions should be put in ftp://maxie.com/incoming From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 14 23:39:16 1996 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 20:22:05 -0700 Message-Id: <199604150322.UAA26728@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: anime background Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> Which comes to my request: I'm going to work on another for next >>years contest, could anyone get me a 8 1/2 x 11" or larger print of a screen >>grab of the anim blur part in 2nd season opening, or the part where Razor >>says: "Mini Cement Launchers" from Bright and Shiny....."? I need a big >>picture so I can study it, and I dont have a color printer to print out a >>screen grab. If you can do this, e-me at ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us and I'll >>give you my snail mail address. >> Hmmmm....... I've had some experiance doing this. For black and whiute drawings, you basically scribble parallel lines for the background. For color, however, I'd reccomend artist supplies and something where you can really mix colors. Another way could be the black and white way, and then color each of the spaces in the lines a different color. I saw this method in a Street Fighter manga. For stills, it looks pretty cool. Hopefully this could help you a little, but since I can't capture television frames on my computer, I can't help you any more than this. _______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Always have something in your lunch box to trade with" -The Great One _______________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 14 23:50:08 1996 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 20:29:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199604150329.UAA26950@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: What'd they do with those voice tracks anyway? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>>hmmm. Maybe if I could find a couple of good kats artists, we could make >>>>the three eps., and we'd each work on one frame for one month, perfecting >>>>it, etc. Ok, so maybe it'l take a century!!! >>> >>>Cool...twice as fast as Fondacom! >>Well, at least it's SOMETHING! Mabye if we saved our money for a few hundred >>years, we could have the last eps sent over to Mook and we could take all >>the credit (Yeah! and I'm the QUEEN of England! Oh well.... My ideas never >>work!) > >You're a Queen? (Never mind...I don't really want to know) > Well, I'd need a sex change, then I'd have to be some mastermind to get into such a position (How did I know that someone would comment on my queen thing!) >It seems to me that they wouldn't have gone through all the trouble to get >at least *that* far with the eps unless they had at least the faintest glimmer >of intent towards eventually animating them. Maybe Ted will fall in love >with *good* animation again once the Olympics, and "Iggy", are over and >done with. > But let's not get our hopes up. Don't want anyone else on this list to have shattered nerves. (Beleive me, it SUCKS!) >(Hey, No.Cal kids get a *huge* allowance, don't they? Nope. We get lunch money and we skimp on that. a few of us (like me) lie about how much we need for school. Currently, I get ten bucks a week. Everyone says I'm spoiled. Does it show? I didn't think so! Maybe three of you > could save your arcade money for a week and pay to complete at least > "Curse of Kataluna", huh?. ) Dream on, sleeping beauty (Oh wait! That's Razor! Sorry!!)! Mabye in a year, three of us can go buy a coke! (I'm saving for later use!) _______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Always have something in your lunch box to trade with" -The Great One _______________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 15 01:34:52 1996 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 22:28:24 -0700 Message-Id: <199604150528.WAA25070@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Underdog does it again: Forwarded bounce from Max Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: fan fiction section moved At 11:09 PM 4/14/96 -0400, you wrote: >this is just a quick annoucement. > >Max has agreed to take over the Kats fan fiction section of my site. > >The address is now http://maxie.com/pub/swatkats/stories/ >or FTP to the same location. > >Additions should be put in ftp://maxie.com/incoming Just replying to this to announce the change is complete. When someone does add a story, please drop me an e-mail (max@maxie.com) so i know who sent it and can move it the story directory. Thanks! Max _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 15 02:51:35 1996 From: louallen.wheeler@fatal.com (Louallen Wheeler) Subject: stuph Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 03:51:49 GMT Message-Id: <96041421025936014@fatal.com> Organization: FATAL ERROR |(916)365-7456/6104 | Redding, Ca. To: kats@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I just started getting the swing-wing mechanics for the plain birds-i-view of the TurboKat done. I now need some model sheets of the TurboKat with front, back, sides, top, and bottom views. Once I got those, I can then do the body of the TurboKat, and can finish... If you can snail-mail me them, here's my addresse... LouAllen Wheeler 21949 Old 44 Dr. Palo Cedro, CA. 96073 This messege from the crappiest computer around Dinner late: (A)bort; (R)etry; (P)izza Me? Indecisive? No! What do YOU think? Jedi Master Wheeler... From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 15 03:06:30 1996 Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 23:35:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199604150635.XAA00193@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: This is why I earn the big bucks, I guess..."forward" redux.. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net **From Max@maxie.com courtesy of Megakat Postal Service** ("delivery guaranteed in three days or less, or your mail's late") Subject: Fan fiction section moved correction Sorry Kats, I told Ratman the wrong address and just caught it. The correct one is www.maxie.com/pub/swatkats/stories, by either HTTP or FTP. Submissions FTP://www.maxie.com/incoming, and drop me an e-mail so I know I can post it. Thanks, Max _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 15 10:50:09 1996 Message-Id: <1.5.4b13.32.19960415143759.006738e8@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: wkoziol@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4b13 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 10:37:59 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Walter Koziol Subject: Re: SWAT Kats animation art, more thereof Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I hope that helps, and oh yeah, when you were talking about SWAT Kat's music and turning up the speakers and mentioned the jet scene in "Night of the Dark Kat", I have now recorded a WAV file of it. It is 16 bits at 44Khz mono. I will try to get it to rat as soon as my other server allows internet mail and attachments. If you have one of those Dolby Surround 3d Sound Processor thingys for you computer, does that take a mono file and make it 3d stereo? I don't have one, and I'd like to know. Doesn't anybody still reccord in stereo any more? :) I have noticed that all the files thats on the Rat's FTP site and WEB site are in mono. I'll reccord it around 20mhz in 16-bit stereo. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 15 17:54:33 1996 From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: "'Kats list'" Subject: RE: SWAT Kats animation art, more thereof Date: Fri, 05 Apr 96 07:06:00 PDT Message-ID: <3172E3A5@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 13 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Doesn't anybody still reccord in stereo any more? :) I have noticed that One of the reasons behind this is that although TCN & TBS may broadcast in stereo, the vast majority of cable operators don't deem in necessary to send it to you the same way. Stereo video modulators are a lot more expensive then the mono versions. Another reason is the file size. Look at the size of a stereo file, then convert it to mono and see the big difference. -Matt From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 15 18:01:30 1996 From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: "'Kats list'" Subject: RE: What'd they do with those voice tracks anyway? Date: Fri, 05 Apr 96 07:10:00 PDT Message-ID: <3172E47E@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 12 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >hmmm. Maybe if I could find a couple of good kats artists, we could make >the three eps., and we'd each work on one frame for one month, perfecting >it, etc. Ok, so maybe it'l take a century!!! Saaaayyy.. that's not a bad idea.. It might make for a good summer-time project.. Anyone wanna help? -Matt From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 15 19:17:27 1996 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 18:31:09 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: stuph In-Reply-To: <96041421025936014@fatal.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Mon, 15 Apr 1996, Louallen Wheeler wrote: > I just started getting the swing-wing mechanics for the plain > birds-i-view of the TurboKat done. I now need some model sheets of the > TurboKat with front, back, sides, top, and bottom views. Once I got > those, I can then do the body of the TurboKat, and can finish... > If you can snail-mail me them, here's my addresse... Oooh! I remember talking about this last year on the list, and Chance said he had something like that, say Chance, can ya send me a copy too? Here's my address: A.J. Freda 527 W. 11th St. Traverse City, MI 49684 Thanx! A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 15 19:22:55 1996 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 18:25:55 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: What'd they do with those voice tracks anyway? In-Reply-To: <199604150030.RAA21688@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sun, 14 Apr 1996, Ryan Kelley wrote: > Well, at least it's SOMETHING! Mabye if we saved our money for a few hundred > years, we could have the last eps sent over to Mook and we could take all > the credit (Yeah! and I'm the QUEEN of England! Oh well.... My ideas never > work!) Hmmm.....Maybe if i can get at least one of the scripts for it, i could make a comic book, or i could animate it, maybe, 12-15fps max, with some good shading, too. (I shade like Mook). Or, I could animate via computer. (Anyone know of an animation program with 640x480 res. or higher with 256 colors or more, where you can draw your own characters???) A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 15 21:42:05 1996 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 1996 18:11:11 -0700 Message-Id: <199604160111.SAA14653@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: stuph Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >On Mon, 15 Apr 1996, Louallen Wheeler wrote: > >> I just started getting the swing-wing mechanics for the plain >> birds-i-view of the TurboKat done. I now need some model sheets of the >> TurboKat with front, back, sides, top, and bottom views. Once I got >> those, I can then do the body of the TurboKat, and can finish... >> If you can snail-mail me them, here's my addresse... > >Oooh! I remember talking about this last year on the list, and Chance >said he had something like that, say Chance, can ya send me a copy too? >Here's my address: > >A.J. Freda >527 W. 11th St. >Traverse City, MI 49684 Um..I kinda sent it all to Matt Weber for scanning, but I could copy 'em and oblige once I get 'em back (if they aren't available for download from rat.org by then). _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 09:45:45 1996 From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: "'Kats list'" Subject: RE: stuph Date: Fri, 05 Apr 96 12:20:00 PDT Message-ID: <3173C23C@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 11 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Um..I kinda sent it all to Matt Weber for scanning, but I could copy 'em and >oblige once I get 'em back (if they aren't available for download from rat.org >by then). Ok, you should start seeing them at the end of this week after my finals. -Matt From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 16:17:23 1996 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 15:44:52 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: "'Kats list'" Subject: RE: What'd they do with those voice tracks anyway? In-Reply-To: <3172E47E@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Fri, 5 Apr 1996, Matthew O. Weber wrote: > > >hmmm. Maybe if I could find a couple of good kats artists, we could make > > >the three eps., and we'd each work on one frame for one month, > perfecting > >it, etc. Ok, so maybe it'l take a century!!! > > Saaaayyy.. that's not a bad idea.. > It might make for a good summer-time project.. > Anyone wanna help? > > -Matt > I'd LOVE to help!!! Are you good at villains? All I can draw is the SKats and the Pastmaster and some of dark kat. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 16:30:26 1996 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 15:43:23 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: "'Kats list'" Subject: RE: SWAT Kats animation art, more thereof In-Reply-To: <3172E3A5@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Fri, 5 Apr 1996, Matthew O. Weber wrote: > > >Doesn't anybody still reccord in stereo any more? :) I have noticed > that > > One of the reasons behind this is that although TCN & TBS may broadcast > in stereo, the vast majority of cable operators don't deem in necessary > to send it to you the same way. Stereo video modulators are a lot more > expensive then the mono versions. > > Another reason is the file size. Look at the size of a stereo file, then > convert it to mono and see the big difference. But if you are recording from the pre-recorded videos tapes, go ahead and record in stereo. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 19:38:47 1996 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 18:05:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199604162305.SAA04798@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Underdog does it again: Forwarded bounce from Max X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Additions should be put in ftp://maxie.com/incoming Ooooo! there could be a problem with that, guys. I CAN'T SEND STUFF FTP WISE!!! I cannot do this sorta stuff, my computer won't let me. NOT GOOD, NOT GOOD, NOT GOOD, NOT GOOD!!!!! Maxie, is there any other way people (such as I) can send you fanfics? Please? Pretty, pretty please? Or, is there anybody out there on the list who can take pity on me and let me send the story to them, and then let them send it? (Kinda like DJ and Ryan for "Children of the Stone"? PLease?????????? Much appreaction would come from this end!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Does anybody mind if I decided to rant at the Rat for this--if I don't really mean it? ) >Just replying to this to announce the change is complete. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >When someone does add a story, please drop me an e-mail (max@maxie.com) so i >know who sent it and can move it the story directory. Thanks! > > Max Max, Max, Max . . . HELP ME HERE, SOMEBODY!!!!!!!! 'Kay, I'll calm down now. (But not much.) Please, if ANYONE here can help me with this, I'd much appreciate it. And I don't mind if you read the story before sending it. Terra Chang SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "I dunno . . . I kinda figured teachers slept in coffins all summer." --Calvin & Hobbes -------------------------------- "I tell myself that not long ago the fate of the universe was in their hands. Then I ask myself, 'How the heck did we survive?'" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 21:16:26 1996 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 20:53:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199604170053.UAA23231@underdog.maxie.com> X-Sender: max@underdog.maxie.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Max Subject: Re: Underdog does it again: Forwarded bounce from Max Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 06:05 PM 4/16/96 -0500, you wrote: >>>Additions should be put in ftp://maxie.com/incoming > >Ooooo! there could be a problem with that, guys. I CAN'T SEND >STUFF FTP WISE!!! I cannot do this sorta stuff, my computer won't let me. No problem, e-mail it to me at: max@maxie.com, you attach it or just embed it in the message. Should've mentioned that before, sorry! Nax From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Tue Apr 16 21:55:51 1996 Date: Tue, 16 Apr 1996 18:39:00 -0700 Message-Id: <199604170139.SAA18179@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Correction: please read me! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>When I was posting all the katstuff to rec.arts.animation that kinda got me >>in trouble, I had an argument with someone who was a knowledgeable >>animation fan, but dismissed the Kats as "just more toy-driven >>action-adventure drek" (or similar). This individual and I had words back >>and forth over the issue, then we had this lapse of several months. Out of >>the blue, this Kats detractor e-mails me with "I just saw 'Deadly Pyramid'. >>Forget anything nasty I ever said about 'SwatKats'". Please read above, then below.....then waaaay at the bottom! >>Also, (and I know this person won't mind an innocuous quote) it seems that >>certain production people realized they'd created something head-and-shoulders >>above the "ultra toony monochromed" stuff H-B was infamous for: >> >>"No matter what happened to SWAT Kats later on, what we did will probably be >>remembered for quite a while." Hmm. Upon re-reading this post, it occurs to me that the individual responsible for the first set of "toy driven action-adventure drek" comments could also be seen as the same person responsible for the "No matter what happened..." quote. NOT. Nope. Nada. No Way. *COMPLETELY DIFFERENT* people related only by the fact they live on the same planet. Sorry for the confusion (if any). The line-up to spank me silly forms outside. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 17 15:16:17 1996 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604171838.AA76988@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Favorite episodes? To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 13:38:23 -0500 (CDT) In-Reply-To: <199604170139.SAA18179@unix.infoserve.net> from "chance" at Apr 16, 96 06:39:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1241 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > seen as the same person responsible for the "No matter what happened..." > quote. NOT. Nope. Nada. No Way. *COMPLETELY DIFFERENT* people > related only by the fact they live on the same planet. > > Sorry for the confusion (if any). The line-up to spank me silly forms outside From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 17 21:26:42 1996 Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:48:58 -0700 Message-Id: <199604180048.RAA25283@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: SKIQ: You actually might get to see it! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Cartoon Network tells me that yes, they've found the long-lost "Katseye News Special Report/SKIQ" episode, and are currently evaluating whether or not it's a worthwhile addition to the rotation. Those of us that get TCN and wish to express an opinion on the matter might want to write them at "toonnet@aol.com". _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 17 22:46:52 1996 From: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) Message-Id: <9604180215.AA119934@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Subject: Re: Favorite episodes? To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 21:15:28 -0500 (CDT) Cc: klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Kevin L. Knoles) In-Reply-To: <9604171838.AA76988@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> from "Kevin L. Knoles" at Apr 17, 96 01:38:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 915 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > > seen as the same person responsible for the "No matter what happened..." > > quote. NOT. Nope. Nada. No Way. *COMPLETELY DIFFERENT* people > > related only by the fact they live on the same planet. Aargh, my message got wiped *again*! I have no idea what happened this time. I said something about not begin confused at all by Chance's statement, so don't worry about it and then sugggested we start a favorite episodes thread. Mine's The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice 'cuz it really takes on an epic theme in moments, what I consider the series at its best. Anyone else care to name their faves? |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| | | | | \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Wed Apr 17 23:13:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA12241 for kats-ll; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:57:29 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA12236 for ; Wed, 17 Apr 1996 22:57:23 -0400 Received: from [202.154.6.168] (dyn1168a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.168]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id JAA15901 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 09:57:12 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 09:55:46 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Favorite episodes? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Huh? ------------------------------------- Edo Andromedo email : macsonic@rad.net.id "See ya starside!" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 11:22:45 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA06107 for kats-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 10:44:51 -0400 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA06100 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 10:44:46 -0400 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d145.infoserve.net [199.175.157.145]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA28622 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 07:44:54 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 07:44:54 -0700 Message-Id: <199604181444.HAA28622@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: More on the unfinished eps... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Okay guys, I got some more info on the unfinished eps. It seems that the decision to track and board "Curse of Kataluna", "Doctors of Doom" and "Turmoil II: The Revenge" was made more or less unilaterally by one of the execs who was trying to cover all the bases should the show need to go back into production in a hurry (well, that, and a lot of folks over there felt badly about simply cutting all the crews loose so abruptly through no fault of their own). The idea was to have something ready to be shipped overseas at short notice, and something that reflected the quality work of the old crew before they were scattered to the four winds due to Katlayoffs. At least it shows that a couple of someones were thinking clearly over there. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 21:07:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA26905 for kats-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 20:58:15 -0400 Received: from Fox.nstn.ca (fox.nstn.ca [137.186.128.12]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA26900 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 20:58:10 -0400 Received: from ts1-12.hfx.iSTAR.ca (ts1-12.hfx.iSTAR.ca [137.186.7.32]) by Fox.nstn.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA18613 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:57:27 -0300 (ADT) Message-Id: <199604190057.VAA18613@Fox.nstn.ca> From: "Erin O'Connell" To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:55:40 -0400 Subject: Re: Favorite episodes? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Oh, that one's easy: Razor's Edge. My main problem with SK (when it was on) was that I don't regularly get TBS, so I know I missed some episodes - or I only saw 'em once-so I have fewer to choose from. Help! I'm suffering from SwatKats withdrawal! Erin From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Thu Apr 18 21:53:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA28736 for kats-ll; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:28:12 -0400 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA28726 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 21:27:54 -0400 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d164.infoserve.net [199.175.157.164]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA01730 for ; Thu, 18 Apr 1996 18:25:28 -0700 Date: Thu, 18 Apr 1996 18:25:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199604190125.SAA01730@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Favorite episodes? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Oh, that one's easy: Razor's Edge. My main problem with SK (when it was >on) was that I don't regularly get TBS, so I know I missed some episodes - >or I only saw 'em once-so I have fewer to choose from. Yep, same here. I couldn't afford the premium services (that's "Pay Cable" to those of us that have to open our wallets), and developed a high opinion of the series based on a measly three first season eps that I caught in Dec. 1993. I had to survive with only those (and various attempts at watching them scrambled) until the next free preview sometime in August of '94, and swore to get myself a "little satellite dish" to ensure an uninterrupted flow of future seasons. I finally got around to making inquiries about getting said 'dish' in late '94, only to hear that Tedco canceled the damn program the month before. Grr. I owe a great deal to States' friends for sending me the eps I was missing (i.e., most of them), and despite watching the same 24 over-and-over-and-over, I haven't been able to pick a favourite. >Help! I'm suffering from SwatKats withdrawal! Ain't we all? _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 20:32:25 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA13602 for kats-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 20:05:56 -0400 Received: from Fox.nstn.ca (fox.nstn.ca [137.186.128.12]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA13591 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 20:05:50 -0400 Received: from ts5-05.hfx.iSTAR.ca (ts5-05.hfx.iSTAR.ca [137.186.7.105]) by Fox.nstn.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA29713 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:05:46 -0300 (ADT) Message-Id: <199604200005.VAA29713@Fox.nstn.ca> From: "Erin O'Connell" To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:03:50 -0400 Subject: Re: Favorite episodes? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Anybody know of any Canadian stores that would carry the videos? I've looked around a bit (K-Marts, Walmarts, Mini-marts.....) but I've found only one of the three videos - and I already own that one! Has anyone played the SNES game? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 21:15:45 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA17263 for kats-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 20:56:07 -0400 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com (emout12.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.38]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA17258 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 20:56:04 -0400 From: LtFFeral@aol.com Received: by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA12727 for kats@bort.mv.net; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 20:55:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 20:55:33 -0400 Message-ID: <960419205533_517836130@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Favorite episodes? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > I said something about not begin confused at all by Chance's statement, so >don't worry about it and then sugggested we start a favorite episodes thread. >Mine's The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice 'cuz it really takes on an epic >theme >in moments, what I consider the series at its best. Anyone else care to name >their faves? Hmm...um...My favorite has to be "Mutation City"; But "Bright and Shiny Future" finishes a close second. Lt FFeral@aol.com Melissa Anne / Ann Phibian TOMORROW IS APRIL 20TH! AAAHHHHH! JUMP FORREST, JUMP!!! "Use the energy; but not the image." > |\ __ /| Kevin L. Knoles klknole@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu |\ __ /| > | | | | > \ / Check out SWAT Kats on the Web: \ / > \/ http://rat.org/kats \/ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 21:51:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA18475 for kats-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:38:23 -0400 Received: from sioux.sodak.net (root@sioux.sodak.net [205.164.184.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA18470 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:38:21 -0400 Received: from sioux.sodak.net ([205.164.184.215]) by sioux.sodak.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA09813 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 20:43:08 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 20:43:08 -0500 Message-Id: <199604200143.UAA09813@sioux.sodak.net> X-Sender: fuller@sioux X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: fuller@sioux.sodak.net (Frank Fuller) Subject: Re: Favorite episodes? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net IMHO, one of the best, if not the absolute best, has got to be Razor's Edge. Just for note. Frank Fuller fuller@sioux.sodak.net Proud to be a Swat Kats fan at nearly 22 :) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 22:11:54 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA18418 for kats-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:36:01 -0400 Received: from sioux.sodak.net (root@sioux.sodak.net [205.164.184.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA18407 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:35:58 -0400 Received: from sioux.sodak.net ([205.164.184.215]) by sioux.sodak.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA09705 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 20:40:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 20:40:41 -0500 Message-Id: <199604200140.UAA09705@sioux.sodak.net> X-Sender: fuller@sioux X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: fuller@sioux.sodak.net (Frank Fuller) Subject: Just a little nitpicking... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I just watched The Origin of Dr. Viper, and noticed a serious nitpick in it. Did anyone else notice that they used 2nd season equipment in this episode? Considering the episode, the events in it were pre-1st season. Yet they used the jet pack and the more advanced 2nd season Glovatrix... That, IMHO, is a serious error, and is a very noticable one. Frank Fuller fuller@sioux.sodak.net Proud to be a Swat Kats fan at nearly 22 :) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Fri Apr 19 22:59:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA22395 for kats-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 22:37:54 -0400 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA22390 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 22:37:52 -0400 Received: from net-2-085.austin.eden.com (net-2-085.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.85]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id VAA16625 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:37:39 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:37:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199604200237.VAA16625@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Just a little nitpicking... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I just watched The Origin of Dr. Viper, and noticed a serious nitpick in it. >Did anyone else notice that they used 2nd season equipment in this episode? >Considering the episode, the events in it were pre-1st season. Yet they used >the jet pack and the more advanced 2nd season Glovatrix... That, IMHO, is a >serious error, and is a very noticable one. Yeah, I noticed that to. Very annoying. And also, where did those kinda training rooms come from? It's a good episode, granted, but I mean, really, it's very obviously *not* first-season. >Frank Fuller >fuller@sioux.sodak.net >Proud to be a Swat Kats fan at nearly 22 :) You're nearly twenty-two? Whew! And *my* parents tell *me* I'm too old for cartoons--and I'm only twelve years old!!!!!! (And I'll be thirteen this October. A teenager finally. Scary, huh?) Terra Chang SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "Crud Razor! Why--do--you--always--hafta--be--right?" "This is one time I wish I weren't!" --T-Bone & Razor, "The Bride of the Pastmaster" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Art doesn't matter; history doesn't matter." --Akasha, "The Queen of the Damned" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 00:00:15 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA26248 for kats-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 23:36:51 -0400 Received: from sioux.sodak.net (root@sioux.sodak.net [205.164.184.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA26243 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 23:36:45 -0400 Received: from sioux.sodak.net ([205.164.184.213]) by sioux.sodak.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA15369 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 22:41:28 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 22:41:28 -0500 Message-Id: <199604200341.WAA15369@sioux.sodak.net> X-Sender: fuller@sioux X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: fuller@sioux.sodak.net (Frank Fuller) Subject: Re: Just a little nitpicking... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> >>Frank Fuller >>fuller@sioux.sodak.net >>Proud to be a Swat Kats fan at nearly 22 :) > >You're nearly twenty-two? Whew! And *my* parents tell *me* I'm too old for >cartoons--and I'm only twelve years old!!!!!! (And I'll be thirteen this >October. A teenager finally. Scary, huh?) > >Terra Chang >SWAT Kats lover >Anne Rice fan > >"Crud Razor! Why--do--you--always--hafta--be--right?" > >"This is one time I wish I weren't!" > --T-Bone & Razor, "The Bride of the Pastmaster" Yup. I turn 22 in June :> As I often say to people who wonder how old I am, after showing them the Kats WWW page, Swat Kats is for an older audience. It's not a 'kiddie cartoon' in the LEAST. It's a great show, even at my old age. Frank Fuller fuller@sioux.sodak.net Proud to be a Swat Kats fan at nearly 22 :) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 00:15:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA29774 for kats-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 23:56:11 -0400 Received: from ns.halifax.com (root@ns.halifax.com [206.99.226.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA29711 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 23:56:04 -0400 Received: from buford.halifax.com (buford [206.99.226.90]) by ns.halifax.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA01089 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 23:55:48 -0400 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 23:55:48 -0400 Message-Id: <199604200355.XAA01089@ns.halifax.com> X-Sender: buford@halifax.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: buford@halifax.com (Brother Buford) Subject: Villain origins Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I have a question for all Swat Kats fans: I know where some of the villains came from, or what "special powers" or gimmicks they use, e.g. Pastmaster's ability to warp time, Hard Drive's Surge Coat, Dr. Viper's origin, etc., but my question is... What the heck is Dark Kat? I realize that he's a kat, but a weird looking one at that. He looks like something out of the dark ages, like Pastmaster, but he also looks like a mutant, like Dr. Viper. He has creeplings to do the dirty work, but does he have any special powers other than being ugly? By the way, he *is* my favorite character (I don't know why, I guess it's because he's mysterious) Does anyone have any comments on my question? Brother Buford "Dark Kat! You psycho!" - Razor (I think that's right...) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 00:35:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA04656 for kats-ll; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 23:59:31 -0400 Received: from sioux.sodak.net (root@sioux.sodak.net [205.164.184.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA04483 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 23:59:28 -0400 Received: from sioux.sodak.net ([205.164.184.213]) by sioux.sodak.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA15419 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 22:44:47 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 22:44:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199604200344.WAA15419@sioux.sodak.net> X-Sender: fuller@sioux X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: fuller@sioux.sodak.net (Frank Fuller) Subject: Re: Just a little nitpicking... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>I just watched The Origin of Dr. Viper, and noticed a serious nitpick in it. >>Did anyone else notice that they used 2nd season equipment in this episode? >>Considering the episode, the events in it were pre-1st season. Yet they used >>the jet pack and the more advanced 2nd season Glovatrix... That, IMHO, is a >>serious error, and is a very noticable one. > >Yeah, I noticed that to. Very annoying. And also, where did those kinda >training rooms come from? It's a good episode, granted, but I mean, really, >it's very obviously *not* first-season. > As for that, I haven't got a CLUE where those training rooms came from, that's another flaw in it. But they 'might' have had time to build those, when they weren't out saving the city. But the 2nd season equipment on something pre 1st season is unforgivable. Frank Fuller fuller@sioux.sodak.net Proud to be a Swat Kats fan at nearly 22 :) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 00:41:51 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA12269 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 00:23:30 -0400 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA12264 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 00:23:27 -0400 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d147.infoserve.net [199.175.157.147]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA08900 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:24:22 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:24:22 -0700 Message-Id: <199604200424.VAA08900@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Favorite episodes? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >IMHO, one of the best, if not the absolute best, has got to be Razor's Edge. >Just for note. A lot of people pick this one, but why? I mean, I know why I'd pick it, but I'm just kinda curious to see if anyone else's mind malfunctions like mine. One of the weird things about people picking this ep is that it's one of the few done by freelance writers (i.e., they write for everybody) - in this case a guy named Mark Saraceni. One quick question to people that would pick this as the best ep: is your favourite character Razor?? _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 00:59:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA12545 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 00:34:13 -0400 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA12540 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 00:34:09 -0400 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d147.infoserve.net [199.175.157.147]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA09223 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:35:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 19 Apr 1996 21:35:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199604200435.VAA09223@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: "Mutation City" is right up there on *my* list 'cuz... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> I said something about not begin confused at all by Chance's statement, >so Some people were due to the fact my attempts at obscuring identities also seemed to amalgamate them as an unfortunate side-effect. No harm done. >>don't worry about it and then sugggested we start a favorite episodes >thread. >>Mine's The Pastmaster Always Rings Twice 'cuz it really takes on an epic >>theme >>in moments, what I consider the series at its best. Anyone else care to >name >>their faves? > >Hmm...um...My favorite has to be "Mutation City"; But "Bright and Shiny >Future" finishes a close second. This was one of the eps with the extra credit above Leopold's that reads "story by Christian and Yvon Tremblay". It's more than likely Doc Conway's favourite ep (can't imagine why, huh?), and is right up there on my faves list because of the interaction between the Katguys on the obstacle course, and later on during the various trials&tribulations with water, monsters and mutations due to biting nasties. The more the guys bounce lines off each other and reveal more about who they are, the better I like them. There was a lot of this kind of thing in "Mutation", and even more in "Razor's Edge". It kinda helped a series like this stand out among an action-adventure world populated by the forced mutant-angst in things like "X-Men" and the like. "Mutation" also introduces us to Lt. Felina Feral, and though she's in stark contrast to the ever-lovely Miss Briggs, they seemed to get along famously in their short scene together. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 08:46:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA09702 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 08:38:52 -0400 Received: from sioux.sodak.net (root@sioux.sodak.net [205.164.184.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA09697 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 08:38:49 -0400 Received: from sioux.sodak.net ([205.164.184.221]) by sioux.sodak.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA18468 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 07:43:37 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 07:43:37 -0500 Message-Id: <199604201243.HAA18468@sioux.sodak.net> X-Sender: fuller@sioux X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: fuller@sioux.sodak.net (Frank Fuller) Subject: Re: Favorite episodes? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>IMHO, one of the best, if not the absolute best, has got to be Razor's Edge. >>Just for note. > >A lot of people pick this one, but why? I mean, I know why I'd pick it, >but I'm just kinda curious to see if anyone else's mind malfunctions like >mine. One of the weird things about people picking this ep is that it's >one of the few done by freelance writers (i.e., they write for everybody) - >in this case a guy named Mark Saraceni. One quick question to people that >would pick this as the best ep: is your favourite character Razor?? As a matter of fact, yes, my favorite IS Razor, but the main reason I like this episode is that its something of a 'thinker', on a subject that other shows have overlooked, routinely. I'm glad that SK was responsible enough to deal with the idea of bystanders potentially getting hurt, should a missile go astray. Most shows when a missile doesn't hit its intended target, you never hear of it again. IMHO they dealt with it VERY well, when everyone thought those two were injured, and I mainly give it the credit for that. It's the best non-combat drama they've had on the show, really. (Although it might just be that I'm an old fart, for liking it because of that ;) Frank Fuller fuller@sioux.sodak.net Proud to be a Swat Kats fan at nearly 22 :) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 10:06:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA15495 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 09:54:29 -0400 Received: from Fox.nstn.ca (fox.nstn.ca [137.186.128.12]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA15487 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 09:54:27 -0400 Received: from ts1-05.hfx.iSTAR.ca (ts1-05.hfx.iSTAR.ca [137.186.7.25]) by Fox.nstn.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA09031 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 10:54:24 -0300 (ADT) Message-Id: <199604201354.KAA09031@Fox.nstn.ca> From: "Erin O'Connell" To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 10:52:27 -0400 Subject: Re: Favorite episodes? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Nope, you're absolutely right - it's the "thinking" element of "Razor's Edge" that makes it such a great episode. It was VERY well done. Erin (SK fan @ 32-and damn proud of it!!) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 10:14:07 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA15581 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 09:57:30 -0400 Received: from Fox.nstn.ca (fox.nstn.ca [137.186.128.12]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA15570 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 09:57:27 -0400 Received: from ts1-05.hfx.iSTAR.ca (ts1-05.hfx.iSTAR.ca [137.186.7.25]) by Fox.nstn.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA09475 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 10:57:24 -0300 (ADT) Message-Id: <199604201357.KAA09475@Fox.nstn.ca> From: "Erin O'Connell" To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 10:55:34 -0400 Subject: Re: Villain origins Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Well, aside from the fact that Dark Kat is probably the most intelligent of the SK villains (he does seem to be able to plan ahead more than the other villans combined), I've never really noticed any "special" powers - except for being a "psycho". Maybe his powers lie in being a lunatic! Erin From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 10:15:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA15724 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 10:03:10 -0400 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA15719 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 10:03:07 -0400 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA11923; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 10:09:28 -0400 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 10:09:27 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Villain origins In-Reply-To: <199604200355.XAA01089@ns.halifax.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, Brother Buford wrote: > What the heck is Dark Kat? Ok, a long time ago, we had a discussion on how Dark Kat could be half-human, half-kat. His superpowers are being a criminal mastermind and being able to anticipate almost anything, but so far the SWAT Kats have proved him wrong. Brother Buford > "Dark Kat! You psycho!" - Razor > (I think that's right...) Close. It's "Dark Kat! You miserable psycho!" A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 10:18:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA15478 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 09:54:14 -0400 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA15473 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 09:54:11 -0400 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA11641; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 10:00:32 -0400 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 10:00:31 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Just a little nitpicking... In-Reply-To: <199604200140.UAA09705@sioux.sodak.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, Frank Fuller wrote: > I just watched The Origin of Dr. Viper, and noticed a serious nitpick in it. > Did anyone else notice that they used 2nd season equipment in this episode? > Considering the episode, the events in it were pre-1st season. Yet they used > the jet pack and the more advanced 2nd season Glovatrix... That, IMHO, is a > serious error, and is a very noticable one. Thank you very much! I noticed that a little too, and I'll add it to my nitpick guide. Still working on it!! A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 10:23:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id JAA15428 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 09:53:00 -0400 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id JAA15423 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 09:52:57 -0400 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA11598; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 09:59:17 -0400 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 09:59:17 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Favorite episodes? In-Reply-To: <199604200143.UAA09813@sioux.sodak.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, Frank Fuller wrote: > IMHO, one of the best, if not the absolute best, has got to be Razor's Edge. > Just for note. Well, IMHO I like "When Stikes Mutilor", because I found no nitpicks or awkward drawing in it. In "Razor's Edge", I found a couple, e.g.: When T-Bone says: "Only one way to find out!" when he is giving the turbokat more throttle he is drawn awkwardly, even go back to it and you'll see it. HURRY! MAKE YOUR SWATKATS EPISODE TAPES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!! I have noticed that the tapes that TCN use to brodcast are getting wear and tear. There are sound dropouts in "Razor's Edge", when T-Bone is flying solo, right before dark kat zaps the turbokat, right when T-Bone shields his eyes to be exact. In "Deadly Piramid", when the Pastmaster says, "This time the SWAT Kats shall not ------ me, and niether shall the enforcers", where ----- is the sound drop out. So hurry up and make those tapes before anything else starts to happen. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 10:23:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA15947 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 10:10:28 -0400 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA15942 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 10:10:24 -0400 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA12216; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 10:16:45 -0400 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 10:16:45 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Favorite Episodes In-Reply-To: <199604200424.VAA08900@unix.infoserve.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > would pick this as the best ep: is your favourite character Razor?? Yup, though I don't have Razor's Edge on my Top 5 list. I don't like to see him getting hurt like that, and I hate irony. My Top 5 List: 1. "Cavers of Horror" (Nice action episode) 2. "When Stikes Mutilor" (ThunderTruck! I love sci-fi too.) 3. "Bright and Shiny Future" (Nice action) 4. "Katastrophe" (The only thing missing was the Pastmaster!) 5. "Unlikely Alloys" (Good Artwork in this ep.) A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 10:33:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id KAA16150 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 10:16:43 -0400 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id KAA16145 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 10:16:40 -0400 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA12352; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 10:23:01 -0400 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 10:23:00 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: SK Movie Requests! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I have some requests for sk videos for maxie, and anyone is welcome to add to this list: 1. The Cyclotron Scene in "Bright and Shiny Future" (320x240 with 22Khz if possible) 2. Sub-orbital in "When Strikes Mutilor" Go ahead and add to the list! A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 11:19:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA19658 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 11:09:39 -0400 Received: from netaxs.com (netaxs.com [198.69.186.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA19653 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 11:09:36 -0400 Received: from unix5.netaxs.com (flogistn@unix5.netaxs.com [207.8.186.7]) by netaxs.com (8.6.13/8.6.11) with ESMTP id LAA08131 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 11:09:36 -0400 Received: (flogistn@localhost) by unix5.netaxs.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id LAA18650; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 11:09:31 -0400 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 11:09:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dr. Samuel Conway" To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: OLD??? In-Reply-To: <199604200341.WAA15369@sioux.sodak.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >You're nearly twenty-two? Whew! And *my* parents tell *me* I'm too old for >cartoons--and I'm only twelve years old!!!!!! (And I'll be thirteen this >October. A teenager finally. Scary, huh?) >Terra Chang Why, you little whippersnapper!! I oughta take a switch to your parents! I'm old enough to be your father, and I haven't stopped watching cartoons. I was watching Popeye when men walked on the moon. I was watching Scooby Doo when Saigon fell. The day before I was granted my doctorate, I watched two hours of Dinosaucers. And as I'm writing this, Felix the Cat is on the TV. It amazes me that people in general still feel that cartoons are only for kids. Maybe it is because they've never *seen* any cartoons -- how could they come to that conclusion if they've seen some of the good stuff out there? Here I am, a bent little old man, and I still watch cartoons on a regular basis. Just how old am I, you ask? Ask Razor. He's seen me. Ask Rat. He did the Heimlich on me when I choked on my dentures at a conference. >Yup. I turn 22 in June....It's a great show, even at my old age. OLD AGE!! You're just a pup! Why, in my day.....*....zzzzzzzzzzzz ------ Samuel Conway, Ph.D. Senior Bent Little Old Scientist Avid Therapeutics Philadelphia, PA flogistn@netaxs.com From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 12:37:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA23628 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 12:18:51 -0400 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA23619 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 12:18:47 -0400 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d150.infoserve.net [199.175.157.150]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA25353 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 09:20:17 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 09:20:17 -0700 Message-Id: <199604201620.JAA25353@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Favorite episodes? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Anybody know of any Canadian stores that would carry the videos? I've >looked around a bit (K-Marts, Walmarts, Mini-marts.....) but I've found >only one of the three videos - and I already own that one! I'm in Vancouver, and the only way I could get a full set was to have 'States friends send me the ones I couldn't get in K-Wal-Mart type stores. We're kinda lucky in this part of the world in that we can just slip across the border to a large American shopping mall that's like, oh...45 minutes away or so - but I don't know if you have anything similar. The U.S. videos are better than ours anyway, as aside from the eps of SwatKats, they have an episode of the ancient "Space Ghost" tacked on as a bonus (depending, of course, on your definition of "bonus"). They also have a graphic at the beginning of the tape showing the "Turner Mansion" logo of Turner Entertainment with a sudden katclaw slash (complete with suitable sound effect) across it as though some ironic commentary on the cancellation. Maybe one of our gang will help you get hold of 'em if you send 'em the cash to cover the vid and shipping? All the list-fans I've had dealings with are really honest and helpful. (Though *somebody* still owes me my promo literature for the SNES game, huh?) >Has anyone played the SNES game? We've got it in "Toys R Us" in Vancouver for like, 74.99 or some junk, but I've yet to see it for rental, so I haven't played it yet. There's a couple of screen grabs from it on the kats website ('kay, now we have two...) "http://rat.org" under a name like "katsnes01.jpg" or similar. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 12:55:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA23620 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 12:18:48 -0400 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA23613 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 12:18:42 -0400 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d150.infoserve.net [199.175.157.150]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA25339 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 09:20:09 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 09:20:09 -0700 Message-Id: <199604201620.JAA25339@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Villain origins Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I have a question for all Swat Kats fans: > >I know where some of the villains came from, or what "special powers" or >gimmicks they use, e.g. Pastmaster's ability to warp time, Hard Drive's >Surge Coat, Dr. Viper's origin, etc., but my question is... > >What the heck is Dark Kat? > >I realize that he's a kat, but a weird looking one at that. He looks like >something out of the dark ages, like Pastmaster, but he also looks like a >mutant, like Dr. Viper. He has creeplings to do the dirty work, but does he >have any special powers other than being ugly? What I got from someone who worked on the show via a friend is that "DarkKat" was trying to escape the law or something when he stumbled upon a cavern that looked like a suitable place to duck 'n 'cover for awhile. While exploring this particular cave network (the very one you see the 'Kat guys navigating on Cyclotron in "Wrath of Dark Kat"), he hears something unidentifiable chattering within the depths, which turn out to be the oh-so-familiar Creeplings! (which is why they aren't over-fond of bright lights, BTW). Of all the villains, his backstory was the one never filled in, and perhaps the one most in need of it. He does seem to have a particular hate on for Enforcer HQ (hm. wonder if *he* crashed an Enforcer Jumper into it too?), but he never explains his motivation for wanting to blow it up ("Dark Side of the SwatKats"), or what exactly what would make "Dark Kat City" ("Wrath of Dark Kat") all that different from Viper's "MegaSwampCity", or for that matter, Megakat City as it stands (other than, of course, "where lawlessness is the law of the land!") DK *is* a very interesting character, and his outfit is always very specific from ep-to-ep, yet utterly unlike the themed trappings like Dr. Viper's threadbare labcoat, Madkat's lunatic "Court Jester" outift, or "The Pastmaster"s Dark Ages sword'n'sorcerer's getup. In other words, all those other villains wear their particular uniforms as an integral part of their backstory. I'd assume the same would hold true for DK. (I'll have to ask some folks about that. Hm.) >Brother Buford >"Dark Kat! You psycho!" - Razor >(I think that's right...) @@@hh....I think there's a "miserable" in there somewheres! ("remember...always cut the red wire.....Dark Kat! You miserable psycho!") upon seeing they're *all* red, natch _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 13:01:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA26744 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 12:54:09 -0400 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA26739 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 12:54:06 -0400 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d150.infoserve.net [199.175.157.150]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA26898 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 09:55:37 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 09:55:37 -0700 Message-Id: <199604201655.JAA26898@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Favorite Episodes Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net A.J. writes: >2. "When Stikes Mutilor" (ThunderTruck! I love sci-fi too.) >3. "Bright and Shiny Future" (Nice action) >4. "Katastrophe" (The only thing missing was the Pastmaster!) Yup, but Pastmaster had his team-up (er..sorta) with Mac and Molly M. in "Bright and Shiny Future". I think because of the nature of PM's power that he'd be *very* hard to team up with the other assorted villains whose talents are more...well..."realistic". How about Pastmaster in an episode where he teams up with Ghost Pilot? Maybe they could, between them, resurrect a whole MegaWar II squadron - complete with ghostly pilots - to aid them in defeating the Enforcers and our Kat-guys? That would be an *outstanding* episode (sub-plot: one of the 'undead' pilots is a KIA relative of one of the main characters? Razor or T-Bone? Feral? Though this "ghost" is under the power of Pastmaster and Ghost Pilot, a one-on-one confrontation with his living descendant might spark a change in behaviour and wind up confounding PM&GP's plans? Wow. Cool.) >5. "Unlikely Alloys" (Good Artwork in this ep.) Yep. Some people slam this ep for the blocky character models, but if they would've worked out a compromise between this type of drawing and the well-animated less-angular versions of the guys from something like "Night of the Dark Kat", then we'd have a great compromise. The drawing in general, BG's and animation in general for this ep was fantastic, and an unfortunate hors d'oeuvres for a third season many people on both sides of the picture tube looked forward to. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 16:07:38 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id PAA05406 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 15:45:48 -0400 Received: from gate.garden.net (gate.garden.net [206.26.128.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id PAA05400 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 15:45:43 -0400 Received: from LOCALNAME (pb-ppp05.garden.net [206.28.208.105]) by gate.garden.net (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11505) with SMTP id AAA45 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 15:46:49 -0400 X-Sender: djclawson@garden.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Subject: Re: Just a little nitpicking/hanger Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 15:46:49 -0400 Message-ID: <19960420194648908.AAA45@pb-ppp05.garden.net> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 09:37 PM 4/19/96 -0500, you wrote: >>I just watched The Origin of Dr. Viper, and noticed a serious nitpick in it. >>Did anyone else notice that they used 2nd season equipment in this episode? >>Considering the episode, the events in it were pre-1st season. Yet they used >>the jet pack and the more advanced 2nd season Glovatrix... That, IMHO, is a >>serious error, and is a very noticable one. > >Yeah, I noticed that to. Very annoying. And also, where did those kinda >training rooms come from? It's a good episode, granted, but I mean, really, >it's very obviously *not* first-season. > >>Frank Fuller Count me in! An error to be sure, but we have to cut them some slack. After all, the teams of guys designing these episodes varied, and we can't expect EVERY guy (or gal) to know EVERY detail about the difference in seasons. Yeah, but someone should have caught that. Something I like about SKs that bothered me in this episode: Aside from some wild stuff, SWAT Kats is a basically logical show. I mean, it IS logical that a pair of expert ex-enforcers could build their own jet from scrap metal (well, it's not THAT far of the mark . . .). The hanger could have easily been there all ready as some base people had forgotten about. Technology wise, except for "When Strikes the Mutilor" where the SKs took their little space flight (which I thought was ridiculious, Razor's smart but no MASA scientist), the Turbokat is basically believable, considering all the other high tech stuff we all ready see in the city. So the show's reasonably believable. So where the hell did that training room come from? We saw LEVELS AND LEVELS of endless tunnels and shooting galleries. Come on, no base is THAT big, and they're not exactly fighting in some alley in the city with no one noticing or getting shot in the background. Even if the hanger WAS that big, then that meant when it was originally used as a base, the operations handled there would have been so big and so key to the war or whatever they were using it for, SOMEONE would have remembered it. My theory is it was an extra secret setup only a few people knew about anyway, and after those people where killed or injured, it was forgotten. That means it was a reasonably small operation. From what we see, I guess the hanger is only about 2 levels: 1-A small ladder leading down from the garage. The main base, with all the equipment, training stuff, and where the Turbokat is stored. 2-When in use, the Turbokat drops down a floor to the lower (and less used) level, where the runway is set up to launch out through the opening on ground level. Note: in "Metal Urgency" our guys use this to their advantage, dropping the Turbokat down on the Metallikats. Having a different level for the actual takeoff and runway also probably helps keep engine exhaust from clogging up the upper level with their stuff. just me 2 cents . . . Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 18:53:47 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id SAA15594 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 18:38:53 -0400 Received: from sioux.sodak.net (root@sioux.sodak.net [205.164.184.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id SAA15589 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 18:38:50 -0400 Received: from sioux.sodak.net ([205.164.184.200]) by sioux.sodak.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA09208 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 17:43:42 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 17:43:42 -0500 Message-Id: <199604202243.RAA09208@sioux.sodak.net> X-Sender: fuller@sioux X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: fuller@sioux.sodak.net (Frank Fuller) Subject: Re: Just a little nitpicking/hanger Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Aside from some wild stuff, SWAT Kats is a basically logical show. I mean, >it IS logical that a pair of expert ex-enforcers could build their own jet >from scrap metal (well, it's not THAT far of the mark . . .). > > Dr. Jake > If you remember "The Wrath of Dark Kat", where they have a flashback from the day they were kicked off the enforcers, they said it was 'military salvage' that they built the jet out ot, not just random scrap metal. Just for clarity's sake. Remember that its a 'salvage yard', not a dump, meaning that they do go through things that come through it, and could easily have found working parts from military equipment sent to them, to build the TurboKat. Proally the equipment that still worked after the overall equipment couldn't stand up to the enemies the Swat Kats have to deal with. Frank Fuller fuller@sioux.sodak.net Proud to be a Swat Kats fan at nearly 22 :) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 19:31:25 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id TAA18899 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 19:19:11 -0400 Received: from host (host.warwick.net [204.255.24.254]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA18891 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 19:19:08 -0400 Received: from m3-06.warwick.net by host; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0310PM) id AA25278; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 19:20:25 -0400 X-Sender: u1003240@host.warwick.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Light 1.5.4Fat (PowerPC) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 19:21:04 -0500 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: jaguar@warwick.net (Michael J. Rider) Subject: Re: OLD??? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net "Dr. Samuel Conway" wrote: >Why, you little whippersnapper!! > >I oughta take a switch to your parents! I'm old enough to be your >father, and I haven't stopped watching cartoons. I was watching >Popeye when men walked on the moon. I was watching Scooby Doo >when Saigon fell. The day before I was granted my doctorate, I >watched two hours of Dinosaucers. And as I'm writing this, Felix >the Cat is on the TV. Hee hee heeee... and I was watching the Smurfs when the Berlin wall came down. I guess you remember when the original silent Felix was first run. :) >It amazes me that people in general still feel that cartoons are only >for kids. Maybe it is because they've never *seen* any cartoons -- how >could they come to that conclusion if they've seen some of the good >stuff out there? Here I am, a bent little old man, and I still watch >cartoons on a regular basis. Just how old am I, you ask? Ask Razor. >He's seen me. Ask Rat. He did the Heimlich on me when I choked on my >dentures at a conference. That does seem to be the general attitude, at least in North America. Maybe it's a little different in Japan. >>Yup. I turn 22 in June....It's a great show, even at my old age. > >OLD AGE!! You're just a pup! Why, in my day.....*....zzzzzzzzzzzz Git some rest old timer. -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Michael J. Rider, jaguar@warwick.net (Jason_Jaguar on FurryMUCK) | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Brain> Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? | | Pinky> I think so, Brain, but me and Pippi Longstocking... | | I mean, what would the children look like? | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 20:21:39 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA22022 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:01:39 -0400 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA22017 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:01:36 -0400 Received: from net-3-103.austin.eden.com (net-3-103.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.103]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id TAA27233 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 19:01:33 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 19:01:33 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199604210001.TAA27233@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Just a little nitpicking... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >As for that, I haven't got a CLUE where those training rooms came from, >that's another flaw in it. But they 'might' have had time to build those, >when they weren't out saving the city. But the 2nd season equipment on >something pre 1st season is unforgivable. I know. It was showing today on the Cartoon Network, ("Volcanus Erupts!/The Origin of Dr. Viper") and I was telling my mom about it. I remembered this post and started telling her about my nitpicks on it. I don't really think she was listening . . . ;) P.S. Frank, about your comment that it's not a kiddie show: Whaddaya think **I** am? ;) ;) Wattaminute, don't answer that, 'kay? >Frank Fuller >fuller@sioux.sodak.net >Proud to be a Swat Kats fan at nearly 22 :) Hell, honey, we're ALL proud t' be a SWAT Kats fan, no matter *how* old we are!!! Right? Terra Chang SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "Crud Razor! Why--do--you--always--hafta--be--right?" "This is one time I wish I weren't!" --T-Bone & Razor, "The Bride of the Pastmaster" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Art doesn't matter; history doesn't matter." --Akasha, "The Queen of the Damned" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 20:40:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA22607 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:25:50 -0400 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA22602 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:25:48 -0400 Received: from net-3-103.austin.eden.com (net-3-103.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.103]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id TAA28309 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 19:25:45 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 19:25:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199604210025.TAA28309@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Favorite episodes? X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>IMHO, one of the best, if not the absolute best, has got to be Razor's Edge. >>Just for note. > >A lot of people pick this one, but why? Probably 'cause a lotta people like seeing that the SWAT Kats do have a human (feline?) side. I dunno, really. >I mean, I know why I'd pick it, >but I'm just kinda curious to see if anyone else's mind malfunctions like >mine. One of the weird things about people picking this ep is that it's >one of the few done by freelance writers (i.e., they write for everybody) - >in this case a guy named Mark Saraceni. One quick question to people that >would pick this as the best ep: is your favourite character Razor?? Umm, Chance, I believe this question was already asked, and mostly everbody who replied said "Razor/Jake." I know **I** did. Razor's edge was okay, but my favorite 2nd season was "Mutation City." I don't really know why, I just like it. Hmmm, has this Mark Saraceni character written any novels? Just curious. My favorite character was and still is: Razor. He's just my fav., and I don't know why, so DON'T ASK!!!! Sorry, I'm not feeling good right now (allergies--ugh.) and I feel like biting or lashing out at somebody. Call it a leftover from the AR group? "Hello, I am the Vampire Lestat"? hangover? =F Well? Terra Chang SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "Crud Razor! Why--do--you--always--hafta--be--right?" "This is one time I wish I weren't!" --T-Bone & Razor, "The Bride of the Pastmaster" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Art doesn't matter; history doesn't matter." --Akasha, "The Queen of the Damned" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 20:51:50 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA22506 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:19:27 -0400 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA22501 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:19:24 -0400 Received: from net-3-103.austin.eden.com (net-3-103.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.103]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id TAA27994 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 19:19:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 19:19:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199604210019.TAA27994@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: OLD??? X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Why, you little whippersnapper!! I'm actually one of the taller people in the 6th grade (5"3), not to mention the one voted "Most likely to be either a multi-million dollar comedian or a washed up junkie on the streets". (Not really, but some people in our school have told me I would or should become either) >I oughta take a switch to your parents! I'm old enough to be your >father, and I haven't stopped watching cartoons. my daddy's over two million years old. (Family joke) Actually, he's fourty-six. Whaddaya think o' that? Yeah, about a switch to m' parents: They're not that bad, that's about the only thing they complain about. Whenever I'm writing either an AR or SK story, and Mom asks me what I'm doing, if I say "Anne Rice," she shakes her head and says "Your vampires again!" in a really dissaproving tone. But if I say "SWAT Kats," she says "Oh, that stupid kid's cartoon again . . .", but is sounds like she's only joking. But don't hold it against her. She just doesn't like it. Do you know how *frustrating* it is to be the ONLY one in your family and among your friends who is a fan of the SWAT Kats? >I was watching >Popeye when men walked on the moon. I was watching Scooby Doo >when Saigon fell. The day before I was granted my doctorate, I >watched two hours of Dinosaucers. And as I'm writing this, Felix >the Cat is on the TV. Who's Saigon? Scooby Doo . . . my parents don't like that one very much. I think it's okay, but it's not my favorite. If it was, I wouldn't be *here*, I'd be there! (Wherever "there" is!) >It amazes me that people in general still feel that cartoons are only >for kids. Maybe it is because they've never *seen* any cartoons -- how >could they come to that conclusion if they've seen some of the good >stuff out there? Here I am, a bent little old man, and I still watch >cartoons on a regular basis. Yeah, I think they've never seen any cartoon for an age group older than those who watch "Smurfs" and "Paw-Paw Bears" and actually *believe* what they're seenin'!! (The kids who watch, not the adults. Of course, there are some adults out there that are that stupid. No names will be mentioned. But then, it's nobody on this list. ) I don't watch TV period on a regular basis. I'm too busy surfing the Net or trying to figure out how to make my own web page! And if I ever do, I'll tell you guys. 'Course, it won't be *all* SK, sorry. But I *do* have other intrests, horrifying as it may seem to some. (Ryan? You reading this? ;) ) >Just how old am I, you ask? Ask Razor. >He's seen me. Ask Rat. He did the Heimlich on me when I choked on my >dentures at a conference. Eeek! Dentures!! Ack! You poor man! Ugh! Dentures!! (Sorry, had to get that out.) Okay, then, hello? Razor? Rat? You guys there? Exactly how old ***IS*** our dear personal Dr. Conway? ;) THe Heimlich? Ooo! I had to learn how to do that in Girl Scouts. It wasn't very pretty. 'Specially 'cause some girls tried to ham it up, acting like they were dying. One girl who will remain nameless (Michelle Keith) actually held her breath till she turned blue!!! DEFINTELY not pretty!! >>Yup. I turn 22 in June....It's a great show, even at my old age. > >OLD AGE!! You're just a pup! Why, in my day.....*....zzzzzzzzzzzz Oh no . . . Somebody go get a bucket of water! Dr. Conway fell asleep on the keyboard again!!! P.S. And I've got some more crazy ideas for our little group, if anybody wants t' hear them, drop me a note, okay? Of course, in order to put them into affect, we'd need the entire list co-operating . . . Now *that's* a scary thought! P.P.S. Whatever happened to my little RPG idea? It kinda died on us, from what I saw. >------ >Samuel Conway, Ph.D. (Ahh! A doctor! Run away!!) >Senior Bent Little Old Scientist (Aww, how cute! ) >Avid Therapeutics (Huh? Whazzat?) >Philadelphia, PA (Me, it's Austin, Texas.) >flogistn@netaxs.com (Do I really need to say anything about address? ) Terra Chang SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "Crud Razor! Why--do--you--always--hafta--be--right?" "This is one time I wish I weren't!" --T-Bone & Razor, "The Bride of the Pastmaster" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Art doesn't matter; history doesn't matter." --Akasha, "The Queen of the Damned" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 20:52:25 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA22678 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:30:34 -0400 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.santonio.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA22673 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:30:32 -0400 Received: from net-3-103.austin.eden.com (net-3-103.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.103]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id TAA28514 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 19:30:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 19:30:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199604210030.TAA28514@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Favorite episodes? X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Our dear lil AJ Freda wrote this: >Well, IMHO I like "When Stikes Mutilor", because I found no nitpicks or >awkward drawing in it. In "Razor's Edge", I found a couple, e.g.: When >T-Bone says: "Only one way to find out!" when he is giving the turbokat >more throttle he is drawn awkwardly, even go back to it and you'll see it. Oh, AJ, is that the ONLY reason you like a show? Seriously, sweetie, that can't be all, can it? >HURRY! MAKE YOUR SWATKATS EPISODE TAPES AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!! I have >noticed that the tapes that TCN use to brodcast are getting wear and >tear. There are sound dropouts in "Razor's Edge", when T-Bone is flying >solo, right before dark kat zaps the turbokat, right when T-Bone shields >his eyes to be exact. In "Deadly Piramid", when the Pastmaster says, >"This time the SWAT Kats shall not ------ me, and niether shall the >enforcers", where ----- is the sound drop out. So hurry up and make those >tapes before anything else starts to happen. Oh, don't worry 'bout lil ole me. I finished taping what . . . six, seven, eight, nine, two years ago? >A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please >ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! >"Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club >SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS =0 =F =)!!! Terra Chang SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "Crud Razor! Why--do--you--always--hafta--be--right?" "This is one time I wish I weren't!" --T-Bone & Razor, "The Bride of the Pastmaster" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Art doesn't matter; history doesn't matter." --Akasha, "The Queen of the Damned" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 21:02:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA24428 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:51:03 -0400 Received: from Fox.nstn.ca (fox.nstn.ca [137.186.128.12]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA24423 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:51:00 -0400 Received: from ts4-11.hfx.iSTAR.ca (ts4-11.hfx.iSTAR.ca [137.186.7.91]) by Fox.nstn.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA25636 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:50:55 -0300 (ADT) Message-Id: <199604210050.VAA25636@Fox.nstn.ca> From: "Erin O'Connell" To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:49:00 -0400 Subject: Re: Favorite episodes? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net RE: the SNES game - I lucked out a few weeks ago...Toys'r'Us was clearing out (big time) their video game selections and I managed to pick up the SK game for 9.95 (plus 7% GST +11% PST.....) but still a bargain. I've only gotten through one world, but I've enjoyed the game so far (but, boy, did my thumbs hurt trying to get out of one level!) Erin (ancient @ 32...) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 21:06:47 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA22991 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:41:30 -0400 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@natashya.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA22978 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:41:22 -0400 Received: from net-3-103.austin.eden.com (net-3-103.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.103]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id TAA29001 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 19:41:19 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 19:41:19 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199604210041.TAA29001@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Favorite Episodes X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Yup, though I don't have Razor's Edge on my Top 5 list. I don't >like to see him getting hurt like that, and I hate irony. That's funny, a lotta people seem to like hurting Razor, then ending the story w/ him all better! But, seriously, neither do I. He's my favorite character as well, and I can't stand seeing people (or kats) I like get hurt. Call it a weakness. =/ >My Top 5 List: > >1. "Cavers of Horror" (Nice action episode) >2. "When Stikes Mutilor" (ThunderTruck! I love sci-fi too.) >3. "Bright and Shiny Future" (Nice action) >4. "Katastrophe" (The only thing missing was the Pastmaster!) >5. "Unlikely Alloys" (Good Artwork in this ep.) Oh, here's mine: 1. "Mutation City" (very good story, nice to see how close the friendship between our guys is. Call me a sentimentalist, but don't tell anyone else, okay?) 2. "Metal Urgency" (A lot like Chance's "SWAT Kats Unmasked?" which I thoroughly liked. Not to mention there were a lot of little things about it I could go on about. If anyone's feeling bored, send me a note and I'll tell you all the reasons I like my #1 & 2 as much as I do. ) 3. "Bright and Shiny Future" (It's the closet to learning of Chance's kittenhood as we ever get in the series. And it had lotsa openings for stories, as some of you who've recently visited the archive know . . . ) 4. "Katastrophe" ('Cuz I just did, okay?) 5. "The Origin of Dr. Viper" (I like knowing where the characters I know and love come from. Not that I love Dr. V., but he's my fav. villan! And anyway, it was a good episode, making it worth it that I managed to sit thru "Volcanus Erupts!" >A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please >ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! >"Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club >SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS BTW, I've got a new story in the process of being written; and if anyone wants to see a rough draft of what I've got, just tell me. It probably won't be what you'll see end up on the archive, but it might! But, till then, au revoir! (Sorry, French class yesterday got to me, not to mention on my other list French is a very popular language, being the nationality and native tongue of the two most popular characters . . .) Terra Chang SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "Crud Razor! Why--do--you--always--hafta--be--right?" "This is one time I wish I weren't!" --T-Bone & Razor, "The Bride of the Pastmaster" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Art doesn't matter; history doesn't matter." --Akasha, "The Queen of the Damned" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 21:16:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id UAA24243 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:47:27 -0400 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id UAA24234 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 20:47:22 -0400 Received: from net-3-103.austin.eden.com (net-3-103.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.103]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id TAA29285 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 19:47:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 19:47:18 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199604210047.TAA29285@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Favorite Episodes X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Yup, but Pastmaster had his team-up (er..sorta) with Mac and Molly M. >in "Bright and Shiny Future". I think because of the nature of PM's power >that he'd be *very* hard to team up with the other assorted villains whose >talents are more...well..."realistic". How about Pastmaster in an episode >where he teams up with Ghost Pilot? Maybe they could, between them, >resurrect a whole MegaWar II squadron - complete with ghostly pilots - to >aid them in defeating the Enforcers and our Kat-guys? That would be >an *outstanding* episode (sub-plot: one of the 'undead' pilots is a >KIA relative of one of the main characters? Razor or T-Bone? Feral? >Though this "ghost" is under the power of Pastmaster and Ghost Pilot, a >one-on-one confrontation with his living descendant might spark a change >in behaviour and wind up confounding PM&GP's plans? Wow. Cool.) Hey, that sounds kinda like a MWII story Courtney *was* writing (I don't what happened to it, I think it kinda died . . .) but yeah, it was a lot like that. Hey, anybody wanna try writing that into a fanfic? (If no one wants to, I can give it a shot, but I don't know that much about WWII, which MWII was based on, so my stuff might be slightly off) Speaking of WWII, it started cuz of Hitler and his Nazis, right? What d'you think caused MWII? Maybe some feline equal of Hitler goin' around killing, oh, say, Persian cats? I dunno. >>5. "Unlikely Alloys" (Good Artwork in this ep.) > >Yep. Some people slam this ep for the blocky character models, but if they >would've worked out a compromise between this type of drawing and >the well-animated less-angular versions of the guys from something like >"Night of the Dark Kat", then we'd have a great compromise. The drawing in >general, BG's and animation in general for this ep was fantastic, and an >unfortunate hors d'oeuvres for a third season many people on both sides >of the picture tube looked forward to. Oh well. *I* liked it. >_____________________________________________________ >"Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed > antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, > through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in > the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" >_____________________________________________________ > Terra Chang SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "Crud Razor! Why--do--you--always--hafta--be--right?" "This is one time I wish I weren't!" --T-Bone & Razor, "The Bride of the Pastmaster" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Art doesn't matter; history doesn't matter." --Akasha, "The Queen of the Damned" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 21:18:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA25635 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:05:03 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA25623 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:04:58 -0400 Received: from [202.154.6.98] (dyn1098a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.98]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id IAA15190 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:04:51 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:03:27 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Ann Gora's earrings. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net How do she wear them anyway? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 21:33:46 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA25668 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:05:26 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA25661 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:05:21 -0400 Received: from [202.154.6.98] (dyn1098a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.98]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id IAA15216 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:05:15 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:03:50 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Dr.Sinian. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Does anybody here want to talk about Dr.Sinian? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 21:45:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA25621 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:04:57 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA25615 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:04:52 -0400 Received: from [202.154.6.98] (dyn1098a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.98]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id IAA15184 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:04:40 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:03:21 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Navy... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Is there some sort of Navy in MegaKat city? Because I think that I saw some sort of Carrier in "Ghost Pilot". From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 21:48:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA26575 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:44:15 -0400 Received: from Fox.nstn.ca (fox.nstn.ca [137.186.128.12]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA26568 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:44:13 -0400 Received: from ts4-11.hfx.iSTAR.ca (ts4-11.hfx.iSTAR.ca [137.186.7.91]) by Fox.nstn.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA04177 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:44:10 -0300 (ADT) Message-Id: <199604210144.WAA04177@Fox.nstn.ca> From: "Erin O'Connell" To: kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:42:17 -0400 Subject: Re: Favorite Episodes Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hey, maybe an ancestor of Dark Kat could the the SK equivalent of Hitler! Erin (ancient @ 32-and working on a fan-fic of her own) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 21:52:56 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA25595 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:04:36 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA25587 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:04:31 -0400 Received: from [202.154.6.98] (dyn1098a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.98]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id IAA15171 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:04:23 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:03:00 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Aliens! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net We call other beings that look like a human; a humanoid, what do the kats call the aliens in "When Strikes Mutilor"? Felinoid maybe? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 22:00:03 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA25605 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:04:45 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA25598 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:04:40 -0400 Received: from [202.154.6.98] (dyn1098a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.98]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id IAA15177 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:04:29 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:03:09 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: The original Policewoman. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I'm curious on what the original Policewoman supposed to be. Does anybody here know about what she supposed to look like? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 22:02:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA25570 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:04:21 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA25558 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:04:17 -0400 Received: from [202.154.6.98] (dyn1098a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.98]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id IAA15162 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:04:10 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:02:45 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Season One <-> Season Two Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net What will happen if all season one's stories become season two episodes, and all season two's story become season one episodes? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 22:11:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA25655 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:05:19 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA25647 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:05:14 -0400 Received: from [202.154.6.98] (dyn1098a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.98]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id IAA15203 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:05:04 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:03:41 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: The missing years? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Ok, we have already seen age group 20 to 50 (And probaly higher if you count the Pastmaster.). But what happen to the age group between 9-19? I haven't seen all the episodes, so if I make a mistake here, please forgive me. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 22:13:35 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA25662 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:05:22 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA25653 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:05:17 -0400 Received: from [202.154.6.98] (dyn1098a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.98]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id IAA15209 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:05:10 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:03:46 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: What will happen if Chance say yes at that time? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net What if Chance obey Commander Feral order to go back to the HQ? will the SwatKats will exist? what will happen to MegaKat city? will everything will remain the same? will Feral change his mind on the guys? etc. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 22:16:50 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA27847 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:49:40 -0400 Received: from Fox.nstn.ca (fox.nstn.ca [137.186.128.12]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA27840 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:49:36 -0400 Received: from ts4-11.hfx.iSTAR.ca (ts4-11.hfx.iSTAR.ca [137.186.7.91]) by Fox.nstn.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA04892; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:48:58 -0300 (ADT) Message-Id: <199604210148.WAA04892@Fox.nstn.ca> From: "Erin O'Connell" To: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang), kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:47:06 -0400 Subject: Re: OLD??? Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hey, I'd love to hear your ideas. Oh, BTW, if you think it's rough being a SK fan at your age, try it at 32! , such is life. Erin From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 22:17:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA25644 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:05:11 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA25638 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:05:06 -0400 Received: from [202.154.6.98] (dyn1098a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.98]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id IAA15195 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:04:58 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:03:35 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Lady Enforcer. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Well, we have seen Felina, where are the rest of the Enforcer population? Do you want know what I think? I think that maybe the original Policewoman does exist in the SWAT Kats universe, and she is probaly the one that help them become the SWAT Kats. From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 22:18:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA25532 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:04:04 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA25525 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:03:59 -0400 Received: from [202.154.6.98] (dyn1098a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.98]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id IAA15137 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:03:48 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:02:23 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: "Mutation City". Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, LtFFeral wrote: >>Hmm...um...My favorite has to be "Mutation City"; But "Bright and Shiny >>Future" finishes a close second. Well, my one of my favorite scene in "Mutation City" is the fight scene between T-Bone and Razor. It's very cat like. BTW, how high can a kat jump anyway? On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, Andy Hill wrote: >"Mutation" also introduces us to Lt. Felina Feral, and though she's in stark >contrast to the ever-lovely Miss Briggs, they seemed to get along famously >in their short scene together. Stark contrast? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 22:21:53 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA25554 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:04:14 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA25541 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:04:08 -0400 Received: from [202.154.6.98] (dyn1098a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.98]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id IAA15150 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:04:01 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:02:36 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Ages... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, Frank Fuller wrote: >Yup. I turn 22 in June :> As I often say to people who wonder how old I am, >after showing them the Kats WWW page, Swat Kats is for an older audience. >It's not a 'kiddie cartoon' in the LEAST. It's a great show, even at my old age. "Not a Kiddie cartoon"? "For an older audience"? SWAT Kats is for all ages, and just like what Bruno Abud said, "It's a trump. The successful cartoons must gratify all age levels. SK does this." Besides, age is nothing but numbers. >Frank Fuller >fuller@sioux.sodak.net >Proud to be a Swat Kats fan at nearly 22 :) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 22:22:43 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA25585 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:04:30 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA25579 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:04:25 -0400 Received: from [202.154.6.98] (dyn1098a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.98]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id IAA15166 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:04:13 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:02:53 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Video games... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net OK, this post isn't about SWAT Kats video games. This post is about the= position of video games in the SWAT Kats universe. We know there is an arcade game somewhere in MegaKat, since that Chance was= playing one in "Destructive Nature", and we do know that wireframe graphics= do exist in the SWAT Kats universe (Look at the dimensional radar in "The= Dark Side of the SWAT Kats".). Is there some sort of company that make= video games in MegaKat? Do you guys ever think that a Kat Kommando game might exist in the SWAT= Kats universe? Here's another question, do Kat Kommando really exist? Here's the big one, is the SwatKats gonna meet Kat Kommando? OK, if Kat Kommando doesn't interest you, how about Scaredy Kat? Is there a= Video Game based on Scaredy Kat in MegaKat? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 22:24:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA29341 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:10:23 -0400 Received: from gate.garden.net (gate.garden.net [206.26.128.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA29336 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:10:20 -0400 Received: from LOCALNAME (pb-ppp03.garden.net [206.28.208.103]) by gate.garden.net (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11505) with SMTP id AAA215 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:11:37 -0400 X-Sender: djclawson@garden.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: djclawson@garden.net (DJ Clawson) Subject: Re: Dr.Sinian. Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:11:37 -0400 Message-ID: <19960421021136046.AAA215@pb-ppp03.garden.net> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 08:03 AM 4/21/96 +0700, you wrote: >Does anybody here want to talk about Dr.Sinian? > > Yeah, sure! I gave her a nice, large role in "Vilthuril." It's kinda cool (BTW, "Virthuril" is coming along nicely and is looking towards being finished by somehwhere in May. Any later than that and I would REALLY have to put it off, because finals are the first week of June. I'll try and finish it before I start the major studying, but I've got some grades to pull up). Dr. Jake From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 22:25:08 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA25540 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:04:08 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA25531 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:04:03 -0400 Received: from [202.154.6.98] (dyn1098a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.98]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id IAA15143 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:03:55 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:02:31 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Villain origins (Dark Kat) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, Brother Buford wrote: >I have a question for all Swat Kats fans: > >What the heck is Dark Kat? A very dark and evil kat. Hence the name "Dark Kat". >He has creeplings to do the dirty work, but does he >have any special powers other than being ugly? A lot of really cool instruments of doom and he also got those cute little creeplings to help him. You know what, I really wish that the Doomsday device succed on its detonation. >By the way, he *is* my favorite character (I don't know why, I guess it's >because he's mysterious) That's why his origin have to be keep a secret, his mysteriousity is one of his charms. >Does anyone have any comments on my question? You should have seen some of the speculation on him on this list, here's some of them: * Dark Kat is a human. * Dark Kat is Feral's brother. * Which makes him Felina's father (Maybe that's how she got her human characteristic.). >Brother Buford >"Dark Kat! You psycho!" - Razor >(I think that's right...) "Dark Kat! You miserable pyscho!" - Razor, when he was falling down with the bomb. Well, that's what I remember anyway. Does anybody here want to guess on why I like "The Wrath of Dark Kat"? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 22:32:01 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA25563 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:04:18 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA25552 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:04:13 -0400 Received: from [202.154.6.98] (dyn1098a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.98]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id IAA15154 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:04:05 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:02:41 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Just a little nitpicking... (Origin of Dark Kat) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, Frank fuller wrote: >>I just watched The Origin of Dr. Viper, and noticed a serious nitpick in i= t. >>Did anyone else notice that they used 2nd season equipment in this episode= ? >>Considering the episode, the events in it were pre-1st season. Yet they us= ed >>the jet pack and the more advanced 2nd season Glovatrix... That, IMHO, is = a >>serious error, and is a very noticable one. I think that the second season episodes is all experimental episodes, they= want to do the things that they want to do in the first season. Of course if you worried about continuity, we could say that episode happen= on an alternate universe. Here's another scenario, the SWAT Kats is so= popular they decided to make a cartoon out of them, and the episode that we= saw was a cartoon based on the SWAT Kats. Sorta like a cartoon in a cartoon= thing. And about the more advanced Glovatrix in the second season, they only look= more advanced because they were drawn better On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, Terra Chang wrote: >Yeah, I noticed that to. Very annoying. And also, where did those kinda=20 >training rooms come from? It's a good episode, granted, but I mean, really,= =20 >it's very obviously *not* first-season. =46irst season and Second season is interchangeable, this is why ask what= happen if the first season story's stories become seacond season episodes= and the second season's stories became first season episodes.=20 From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 22:39:06 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id VAA26184 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:28:09 -0400 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id VAA26179 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:27:59 -0400 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d144.infoserve.net [199.175.157.144]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA16068 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 18:29:36 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 18:29:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199604210129.SAA16068@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Just a little nitpicking/hanger Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >> Aside from some wild stuff, SWAT Kats is a basically logical show. I mean, >>it IS logical that a pair of expert ex-enforcers could build their own jet >>from scrap metal (well, it's not THAT far of the mark . . .). >> >> Dr. Jake >> > >If you remember "The Wrath of Dark Kat", where they have a flashback from >the day they were kicked off the enforcers, they said it was 'military >salvage' that they built the jet out ot, not just random scrap metal. Just >for clarity's sake. Yup. Originally the "Megakat City Scrap Yard" was exactly that: a kind of glorified garbage dump that represented the lowest possible assignment that could be given a pair of disgraced civic employees. The design team consisting of Eric Clark, Tony Sgroi, Lance Falk, Christian and Yvon Tremblay and a few others hashed it around and decided that it'd be a lot more interesting if the "Scrap Yard" could be transformed into a "Salvage Yard"; enabling the Kitties to have access to all that nifty stuff that the Military-Industrial complex heaves overboard on a daily basis. BTW, you wouldn't *believe* the stuff that the Military chucks out. Turbokat parts winding up alongside empty tins of MegaKatFood isn't that much of a stretch. We were stripping army Jeeps at Malmstrom AFB in Great Falls, MO, and the electronic gear that was lying around in the snow outside awaiting a date with the dumpster was not to be believed! We scrounged four 40 amp 24V power supplies that had been in an EC-130, and once we shook the dirt out of the things, they worked perfectly. These are $600.00 items on the street. One of my co-consipirators has the scrap contract for the local Army Base, and the stuff winding up even in *our* dump could make up some very expensive surveillance gear - and not too few heavy weapons either. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 23:02:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA01879 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:57:08 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA01874 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:57:03 -0400 Received: from [202.154.6.39] (dyn1039a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.39]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id JAA18614 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 09:56:53 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 09:55:32 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: New Intro. Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net OK, let suppose that a third season will be in the make. What will you want the intro to be? From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 23:16:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id WAA01815 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:55:47 -0400 Received: from natashya.eden.com (root@mail.austin.eden.com [199.171.21.14]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA01806 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:55:42 -0400 Received: from net-3-103.austin.eden.com (net-7-210.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.210]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id VAA05135 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:55:36 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:55:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199604210255.VAA05135@natashya.eden.com> X-Sender: kaychang@mail.eden.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: kaychang@eden.com (Kay Chang) Subject: Re: Just a little nitpicking... (Origin of Dark Kat) X-Mailer: Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I think that the second season episodes is all experimental episodes, they want to do the things that they want to do in the first season. Umm . . . to quote Feral in "Katastrophe": "No comment." >Of course if you worried about continuity, we could say that episode happen on an alternate universe. Here's another scenario, the SWAT Kats is so popular they decided to make a cartoon out of them, and the episode that we saw was a cartoon based on the SWAT Kats. Sorta like a cartoon in a cartoon thing. Y'mean like Skardey Kat? >And about the more advanced Glovatrix in the second season, they only look more advanced because they were drawn better Mmmmmmmmm . . . . maybe . . . >On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, Terra Chang wrote: (Hey! me! ) >>Yeah, I noticed that to. Very annoying. And also, where did those kinda >>training rooms come from? It's a good episode, granted, but I mean, really, >>it's very obviously *not* first-season. > >First season and Second season is interchangeable, this is why ask what happen if the first season story's stories become seacond season episodes and the second season's stories became first season episodes. Uh, okay. I'd be lying if I said "I understand that," so I won't say anything. But please, you don't hafta 'splain. I've got enough of a headache already. =( Terra Chang SWAT Kats lover Anne Rice fan "Crud Razor! Why--do--you--always--hafta--be--right?" "This is one time I wish I weren't!" --T-Bone & Razor, "The Bride of the Pastmaster" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Art doesn't matter; history doesn't matter." --Akasha, "The Queen of the Damned" From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sat Apr 20 23:46:22 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id XAA03748 for kats-ll; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 23:33:25 -0400 Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id XAA03743 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 23:33:19 -0400 Received: from LOCALNAME ([203.120.83.226]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA7832 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 11:33:14 +0800 X-Sender: sleet@po.pacific.net.sg (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: sleet@pacific.net.sg (Leet Wai Leong Simon) Subject: SwatKats SNES game ... Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 11:33:14 +0800 Message-ID: <19960421033312.AAA7832@LOCALNAME> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 09:49 PM 4/20/96 -0400, you wrote: >RE: the SNES game - I lucked out a few weeks ago...Toys'r'Us was clearing >out (big time) their video game selections and I managed to pick up the SK >game for 9.95 (plus 7% GST +11% PST.....) but still a bargain. > >I've only gotten through one world, but I've enjoyed the game so far (but, >boy, did my thumbs hurt trying to get out of one level!) Hate to break it to you, but the reason why the game goes so cheap is because it's one of the lowest rated games around (unfortunately) and it received very little advanced publicity so half the world doesn't know about it. Yet another ploy by Tedco. to discredit the Kats after the toy line I'd say :P -Simon Leet :) -Simon Leet :) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 00:21:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA16946 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 00:14:39 -0400 Received: from sioux.sodak.net (root@sioux.sodak.net [205.164.184.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA16941 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 00:14:36 -0400 Received: from sioux.sodak.net ([205.164.184.205]) by sioux.sodak.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA08404 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 23:19:31 -0500 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 23:19:31 -0500 Message-Id: <199604210419.XAA08404@sioux.sodak.net> X-Sender: fuller@sioux X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: fuller@sioux.sodak.net (Frank Fuller) Subject: Second Season Glovatrix Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net The second season Glovatrix is NOT just 'better drawn' than the first season. The second season one is much larger. And while the original just had the missile launchers and the grappling hook/line, the second season one also added radar (Caverns of Horror), the ability to recall the TurboKat by remote (Mutation City), Mini Cement launcher (A Bright and Shiny Future), crossbow/bazooka (Caverns of Horror), small motor for propulsion underwater (Mutation city), and Shield (When Strikes Mutilor ) And it also added minature octopus missiles, as well. Frank Fuller fuller@sioux.sodak.net Proud to be a Swat Kats fan at nearly 22 :) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 00:47:14 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA17882 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 00:45:22 -0400 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA17877 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 00:45:20 -0400 Received: from sl36.redding.snowcrest.net (sl9.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.73]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA24704 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:45:39 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:45:39 -0700 Message-Id: <199604210445.VAA24704@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: What'd they do with those voice tracks anyway? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Hmmm.....Maybe if i can get at least one of the scripts for it, i >could make a comic book, or I could animate it, maybe, Blowout is an unused script. That one would work! > 12-15fps max, with >some good shading, too. (I shade like Mook). Cool! I shade like Soishinsha (The people who make A-ko [1-4. 5&6 don't count due to crappy animation]) And yes, my spelling's wrong! > Or, I could animate via >computer. (Anyone know of an animation program with 640x480 res. or >higher with 256 colors or more, where you can draw your own characters???) If you do, tell me where it is! _______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Always have something in your lunch box to trade with" -The Great One _______________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 01:02:57 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA18749 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 00:48:10 -0400 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA18740 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 00:48:07 -0400 Received: from sl36.redding.snowcrest.net (sl9.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.73]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA24783 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:48:28 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:48:28 -0700 Message-Id: <199604210448.VAA24783@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: stuph Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>Oooh! I remember talking about this last year on the list, and Chance >>said he had something like that, say Chance, can ya send me a copy too? > >Um..I kinda sent it all to Matt Weber for scanning, but I could copy 'em and >oblige once I get 'em back (if they aren't available for download from rat.org >by then). > Well.... I can wait. You got my address, didn't you? (I need something like this! I'm jellous of A.J.! That lucky guy!! I could just die! [and yes, all of you won't hold me back, I know!]) _______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Always have something in your lunch box to trade with" -The Great One _______________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 01:14:27 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA17522 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 00:41:33 -0400 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA17516 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 00:41:31 -0400 Received: from sl36.redding.snowcrest.net (sl9.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.73]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA24588 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:41:51 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:41:51 -0700 Message-Id: <199604210441.VAA24588@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: stuph Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >On Mon, 15 Apr 1996, Louallen Wheeler wrote: [Deleted to save download time (especally for Louallen Wheeler (^3 )] >Oooh! I remember talking about this last year on the list, and Chance >said he had something like that, say Chance, can ya send me a copy too? >Here's my address: > >A.J. Freda >527 W. 11th St. >Traverse City, MI 49684 > Since we're on the subject, I'd like the same. My address is: Ryan Kelley 8471 Maynard Rd. Palo Cedro CA 96073 >Thanx! A.J., you don't count, since you have got that animation cell that I'm killing myself over that I didn't get it! (evil look with a hint of joking to it!) I love: SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS to the extreme! (Don't ask what that might be!) _______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Always have something in your lunch box to trade with" -The Great One _______________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 01:21:40 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id AAA17334 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 00:36:17 -0400 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA17329 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 00:36:15 -0400 Received: from sl36.redding.snowcrest.net (sl9.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.73]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id VAA24409 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:36:32 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 21:36:32 -0700 Message-Id: <199604210436.VAA24409@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: stuph Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I just started getting the swing-wing mechanics for the plain >birds-i-view of the TurboKat done. I now need some model sheets of the >TurboKat with front, back, sides, top, and bottom views. Once I got >those, I can then do the body of the TurboKat, and can finish... >If you can snail-mail me them, here's my addresse... > I think there's a file on rat.org like that. Try checking there! This messege from the crappiest computer around >Dinner late: (A)bort; (R)etry; (P)izza I'll take what's behind Curtain No. 3! >Me? and You. Those two are funny (DON'T ASK!!) > Indecisive? Very! > No! What do YOU think? > Jedi Master Wheeler... I think you should get your head out of Ztarr Warz and get into something more recent. (No offence. I just think the movies were as dumb and just as entertaining as Barney!) _______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Always have something in your lunch box to trade with" -The Great One _______________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 01:38:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA20782 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:22:31 -0400 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA20777 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:22:29 -0400 Received: from sl36.redding.snowcrest.net (sl9.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.73]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA25752 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:22:46 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:22:46 -0700 Message-Id: <199604210522.WAA25752@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: RE: What'd they do with those voice tracks anyway? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >> >hmmm. Maybe if I could find a couple of good kats artists, we could make >> >> >the three eps., and we'd each work on one frame for one month, >> perfecting >> >it, etc. Ok, so maybe it'l take a century!!! >> >> Saaaayyy.. that's not a bad idea.. >> It might make for a good summer-time project.. >> Anyone wanna help? > I'd LOVE to help!!! Are you good at villains? All I can draw is >the SKats and the Pastmaster and some of dark kat. I'll help. I can draw the anime backgrounds. A.J., you can shade, since Mook is better at shading than Soishinsha! I'm pretty good at regular backgrounds too. _______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Always have something in your lunch box to trade with" -The Great One _______________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 01:56:28 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA21162 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:41:19 -0400 Received: from sioux.sodak.net (root@sioux.sodak.net [205.164.184.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA21157 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:41:17 -0400 Received: from sioux.sodak.net ([205.164.184.200]) by sioux.sodak.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA16084 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 00:46:12 -0500 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 00:46:12 -0500 Message-Id: <199604210546.AAA16084@sioux.sodak.net> X-Sender: fuller@sioux X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: fuller@sioux.sodak.net (Frank Fuller) Subject: Re: Just a little nitpicking/hanger Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Sorry for posting another little tidbit about this, but in all the talk about the 'training rooms' shown on "The Origin of Dr. Viper", there's one thing I forgot till now, and didn't see posted in regard to it. Right in the same season, at the beginning of "Mutation City", they show a more realistic training course, one put up that made them climb over garbage and other stuff. This training course was very believable, considering the Salvage Yard... Frank Fuller fuller@sioux.sodak.net Proud to be a Swat Kats fan at nearly 22 :) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 02:01:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA22484 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:50:54 -0400 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA22479 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:50:51 -0400 Received: from sl36.redding.snowcrest.net (sl9.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.73]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA26632 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:51:12 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:51:12 -0700 Message-Id: <199604210551.WAA26632@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Favorite episodes? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >IMHO, one of the best, if not the absolute best, has got to be Razor's Edge. >Just for note. I liked Razor's Edge and one other one that I can't remember offhand. Deadly Pyramid? > > >Frank Fuller >fuller@sioux.sodak.net >Proud to be a Swat Kats fan at nearly 22 :) Proud to be a SWAT Kat extremist at age 15 (I have a whole wall dedicated to the kats in my huge room) ((^3 _______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Always have something in your lunch box to trade with" -The Great One _______________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 02:09:52 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA23517 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:55:18 -0400 Received: from host (www.warwick.net [204.255.24.254]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA23512 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:55:16 -0400 Received: from m2-06.warwick.net by host; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0310PM) id AA13494; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:56:32 -0400 X-Sender: u1003240@host.warwick.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Light 1.5.4Fat (PowerPC) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:57:07 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: jaguar@warwick.net (Michael J. Rider) Subject: Re: Aliens! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:03:00 +0700 macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) wrote: >We call other beings that look like a human; a humanoid, what do the kats >call the aliens in "When Strikes Mutilor"? Felinoid maybe? Sounds good to me. Most feline aliens in science fiction are called felinoid. Like the Kzinti, Caitians, whatever Chanur is, etc. -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Michael J. Rider, jaguar@warwick.net (Jason_Jaguar on FurryMUCK) | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Brain> Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? | | Pinky> Uh, I think so, Brain, but balancing a family and a | | career... oooh, it's all too much for me. | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 02:14:04 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA20999 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:35:27 -0400 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA20994 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:35:24 -0400 Received: from sl36.redding.snowcrest.net (sl9.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.73]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA26152 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:35:46 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:35:46 -0700 Message-Id: <199604210535.WAA26152@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Underdog does it again: Forwarded bounce from Max Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >No problem, e-mail it to me at: max@maxie.com, you attach it or just embed >it in the message. Should've mentioned that before, sorry! > So I was a bit late, I know! I don't look at this kinda thing untill after I send the first message. I'd still like to see your stories, though. > Nax Someone gave you a nickname too. If you need one, pick one of mine. TAKE ONE OF MINE! Don't worry, I don't need 'em! _______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Always have something in your lunch box to trade with" -The Great One _______________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 02:17:36 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA21172 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:42:00 -0400 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA21167 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:41:58 -0400 Received: from sl36.redding.snowcrest.net (sl9.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.73]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA26334 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:42:20 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:42:20 -0700 Message-Id: <199604210542.WAA26334@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: SKIQ: You actually might get to see it! Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >Cartoon Network tells me that yes, they've found the long-lost "Katseye >News Special Report/SKIQ" episode, and are currently evaluating >whether or not it's a worthwhile addition to the rotation. Those of us >that get TCN and wish to express an opinion on the matter might >want to write them at "toonnet@aol.com". > If they do, and IF I get to see it, if you want, I could give anyone who dosn't have all the eps, the ones they're missing. It's quite easy for me now. You have to supply the VHS (American standard stuff) tape, though. (Be sure itsa good tape!) "I'll do whatever I can for the senctity of the ones in need, to be the Sentor of the Entire Wald of needed be." -Aug (Archeiver) _______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Always have something in your lunch box to trade with" -The Great One _______________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 02:18:42 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA23183 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:54:25 -0400 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA23136 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:54:21 -0400 Received: from sl36.redding.snowcrest.net (sl9.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.73]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA26708 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:54:25 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:54:25 -0700 Message-Id: <199604210554.WAA26708@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Just a little nitpicking... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >I just watched The Origin of Dr. Viper, and noticed a serious nitpick in it. >Did anyone else notice that they used 2nd season equipment in this episode? >Considering the episode, the events in it were pre-1st season. Yet they used >the jet pack and the more advanced 2nd season Glovatrix... That, IMHO, is a >serious error, and is a very noticable one. > I noticed that too, but at the time, I thought that was another show. The Japanese version of an American show. The two seasons were so different, that I thought that season one was made in America, and season two dubbed "Megaman" when it came to music, was mady entirly in Japan. Well, it was animated over there, at least! >Frank Fuller >fuller@sioux.sodak.net >Proud to be a Swat Kats fan at nearly 22 :) > > > _______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Always have something in your lunch box to trade with" -The Great One _______________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 02:19:30 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA23529 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:55:23 -0400 Received: from host (ftp.warwick.net [204.255.24.254]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA23522 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:55:21 -0400 Received: from m2-06.warwick.net by host; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0310PM) id AA12873; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:56:37 -0400 X-Sender: u1003240@host.warwick.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Light 1.5.4Fat (PowerPC) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:57:12 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: jaguar@warwick.net (Michael J. Rider) Subject: Re: Villain origins (Dark Kat) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:02:31 +0700 macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) wrote: >>Does anyone have any comments on my question? > >You should have seen some of the speculation on him on this list, here's >some of them: > >* Dark Kat is a human. >* Dark Kat is Feral's brother. >* Which makes him Felina's father (Maybe that's how she got her human >characteristic.). Dark Kat does resemble Feral more than anyone else. Making him Felina's father would be a great plot twist. Making him human (from an alternate reality, maybe?) would be even stranger. BTW, anyone interested in a Ulysses Feral icon? -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Michael J. Rider, jaguar@warwick.net (Jason_Jaguar on FurryMUCK) | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Brain> Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? | | Pinky> Uh, I think so, Brain, but balancing a family and a | | career... oooh, it's all too much for me. | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 02:25:47 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id BAA20943 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:32:17 -0400 Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id BAA20938 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 01:32:15 -0400 Received: from sl36.redding.snowcrest.net (sl9.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.73]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA26069 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:32:33 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 1996 22:32:33 -0700 Message-Id: <199604210532.WAA26069@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Underdog does it again: Forwarded bounce from Max Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >>>Additions should be put in ftp://maxie.com/incoming > >Ooooo! there could be a problem with that, guys. I CAN'T SEND >STUFF FTP WISE!!! I cannot do this sorta stuff, my computer won't let me. >NOT GOOD, NOT GOOD, NOT GOOD, NOT GOOD!!!!! Maxie, is there any other way >people (such as I) can send you fanfics? Please? Pretty, pretty please? Or, >is there anybody out there on the list who can take pity on me and let >me send the story to them, and then let them send it? (Kinda like DJ and >Ryan for "Children of the Stone"? I taky pity on all (and I can also ruin your pride too, but I won't!), so if there's no other way, My computer will let me FTP two ways, so I'll do this for anyone who needs this kinda servace. (Don't worry! I don't bite, unless you get on my nerves [Fanfic only shows me how much of a genuis you are!]) >PLease?????????? Much appreaction would come from this end!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hey, I owe you one! I don't think I repayed you for working on "Day and Night" with you. That was fun! >AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > That's my line! Oh, well, you can have it! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>When someone does add a story, please drop me an e-mail (max@maxie.com) so i >>know who sent it and can move it the story directory. Thanks! >> >> Max > >Max, Max, Max . . . HELP ME HERE, SOMEBODY!!!!!!!! > I'll help! (hint, hint!.... HINT!!) Yeah! I'm being really subtle this time! >'Kay, I'll calm down now. (But not much.) Don't we all do this from time to time? (all the time [only, I never can calm down, shish!]) > Please, if ANYONE here can help me >with this, I'd much appreciate it. And I don't mind if you read the story >before sending it. > Not only will I read and print it, I'll tell you how MUCH i enjoyed reading it (You can't loose! You say 2+8=11 and you're right! Well, don't count on it for you're next math test!) _______________________________________________________ Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "Always have something in your lunch box to trade with" -The Great One _______________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 08:31:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA12329 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:20:45 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA12310 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:20:35 -0400 Received: from [202.154.6.40] (dyn1040a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.40]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id TAA04931 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:20:28 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:19:04 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Second Season Glovatrix Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sat, 20 Apr 1996, Fran Fuller wrote: > The second season Glovatrix is NOT just 'better drawn' than the >first season. The second season one is much larger. They were drawn larger. >And while the original >just had the missile launchers and the grappling hook/line, the second >season one also added Do you ever think that those thing cool things might already exist in the first season, but only was never used? BTW, is the Glovatrix use voice control or you have to press a button to use it? >Frank Fuller >fuller@sioux.sodak.net >Proud to be a Swat Kats fan at nearly 22 :) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 08:47:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA12328 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:20:44 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA12312 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:20:38 -0400 Received: from [202.154.6.40] (dyn1040a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.40]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id TAA04935 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:20:32 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:19:07 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Just a little nitpicking... (Origin of Dr. Viper) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sat, 20 Apr 1996, Terra Chang wrote: >Y'mean like Skardey Kat? Yep, just like Scaredy Kat. Only that cartoon was based on the SwatKats. Speaking of cartoon, why we don't saw any Kat Kommando cartoons in MegaKat? On Sun, 21 Apr 1996, Edo Andromedo wrote: >>First season and Second season is interchangeable, this is why I ask what >>happen if the first season's stories become second season episodes and >>vice versa. On Sat, 20 Apr 1996, Terra Chang wrote: >Uh, okay. I'd be lying if I said "I understand that," so I won't say >anything. But please, you don't hafta 'splain. I've got enough of a headache >already. =( You already mention one of the example of what might happen if the first season's stories become second season episodes, "Origin of Dr. Viper". >Terra Chang >SWAT Kats lover >Anne Rice fan From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 08:52:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA12334 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:20:47 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA12324 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:20:42 -0400 Received: from [202.154.6.40] (dyn1040a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.40]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id TAA04940 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:20:35 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:19:10 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Villain origins (Dark Kat) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sun, 21 Apr 1996, Edo Andromedo wrote: >>You should have seen some of the speculation on him on this list, here's >>some of them: >> >>* Dark Kat is a human. >>* Dark Kat is Feral's brother. >>* Which makes him Felina's father (Maybe that's how she got her human >>characteristic.). On Sun, 21 Apr 1996, Michael J. Rider wrote: >Dark Kat does resemble Feral more than anyone else. Making him Felina's >father would be a great plot twist. Like between Luke and Darth Vader. >Making him human (from an alternate >reality, maybe?) would be even stranger. Well, I was planning on putting a human in my story, of course "was" is past tense. >BTW, anyone interested in a Ulysses Feral icon? Isn't there already one in rat.org? >-- >+------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| Michael J. Rider, jaguar@warwick.net (Jason_Jaguar on FurryMUCK) | >+------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 08:57:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id IAA12327 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:20:43 -0400 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (root@server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.3]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id IAA12308 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:20:31 -0400 Received: from [202.154.6.40] (dyn1040a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.6.40]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.7.5/RADNET) with SMTP id TAA04928 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:20:24 +0700 (WIB) X-Sender: macsonic@server2.rad.net.id Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:18:59 +0700 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) Subject: Re: Stuff for Megakat City Salvage Yard... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Fri, 12 Apr 1996, Razor wrote: >... or, in other words, junk. ;-) > >In any event, a few comments on the last digest: > >Edo clarifies his comment on switching the season 1 and season 2 episodes: >> I mean, what will happen if some characteristic (Animation, characters, >> music, etc.) from the second season was used on the first season episodes, >> and vice versa. > >Well, with respect to the music, you'd probably get differing opinions. >I've had several people tell me that they liked the season 1 music better >than the season 2 music, while a few have told me the opposite. As far as >the animation sequences go, season 2 definitely tops season 1, especially >in the anime-like scenes where T-Bone and (especially!) Razor suit up. I think that it was the moment where Razor put on his helmet. Kinda cool, but I think that scene could be better if they spend more time on it. >The big difference in terms of the characters between season 1 and season 2 >is that Felina Feral replaces Steel(e); Why is that Felina replaces Steel? >otherwise, the main characters remain the same. Yeah, I guess you're right, the only one that remain the same will be T-Bone, Razor, and Feral. Oh yeah, also don't forget the Enforcer. >-- >=================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== > Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia >"Once an inventor, always an inventor..." -- Professor Hackle From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 11:55:19 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id LAA22504 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 11:45:21 -0400 Received: from Fox.nstn.ca (fox.nstn.ca [137.186.128.12]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA22412 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 11:45:17 -0400 Received: from ts4-09.hfx.iSTAR.ca (ts4-09.hfx.iSTAR.ca [137.186.7.89]) by Fox.nstn.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA29641; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 12:44:50 -0300 (ADT) Message-Id: <199604211544.MAA29641@Fox.nstn.ca> From: "Erin O'Connell" To: sleet@pacific.net.sg (Leet Wai Leong Simon), kats@bort.mv.net Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 12:42:45 -0400 Subject: Re: SwatKats SNES game ... Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail/Windows (v1.22) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net I have to agree with ya on that one. The only reason I had even heard of the game was because of the promo at the beginning of the videoes. I was really shocked to find that it even made it up to this neck of the woods. I still enjoyed it tho. Erin From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 12:25:20 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA24423 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 12:01:06 -0400 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA24413 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 12:01:02 -0400 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d151.infoserve.net [199.175.157.151]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA14056 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 09:03:09 -0700 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 09:03:09 -0700 Message-Id: <199604211603.JAA14056@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Favorite episodes? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >RE: the SNES game - I lucked out a few weeks ago...Toys'r'Us was clearing >out (big time) their video game selections and I managed to pick up the SK >game for 9.95 (plus 7% GST +11% PST.....) but still a bargain. HUH? I saw their two-page spread in the local rag, but scanning the various columns of titles only revealed more X-type junk than should be legal. Thanks for the tip though, I'll be running over there first thing in the A.M. to see if there's any left. ('Course, I'll still have to dig up a SuperNES to play the thing, but...details, details.) > _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 12:41:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA25018 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 12:24:22 -0400 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA25013 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 12:24:19 -0400 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA25793; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 12:30:41 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 12:30:39 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Just a little nitpicking/hanger In-Reply-To: <199604202243.RAA09208@sioux.sodak.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Also, because you see the "Speed of heat" and such in the 2nd season, is because the city paid to build the SKs a new turbokat, probably new materials, and new add ons, so it was easier to add the "Speed of heat" adjustment to the turbokat because it was probably built to handle tougher conditions, note the more use of the 3rd engine in 2nd season. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 12:42:38 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA24429 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 12:01:15 -0400 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA24422 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 12:01:06 -0400 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d151.infoserve.net [199.175.157.151]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA14059 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 09:03:12 -0700 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 09:03:12 -0700 Message-Id: <199604211603.JAA14059@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Favorite Episodes Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Someone my quoter devoured said: >Hey, that sounds kinda like a MWII story Courtney *was* writing (I don't >what happened to it, I think it kinda died . . .) but yeah, it was a lot >like that. Hey, anybody wanna try writing that into a fanfic? (If no one >wants to, I can give it a shot, but I don't know that much about WWII, which >MWII was based on, so my stuff might be slightly off) @@@hhh...not quite. It looks like MegaWarII is closer to our World War I. Remember the biplanes in "Ghost Pilot"? Biplanes were only used as trainers and torpedo bombers in WWII - they were long-dead as fighter aircraft. >Speaking of WWII, it started cuz of Hitler and his Nazis, right? What d'you >think caused MWII? Maybe some feline equal of Hitler goin' around killing, >oh, say, Persian cats? I dunno. "Ve didn't start it..you did!" "Yes you did! You invaded Poland!" (with apologies to "Fawlty Towers") We don't want to get into this, but WWII was the result of the Axis powers deciding to flex their military might and acquire "lebensraum", or "living space", at the expense of adjacent sovereign nations. You *could* technically work something like this into a Kats plot, but it'd be hard to resolve in 22 minutes, would make WWII apologists *scream*, and would force an *awful* lot of screen time to be devoted to the development of a suitable antagonist and the foreign country they hail from. So far, we've only had the "Siamese Investors", and the vaguely Teutonic "Ghost Pilot". Oh, and for shame! "Who is Saigon"? Don't they have PBS in Mr. Rogers Neighbourhood? (BTW, Saigon was the capitol city of RVN - The Republic of Vietnam, or South Vietnam, before it fell to the communist North in 1975. You might remember the war. It was in all the papers. The North Vietnamese awkwardly renamed it "Ho Chi Minh City") *I'm* 31, and I remember them pushing UH-1's into the sea off the decks of, I think, the U.S.S. Oriskany and the Shangri-La! We shoulda sold them helos surplus to Feral instead - fifty of 'em would've lasted what, about a week? _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 12:55:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id MAA25079 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 12:26:29 -0400 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id MAA25074 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 12:26:27 -0400 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d151.infoserve.net [199.175.157.151]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA14911 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 09:28:35 -0700 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 09:28:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199604211628.JAA14911@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Villain origins (Dark Kat) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >On Sun, 21 Apr 1996 08:02:31 +0700 macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) wrote: > >>>Does anyone have any comments on my question? >> >>You should have seen some of the speculation on him on this list, here's >>some of them: >> >>* Dark Kat is a human. >>* Dark Kat is Feral's brother. >>* Which makes him Felina's father (Maybe that's how she got her human >>characteristic.). > >Dark Kat does resemble Feral more than anyone else. Making him Felina's >father would be a great plot twist. Making him human (from an alternate >reality, maybe?) would be even stranger. I kinda like the idea of him being Feral's brother as opposed to Felina's father. Now, when they have Felina climing the bridge in "Bright and Shiny Future", does Feral say "My sister will never forgive me", or "my brother will never forgive me"? I can't look it up just now, but it would seem to preclude the possibility of DK being Felina's daddiekat. >+------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| Michael J. Rider, jaguar@warwick.net (Jason_Jaguar on FurryMUCK) | >+------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| Brain> Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? | >| Pinky> Uh, I think so, Brain, but balancing a family and a | >| career... oooh, it's all too much for me. | >+------------------------------------------------------------------+ A fellow ANIMX fan? Cool. We're all insane-y. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 13:25:26 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA28386 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 13:13:51 -0400 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA28380 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 13:13:48 -0400 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA27632; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 13:19:40 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 13:19:39 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Video games... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > Is there some sort of company that make video games in MegaKat? Megatendo? (Nintendo) Mega? (Sega) Katcom? (Capcom) A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 13:33:18 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA28105 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 13:01:33 -0400 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA28100 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 13:01:30 -0400 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA27151; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 13:07:52 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 13:07:51 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: OLD??? In-Reply-To: <199604210019.TAA27994@natashya.eden.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sat, 20 Apr 1996, Terra Chang wrote: > you know how *frustrating* it is to be the ONLY one in your family and Yup, but my sister sorta likes them. > "Crud Razor! Why--do--you--always--hafta--be--right?" > "This is one time I wish I wasn't!" > --T-Bone & Razor, "The Bride of the Pastmaster" > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Note the changes I made to your sig. A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 13:37:31 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA28266 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 13:09:19 -0400 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA28258 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 13:09:15 -0400 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA27463; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 13:15:37 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 13:15:36 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Favorite episodes? In-Reply-To: <199604210030.TAA28514@natashya.eden.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sat, 20 Apr 1996, Terra Chang wrote: > Oh, AJ, is that the ONLY reason you like a show? Seriously, sweetie, that > can't be all, can it? Well, I usually just watch them to admire the artwork and sound now, since i know almost every single little bit of diolouge! > Oh, don't worry 'bout lil ole me. I finished taping I'm still taping.... have about 1/2 of the 2nd and 1st seasons. Oh yeah, if anyone wants the eps on a t-160 tape recorded at LP mode, mail me, though it will cost you the shipping and handling and to get it reproduced at a videos shop, cause my old 1980 VCRs are getting kinda old for reproducing/editing, cause I found that out already after I recorded all the eps! Oh yeah, these tapes have NO COMMERICALS OR "NOW BACK TO SWATKATS" ON THEM! > Terra Chang > SWAT Kats lover > Anne Rice fan > > "Crud Razor! Why--do--you--always--hafta--be--right?" > "This is one time I wish I weren't!" > --T-Bone & Razor, "The Bride of the Pastmaster" > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "Art doesn't matter; history doesn't matter." > --Akasha, "The Queen of the Damned" > > A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 13:40:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id NAA28564 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 13:24:36 -0400 Received: from traverse.lib.mi.us (traverse.lib.mi.us [199.176.180.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id NAA28559 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 13:24:32 -0400 Received: by traverse.lib.mi.us (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA27842; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 13:30:54 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 13:30:54 -0400 (EDT) From: ARTHUR JOHN FREDA To: kats@bort.mv.net Cc: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: Re: Stuff for Megakat City Salvage Yard... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >In the anime-like scenes where T-Bone and (especially!) Razor suit up. I found a nitpick in the Razor part, by going frame-by-frame on one of Maxie's videos. Before he puts his helmet on and while moves both his arms to his left, one of his ears are blue! A.J. Freda If you don't know what SWAT Kats is, please ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us e-mail me!! "Tails" on IRC SWAT Kats The Radical Squadron, the radical fan club SWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATSWATKATS From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 14:56:44 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA02487 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 14:41:30 -0400 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA02476 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 14:41:24 -0400 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d154.infoserve.net [199.175.157.154]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA19371 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 11:43:35 -0700 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 11:43:35 -0700 Message-Id: <199604211843.LAA19371@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: "Mutation City". Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >On Fri, 19 Apr 1996, Andy Hill wrote: Man, is my mailprog putting my RN in the header again? That shouldn't be happening. >>"Mutation" also introduces us to Lt. Felina Feral, and though she's in stark >>contrast to the ever-lovely Miss Briggs, they seemed to get along famously >>in their short scene together. > >Stark contrast? Yeah, you know - as in "totally different". Callie's strong willed, but kinda petite; Felina's also strong willed, but more of an Amazonian Kat. Callie's fashion tastes kinda run toward designer names like Lagerfeld and Dior, where Felina's would favour Kevlar. (Hey, there's nothing wrong with Kevlar! Some of my best friends wear it!) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 15:11:00 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) id OAA02488 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 14:41:30 -0400 Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.6.10/mv(b)/mem-951016) with SMTP id OAA02478 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 14:41:27 -0400 Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d154.infoserve.net [199.175.157.154]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA19379 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 11:43:39 -0700 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 11:43:39 -0700 Message-Id: <199604211843.LAA19379@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Video games... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >OK, this post isn't about SWAT Kats video games. This post is about the position of video games in the SWAT Kats universe. > >We know there is an arcade game somewhere in MegaKat, since that Chance was playing one in "Destructive Nature", and we do know that wireframe graphics do exist in the SWAT Kats universe (Look at the dimensional radar in "The Dark Side of the SWAT Kats".). Is there some sort of company that make video games in MegaKat? Ya, Chance plays "Spa-a-a-a-a-c-e K-a-a-a-a-t!" in "Destructive Nature" (Charlie Adler even did the voice that said that), and he appears to be pretty good at it (though I've not been good at anything since Space Invaders...er..okay, I was killer at the first TMNT game and Galaga too!). Megakat City obviously has some sort of major video interactive industry, as one of the contemplated eps had Razor and T-Bone flying that simulator in a simulated shoot-em-up with all their old adversaries. _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 20:03:32 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA19698 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:44:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: bort.mv.net: majordomo set sender to owner-kats using -f Received: from redding.snowcrest.net (redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA19688 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:44:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fatal.com (fatal@localhost) by redding.snowcrest.net (8.6.5) with UUCP id QAA11788 for kats@bort.mv.net; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 16:43:54 -0700 Received: by fatal.com (wcGATE v4) id 37763W Sun, 21 Apr 1996 23:00:21 GMT From: louallen.wheeler@fatal.com (Louallen Wheeler) Subject: SKIQ: You actually might get to see it! Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 21:53:08 GMT Message-Id: <96042115002136538@fatal.com> Organization: FATAL ERROR |(916)365-7456/6104 | Redding, Ca. To: kats@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net -> From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) -> To: kats@bort.mv.net -> Date: Wed, 17 Apr 1996 17:48:58 -0700 -> Subject: SKIQ: You actually might get to see it! -> -> -> Cartoon Network tells me that yes, they've found the long-lost -> "Katseye News Special Report/SKIQ" episode, and are currently -> evaluating whether or not it's a worthwhile addition to the -> rotation. Those of us that get TCN and wish to express an opinion -> on the matter might want to write them at "toonnet@aol.com". -> Just a tip for recording. When you buy a new tape, fast forward it all the way, then rewind it. It'll get the tape wound according to your machines speed (the reeling machines at the factories wind too fast...) -> _____________________________________________________ -> "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed -> antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous -> waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of -> stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, -> Intelligence." -- "Balto" -> ____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 20:22:09 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id TAA19699 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:44:39 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: bort.mv.net: majordomo set sender to owner-kats using -f Received: from redding.snowcrest.net (redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id TAA19692 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:44:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fatal.com (fatal@localhost) by redding.snowcrest.net (8.6.5) with UUCP id QAA11780 for kats@bort.mv.net; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 16:43:28 -0700 Received: by fatal.com (wcGATE v4) id 37758W Sun, 21 Apr 1996 23:00:20 GMT From: louallen.wheeler@fatal.com (Louallen Wheeler) Subject: anime background Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 21:26:16 GMT Message-Id: <96042115002036533@fatal.com> Organization: FATAL ERROR |(916)365-7456/6104 | Redding, Ca. To: kats@bort.mv.net Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net -> From: Ryan Kelley -> To: kats@bort.mv.net -> Date: Sun, 14 Apr 1996 20:22:05 -0700 -> Subject: anime background -> -> >> Which comes to my request: I'm going to work on another -> >>years contest, could anyone get me a 8 1/2 x 11" or larger print of -> >>grab of the anim blur part in 2nd season opening, or the part where -> >>says: "Mini Cement Launchers" from Bright and Shiny....."? I need -> >>picture so I can study it, and I dont have a color printer to print -> >>screen grab. If you can do this, e-me at ah518@traverse.lib.mi.us a -> >>give you my snail mail address. -> >> -> Hmmmm....... I've had some experiance doing this. For black and -> whiute drawings, you basically scribble parallel lines for the -> background. For color, however, I'd reccomend artist supplies and -> something where you can really mix colors. Another way could be the -> black and white way, and then color each of the spaces in the lines -> a different color. I saw this method in a Street Fighter manga. For -> stills, it looks pretty cool. Hopefully this could help you a -> little, but since I can't capture television frames on my computer, -> I can't help you any more than this. Yeah, it's my Street Fighter II manga published by Tokuma Comics. If you'd like, I could photocopy some scenes for you; just tell me what kinda scenes you'd like: 1-on-1 fighting, oddball scenes, running, etc. I also have some penciled Area 88 comics by Viz Comics. They have some pretty cool scenes. I once tried making a manga strip. Sure I got a good grade (it was for school) but it looks like crud compared to regular manga/anime... From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 21:53:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id VAA26658 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 21:36:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: bort.mv.net: majordomo set sender to owner-kats using -f Received: from Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (ayumi@starbase.NeoSoft.COM [198.64.6.26]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id VAA26653 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 21:36:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from ayumi@localhost) by Starbase.NeoSoft.COM (8.7.4/8.7.4) id UAA20666; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 20:36:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 20:36:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "P.J Silverfox" To: kats@bort.mv.net Subject: cels...... In-Reply-To: <96042115002136538@fatal.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Hello everyone! I'm a lurker around here but, been an avid fan since the series came out. Anyway, onto business. I may be able to obtain some Swat Cats cels from a local cel dealer here in LA. They have VERY good contacts inside HB and are even hosting a HB party in May with some personell from the studio there. When she called them this past Friday they told her that the chances were good that they may be bringing some to the party. I'll keep all of you here appraised of what I can dig up. P.J Silverfox From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 22:46:47 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA29934 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 22:30:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: bort.mv.net: majordomo set sender to owner-kats using -f Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA29929 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 22:30:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl3.redding.snowcrest.net (sl3.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.67]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA15626 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:31:29 -0700 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:31:29 -0700 Message-Id: <199604220231.TAA15626@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Favorite episodes? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >Nope, you're absolutely right - it's the "thinking" element of "Razor's >Edge" that makes it such a great episode. It was VERY well done. > >Erin (SK fan @ 32-and damn proud of it!!) > I love Cry Turmoil due to the fact that it's like a Batman ep! I "translated" (Put same story almost word for word into a Batman theme. It was too easy to do!) the ep and gave it to my friend Kristin, SWAT Kat hater and Ted Turner lover extrodinare! She loved it! Every time I think of this, I just have to laugh. I called the thing liomruT yrC (Cry Turmoil spelt backwards.) It's so funny! I want to do that with all the eps. Then tell her what I did. See her reaction! (Retartded)Ryan Kelley (A new nickname ugh!) SK extremist @ 16 and want to be more tnan an extremist and damn proud of it! _______________________________________________________________ (Retarded) Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "As we progress, the wald of colors inside us turn us into we really are, the animals we all are.... one leads to another. We must to leard to control ourselves to make an immage we'll all never forget." Aug (Archeiver) _______________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Sun Apr 21 23:02:02 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id WAA29926 for kats-ll; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 22:30:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: bort.mv.net: majordomo set sender to owner-kats using -f Received: from mtshasta.snowcrest.net (mtshasta.snowcrest.net [204.94.225.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id WAA29921 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 22:30:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sl3.redding.snowcrest.net (sl3.redding.snowcrest.net [204.94.226.67]) by mtshasta.snowcrest.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA15620 for ; Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:31:23 -0700 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:31:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199604220231.TAA15620@mtshasta.snowcrest.net> X-Sender: gvvy03@snowcrest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Ryan Kelley Subject: Re: Favorite episodes? Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Razor's Edge. >A lot of people pick this one, but why? I mean, I know why I'd pick it, Tell us! >but I'm just kinda curious to see if anyone else's mind malfunctions like >mine. Malfunction like mine? Impossable! >One of the weird things about people picking this ep is that it's >one of the few done by freelance writers (i.e., they write for everybody) - >in this case a guy named Mark Saraceni. One quick question to people that >would pick this as the best ep: is your favourite character Razor?? My favorite character is T-Bone. Don't make me explain. I think Farel would be second, Razor would bw third, Felins would be fourth, and so on. My favorites would me 1. Cry Turmoil (15.25 B), 2. Razor's Edge (19 A), 3. Katastrophie (19 A) and when I was rating the shows in four categoies in a scale 1 out of 20, somehow, SWAT Kats Unplugged rated a 7.5 C- ! If I saw that last ep, don't know it's name other than it's initals, SKIQ, I could rate that too. If you guys would like too see how I rated the two seires, I'll do that, but not until next week, when I can again get in front of this thing called a computer. >_____________________________________________________ >"Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed > antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, > through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in > the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" >_____________________________________________________ > I've been putting this off, but what in the world inspired this signature file? Seems almost as weird as one of mine! _______________________________________________________________ (Retarded) Ryan "B-ko Daitokuji" "Snoopy " "Giyggas " "Blex" "Waysgoos" Kelley SWAT Kats Mega extremist, anime fan. Who says nothing's perfect?. "As we progress, the wald of colors inside us turn us into we really are, the animals we all are.... one leads to another. We must to leard to control ourselves to make an immage we'll all never forget." Aug (Archeiver) _______________________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 22 00:32:10 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id AAA16090 for kats-ll; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 00:22:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: bort.mv.net: majordomo set sender to owner-kats using -f Received: from host (host.warwick.net [204.255.24.254]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA16085 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 00:22:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1-10.warwick.net by host; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/14Nov95-0310PM) id AA04799; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 00:23:57 -0400 X-Sender: u1003240@host.warwick.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Eudora Light 1.5.4Fat (PowerPC) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 00:24:33 -0400 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: jaguar@warwick.net (Michael J. Rider) Subject: Steele (Was: Re: Stuff for Megakat City Salvage Yard...) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net On Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:18:59 +0700 Edo Andromedo wrote: >>The big difference in terms of the characters between season 1 and season 2 >>is that Felina Feral replaces Steel(e); > >Why is that Felina replaces Steel? Didn't Steele kind of sell out the Enforcers? Felina makes a cuter enforcer anyway. -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Michael J. Rider, jaguar@warwick.net (Jason_Jaguar on FurryMUCK) | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Brain> Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering? | | Pinky> Uh, I think so, Brain, but balancing a family and a | | career... oooh, it's all too much for me. | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 22 00:59:34 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id AAA18744 for kats-ll; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 00:58:01 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: bort.mv.net: majordomo set sender to owner-kats using -f Received: from sioux.sodak.net (root@sioux.sodak.net [205.164.184.1]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id AAA18739 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 00:57:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sioux.sodak.net ([205.164.184.203]) by sioux.sodak.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA05654 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 00:02:58 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 00:02:58 -0500 Message-Id: <199604220502.AAA05654@sioux.sodak.net> X-Sender: fuller@sioux X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: fuller@sioux.sodak.net (Frank Fuller) Subject: Re: Steele Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >On Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:18:59 +0700 Edo Andromedo wrote: > >>>The big difference in terms of the characters between season 1 and season 2 >>>is that Felina Feral replaces Steel(e); >> >>Why is that Felina replaces Steel? > >Didn't Steele kind of sell out the Enforcers? Felina makes a cuter >enforcer anyway. Steele was proally busted out of the Enforcers, for his insubordination, IMHO. Remember "Revenge of Dark Kat"? When Feral boarded that ship, Steele WANTED him to die, so he'd have command of the Enforcers. The same happened when Feral was captured by Madkat. If he was busted clear out of the Enforcers, it serves him right. Felina Feral _is_ the most competent Enforcer on the show, and IMOP when/if Feral died/retired, she'd make a great commander for the Enforcers. Proally a lot beter than Connamder Feral, anyhow... (I've been thinking about that possibly making a good fanfic story, a venture into the future, and how things might change with Felina in charge... Remember, she even likes the Swat Kats...) Frank Fuller fuller@sioux.sodak.net Proud to be a Swat Kats fan at nearly 22 :) From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 22 05:00:33 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id EAA00194 for kats-ll; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 04:29:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: bort.mv.net: majordomo set sender to owner-kats using -f Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu (rho.ben2.ucla.edu [164.67.131.31]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id EAA00187 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 04:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [164.67.20.100] (ts17-7.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.20.100]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id BAA69786 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 01:19:36 -0700 X-Sender: razor@netcom.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 01:19:49 -0800 To: kats@bort.mv.net From: razor@rat.org (Razor) Subject: Kat stuff, various Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net Been busy the past couple of weeks or so (especially last week, when I was out of town), so I haven't been able to really respond to the last few digests. However, a couple of things were mentioned in the past digest that I'd like to comment on: Edo queries: > BTW, is the Glovatrix use voice control or you have to press a button > to use it? I'd say the latter because every time the Glovatrix has been used it's always been activated. Yet the heroes usually announce the weapons they're using, maybe to coordinate an attack (so they use the same weapons, perhaps?) And of course, we, the viewing audience, get the benefit of knowing what they're going to use to see if it's effective. But I imagine it's not that difficult to rig up either the Turbokat or Glovatrix for voice activation. Razor was able to remotely control the Turbokat from his Glovatrix in "Mutation City." On favorite Kat eps: like chance, I have a hard time picking out a single favorite, but here are some of mine (mostly second-season): Mutation City (bow to Doc Conway there); Razor's Edge (good character development); Destructive Nature (I personally like the emphasis on Razor here ;-); The Deadly Pyramid (one of the best-animated Kats episodes I've seen). The others are just as good, but those that I've listed tend to stand out in my mind a little more. > Why is that Felina replaces Steel? [ on 1st-season vs 2nd-season ] Because Felina doesn't appear in any first-season episodes and Steel(e) doesn't appear in any second-season episodes. Of course, there are always the extra Enforcers (one Enforcer in "Destructive Nature" was, I think, voiced by Ed Gilbert, whom Tale Spin fans will recognize as Baloo in that series). In fact, on FurToonia there was an inside joke going on for some time about an "Ensign Extra" puppet/zombie who was your average, everyday ensign, but always the one who would be blown up or injured in some way. That puppet had been previously known as Commander Feral. chance sez: > Now, when they have Felina climing the bridge in "Bright and Shiny > Future", does Feral say "My sister will never forgive me", or "my > brother will never forgive me"? His brother. The exact line is something like, "I oughta throw that niece of mine off the force, but my brother would never speak to me again... and besides, she's too good an Enforcer!" (Well, it may not be verbatim, but it oughta be pretty close, at least.) PJ writes: > I may be able to obtain some Swat Cats cels from a local cel dealer > here in LA. They have VERY good contacts inside HB and are even > hosting a HB party in May with some personell from the studio > there. Razor drools. (Not as bad as "Garfield"'s Odie, but...) Got names? Addresses? (Particularly of the cel dealer?) I saw an animation shop in L.A., specifically Santa Monica ("Vintage Animation"), which had some old H-B cels. No Kats cels, though. But I didn't ask them at the time if they might have something. Taken from the .sig of a fellow lister: > Frank Fuller > fuller@sioux.sodak.net > Proud to be a Swat Kats fan at nearly 22 :) And I'm proud to be a Kats fan at 25. I'm tempted to take a demographics poll to find out how old the average list member is, but one thing's for sure (and it's in our FAQ, btw): "animations are NOT just for children!" (I'll shoot anyone with my Glovatrix that says differently. ;-) Unfortunately, time constraints prevent me from doing much of anything at the moment other than checking and replying to email and the occasional update to the FAQ. BTW, about the FAQ: yes, I know I haven't updated it lately. No time! :-P I'll be updating the FAQ by the end of the week, so if you'd like to throw in any updates, please email me before Thursday if possible. The next update to the HTMLized FAQ will be on Friday; I'll try to get to the text FAQ as soon as I can afterward. Until later, keep flying, Kats fans! -- =================== Dana Uehara (razor@rat.org) ==================== Razor on FurryMUCK/FurToonia "What do you think I am... *stupid*?" "Bingo..." -- Commander Feral & the SWAT Kats From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 22 08:13:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id HAA11058 for kats-ll; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 07:57:03 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: bort.mv.net: majordomo set sender to owner-kats using -f Received: from brutus.bright.net (root@brutus.bright.net [205.212.123.10]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id HAA11053 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 07:56:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tole-cs-2.dial.bright.net (tole-cs-2.dial.bright.net [205.212.121.102]) by brutus.bright.net (8.7.5/CICNet) with SMTP id HAA25476 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 07:49:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 07:49:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199604221149.HAA25476@brutus.bright.net> X-Sender: pkemner@brutus.bright.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: Paul Kemner Subject: Kat Kommandos Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >From: macsonic@rad.net.id (Edo Andromedo) >Speaking of cartoon, why we don't saw any Kat Kommando cartoons in >MegaKat? Maybe only 2 seasons of Kat Kommando cartoons were made, then they were cancelled because they were too violent ?? Naaah- Kats are smarter than that. Seeing the comments on Megawar II, do you suppose Prof. Hackle is like Werner von Braun? i.e. he was on the losing side, but was 'adopted' by the military because of his abilities? There might be a lot of personality parallels there... Oh! that might be a good Megawar II story- concentrating on Hackle and the development of rockets and missiles. What do you think, chance? Has anybody noticed the ! NEW ! SK promos on CTN ? (at least I hadn't seen them before) One ends with an exploding 'giant bacteria', and the word KatFood is typed on the screen, one shows scenes from Ghost Pilot, and ends with the scene where the biplace wings get sliced off, and Red Lynx looks shocked- "Kitty Litter" gets typed over his face. There's another promo just for the Saturday @ 2:00 pm showing. Maybe it's a good sign that they're actually airing promos for Kats? Paul Kemner pkemner@bright.net --------------------- Paul Kemner | "Many people appear to imagine that they cannot Toledo, Ohio | afford to have artistic surroundings, whereas pkemner@bright.net | the wonder is that they can afford so much --------------------- expensive ugliness." M. H. Baillie Scott From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 22 09:04:24 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id IAA14789 for kats-ll; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 08:48:32 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: bort.mv.net: majordomo set sender to owner-kats using -f Received: from po.pacific.net.sg (po.pacific.net.sg [203.120.88.11]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id IAA14780 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 08:48:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOCALNAME ([203.120.84.59]) by po.pacific.net.sg (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11140) with SMTP id AAA15835 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 20:48:14 +0800 X-Sender: sleet@po.pacific.net.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: sleet@pacific.net.sg (Leet Wai Leong Simon) Subject: Prof. Hackle's past ... Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 20:48:14 +0800 Message-ID: <19960422124813.AAA15835@LOCALNAME> Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net At 07:49 AM 4/22/96 -0400, you wrote: >Seeing the comments on Megawar II, do you suppose Prof. Hackle is like >Werner von Braun? i.e. he was on the losing side, but was 'adopted' by the >military because of his abilities? There might be a lot of personality >parallels there... Oh! that might be a good Megawar II story- concentrating >on Hackle and the development of rockets and missiles. What do you think, >chance? Wow ... fabulous story potentials there! Anyone want to pick this one up? (My schedule's kinda tight, so the earliest I can start writing again is in December :P ) Certainly makes more sense than the recent threads about him being Razor's dad ... (Boy, must be some really recessive fur colour genes) -Simon Leet :) "Figures. All my life, I've fought against imperialism. Now, suddenly, I AM the expanding Russian frontier." "But with very nice borders." From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 22 10:47:21 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id KAA21704 for kats-ll; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 10:13:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: bort.mv.net: majordomo set sender to owner-kats using -f Received: from merit.edu (merit.edu [35.1.1.42]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with ESMTP id KAA21699 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 10:13:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from schoolcraft.cc.mi.us (schoolcraft.cc.mi.us [198.108.104.2]) by merit.edu (8.7.5/merit-2.0) with SMTP id KAA06574 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 10:13:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailgate.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us by scoas143.schoolcraft.cc.mi.us id aa01136; 22 Apr 96 10:19 EDT Received: by schoolcraft.cc.mi.us with Microsoft Mail id <317BBE6C@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us>; Mon, 22 Apr 96 10:14:20 PDT From: "Matthew O. Weber" To: "'Kats list'" Subject: RE: SwatKats SNES game ... Date: Sat, 06 Apr 96 07:05:00 PDT Message-ID: <317BBE6C@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us> Encoding: 19 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >RE: the SNES game - I lucked out a few weeks ago...Toys'r'Us was clearing >out (big time) their video game selections and I managed to pick up the SK >game for 9.95 (plus 7% GST +11% PST.....) but still a bargain. > >I've only gotten through one world, but I've enjoyed the game so far (but, >boy, did my thumbs hurt trying to get out of one level!) ARGH! I haven't been able to find it anywhere! TRU, FunCoLand, nowhere! I don't suppose some kind soul would be willing to pick me up a copy and send it off? Either from Canada or the US -- I'm not picky.. I'll just need help with the conversion rates. :) -Matt mweber@schoolcraft.cc.mi.us From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 22 11:45:17 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA27396 for kats-ll; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 11:23:43 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: bort.mv.net: majordomo set sender to owner-kats using -f Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA27380 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 11:23:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d142.infoserve.net [199.175.157.142]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA01445 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 08:26:22 -0700 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 08:26:22 -0700 Message-Id: <199604221526.IAA01445@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: Steele (Was: Re: Stuff for Megakat City Salvage Yard...) Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net >On Sun, 21 Apr 1996 19:18:59 +0700 Edo Andromedo wrote: > >>>The big difference in terms of the characters between season 1 and season 2 >>>is that Felina Feral replaces Steel(e); >> >>Why is that Felina replaces Steel? > >Didn't Steele kind of sell out the Enforcers? Felina makes a cuter >enforcer anyway. He didn't really sell 'em out - just Feral perhaps - in the aims of advancing his career in true Klingon fashion. I really don't know why they dropped the character - unless the semi-regular cast was getting a bit crowded with the addition of Felina. I really liked Steele (see my fanfic thing for details), though I *still* think he looks more "fox" than "kat". (Why not? 'Chopshop' was clearly a hyena.) _____________________________________________________ "Dedicated to the indomitable spirit of the sled dogs that relayed antitoxin six hundred miles over rough ice, across treacherous waters, through Arctic blizzards from Nenana to the relief of stricken Nome in the winter of 1925. Endurance, Fidelity, Intelligence." -- "Balto" _____________________________________________________ From owner-kats@bort.mv.net Mon Apr 22 12:04:37 1996 Received: (majordomo@localhost) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) id LAA27397 for kats-ll; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 11:23:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: bort.mv.net: majordomo set sender to owner-kats using -f Received: from unix.infoserve.net (unix.infoserve.net [199.175.157.2]) by bort.mv.net (8.7.5/mem-951016) with SMTP id LAA27381 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 11:23:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Jake & Chance Garage.infoserve.net (d142.infoserve.net [199.175.157.142]) by unix.infoserve.net (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA01442 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 1996 08:26:19 -0700 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 08:26:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199604221526.IAA01442@unix.infoserve.net> X-Sender: chance@unix.infoserve.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: kats@bort.mv.net From: chance@unix.infoserve.net (chance) Subject: Re: cels...... Sender: owner-kats@bort.mv.net Precedence: bulk Reply-To: kats@bort.mv.net > >Hello everyone! Hi there! >I'm a lurker around here but, been an avid fan since the series came out. >Anyway, onto business. I may be able to obtain some Swat Cats cels from a >local cel dealer here in LA. They have VERY good contacts inside HB and >are even hosting a HB party in May with some personell from the studio >there. When she called them this past Friday they told her that the >chances were good that they may be bringing some to the party. I'll keep >all of you here appraised of what I can dig up. Cool. I'm sure we'd all be interested to know what shows up. Most of us seem more interested in